Friendly games are all about building match sharpness while hopefully avoiding injury. Celtic were given an excellent opportunity to shape up against Real Madrid last night but a suspected broken jaw to Dylan McGeouch who was knocked unconscious will set the player back several weeks.
Henrik Larsson spectacularly returned to action after a double jaw break after three weeks in 2003, scoring with a header within minutes although he walked off the field after his injury without additional complications. We wish Dylan a speedy recovery and hope to see him in Champions League action next month.
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MWD
I am sure it is a mistake,but my nome de blog is FANADPATRIOT.
Ernie. I mean fair comment based on what I have read. I have already asked you for your insight into which books Preston (or the others) have written in which they show their understanding of the document I am quoting.
If they have done so, I will be very glad to hear it.
And if you want to see the document, you can read it at this link.
http://secviccentdocumentosoficiales.blogspot.co.uk/2006/09/carta-colectiva-de-los-obispos.html
MWD,
Nah, I see it the flag raising and lowering as a free advert for military recruitment. And they never need to invest much in TV adverts under tory governments as the young unemployed are usually compelled to head straight to them, believing its their only hope of a career.
We’ll still very much one of the few aggressors in world warfare I’m afraid.
Olympics as a sporting event was outstanding though; never supported any country myself, just the underdogs :) The athletes, volunteers, and organizers did a fantastic job.
Some absolute warmers on here tonight
Ernie. All I’m saying here is that if guys like CJ Sansom want to pretend that they understand what was happening in the Catholic Church in Spain during the civil war, the least they can do is familiarise themselves with what the bishops of Spain said to their brother bishops when they were describing their experience of living through it.
If they have not done that or, what was the phrase “can’t be arsed to google it”, they can’t pontificate in the way they have done.
I’m glad you mentioned the gospel. You will notice how frequently the document references the gospel. The men who wrote it were expecting a knock on their doors any time.
One of their predecessors, Josep Torras i Bages, had his tomb sacked during that first year of the civil war. He died in 1916. He is acknowledged now as a great champion of Catalan culture and Catalan nationalism, a subject dear to the hearts of many friends of Celtic. But they didn’t just desecrate the man’s grave. They took his skull and played football with it.
The men who signed that document were entitled to believe a similar fate awaited them. They were brave men. They told the truth.
Sometimes it seems that people on here get way too excited.
Maybe quell such excitement till after a match(which usually you can do with the refs input.lets not fall out eh !
Celtic_First on 13 August, 2012 at 00:35 said:
The Church sided with the wealthy and powerful, whatever the make up of the clergy.
The fact that so many of the clergy were from the poor (it could hardly be otherwise given the proportion of the population that was poor) makes their stance all the worse.
No one denies the war and the whole background to it was complicated, but it the final analysis people had to be on one side or the other. The Catholic Church chose the wrong side.
Is there still a daily Mass being said for Franco?
Watched Olympic closing ceremony, mouth agape in disbelief , still can’t believe Peterhead fecked up!
The best Olympics ever? Sure was quality, no doubt!
But you still can’t beat the winter games, sport on snow!
Try the downhill sledging at Bella Park via a metal post!
Still waiting on ma medal!
fanadpatriot
Dont tell me. Tell my iBone.
MWD :-))
ipaddy
Name them.
Lubo’s. Unknown to you your medal was implanted when you hit the iron post.
MWD
Lubos leather jacket, newco no a go go
You can’t sledge through metal posts – I could have told you that.
Were you responsible for the Ipox power cuts aka switched off floodlights last winter, or was that due to unpaid bills?? :)
Ernie.
Last comments.
“Is there still a daily Mass being said for Franco?”
No idea.
“No one denies the war and the whole background to it was complicated, but it the final analysis people had to be on one side or the other. The Catholic Church chose the wrong side.”
I take it you didn’t click on the link I gave you.
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Con nuestros votos de paz juntamos nuestro perdón generoso para nuestros perseguidores y nuestros sentimientos de caridad para todos. Y decimos sobre los campos de batalla y a nuestros hijos de uno y otro bando la palabra del apóstol: “El Señor sabe cuánto os amamos a todos en las entrañar de Jesucristo”.
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In the years that followed the civil war and World War II, I have no doubt that the strengthening of Franco’s Spain as an officially Catholic country, meaning that the Catholic Church was the established Church, brought out a triumphalist attitude in some Catholics, including priests and bishops, which is lamentable.
Nevertheless, to imply that this triumphalism characterised Spanish catholicism during the civil war is at odds with the document I have shared with you. Also, it is to fail to understand how Cardinal Tarancón could have held the attitude he did and could have come to dominate Catholic opinion in the way he did in the last decades of Franco’s life and in the 1980s and part of the 1990s. But that’s a story for another day.
Read the document, Ernie.
Good luck to young Dylan. Was hoping that he would enjoy a run in the team when the European Group stages kick off. The SPL games either side of the Euro ties gives Neil the ideal opportunity to give some of the promising youngster a number of games.
Hopefully Dylan will be back in hoops soon.
Amazed at Celtic supporters interest in politics near and far, old and new, with so many children in the world hungry there are more important things to get worked up about.
Celtic_First on 13 August, 2012 at 00:55 said:
The Catholic Church did lobby the governments of France, the UK and the USA not to provide aid to the democratically elected government of Spain in their fight against Franco, who had the backing of Hitler and Mussolini.
That’s a good starting point to consider the role the Catholic Church played.
The role of the church in the Spanish Civil War was shameful
As ever they backed the forces of reaction- anyone who says otherwise is deluded
some go the night,
anche…,, you bring nothing
anche gli angeli @ 01:29
“anyone who says otherwise is deluded “.
Are you able to qualify your authority on this subject?
Ouch, Just past the 71st minutes of last night’s game.
That was a worrying injury on young Dylan.
Look forward to seeing him back though- had a great game.
ok too lazy to read back but looks like there is some Franco’s 11 overspill from yesterday. Well its quite simple really from an intellectual, sporting and literary perspective. You have George Orwell (what a moron) on one side and you have the Irish catholic supporters of the ideology of Franco on the other.Ehhh..ohhhh. tough one..canny make my mind up.
Celtic_First
as you know I an agnostic francophille Catalan.
Got Barcelona next week.
And Copenhagen for some reason.
Having to keep this bloody house tidy as our good friend father Morton
is popping in soon
titter yea not
MinceCFC@CelticMindedcom
You have been warned. Prepare to claw your own eyes out. What has been uploaded cannot be deleted, Billy… http://youtu.be/4pRnjU9iWT8
Heh nobody appreciated me for my Alfredo De Stefano joke last night how come? have you guys gone all Puskas on me?
Margaret McGill fir yourself an oldie but a goodie
http://www.flickr.com/photos/xcaballe/18943611/
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 13 August, 2012 at 02:32 said:
How do you tell someone that their religion is shit!
Mags @ 02:30
Come on bud, surely you have the sense to see the Catholic Church is an easy target for political evils as its the only main religion with a recognisable hierarchy?
Established religions should never be blamed for corruption – its people and politics.
Discuss in 2000 words… :)
Is that young Sevco fan the son of Britney??
<ags..,
I look at it like I look at my club, the hieraechy rarely represent the good people, and I believe the good people far outnumber them, so generally I cant blame catholics for what the board does, innit geez
Fortune`s
JSD band?
If you played with them you must have been good.
Loved their harmonies and the fact that they were prepared to sing a Cat Stevens number.
WTF??
Post match analysis from last night, and WGS’ shirt is burstin open at the stomach, even though he’s slimmer than he was when playing for the sheepies!?!
Recommend switch from 13″ to 14.5″.
WGS should take my advice as this is not football we’re talking about now.
oops, mags,
easy, if their religon preaches death to infidels then its shit
macjay
:)) Cheers, but never felt good enough.
Brilliant musicians, and a pleasure to know them. What was the Cat Steven’s number? Sean has done some outstanding Matt McGinn ones.
Fortunes Favour Mibbes on 13 August, 2012 at 02:37 said:
I see what you’re saying but fundamentally it boils down to calling a spade a babe! You either agree that the Vatican has sided and promoted fascism and Nazism in the 20th century or you like Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka as supremo in the chocolate factory. Seasy Peasy if you ask me. What say you?
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 13 August, 2012 at 02:42 said:
What if it doesnt preach but implicitly assumes thy will be done?
Canamalar,
No you as well?!? The Catholic Church does NOT preach death to infidels!!
;)
Nor does the Koran either.
Satanism is the evil one to watch in my honest opinion….
mags you think nothing has changed, do the vatican still have a cia corrupting the message of the Christ
Mags @ 02:37
I say I is lovin yer work :))
Official stance by the hierarchy did not represent the practical role of the Catholic Church in WW2. Simples. Point being its important not to label the Church as a protagonist without clarifying the point that you’re referring to a few leaders who used the great enemy Politics to maintain their own agenda. The people of the Church behaved very differently.
It’s a very similar argument, and am sorry to have to use this, that the huns use when referring to “priest” = “well you know what”. A nonsense. Nothing to do with the congregation, priests, bishops and cardinals. Same as most of us in the UK were anti-war. Same as most Americans didn’t vote for Bush of the Ira invasion. Oligarchies.
FFM,
we’re not talking about what the koran or the bible say, we are talking about religeous interpretation of the message and the people who profess to be closer to the meaning than anyone else, like you said, politicians and free will eh
neil canamalar lennon hunskelper extrordinaire
02:32 on 13 August, 2012
>>>>>>>>
Sad….I nearly wept…with laughter!
“We don’t care..”
Aye ye dae! Yer team’s mince,yer manager’s mince,yer tea’s oot;an’ just wait ’til ye get a load ae East Stirling at the back end of January. Tell us how much ye care then.
Stupid hun.
HH!