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Supersutton it’s our inability to score and win away games.
Simples
D :)
That’s Ange completed his crash course in Scottish football. Livi away always presents a unique challenge and we’ll lose more games this season, but it can’t be in the same manner as that.
Me and WeeBGFC – just back in from the game.
Niggling bad feeling started to seep in from about 15 minutes when the intensity of Livi’s players started to hold sweigh over ours across most of the park. Wee Jota couldn’t go around their No 3, Abada’s crossing was rottent and McCarthy? Never seen so many trully awful passes from one player in one game – just seemed to pass it very deliberately 10 years away from anyone – time and time again. Turnbull looked leg-weary. Big Tam was the best man on the park in the first half and Juranovic tried really hard – but little support from those around them. That said, Boli played surprisingly well for a first appearance in 18 months.
Hard start for Ange but its early days – he is picking up a nightmare situation and it isn’t easy to turn that around in 3 months.
HH
BGFC
We’re still making largish mistakes, I see
BG
Agree with the majority of that.
But this is the SPL , against the worst team in the league.
Not good enough
Today confirms for me that Ange isn’t a manager that can change a game. The often used example of Rodgers bringing on Eddie at Ibrox when down to ten men is well beyond Ange.
He’s closer to Lennon than Rodgers imo. We’re beginning to see why a manager in his mid 50s had been nowhere near Europe.
If Ange is more Lennon than Rodgers then the only way we change this pattern is to hire better coaching staff and give more support to the manager.
But we’ve kept the support staff from last season. I think we’re in trouble.
The huns are struggling much more this season otherwise we’d be 9 points behind.
Today has removed the blinkers.
Although we have lost a few this season this is the first where I have felt a bit despondent.
Context needed though.
Livi pitch
5 top players injured
3 top players sold in recent window and new ones adjusting….( it happens in Scotland as we don’t get first picks in the window ).
2 days between a tough away euro tie and this one.
Even really good teams have struggled at Livi in past 4 years. Inc BR managed ones with full squads.
We are work in progress and the MIB cost us at Tynecastle.
We were the better team at Ibrox.
We will improve.
Sure the coach probably needs help and today was not good but it’s the first time we didn’t ‘play our game’.
For me it’s about ensuring we are no further behind and ideally better than that with a league cup win by xmas.
Our Japanese window will give us the momentum.
Anyone notice that much maligned Greg Taylor has been missing for much of last 5 games. Lost 4 won 1.
The mantra was/is, all good players are signed by the ‘flavour of the month’ manager – the bad by Lawwell and/or the Board.
Now its good results and performances down to ‘Ange-ball’ & AP – the bad due to the Board’s backroom staff.
Pathetic reasoning…and any attempt to take solace from the Ibrox result is ‘ head in the sand’ desperation.
ST TAMS on 19TH SEPTEMBER 2021 6:28 PM
But this is the SPL , against the worst team in the league. Not good enough.
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Don’t disagree with that – a very poor performance. Even against Livi, or other SPFL teams, we can’t afford players who don’t contribute. I’d say we had at least three today – McCarthy, Turnbull, Abada.
I’m sure people who were at the game would be able to name other non-contributors. Not saying they didn’t try – just no end product.
Few crumbs of comfort – Hart, CCV…that’s about it.
HH
BGFC
The league table makes for dire reading. The only consolation is that sevco are struggling too.
In the first quarter we play hearts, sevco, aberdeen and hibs away. Arguably, our 4 hardest away games, although all away games are difficult at the moment.
Sevco play celtic, hearts, hibs and aberdeen at home.
If we can stay in touch until the second quarter and get our strongest team on the park we should still have a chance.
We will go through a lot more players and maybe another couple of managers before we ‘right the ship’.
“The road is long with many a winding-turn…..he ain’t heavy……”
I hope that mob get relegated never to be seen again…..If only for the sake…That…
They take that excuse for a playin surface wae them, Along with the recycled car tyre
rubber black infill…Surely their must be a health question concern aboot aw that stuff????
Not winning away in the league for seven months is shameful.
It’s a worry.
Then you remember that run includes our assistant manager as well and you worry even more.
I don’t see a coaching team learning from their mistakes or in any way preparing players for predictably tough away games.
Dire performance exacerbated by lack of quality on the bench, Soro, Bitton and Mikey Johnston coming on summed it up. We are missing players but I don’t think we’ve a good starting 11 never mind a squad full. Still on the Ange bus
DRAMBOWIE CELT
Along with the recycled car tyre
rubber black infill…Surely their must be a health question concern aboot aw that stuff????
Found to cause cancer in kids here in Maryland, in the US. Now banned. Artificial surfaces are now permitted only with organic material sub base.
Drambowiecelt.
When Hart made that one handed save in the first half he was wiping the f***ing stuff out of his eyes.
Shocking.☘
Livi had used every sub by the time Ange got round to making his first.
It’s beyond me how Ange has got to 72 minutes without making changes.
Definitely more Lennon than Rodgers. Any way, I’m away to try and salvage something from a fine Sunday evening.
A fair amount of straw clutching on here this evening. I hope the optimists are right, but there is a real danger the Undead will have an unassailable lead by the end of October. Hard to see today’s performers winning at Aberdeen, Easter Road or Motherwell, or frankly, any away ground. That’s how bad we have been.
will ange make it to next year to finish off the ‘transformation’? Oh boy, today was bad.
pathetic, no idea , one trick pony stuff , not nearly good enough from our club today.
Changes should have been made at HT
Off McCarthy , Abada, Turnbull
On Soro , Bitton , Johnston
Ange has 5 domestic games he needs to win. 2 at home should be fine. 3 away will be a challenge.
If suspect he will win max 3 and we will stumble along and replace him by Christmas
Rolling stone that was a quick reply to you as the previous attempt was lost in a refresh
Cmon guys we know that playing on that awfull pitch makes the game a lottery.
We will improve as the season goes on.
We will win this league with points to spare
Chelsea manager Thomas Tuchel to Sky Sports on a game of two halves: “I was absolutely not happy with the first 45 minutes. We lacked intent, energy and relentless in duels and 50-50 balls.
“We wanted to impress by pure skills but in derbies like this it is not always about just skills. It is about aggression, winning duels and performing better as a team. We spoke clearly about it at half time. In the second half it was a very good performance and a deserved win in the second half. It was a very good reaction so I am happy with the performance in the second half.”
The question must be asked- why couldn’t we do similarly, and change our outlook at halftime?
DAVID66 on 19TH SEPTEMBER 2021 6:22 PM
Supersutton it’s our inability to score and win away games.
Simples
D :)
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Ah. But we play the same away from home as at home. Hence the 3 goals against Betis.
So, I’m not conceding that point. Though factually correct.
McGregor and Kyogo major losses.
Ange sounds gutted in the post-match
Making the right noises about poor mentality going into the game
This was our first poor performance since Hearts 11 games ago, let’s see how he responds and what he learns before writing him off.
I’d didnt see the game today so cannot comment on the performance.
The result , however , speaks for itself.
It’s too early to judge Ange but if I have one concern with him it’s the same as I had with NL and Ronnie deila , ie that this job is the biggest they’ve had and likely to be the biggest they’ll ever have.
I worry that that makes them less fearful of failure and more likely to put up with mediocrity in others.
While no-one wants another departure like Rodgers at least he and Martin O’Neill had ambitions beyond us.
I doubt AP has.
@Iniquit& Sean…Jeezo…..I wonder if that crap comes down the nostrils, or coughed up
by Any players ??? bloody Carcinogens ??Who knows……Get it Tae…..
I thought livi could have had 2 or 3
I’m taking hope from what I understand is that teams which Ange takes over seem to take a wee while to adapt but when they do…
And we’ve seen evidence of how effective it can be.
Boligoli proving today that he has not played for Celtic for so long not, due to any Covid breaches, but because he is not very good at playing the game of football.
Stuff which might escape you when reading MSM in the next 24 hours.
Even when reading Celtic blogs.
Celtic has won 7 out of 14 competitive games this season. 1 draw 50% ratio
Rangers has won 4 out of 10 competitive games this season. 2 draws 40% ratio
Celtic is a crisis club in transition and rangers are of course all conquering champions.
Last October I accepted the league was lost, can’t believe it’s only September and already it’s looking like we’ve no chance.
INIQUITOUSIV on 19TH SEPTEMBER 2021 7:09 PM
The question must be asked- why couldn’t we do similarly, and change our outlook at halftime?
Because he could bring on the motm from the CL final, while we had Mikey Johnston.
Tuchel is also the best coach tactically in the world at the moment. Anyone suffers by comparison.
TCC
Bolingoli was one of the few who performed adequately IMO.
Certainly had more appetite for it than McCarthy Bitton and a few others. Never hid like some either.
BURNLEY78 on 19TH SEPTEMBER 2021 7:20 PM
A quick read of Sevvies forums shows that the fans aren’t fooled
Our last 5 results read LLWLL.
My mate asked if that was an acronym of Lawwell?😉
The huddle
Why do you say this ?
We have been to 3 tough venues where even Brendan struggled.
The Ibrox lot have been to perth, Tannadice and Dingwall.
We are on a learning curve. They are on a downward curve.