The annual raft of idle speculation unsettling Celtic’s playing and managerial resources is well underway. One newspaper headline today proclaimed, “Celtic boss wants Canaries to approach him”, based on Neil Lennon when talking about moving to England saying, “There has been no offer, there has been no concrete phone call or anything like that, so I haven’t really had a decision to make on it”. Countless others have followed in a similar theme.
Neil Lennon has not really hidden the fact that he would like to manage in the FA Premier League one day, but none of the journos with pages to fill have any notion on his thoughts of dropping a division in England. In the real world, Neil is showing no reticence in pursuing team development plans for next season. We’ll be involved in Champions League football two months from tomorrow, the manager is busy on the matters in hand.
Best wishes to John Brown for his inspired attempts to take down Newco Rangers. More power to you, John, I hope you have any many lemmings lined up as possible. Some months ago the plotters had a notion that they would starve Newco shareholders into handing over the club for zilch, or £1 less than Rangers were sold to a liquidation expert for. It remains possible that Sevco will starve, but notions that there will be an outcome for the plotters which is more desirable than an existence under the current crew are fading by the day.
Don’t forget, we’ve Tommy Gemmell, live on the blog, on Friday between 13:00 and 16:00. He’ll be here to chat and answer your questions.
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Coolmore Mafia
How much money do the Spanish teams contesting European finals regulalry get? It’s not about spending huge sums on wages and transfer fees. It’s about getting the right players and blending them into a team.
Do not get hung up on money. I think Newcastle have spent in the region of £500m in the last 20 years and haven’t won a trophy for 50 years.
LB
proudbhoy 02:28
Saw the show aswel, loada garbage.
Green an mccoist making out that it was fans decision to start in div3 and i couldnt believe the 9 in a row comment.
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Actually it’s refreshing to hear that they know they “started in” Division 3 and weren’t “relegated” into it.
TET
Hope your good lady is on the mend!
YOU should be more careful!
(I know it wisny your fault)
;-)
Morning all.
Hope the rumours about Danny are unfounded.
Just received a text from a friend in Italy who informs me that Sammi’s gesture to young Jay after Saturday’s match has been shown on tv, and has also appeared in the newspapers. CFC being portrayed in a very positive way.
Well done the Tallies!
HH!!
LiviBhoy
What amount do you think that Barca, Real and Atletico spend? Are you serious that we can compete with that. Not since Porto a decade a go, has a team in our financial orbit won the CL.
geordie munro
09:53 on 15 May, 2014
fat salary will want to know HIS name…you’d better send it on, or else …. Hahahahahahaha
THE EXILED TIM,
Could not agree with you more about Lenny.Thats why I was angry at his refusal to come out and say”I am staying”.Maybe he is putting a bit of pressure on PL.Who knows?.
I love Lenny.Nothing would give me greater pleasure than Lenny holding up the 10th League Trophy.If god spares me that is.
I just cant think of a better place for him to be.Maybe its time for him to get this “One year rolling contract “changed.
LiviBhoy – God bless wee Oscar
11:04 on
15 May, 2014
Coolmore Mafia
How much money do the Spanish teams contesting European finals regulalry get? It’s not about spending huge sums on wages and transfer fees. It’s about getting the right players and blending them into a team.
Do not get hung up on money. I think Newcastle have spent in the region of £500m in the last 20 years and haven’t won a trophy for 50 years.
LB
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What chance of blending them into a team if a financially doped mob from a bigger league like the look of them and offer silly money?!
Ok we take the money to the detriment of the team, but these gems are not easy to find.
If you sell a Wanyama you don’t replace him with a Wanyama – its just not possible. So you look for someone with other strengths.
But a Wanyama in the current team would be a towering influence.
HH
Jeez-Barca v AM 5PM KO Saturday
I’m not worried about Lennie moving on.
People change jobs all the time and usually for more money.
Nothing wrong with that.
In my life I have had 4 jobs and I’m 65.
Always moved for more money.
Cheers joe,
Heading there for a wee swatch as we speak :)
‘After Atletico Madrid knocked Chelsea out of the Champions League, Jose Mourinho said that the Spanish club held a big advantage as they’d had the same coach for the last three seasons.
“It’s the difference between one year and three and it’s a big difference…they are a very good side, very adapted to the ideas of this manager – every player fits his idea of how to play,” he said.
Maybe so Jose, but when you look at the cost of the two starting line-ups that took the field on Wednesday night, it really brings home just how impressive Atletico’s victory was.
That is because Chelsea’s starting line-up cost more than SIX TIMES as much as Atletico’s line-up, with three Chelsea players – Willian, Eden Hazard and Fernando Torres – each costing more all by themselves than the ENTIRE Atletico team.
Indeed, £50m flop Fernando Torres cost a whopping £20m more than all 11 Atletico players put together.
The most expensive signing on the Atletico side was Arda Turan who cost €12m (just under £10m) when the club purchased him from Galatasaray in summer 2011.
Without doubt, though, the bargain buy of their team was Diego Costa who cost less than €2m and who will reportedly be sold to – you guessed it – Chelsea this summer for upwards of €60m.
The moral of the story is that while money can help you achieve success, it can’t guarantee it!’
Atletico starting XI
Courtois – loan
Juanfran – €4m
Miranda – Free
Diego Godin – €8m
Filipe Luis – €10.5m
Mario Suarez – Free
Tiago – Free
Koke – Free
Arda Turan – €12m
Adrian – Free
Diego Costa – €1.83m (€1m transfer fee, €833,000 in agents fees)
-lifted from ole Eurosport
As Coolmore points out the really depressing thought is that the team that finished bottom of the EPL this year will get more prize money for being relegated than Man U did for winning it last year.
Coolmore Mafia @ 11.01.
You are absolutely correct IMO.
We can not even come close to compete in the financial ” merry go round ” The gap is huge and increasing each season.
Even if we get the the right players in ( for the correct price and remuneration package ) and improve them; a smaller team than ourselves with more financial clout will come in and take them with impunity. e.g. Norwich.
We can identify the correct players, keep them for a limited time then they move. Never forget all teams have scouts, ours just have to be better with less.
The way forward must be getting a better return for our investment in first class facilities a la Southampton.
HH.
Beatbhoy
He is, and I also think they will.
HH
Philbhoy
Thanks, just off oot to see the Doc, she can walk, just……
HH
Philbhoy, me ole money grabbin’ mercenary- so that means you’ll be interested in takin’ over at the ole Death Star?
Livibhoy
Had you said it’s not ALL about transfer fees and wages, I think you’d have been more accurate.
However, you can’t deny the evidence about the spending of the winners of the CL since Porto. Even then, they had the advantage over us of having much better access to the South American market, and less problems with work permits and the like.
For every Newcastle, you have a Chelsea or Man City, who would never have won their titles after so many barren years without the huge spend on transfers and wages.
The difference is that they made sure they used some of the money to attract top-class managers too.
setting free the bears supports Res. 12 & Oscar Knox
Real and Barca are a different league to most teams.
How much do Sevilla earn from TV in relation to the English sides?
Could Celtic beat Hull City? I think they could. Could Celtic beat any team in the English top flight? On our day yes.
Why get hung up on the money. We have never been a club to spend big. Our time will come. We have to build a team and like any side get a slice of luck in the draw and in a couple of games and play out our skins in a few others.
I believe Celtic will achieve big things in Europe again. Why wouldn’t we? We have done it in the past and we will do so again.
I don’t get concerned over the money earned down south. These clubs buy players at hugely inflated transfer fees and pay them ridiculous wages for their ability.
Look at Fellaini at Man Utd. I watched the guy close up against Scotland. This guy cost Manchester United £32m I believe. Charlie Mulgrew did not allow him a kick at the baw. I’m not saying Charlie is worth that money or that he is as good as the big guy from Belgium but what I am saying is that English clubs are paying crazy fees and wages to players that are simply not worth it. They spend the money as quickly as they get it and in most cases they achieve very little.
Celtic may not have access to millions and millions of pounds at this minute but I hope if we ever do we stick to our current thinking and spend money on what we believe a player is worth and not what a club wants for the player. We also must promote from within as much as possible. Young Scottish players are no better or worse than any player in Europe. They need nurtured and they need games. Celtic have the correct strategy in place I believe for the football club to be run in the correct manner. We can all be impatient but we as fans know that Celtic will get to these big finals again. It’s something that can and will happen. These finals may come round every 30 years or maybe 20 years but that is the same for most clubs in European football outwith a very small amount of huge clubs who are getting a lot of money and spending it very quickly too. Everyone is pround of what the Lions achieved and they way they did it but probably the most impressive stat from that success was that few players were bought and most came through the youth set up at the club. They were all born within 30 miles of Glasgow. That will probably never be equalled again BUT Celtic have to keep with the ideals of the club it is our identity. We rear our own players. We always have done and when we do we usually have great success. Would you be happy to in a European trophy with mercaneries from all over the globe each earing upwards of £200k a week and costing between £20m-£100m. I don’t think I could relate to a club like that. As much as I would love Celtic to win a dozen European cups I would rather win one in a similar fashion to the way we won it before.
Throwing money at football is a short term success. £70m doesn;t get you much these days without proper foundations in place and proper strategies and planning. It’s not about this season it’s about planning ahead for furture seasons.
We all need to remember that and remain patient.
LB
Looking for some advice.
When I return to Scotland in June, I’ll be looking for a post-paid mobile phone contract. I have a new Samsung Galaxy S5 so will require a sim card only.
I need some recommendations as to the best service provider to go for.
In my 9 years in Australia I have been with Virgin Mobile and have been happy with the service, but obviously Virgin UK is not the same entity.
Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated.
DBBIA
Ah, the Death Star!!
Just waiting to see how ole Louis got on with his appraisal before I make my move!
setting free the bears supports Res. 12 & Oscar Knox
11:07 on
15 May, 2014
LiviBhoy
What amount do you think that Barca, Real and Atletico spend? Are you serious that we can compete with that. Not since Porto a decade a go, has a team in our financial orbit won the CL.
Correct.If we can continue to qualify for the CL,taking what we can in cash,we will be doing well.Just maybe once every 3 years,I would be happy if we went for a wee bit more.
Sometimes a team just clicks.Happy Newcastle have not.
The football world is not fair.We have to do as best we can.
SFTB
While it’s fair to describe Atletico as a financial basket case, the majority of their problems are a legacy of trying to keep up with the Royals across town.
Fact is, Atletico are just a little bigger then Celtic in terms of income and costs.
We turnover £75M, they turnover £85M (exchange rates @ £0.85/€)
We spend £40M on wages, they spend £54M
Both clubs are in surplus on player trading in recent seasons.
In short, and in financial terms, Celtic and Atletico are in the same league.
Real, Barca and the other leviathans are 5 times our size.
GCT- Might be better with a Sim only contract,you can get yearly deals,or month to month which are a wee bit dearer.I’m with 3 and good coverage over here.
Gold Coast Tom
11:23 on
15 May, 2014
Looking for some advice.
When I return to Scotland in June, I’ll be looking for a post-paid mobile phone contract. I have a new Samsung Galaxy S5 so will require a sim card only.
I need some recommendations as to the best service provider to go for.
In my 9 years in Australia I have been with Virgin Mobile and have been happy with the service, but obviously Virgin UK is not the same entity.
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Different holding company, same mobile provider, Timmy;)
Good luck with the move!
HH
Bada Bing –
Yes it is a sim only contract I will be signing up for.
When you say you’re with 3, is that a company? Sorry but I am well out of touch with UK options.
JJ
Dawn Commander runs tomorrow at Aintree in the 8.25 – this is the one TnT was providing the update for this morning.
Colebrooke is also listed to run at Aintree tomorrow (7.15) – I believe TnT is going to update on that if/when he receives any info.
Cheers,
BJM
GCT Believe it or not, Tesco might be a good call!
GCT- Yes 3 is one of the biggest providers here.They also have good rates if you are abroad,USA is free for example on a lot of their packages.
http://shop.tescomobile.com/pay-monthly/sim-only?gclid=COPL_u_drb4CFYXItAodu2sAow
Ole Sevco mobile not so good; although the flat rate is only £16.90 a month you have to pay cash.
Coverage is also a bit patchy, outside Ayrshire and Larkhall that is.
You can however use it to text in your order to Greggs.
Bada Bing –
Thanks mate.
Richie-
Excellent. Thanks for the link.
DBBIA –
LOL tremendous.
Rwe
Well I’m glad you got that off your chest. I hope you feel better.
There was an awful lot about what I should and should not be doing – in your opinion – which is spot on.
Isn’t that what forums are about, the expression of opinions?
You even gave your opinion on independence – that ” nothing will change for the poor, the unemployed, the homeless, the sick, the disadvantaged whether it’s a Yes or a No vote”. I don’t know what you base that opinion on as you did not give a source for verification. I disagree entirely with this sentiment and I have put forward an economic case to support my view, in my opinion of course.
I’m always happy to answer questions on my favoured option for the future of Scotland – Independence
Independence: the status of virtually every normal nation on the planet – but I’m not prepared to waste time responding to the few who are committed to maintaining the Union, irrespective of any amount of reasoned argument presented to them. Likewise, those who claim to want every opinion sourced as if this forum was a piece of academic research. They could actually do us all a favour by looking at the volumes of information already presented by the broad Yes campaign. It really isn’t difficult to find if you are genuinely interested and prepared to look.
Or is your argument really that I should be prepared to take the time to respond to every post, even when the content is based on complete ignorance of the subject?
Campbell Martin came with me to our local to meet BMCUW as my pal not as a fellow political blogger, and he does know BMCUW’s family well.
Regarding the table of No allies this was a bit tongue in the cheek, but nevertheless it is an accurate representation of the No voters.
Maybe sarcasm is indeed the lowest form of wit.
I will return to the subject of abuse and I would ask, if you ever have the time to scroll back, you will see on a number of occasions that the abuse towards myself has been concerted, so much so, that some No voters leapt to my defence. As I mentioned yesterday I have never seen such yobbish behaviour from Yes voters.
I don’t want to fall out with anyone and I would put cash on it that every single person that has voiced their concerns on Independence are really nice folk. My biggest problem is and I acknowledge it is that I cannot understand, for the life of me, how a Scot doesn’t want to be Independent.
I can’t help feeling that your response came from the Claudio Gentile school – looking for all the world like a legitimate tackle while actually playing the man as the ball rolled on untouched.
Have a wee read at what you said – A helluva lot of personal criticism directed at me, but almost entirely devoid of relevant comment on the issue of Scottish Independence.
I hope my response maybe explains better that nothing is personal but that I am passionate in my determination to see an Independent Scotland.
I wish you all the best and keep the faith. We are all Tims together here.
DBBIA :-)
Sevco mobiles not on Orange?
livibhoy,
Getting away from the money thing, I liked your reference to Charlie Mulgrew and his ability to play Fellaini out of the game. Sure Charlie might not have pace and a maybe he has a few other weaknesses and we all probably had doubts in his first game at left-back at Inverness a few years back but whatever he lacks, he more than makes up for with his commitment and his love of the club, not to mention his fantastic header against the deadco, Charlie Mulgrew is my kind of Celtic player.
AR
I see the ole Bella Guttmann curse on Benfica is holding firm.
Only another 48 years remaining.
GCT-Will you become East Coast Tom?
Gct,
If you are living in embra and using mobile tinternet try and get one of the 4G packages
Very fast.