I caught a bit of yesterday’s newspapers; the contrast between an article in The Herald, linked from the Quick News section, and one elsewhere was stark. It brought to mind a very politically incorrect cartoon depicting a conversation someone trying to explain the consequences of a football club getting into vast amounts of debt. “You don’t have the intellect to understand what is happening” was the active line.
This far into actual news [def: hard information about a subject] on how Rangers were being run by the board in charge prior to Craig Whyte’s takeover, some are still flogging “EBTs were legal”, “No one complained about EBTs at the time”, “Juninho had an EBT”, as though somehow any of this was in doubt or relevant to the question.
The only show in town, to use our favourite phrase from last season, is ‘Were players illegally registered?’ You can pay them in cash, by EBTs or by boatloads of bananas, you can pay them when they were playing, before they were playing or after, the timing makes no difference whatsoever, but did you record all contracts or did you hide dozens of contracts from oversight?
Anyone who, this late in the debate, is blabbering on about EBTs being noted in Rangers annual accounts either doesn’t have the grey stuff to grasp the point, or somehow believes they can knowledge manage their readership. “You don’t have the intellect to understand what is happening”, is perhaps the message they are sending out.
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curly
13:19 on
18 September, 2012
Very welcome … be happy it wisnae a bee gees number ;-)
Hail Hail
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Aw naw
Brilliant, inspired, hillarious
Take a bow
HH
miki67
13:18 on
18 September, 2012
They believe what they have been spoon fed. ALWAYS
Hail Hail
Right – I have checked the Scotsman articles and, while they are extremely (unintentionally) very funny in their own right – you naughty CQNrs are ad libbing to these articles.
While I admit this does enhance their funniness its not right because I can no longer tell the difference between real newspaper articles and the ones that you make up.
Awe Naw – stoppit!
TheGreenManalishi(WithTheTwoProngedCrown)
Sorry mate, popped out for a sandwich. No, unless we decide to pop there later for the bus.
Granny Gibb’s in Whiteinch. My old man lives near there so I pop in to have a quick pint with him before the games. He’s not able to get to the games himself.
Should be busy in the Harp I’d say.
NegAnon2
What you will not read in the MSM is how the huns are being made to produce I.D before entering football grounds and are being filmed. Scottish Government getting very twitchy about sectarianism in this country as it is no longer hidden and I believe it has been mentioned in recent meetings with Westminster about independence.
AWE NAW 1319
Your character is beyond reproach,integrity is your byword.
These are known knowns.
The unknown unknown is your sense of humour,that impish devil-may-care approach.
Ach,keep us all on our toes,bud-carry on!!!!!!!
no comments about advert ?
http://t.co/fUKV5m3F
if you know your history
NegAnon2
13:24 on
18 September, 2012
Not guilty … I do a standard cut and paste and some how it gets all corrupted.
I opened a problem ticket with Paul67 years ago Ticket No. 188867 and it is still open ???
Anyway I have to go for one big MF jag in my foot now.
So until laters .. have a nice day bhoys
Hail Hail
Summa of Sammi….
Cheers mate. The result will decide how the good the day is.
Despite the similarity of the names I’m not related to Thomthetim. Did you not notice my double barreled monikor?
HH.
On the BBC website you can nominate your ‘Unsung Hero’ for the SPOTY awards.
I think it’s time the MBB got the recognition his efforts deserve, for his unparalleled service to Scottish football.
A better summation of the catastrophic state of affairs, I have yet to read.
C ‘n’ P from TSFM,
Please read.
The Iceman says:
September 17, 2012 at 22:53
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We have established the following for all the good it will do us as facts;
1. Duff and Phelps were operating to maintain Rangers as a going concern regardless of the costs to creditors ( Why and on whose instructions I suspect we will never know – my gut feeling is that their actions were deliberately orchestrated by those in our society who deem rangers a “necessary institution”)
2. The SFA broke its own rules by refusing to terminate RFC’s membership when they failed to trade out of administration and broke them again when they transferred their membership to another legal entity and broke them again when they conferred “conditional ” membership to SEVCO and broke them again when they held on to player registrations of free agents who refused to TUPE over to SEVCO ( why – to prevent Armageddon and Social Unrest – again concepts from political masters)
3. Rangers FC are dead and Rangers died with it – the transfer of a share and the notion of a “club” distinct from the legal body in which it is incorporated is a fiction – yet this fiction is the unchallenged official status of the club – why ?
4. There have been unprecedented and extraordinary delays in processes – the FTTT, the SPL investigation, Lord Hodge’s report on conflicts of interest over Duff and Phelps – which had they been brought to a conclusion timeously must have led to the demise of RFC before the switch over could have been facilitated – this is either extraordinary coincidence or a very wide scale cover up indeed – and one co-ordinated at the highest level.
Many on here speak in reverential terms about judges and the HMRC as having reputations and being neutral arbiters – I believed this at first but the string of coincidences involving such individuals throughout this process has caused me at first to doubt this and now to conclude that they are anything but what they claim to be.
For whatever reason the Scottish establishment has deemed a functioning Rangers to be an essential priority and whilst legal and financial processes cannot be abandoned nor materially distorted ( with I think the exception of the administration by D and P – it appears blatantly fraudulent trading whilst insolvent, failing to secure income streams, failing to cut expenses, failing to sell assets at maximum value to creditors, and contrary to their legal duties ) , they can be delayed to allow a new situation on the ground to be in place which they hope will prevent the judgements delivered leading to the demise of Rangers. This has cost and will cost the public purse hard cash, and lead to one of the greatest examples in Scottish legal history of justice delayed being justice denied.
This process of judicial obfuscation, malpractice, apparent incompetence and cover-up is a staple of the British state when it has to defend its key institutions – it is interesting that Rangers and its survival is seen as being of sufficient importance that the old standard tactics have been put into place for them.
miki67
13:18 on
18 September, 2012
Night Terror even looks at you the wrong way .. just let me know
Although I love the idea of them all scurrying around the internet in mild shock for a few minutes LOL
Hail Hail
Awe naw – it was fine when it was obvious but its become too hard to tell now. Its no fair!
Asonofdan – sorry but I also find that very hard to believe – I know this country too well. What is your source for this?
NegAnon2
13:24 on
18 September, 2012
you naughty CQNrs
Your a CQNer too naw ?
Hail Hail
Ernie
I don’t know if ” Arthur Scargill being a foreign agent or some such!” But I do know his stupidity helped destroy Mining and Mining communities (and the trade unions in general) in the UK. Now while I agree that Thatcher wanted a fight and to hell with the consequences, I also believe that the same could be said for Scargill.
NegAnon2
13:34
I cannot be held responsible for Scotland fall into ridicule.
My articles are the one constant surely ???
Hail Hail
ok lhas til laters
Hail Hail
South of Tunis
For me, the two danger men are Aimar (one of the best no.10s in Europe) and Salvio (very skilful player with a lethal cross). They have one philosophy: attack. Their entire midfield is set up this way, with only Matic as the one defensive midfielder. As if further evidence were needed, their Left Back, Melgarejo, is a converted attacker!
Defensively, I think we need Scott Brown on the right of midfield to help deal with the double threat of Melgarejo and Perez(or Gaitan). When Rangers came to Parkhead a seemingly attacking left side, they were completely neutralised by Brown and Matthews, who was excellent that day. The one caveat here is that Ledley may not be fit for the game, in which case our midfield two picks itself, and Forrest (who I’d prefer to come on around the 60′ mark) will start at RM. Izzy will be tasked with marking Salvio, while we will know whether Wanyama has had a good game by how he deals with Aimar.
If we look for hopeful signs, the fact that they are missing two mainstays of their defence, Luisao (CB) and Maxi Pereira (RB) means there must be scope for our attackers to get in behind them. Commons should play as AM behind the striker – his creativity and judgement will be essential.
All in all, our injuries have hit us hard for this game, but if we are to play to our strengths, and Benfica to theirs, expect a high scoring match.
Mince a tremblin,
u_o_g
ERNIE LYNCH 1319
Fair point,Ernie-I hadn’t read his Guardian piece on the Hillsborough apology from The Sun.
As their Media Correspondent,he would be expected to comment on it. As a respected figure,he would be expected to form his own views,and be damned,as long as he explained them-which he did.
As I recall,he wrote a smaller equivalent of Littlejohn in The Sun back then. I obviously don’t remember his comments from then. He would not have been alone in condemning Scargill at the time-I did too!
He had been stupid enough to play the game FOR the Tories by ignoring the law on strike ballots simply because he decided he didn’t like the idea,the twat.
Did the poster you highlighted give any more details on Roy’s disgraceful post,or shall we simply take his word on how wrong it was?
wonkyradar – He looks like a tramp they put a suit on for his court appearance / mandatory job interview.
No wonder he’s an angry bear. (thumbsup)
Struggling to avoid yielding to temptation —-
AC Milan ——— Anderlecht .
Milan are skint and struggling . Manager being lined up for the sack . Just lost 2 home Serie A games in a row [ very ,very rare ] Won 5 of their last 23 CL games Plagued by injuries . Rumors of a split /very unhappy dressing room.
Anderlecht are 6-1
Bobby Murdoch’s
Is being a Steely Dan appreciater a Kilwinning thing do you think? Just saying having heard it blasted out of record players (I’m that old) from places as far flung as the Corsehill to the Woodwynd in my time, it’s even heard in the Blacklands and the Dirrans I’m told, although Pennyburn and particularly Whitehurst Park would be the heartland of Steely Danism I guess. Anyway, FYI Donald Fagen will release his 4th solo album in October.
Hail Hail,
KevinBhoy.
NegAnon2
The huns themselves have put in formal complaints to the police and rangers head of security.
The last wee bit was a chat over a coffee but I would not be inclined to disbelieve the individual who told me.
RIP wee Elvis
thomthethim
13:33 on 18 September, 2012
Aye, a very good post, very much along the lines of what I have been spouting.
Beware the eye that turns a blind eye :>)
Vandalgrease
09:46 on
18 September, 2012
A wee bit late catching up.
Like a whole lot of others in media,Traynor studiously avoids mentioning hundreds of creditors who have been punished by Murray and Whyte’s profligate mismanagement.
A number of times over the last couple of months I have unsuccessfully tried raise the above in the media.
Neil Francis scrutinises his back four as he awaits immanent Eagles
I’m keepin’ my ole CLexpectations on th elow side, hopin’ for 5 points and six good performances.
If we finish 3rd in the group that will represent progress.
CHARLES KICKHAM
OK,I’ll bite.
The impression from the clip is thaNeil Lennon-himself-has decided that the Anniversary Kit will mean a lot of Celtic supporters walking around with a white top and a shamrock over their heart.
IMO,IT IS INFLAMMATORY.
It will lead to problems for people wearing it-and,please,don’t any of my fellow posters say that right-minded sensible people won’t have a problem-and we do not need this at this moment in time.
A better idea,I think,would have been a replica of the 67 strip with a silhouette of our first ever team photo.
A sonofdan
Interesting, on FF there was a thread about huns being forced to state their name and address whilst being filmed before entering a ground. I thought it was their usual paranoia…
Paul67
Do I detect an element of frustration or anger in your latest piece…or maybe just a wee bit of both?
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
13:42 on 18 September, 2012
It’s not that he disagreed with Scargill, it’s that he wrote lies about him.
Same as Hillsborough.
I would regard Michael Rosen as a credible source.
greenjedi
13:35 on
18 September, 2012
Ernie
I don’t know if ” Arthur Scargill being a foreign agent or some such!” But I do know his stupidity helped destroy Mining and Mining communities (and the trade unions in general) in the UK. Now while I agree that Thatcher wanted a fight and to hell with the consequences, I also believe that the same could be said for Scargill.
There is little doubt that in his timing, Scargill at best was naive and more than a little arrogant.
Neverthless, If not Scargill and the miners, she would have made damned sure that she brought about the end of effective trades unions.
At least we were never under any illusions about her.
Given thirteen years, a so called Labour Government stuffed with chancers like Blair, Mandelson and our very own John (not a bullet will be fired in anger) Reid, did exactly hee haw to repair the damage she wreaked on the unions and workers in general.
KEVINBHOY
Are you still there?
I canny take the blame for blaring the music-Steely Dan should NEVER be blared.
If folk in Pennyburn are blaring it,that narrows down my search for my missing LPs,thanks!
bsr
Two mice ……..
fell INTO …
a bucket of mince.
They … passed away.
christopherwalkencsc
up -over- goal.
I have watched Benfica 3 times since the draw was made .
Attack – Attack ——-Attack .
The 2 full backs [ whoever is picked ] play astonishingly high up the pitch . Chances are created by the fullbacks playing the ball diagonally back to on running forwards / midfielders..
They will miss Luisao / Pereira. Supporters websites suggest that Melgareto is regarded as a weak link..
Aimar is still a fabulous player.. The front 2 —-Rodrigo / Cardoso are very very good..
We’ll see