Surprised we got two in yesterday, as Manchester City under-grad, Jason Denayer, signed for a year-long loan last night. The 19-year-old has yet to play first team football so is likely to be considered as backup at Celtic, though reports are promising.
Not surprised that Legia Warsaw have lodged an appeal to Uefa to be re-instated into the Champions League, they have to try everything possible. It has not been confirmed what ground Legia have appealed on, however, at the weekend, Polish FA chief exec, Zbigniew Boniek, suggested an appeal would be made on two grounds:
That only one member of the UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body was at the hearing to made the decision, and
That Legia were not given the chance to make a submission to the Body.
There are 10 members of the Disciplinary Body and rules state that decisions require the attendance of at least three, unless the case is “urgent”, when a decision can be taken by one member. To defend their process, Uefa need to insist that the circumstances were urgent, probably citing the Champions League play-off draw, which was due to take place two hours later.
While the Disciplinary Body allow submissions to be made prior to a hearing, Article 34 authorises the Body to undertake a hearing without submissions and “in the absence of one or all of the parties”.
In the unlikely event Legia won an appeal on procedural grounds, a subsequent hearing, perhaps with more Disciplinary Body members in attendance, would take place, and would inevitably reach the same conclusion.
Article 21, paragraph 2, of the Uefa Disciplinary Regulations state, “A match is declared forfeit if a player who has been suspended following a disciplinary decision participates in the match.” There is no ambiguity or lateral for the Disciplinary Body to exercise a different reprimand.
Legia’s appeals can carry on all the way to the Court of Arbitration for Sport but Celtic will not be involved in any future issues. NK Maribor represent a vastly, vastly, greater risk to their Champions League aspirations.
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On a rather minor point that no-one has picked up as yet, the old “no sporting advantage”, also known as the LNS clause:
Whilst the player was not fielded for the games in which he was not listed in the squad, someone else was. Therefore a player was available for selection who would otherwise not have been. An advantage was in fact gained.
Whilst the argument is made that this was only an oversight, it might in fact have been a deliberate attempt to cheat.
If the procedure detailed in the rules is intentionally designed to prevent another player being included in the squad, then failure to name the suspended player in the squad should be interpreted as an attempt to circumvent the rules (ie cheat).
St S
Hahaha
Always thought Tam wis fae the Port. ;))
I’ll be cheering wee Fergus on Saturday at the top of my voice. I’ll be thanking him in my own humble way that I still have a proper team with a proud unbroken history, who did not shite on creditors in their time of need, and who paid their debts.
I never boo’d the bunnet back then and I sure as hell will raise the roof when he walks onto paradise’s turf on Saturday.
Hail Hail the Bunnet
Delaneys Dunky
01:03 on
13 August, 2014
St S
Hahaha
Always thought Tam wis fae the Port.
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modelled on john crighton
SS, you’ll pay up tomorrow or I’ll hunt you down like a dog.
I’ve already stored this conversation, just in case. Not that I need to store it with a witness like Dunky in da hoose……………ha ha.
HH
The Glorious Balance Sheet
My point is that the additional cash coming in from games v Sevco plus any extra TV cash negotiated is hardly of the gravy train variety when you spread the TV money over all clubs and look at how the extra for Celtic will probably be spent. Not sure how much extra the £44 will generate but in quality buying terms or even profit its peanuts, not gravy.
Neganon2
Well it might be to cushion Celtic against the effects of reducing income until the benefits from competing start to equal the cost. Squirrel behaviour perhaps.
Every body moans about crowds dropping. Crowds will rise when the league becomes more competitive. That competition does NOT mean Sevco. They were only able to compete using other peoples money. That route has gone so they will have to do what all the clubs have been doing which is compete within their means. The competition will come from every club thinking they have a chance of beating Celtic and us trying to prove them wrong.
Scottish football has been co dependent on a bilateral basis for so long it has forgotten that a football is a game of sport, not Christians v the Lions but more a Scottish version of David v Goliath.
What else are you the “invest camp” crying out for but the near certainty of being winners through buying results?
Its all stinkin thinkin.
You would think the author of this had been studying CQN since we got beat by Legia,
http://psychcentral.com/lib/the-top-10-types-of-stinkin-thinkin/00010
Its not happy clappers v mineshafters, its more aware thinkers v stinking thinkers.
In fact I’ll see if I can copy paste it next.
The Top 10 Types of “Stinkin’ Thinkin’”
By David Burns
One of the most common types of skills learned in psychotherapy today focuses on our thinking. Unbeknownst to many of us, we often engage in internal conversations with ourselves throughout the day. Unless we’re trained to examine these conversations, however, many of us don’t even realize we’re having them! For instance, imagine looking in the mirror at yourself. What’s the first thing you think when you look at yourself? That thought is a part of our internal conversation.
Having these kinds of conversations with yourself is perfectly normal and in fact, everybody does it. Where we mess up in our lives is when we let these conversations take on a life of their own. If we answer ourselves in the above example with something like, “I’m fat and ugly and nobody loves me,” that’s an example of “stinkin’ thinkin’.” Our thoughts have taken on an unhealthy attitude, one that is working against us instead of for us. Psychologists would call these thoughts “irrational,” because they have little or no basis in reality. For instance, the reality is that most everyone is loved by someone (even if they’re no longer with us), and that a lot of our beauty springs from inside us — our personality.
It is exactly these kinds of thoughts that you can learn to identify as you go through your day. Often times it will be helpful to keep a little journal of the thoughts, writing down the day and time you had it, the thought itself, and the type of irrational thought — or stinkin’ thinkin’ — from the list below. As you learn to better identify them, you can then learn how to start answering them back with rational arguments. In this manner, you can work to turn your internal conversation back to being a positive in your life, instead of a running negative commentary.
1. All-or-nothing thinking – You see things in black-or-white categories. If a situation falls short of perfect, you see it as a total failure. When a young woman on a diet ate a spoonful of ice cream, she told herself, “I’ve blown my diet completely.” This thought upset her so much that she gobbled down an entire quart of ice cream.
2. Overgeneralization – You see a single negative event, such as a romantic rejection or a career reversal, as a never-ending pattern of defeat by using words such as “always” or “never” when you think about it. A depressed salesman became terribly upset when he noticed bird dung on the window of his car. He told himself, “Just my luck! Birds are always crapping on my car!”
3. Mental Filter – You pick out a single negative detail and dwell on it exclusively, so that your vision of reality becomes darkened, like the drop of ink that discolors a beaker of water. Example: You receive many positive comments about your presentation to a group of associates at work, but one of them says something mildly critical. You obsess about his reaction for days and ignore all the positive feedback.
4. Discounting the positive – You reject positive experiences by insisting that they “don’t count.” If you do a good job, you may tell yourself that it wasn’t good enough or that anyone could have done as well. Discounting the positives takes the joy out of life and makes you feel inadequate and unrewarded.
5. Jumping to conclusions – You interpret things negatively when there are no facts to support your conclusion.
Mind Reading : Without checking it out, you arbitrarily conclude that someone is reacting negatively to you.
Fortune-telling : You predict that things will turn out badly. Before a test you may tell yourself, “I’m really going to blow it. What if I flunk?” If you’re depressed you may tell yourself, “I’ll never get better.”
6. Magnification – You exaggerate the importance of your problems and shortcomings, or you minimize the importance of your desirable qualities. This is also called the “binocular trick.”
7. Emotional Reasoning – You assume that your negative emotions necessarily reflect the way things really are: “I feel terrified about going on airplanes. It must be very dangerous to fly.” Or, “I feel guilty. I must be a rotten person.” Or, “I feel angry. This proves that I’m being treated unfairly.” Or, “I feel so inferior. This means I’m a second rate person.” Or, “I feel hopeless. I must really be hopeless.”
8. “Should” statements – You tell yourself that things should be the way you hoped or expected them to be. After playing a difficult piece on the piano, a gifted pianist told herself, “I shouldn’t have made so many mistakes.” This made her feel so disgusted that she quit practicing for several days. “Musts,” “oughts” and “have tos” are similar offenders.
“Should statements” that are directed against yourself lead to guilt and frustration. Should statements that are directed against other people or the world in general, lead to anger and frustration: “He shouldn’t be so stubborn and argumentative!”
Many people try to motivate themselves with shoulds and shouldn’ts, as if they were delinquents who had to be punished before they could be expected to do anything. “I shouldn’t eat that doughnut.” This usually doesn’t work because all these shoulds and musts make you feel rebellious and you get the urge to do just the opposite. Dr. Albert Ellis has called this ” must erbation.” I call it the “shouldy” approach to life.
9. Labeling – Labeling is an extreme form of all-or-nothing thinking. Instead of saying “I made a mistake,” you attach a negative label to yourself: “I’m a loser.” You might also label yourself “a fool” or “a failure” or “a jerk.” Labeling is quite irrational because you are not the same as what you do. Human beings exist, but “fools,” “losers” and “jerks” do not. These labels are just useless abstractions that lead to anger, anxiety, frustration and low self-esteem.
You may also label others. When someone does something that rubs you the wrong way, you may tell yourself: “He’s an S.O.B.” Then you feel that the problem is with that person’s “character” or “essence” instead of with their thinking or behavior. You see them as totally bad. This makes you feel hostile and hopeless about improving things and leaves very little room for constructive communication.
10. Personalization and Blame – Personalization comes when you hold yourself personally responsible for an event that isn’t entirely under your control. When a woman received a note that her child was having difficulty in school, she told herself, “This shows what a bad mother I am,” instead of trying to pinpoint the cause of the problem so that she could be helpful to her child. When another woman’s husband beat her, she told herself, “If only I was better in bed, he wouldn’t beat me.” Personalization leads to guilt, shame and feelings of inadequacy.
Some people do the opposite. They blame other people or their circumstances for their problems, and they overlook ways they might be contributing to the problem: “The reason my marriage is so lousy is because my spouse is totally unreasonable.” Blame usually doesn’t work very well because other people will resent being scapegoated and they will just toss the blame right back in your lap. It’s like the game of hot potato–no one wants to get stuck with it.
Parts of this article were exercepted from the book, “The Feeling Good Handbook” by David D. Burns, M.D. © 1989.
George Galloway @georgegalloway 4m
Sean Caden on the Gold Coast of Australia has just become our farthest flung member of Respect! Welcome Sean the Wild Colonial Boy xx
George Galloway @georgegalloway 2m
And he’s a Celtic Man and originally from Leeds @HUNSLETWHITE How much better can it get?
sftb, dear god, I wish I’d not looked back. Antother one cow towing to the the sining knob biter.
Is beefheart the poster who used to be john oneil?
Why would I not be surprised at him kissing arse with fascist cocks.
GNGB Bhoys.
Let’s pump the Perth Saints later.
Auldheid,………………….
Hello
Off topic:
2 of my favourite Scottish jokes:
Q. What’s a “skean dhu”?
A. A pigeon who goes to Switzerland for it’s holidays.
A Scotsman is complaining to his mates about how rude Londoners are….
“It wis twa o’clock in the mornin and the man in next flat was thumpin on the walls an screamin an shoutin. He made such a rackit a could hardly hear ma pipes.”
ACGR
Yes he is, cant recall who confirmed it for me
Lauren Bacall rip.
ACGR
Yep Jo’N
HH
squire danaher / An Tearmann, same pish, same poster with a different name.
ACGR is one Glaswegian who is proud of his city for taking a moral stand against the murderous Israeli attacks on the innocent people of Gaza.
Fascism and racism will never win and Celtic supporters who support it should hang their heads in shame.
JO;N, you make me sick
Lauren Bacall sleep well you beautiful lady.
Hail Hail Cetlic men and wummin
ACGR
Will give Lionsroar67(oor resident pool hustler) a text and get my bangle from him on saturday.:-) So even more for the ol Kano on Sat.thanks for that.:-)
Agree 100% re flag flying over our council offices.
HH
Delaneys Dunky
23:50 on
12 August, 2014
MacJay
Our political views may be polar opposite?
Our love for Celtic FC will keep us brothers. :)
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Much appreciated.
I`ll bet the desired outcomes of our political views are very similar,if not identical.
The other side of the coin.
Palestinian children being taught to kill the Jew.
Racist?Fascist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21dIRCMfnHs
Just hearing the boy that was banned had told Legia he might not have been eligible for the game.
THEY KNEW!
Makes the brass on their neck look like paper if true
Macjay posting more anti Palestinian propaganda from fox news. Those same morons said it was anti Semitic to oppose Israels blockade and bombing of schools if one was European and merely “ignorant” if one wasn’t. Further if being against Israel was any kind of racism it would be anti Ashkenazi-ism because most of the people of Israel are Ashkenazi not Semitic if we discount the Arabs in that country (much like the Israeli authorities actually do in reality).
But even the Zionists them selves are being used either knowingly or far more often unknowingly by those with a worse agenda than genocide of just one race and just the motive of greed (like that’s not bad enough…) they are being used as tools by the esotericists who themselves appear to be Zionists but in reality use such cover as just a mechanism to bring death to the world and set nation against nation, the esotericists have a genocide against all races planned, including against the Ashkenazi whom whilst they belong to the same ethnicity as much of the esotericists (though some esotericists at the top of the pyramid are black white etc) most Ashkenazi are not esotericists themselves just like most masons are not members of the diabolical sects such as the Rosicrucians or Jacobean Frankists.
Positively impressed that at least A ceiler of Rust and An tearnen support the flying of the Palestinian flag from our city public servants offices and are opposed to the butcher of the innocent Gazzans.
Helmski Bhoy
02:30 on
13 August, 2014
Yes.
And they`re trying to direct the understandable fury of their supporters onto Celtic.
This is beyond our control and out of our hands.
JusticeforRamallah
02:44 on
13 August, 2014
Macjay posting more anti Palestinian propaganda from fox news.
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Now ,the question is,was your error intentional or accidental ?
Al – Aqsa T.V.(HAMAS)…..May 2,2014
JusticeforRamallah
02:44 on
13 August, 2014
“Positively impressed that at least A ceiler of Rust and An tearnen support the flying of the Palestinian flag from our city public servants offices and are opposed to the butcher of the innocent Gazzans.”
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This is the poster who impresses you:
A Ceiler Gonof Rust
01:11 on
13 August, 2014
sftb, dear god, I wish I’d not looked back. Antother one cow towing to the the sining knob biter.
Is beefheart the poster who used to be john oneil?
Why would I not be surprised at him kissing arse with fascist cocks.
Auldheid @ 01:09
A classic interpretation of the continual CQN wars between the positive and the negative views of the board, the management team and the individual players.
I’m happy to be in the positive camp.
There’s not enough time left to be gloomy and negative.
macjay1 for Neil Lennon
02:44 on 13 August, 2014
Helmski Bhoy
02:30 on
13 August, 2014
Yes.
And they`re trying to direct the understandable fury of their supporters onto Celtic.
This is beyond our control and out of our hands.
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Hunbelievable. Any sympathy I had for them is now null and void. And to think we are being shamed from all corners. Even Yahoo has us as going into hiding.
Mr Z, I know that it doesn’t read too well on here for your good self but if you are lurking I would like to know your take on this and if Polish media have picked up on it?
acgr
I think everyone opposes the killings of innocent children…
And civilians
Gazzans, Palestinians, Israelis, Yazidis, Shias, Sunnis, Hindus, Rastafarians, Christians.
Christians in Egypt, Libya, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Bengal, Philippines, Columbia, Cuba, Nigeria, Indonesia, North Korea and numerous other countries where Christians of numerous denominations are being persecuted, martyred, raped and captured for slavery.
We are being overwhelmed by tyranny and we in the west can only hope that our prayers can help reprieve our fellow men.
Macjay without speaking Arabic I would not know what the actual curriculum was. I will trust my instinct that fox news translators are plain lying about a totally innocuous, I don’t trust any media far less the totally biased and asinine fox news . It was on fox news I seen that same video with fake translation, any one can say some foreign language says this or that, unless we speak the language we can’t trust any one claiming it says this or that. On Israel fox is such a propaganda tool.
Someone back a page or so lamented the silence and absence of Pope Francis while Christians around the world are suffering persecution.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/pope-francis-deeply-concerned-about-christian-persecution-says-stronger-than-1st-century-church-121562/
This is from June and I suspect there may be even earlier references.
June 15, 2014|8:34 am
In an interview with Spanish-language magazine “La Vanguardia,” Pope Francis said he is “deeply concerned” about the persecution of Christians today, which is “stronger than in the first centuries of the Church.” He also discussed fundamentalism and anti-Semitism.
“The persecuted Christians are a concern that touches me very deeply as a pastor,” Francis told the magazine, according to Catholic News Agency.
Anybody
?
Who is the group ISIS and what is their agenda ? Thanks.
JusticeforRamallah
03:19 on
13 August, 2014
I bloody hate Fox News too.
One sided propoganda.
ONE SIDED.That`s why I think it is essential to see, as I said , “the other side of the coin.”
Nobody has been more critical than I have about Israeli military activity and expansionism.
Incidentally,if there had been a mistranslation or distortion of what the children were saying,I`m damn sure it would have been pointed out long before now.
Cheers,my fellow Tim.
ISIS / ISIL
Aims to establish an Islamic Caliphate based on Sharia Law.
Helmski Bhoy
03:15 on
13 August, 2014
I would imagine the bold Mr.Z. would sensibly be keeping a low profile.
Not hiding.Never hiding.
:-)
‘GG
03:33 on
13 August, 2014
ISIS / ISIL
Aims to establish an Islamic Caliphate based on Sharia Law.
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Just as long as they don`t try to stick it on us.
The Oz govt. has expressed it`s concern about some who have returned to this country with their new-found skills in decapitation.
mungolian bhoy
03:24 on
13 August, 2014
ISIS
Now changed to I.S.(Islamic State)
From the DR
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/polish-fa-chief-brands-legia-4042599
Polish FA chief brands Legia Warsaw incompetent as it emerges ineligible defender raised suspension issue BEFORE match that got them axed
Aug 13, 2014 03:00 By Craig Swan 0 Comments
RECORD Sport understands Bartosz Bereszynski raised the suspension issue after being tipped off to a potential problem before the Murrayfield clash – but was assured he was clear to play.
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POLISH FA chief Zbigniew Boniek has branded Legia Warsaw incompetent – as fresh evidence from key figure Bartosz Bereszynski last night blew a gaping hole in his club’s appeal to UEFA.
Bereszynski’s three-minute appearance as a sub against Celtic at Murrayfield led to the Scottish champions’ controversial reinstatement to the Champions League.
Legia’s failure to register the defender for the previous round against St Patrick’s meant he was technically still banned for the ties against Ronny Deila’s team.
And, in a stunning new twist, Record Sport understands Bereszynski raised the suspension issue with Legia hierarchy BEFORE the game.
Polish sources have revealed Warsaw keeper Dusan Kuciak tipped his team-mate off to a potential problem before the Murrayfield clash but that Bereszynski was assured by the club he was clear to play.
UEFA will hear Legia’s appeal against expulsion in Nyon this morning but the new calamity surrounding their blunder provides damning evidence.
Bereszynski said: “I will not confirm or deny this information as these are matters which will stay within club walls. Who has to know at the club knows.”
But when asked to confirm the story involving Kuciak, who had encountered a similar case during his spell with Romanians Vaslui, Bereszynski said: “I was convinced the suspension was completed but I can confirm Dusan was first to react.
“He told me there had been a similar situation in Vaslui and I should check it out. Then I started to get interested.”
Bereszynksi’s admission does not look good for the Poles and their own FA chief has also sank the boot in.
Boniek has been critical of Celtic’s refusal to have dialogue but insisted Legia only have themselves to blame.
He said: “The guilt does not lie with UEFA or Celtic but with Legia. The people who are responsible for it have turned out to be completely incompetent. As the head of the Polish FA I would always try to help Legia or any other Polish team.
“I called, I asked, I got strongly involved but the provisions for which Legia were punished left no doubt. It had to be a walkover.
“Could Celtic have behaved differently? I know what I would have done but 95 per cent of clubs are not willing to give up such an opportunity.
“I played in a European Cup Final where 38 people were killed and I was the only player who gave my $100,000 win bonus to the families of the victims but everyone has a different mentality.
“It is clearly written that playing a suspended player means a forfeit. Someone at Legia has made a mistake you should not commit.”
Bereszynski also admitted he had no gripe with Celtic and said: “The fault in this whole affair is not with Celtic, just us.
“This is today’s football. If you are not vigilant at every step you’re out of the game.”
HH