St Mirren chairman, Stewart Gilmour, last week suggested the SPL’s 11-1 protected voting rule, which in the past enabled Celtic and Rangers to block changes against their interests, was a reason for him to oppose Scottish football’s league reorganisation plan.
Today, with Rangers consigned to history, Celtic chief executive, Peter Lawwell, proposed a change in voting rules, replacing the requirement to have an 11-1 majority with a 9-3 majority, which Aberdeen chairman, Stuart Milne, called a “major concession”.
This was not linked to the league reorganisation vote, but Stewart Gilmour voted against this change, despite using this voting rule as an excuse for his reluctance to allow reorganisation. So we now know St Mirren’s objection is nothing to do with voting rules, the brought Aberdeen’s Milne to say on his way out of Hampden, “You need to ask what [St Mirren’s] agenda is”.
After the SFL’s chef exec, David Longmuir, came under pressure from First Division clubs for opposing reorganisation plans, Newco Rangers’ chief executive, Charles Green, was a guest of Gilmour’s at St Mirren’s recent game against Celtic. Green has been a vocal opponent of the league reconstruction proposals and right on cue, Newco released a statement offering support to Gilmour and Ross County, the other objectors.
For those who like their irony straight from the mouths of the stupid, Newco even suggested St Mirren and Ross County “should not be singled out for criticism. They stood up for what they and their fans believe”. Just like all those clubs who were criticised bitterly by Newco for voting as their fans wanted a year ago.
Milne added, “St Mirren FC have really got to pose themselves the question qhy are they prepared to put Scottish football in jeopardy for their own selfish interests, which they have been unable to do today.”
Some people have a belief that there will now be an invitation-only SPL II with Newco being invited. I can tell you with absolute certainty this will not happen. There will be no Newco in the second tier of Scottish football next season.
Instead what has happened is attitudes have hardened against such moves. It would not be at all surprising if 10 SPL clubs declined tickets for their visits to St Mirren Park next season – the anger is that serious. The status quo will be maintained, St Mirren have lost enormous goodwill above and below them, First Division clubs have failed to secure a significant boost in income and the SPL will get on with business.
All of which brings us back to Stuart Milne’s question, what is St Mirren’s real agenda? I know fine well what it is, but they have not damaged Celtic, they have not assisted Newco in any way and the poor St Mirren fans will inherit the collateral damage.
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A day and a hawf!! Words bandied around in true CQN fashion. Debates ongoing. Ex-cops being ex-cops. Ex-socialists blaming another part of the world with no proof. Ex pains in the proverbial making sense. Lots and lots of people had their lives devastated or profoundly affected today. Some will feel the real loss. Prayers for Iraq, Iran and the people of Boston.
Al-Qaida, literally “the database”, was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians. Inexplicably, and with disastrous consequences, it never appears to have occurred to Washington that once Russia was out of the way, Bin Laden’s organisation would turn its attention to the west. The danger now is that the west’s current response to the terrorist threat compounds that original error. So long as the struggle against terrorism is conceived as a war that can be won by military means, it is doomed to fail. The more the west emphasises confrontation, the more it silences moderate voices in the Muslim world who want to speak up for cooperation. Success will only come from isolating the terrorists and denying them support, funds and recruits, which means focusing more on our common ground with the Muslim world than on what divides us.
Foxy_1888 @00:25 so far the USA has managed to avoid another 9/11.
The USA has the right to defend itself against terrorism.
As do the people of Pakistan, who were unperturbed by the death of bin Laden.
Ooft, I”m outa here. Let the Bigotfest continue. I have seen enough to want me not to follow this site from now. I am a UK Citizen, and have been for 66+ years, and have never experienced any sectarianism against me. Brought up in Govan, Pollok and moved to Linwood without ever losing a days work. Aye we are badly, treated. I was reared from when there was a ration on milk and beef things, which the young yins have no clue whatsoever what life could have been like in those days. But, if one wants to make it, as I had a fabulous career, do not let your faith hold you back, learn your trade and you will reap the benefits which will see you, hopefully to your old age.
Weefra HH
TET
There are a great many youtube videos available that will back that up.
I dont believe that there have been any terrorist attacks in the US that could nt be traced closer to home.
Including this one
THE EXILED TIM,
Hear,hear.
ntassoolla @ 18:32 on 15 April, 2013
“Michael @18:17 it could be as simple as I sell to you and agree to buy back next day, next week or next year. we are not privy to such shenanigans.”
If you don’t know what you are talking about why do you feel a need to contribute. The only winners in your scenario are the market makers through their spread. So stop being so daft.
I’ve noticed that you seem to come across as someone who knows what you are talking about. The problem is you don’t. Stop being so daft.
It is quite funny when people on this blog start talking about looking forward, everything is ok now, we are all Jock Tamsons bairns etc,etc.
My son is a apprentice electrician, last year I could tell something was bothering him but he continually said everything was okay.
I finely got him to tell me what the matter was after going on for about a week, he was on a job with about a half a dozen huns, all older men ranging from about 28 to 60.
They started off slagging Celtic, he gave it back about the huns( a lot of ammo to be fair)
They then started about his religion, peado priests, asking if he had been molested.
One guy who was about 50y of age thought that it would be a good idea to write on my boys hard hat and hi vis jacket , FTP, when he removed the offensive writings , it was just repeated.
Now work place banter is okay, I have been involved in that all my life, but to relentlessly target a young boy everyday is what makes them what they are.
Move on , aye right.
Ntassoolla
00:18 on
16 April, 2013
Which devout Muslim is easier to radicalise a) the one that has read about US attacks causing civilian casualties or b) the one whose daughter is in several pieces after being ‘collateral damage’?
Can you believe the utter hypocrisy of Sevco telling everyone there should be no singling out of St Mirren an Ross C. This from a club that organised an officially sanctioned boycott of Dundee utd.
HUnbelievable.
The Latest Times Article
“A new document emerged last night suggesting that Craig Whyte, the controversial former owner of Rangers, was a director of the company used to facilitate the £5.5 million takeover of the club last year.
Mr Whyte’s previous appointments filed at Companies House, and seen by The Times, state that he was appointed as a director of Sevco 5088 on May 9, just days after Rangers’ current chief executive, Charles Green, became the sole director. The paperwork also suggests that, because Mr Green, 59, would have been the only person authorised to make appointments or terminations, nobody else was in the position to ratify the appointment of Mr Whyte, the former owner.
At the weekend, documents were published that appeared to show Mr Green’s signature verifying the roles of Mr Whyte and his associate Aidan Earley as directors of Sevco 5088. Mr Green branded the notion that he had appointed Mr Whyte as a “blatant” smear.
Those papers, relating to the appointment of directors, were belatedly submitted to Companies House just over a week ago, almost a year after they alleged to have been signed. They will be published on the agency’s website later this week.
Although director appointments filed to the Registrar of Companies must be signed off by “a director, secretary” or a “person authorised under either section 270 or 274 of the Companies Act 2006”, documents are not routinely scrutinised.
A spokesman for Companies House said: “As all documents are presented to [us] are accepted in good faith, we do check to ensure the box is completed, however we do not check who has signed the form and if that person has the necessary authority.”
A Rangers source said that the documents recently submitted “raise concerns about their legitimacy [and] smack of desperation from Whyte”.
One insider claimed: “The document was not filed by Charles Green, there’s no question of that. Anyone following the logical sequence of events would arrive at the conclusion that Craig Whyte could not have been a director of a company acquiring Rangers.”
At the weekend Mr Green was subjected to an inquisition at a three-hour board meeting at Ibrox after the Scottish Football Association wrote to him asking for clarification over his business dealings with Mr Whyte. Following the meeting the club launched its own inquiry “in view of allegations” relating to Mr Green and Imran Ahmad, the club’s commercial director.
A Rangers spokesman said that the report would be commissioned and finished “as speedily as possible” in order “to clarify the situation to the satisfaction of shareholders, supporters and Board members”. Mr Green was told that he had brought the game into disrepute after referring to Mr Ahmad as “my Paki friend” in an interview.
At the time the non-executive director, Walter Smith, said: “Charles is new here. Sometimes, if you are not Scottish, it can take you a while to understand the media attention that is given to the two major clubs here.” The former Rangers manager added: “There have been some statements that may have been brushed over if we were in a bigger country. But here they are taken and publicised everywhere.
“Charles might take a look at the year he has had and say, ‘I have to watch what I’m saying in future’ .”
Gordon Smith, a former non-executive, led the criticism of Mr Green after the weekend’s events, and warned that his position would be untenable if he were found to have worked alongside Mr Whyte. “It appears to me that the board are not quite happy to accept the fact that Charles Green says there was no involvement,” he said. “This whole issue has undermined his leadership and what he has done for the club.”
But Mr Whyte claims to have evidence that proves he still owns Rangers and paid £137,500 to Mr Ahmad through an intermediary, to hide his role in the takeover of the club.
A spokesman for Mr Whyte said in a text message that the notion that he was appointed as a director of Sevco 5088 last year by Mr Green was “100% true”.
Clunks/Zimmerman
I posted earlier that something is no right about this latest carnage.
I firmly believe it will be turned about to blame Iran, they are next on the hit list, watch this space.
theweegreenman @00:26 the left wing, anti-American knee jerk reaction that the USA brings these attacks upon itself is lazy at best. It does however, save its proponents the bother of studying what is going on in Pakistan and elsewhere. Just blame the Americans, and their military, for everything, everywhere. Especially for silicon chips and the internet.
I partially blame the Americans for Hitler’s downfall. All those planes and munitions they supplied to the dictator Stalin. And us. In fact I am of the school of thought that says they deliberately made the Germans and the Russians fight each other to a standstill. For our benefit.
George W Bush quote,
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
(A fool’s mouth is his ruin, and his lips are a snare to his soul)
Ntassoolla
Pakistan hasnt the wherewithal to retaliate against drone attacks. innocent victims of children killed in drone attacks have brothers and sisters all over the world that will try to bring about a change in such policies and to awaken the conciousness of the west in their tactics and opinions on collateral damage..
Disgusting as it may be that will result in bombings in Boston, Madrid and London. The viscious cycle goes on. We reap what we sow.
Good to see that The Times are getting in on the act.
Embdy feel the urge to inform them about minty >}
TET
There has been nothing right about any of the carnage since 9/11.
2 or 3 major cities in lock down now in the US.
What piece of freedom is this gona coz the people of America to give up? And which country will get the blame.
So far we have reports of a Saudi in custody. The US cops are on the ball with this alright. 1 hour and they caught the guy.
Lets watch out for the countries implicated with this and see who needs to get invaded next.
Wondered how long it would take for Godwin’s Law to emerge.
Palacio67
Hmmmm oops sqeaky bum time down govan way???
Anyhhoo good night all and thoughts with all in boston tonight and everywhere else where the ordinary man , woman or child is at peril
Ghod bless
‘STILL LAUGHING’.
It is hard to believe that anybody could sign off with those words tonight.
zimmerman
I well remember that quote….oooops
Ntassoolla,
The fact that Dubya’s grandfather,Prescott Bush bankrolled the Nazi war machine is interesting.
Clunks,
Agreed,more basic freedoms in the USA will sacrificed as a matter of course.
palacio67
00:38 on
16 April, 2013
……Mr Green was told that he had brought the game into disrepute after referring to Mr Ahmad as “my Paki friend” in an interview.
At the time the non-executive director, Walter Smith, said: “Charles is new here. Sometimes, if you are not Scottish, it can take you a while to understand the media attention that is given to the two major clubs here.” The former Rangers manager added: “There have been some statements that may have been brushed over if we were in a bigger country. But here they are taken and publicised everywhere.
“Charles might take a look at the year he has had and say, ‘I have to watch what I’m saying in future’ .”
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Classic Hunnery by Sir Cardigan.
Don’t get caught.
Michael
00:33 on
16 April, 2013
Just as I was about to go.
I don’t have the figures on this machine but a few weeks back I sat and went though all their reported trades and the balance by volume was about 87% sales, with I think around 2M shares traded overall. I think since then it’ll be closer to 90% and it’s up to around 3.5M traded.
I don’t think there’s been a single week that didn’t fit that general rule. So what’s happening?
Twomacaroons,
As an avid follower of said law I salute you.
Not in the national socialist way mind…
Dammit. Catching that godwin’s law
Kilbowie Kelt
I would imagine it would have been one of the chuckle brothers(don’t read anything from him)
So Oor Arthur Daley….
Who Lives In A Cave….
Had Never Heard Of Al Qeda Before 9/11
Where Hiv Ye Been ….Palomine….?
Al Qeda Claimed Responsibility For The Bomb Attack On The USS. Cole…..
An American Cruiser That Had Called Into The Port Of Aden In 1998….
Killing 15 US Sailors….
They Also Mounted The Twin Bombing Attacks On The US Embassies In Kenya And Tanzania A Year Later…..
Bill Clinton Then Tried Unsuccessfully To Take Out Bin Laden ,At His Base In Sudan….
With Cruise Missiles….
Bin Laden Then Moved To Afghanistan…
The CIA Located Bin Laden In A Terrorist Training Camp There…..
Sent In More Cruise Missiles To Get Him..
But Had To Tell The Pakistanis About The Plan…..
As The Missiles Had To Overfly P/Stan En-Route…..
And The Pakistani ISI Warned Bin Laden…
Who Escaped From The Camp Minutes Before The Cruise Missiles Arrived…..
Pakistan….The Biggest Single Recipient Of British Foreign Aid…..
And Our Biggest Enemy…!
clunks
Iran is the next target, they have managed to destabalise Egypt, cause civil war in Libya, Syria, tis all part of the plan.
Sadly, if they do go after Iran, it will be WW3, the Iranians will fight back.
I hope and pray it doesn’t come to it, but I do believe the plan will be followed through with.
Sometimes I honestly try and convince masel I am crazy, but things always come about and tell me, No, I’m no mad.
Oh Dear.
Arthur Daley would be in the 10% who had a wee inclination that AQ existed prior to 9/11.
See if you actually read what is posted, you might be better informed.
CavemenrusCSC
The Boston events are terrible. This is from CNN live blog. …… Puts league reconstruction into perspective.
[Update, 7:57 p.m. ET] Doctors are “pulling ball bearings out of people in the emergency room,” a terrorism expert briefed on the investigation told CNN’s Deborah Feyerick.
The same source said the blasts resulted in at least 10 lost limbs.
[Update, 7:43 p.m. ET] An 8-year-old boy was among those killed, a state law enforcement source said, according to CNN’s John King.
[Update, 7:38 p.m. ET] At least 132 people – including eight children – have been injured in the bombings, according to Boston-area hospitals. Boston police earlier said that two people were killed.
At least 17 of the injured are in critical condition, and at least 25 are in serious condition, area hospitals said.
[Update, 7:08 p.m. ET] A witness, Marilyn Miller, told CNN that she was about 30 feet away from the first bomb when it went off. The second bomb came about 12 seconds after and about 50 to 100 yards away from the first, according to authorities and an analysis of video from the site.
Miller was waiting for a runner who, it turns out, was probably about 10 minutes away from the finish line.
“We saw injuries all around us,” Miller said. Someone was putting pressure on a woman’s neck. “A little boy, his leg was torn up. A woman, (people) were (shouting), ‘Critical, critical, get out of out way!'”
[Update, 6:51 p.m. ET] At least 110 people have been injured in the bombings, according to Boston-area hospitals.
[Update, 6:49 p.m. ET] Boston cell phone services were overloaded in the wake of the blast, slowing the city’s network dramatically and hampering the investigation in the early going, federal law enforcement officials told CNN.
Unconfirmed rumors began circulating on social media and elsewhere that law enforcement had shut down cell service to prevent more explosives from being detonated remotely. But mobile companies were saying that was never the case, CNN’s Doug Gross reports.
“Verizon Wireless has not been asked by any government agency to turn down its wireless service,” a spokesman for that company told CNN. “Any reports to that effect are inaccurate.”
In other media reports, Sprint similarly denied being asked to shut down service.
Online, Bostonians were being encouraged to stay off of their mobile phones except for emergencies and even open up their wireless connections to help take the load off of the cellular data network.
thehoopedduke…
I thanQue. HH ( that’s hail hail,not the other thing)
Old Rhodes scholar Bill Clinton mentioned on here now,
give me strength.
TET
If the US go after Iran as we know they will then Iran have already said israel is for the nuke.
America is run by Israel and donates significant money to Israel, billions.
Iran are being backed by russia in this. This puts the Americans at a quandary. Hence tonight’s terror attack. Will it be enough to make russia back off? Doubt it.
We are a nuclear war on 2 fronts just now. Iran and North Korea.
Who is the common denominator?
A Hiv Tae Correct You….’Arthur’
Troglodyte Palomine…..
You Hiv PREVIOUSLY Posted That Ye Hidnae Heard Of Al Qeda….
Afore 9/11….
And Ah Wiz Gonnae Post A Big Article On The History Of Al Qeda….
Fae The ‘Time’ Magazine….
Fur Your Benefit….An’ Erudition…
But Alas…..Ah Found That The Original Article Hid Been Removed From The Net..
I think they need to bring Zbigniew Brzezinski in on this,
he’ll sort it out.
It’s a conspiracy!
The singing tec’
Ask Robin Cook about Al Qaeda,….wait a minute…forget that.