Morals and hypocrisy, McCoist nails it, then asks you to bend over

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Do you remember the early days of Celtic Quick News when one wit suggested this was a blog for accountants?  Our early years did a great deal to bring a wider understanding of accounts and finance to Celtic fans – which was a good thing.

Today your fan of Scottish football needs to know about more than the game and amortisation, a semester or two in law school is an enormous advantage.  We touch on legal matters here but last night I enjoyed reading the forensic analysis on the wonderful Duff and Phelps on the Web 3D Law blog.  It’s worth 10 minutes of your day, each day, the most recent blog especially.  I also assume you are all keeping an eye on the substantial thoughts on Paul McConville’s blog.  If not, I want to know why.

So much for accounts and the law, today I want to discuss philosophy with you.

When football-types talk about morality and hypocrisy they are usually worth listening to, if only for comedic value.  Anyone experiencing the Scottish media will not doubt that morality is subjective and chameleon in nature.  This question has exercised great minds for centuries, if only they had the benefit of our effervescent radio luminaries.
Despite being metaphorically surrounded by morally opportunistic hypocrites, Ally McCoist felt so secure in his demands for Rangers that he didn’t dodge the issue yesterday.

When asked if Rangers should be kicked out of the SPL he accepted it “might be the right thing to do morally and people will have their own opinions on it, with differences far and varied.

“There’s an argument the right thing to do is for Rangers to go down to the Third Division and that might be the case if it’s a Newco after liquidation.

“But is it the correct thing to do for Scottish football?  Probably not. Everybody’s got a dilemma and that’s why there are so many opinions on it.

“Whether people like it or not, Rangers and Celtic are different because of the size and magnitude of the two clubs.

“Supporters of other clubs and some Old Firm supporters say you can’t have rules for some clubs and not for others.

“In an ideal world, that would be 100 per cent correct. I would absolutely and totally agree with that.

“But the fact of the matter is we’re asking if it would be good for the rest of the SPL if Rangers went down to the Third Division? The answer has to be no.

“I don’t envy the people who have to make that decision. I can understand the hypocrisy of it but Rangers and Celtic are different.”

Rangers are different – no dispute about that, Ally.  Celtic are different again, but if it is hypocritical and morally wrong to provide support for these clubs which has never been extended to a smaller club, we cannot subvert our sport – and remember, the word SPORT implies that outcomes are determined on a level playing field – Rangers must be treated no differently than Gretna.

And just one correction for Ally: liquidation-and-phoenix would not see Rangers drop to the Third Division.  A Newco in the Third Division would not have dropped from anywhere, it would be a new company and new football team.  Rangers would, in these circumstances, go pop!

One* team in Glasgow,
There’s only one team in Glasgow.
One team in Glasgow,
There’s only one team in Glasgow.

*excluding, juniors, youths, lower leagues, amateurs and Celtic Ladies.

Pop!  And they’re gone!

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  1. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    PADDY GALLAGHER 1949

     

     

    I suspect Jock may have had something to do with it.

     

     

    IMO,he believed in not letting the b……s grind you down,and in not cutting off your nose to spite your face.

     

     

    Possibly the only times he didn’t defend and promote his players. I expect he knew the vitriol that would follow if a player decided not to play for Scotland.

     

     

    Sadly,Steve Murray and George Connelly bear witness.

  2. Just logged in for a short time.Please be carefull tomorrow,they will be looking for trouble big time .Stick together ,be safe.HH.

  3. Good even CQN.

     

    Pointed and timely post Paul.

     

    Sadly I have not been surprised at the reaction of McCoist and his slabbering sycophants in the Scottish press.

     

    The only criticism I have seen anywhere was the Glenn Gibbons article today in the Scotsman. Excuses on pressure have been floated as trial balloons to gloss over McCoist’s balatant mischief making.

     

    However, I did want to be positive about this weekend. After all:

     

    Today the huns marched to Queens’ Park practising for the Saturday walk they will have to take next season.

     

    Today when I checked we were CHAMPIONS and Rangers were sinking.

     

    But best of all today is my birthday and I am spending it with my kids and grand kids. I now qualify for Medicare coverage.

     

    Thoughts and prayers are for Pablo though. Enjoy the game tomorrow music man, Beatles fan.

     

    ‘GG No longer 64.

  4. Paddy Gallagher on

    Thousands of Rangers fans at Hampden??

     

    Was there a viewing for rentaground.com ??

  5. I look at those fantastic clips of the Thai Tims and I think of the many fine gestures to help young Vanessa, Niamh and others and then I look at what we have on the other side of the city and I thank God I am on the right side.

  6. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Kano 1000 on

    Sorry I should have added that some on Twitter are taking the Niamh Curry Pledge by agreeing to donate £10 for every goal we score against the Gers tomorrow.

     

     

    If you are really rich and like an unknown punt for charity, you can pledge £10 for each and every employee at Ibrox who is ultimately shown to have been paid through the EBT scheme ;-)

     

     

    http://www.justgiving.com/NiamhsNextStep

  7. blantyretim on 28 April, 2012 at 20:00 said:

     

    VP

     

    I’m telling vmhan you are picking on me…. 8-))

     

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    Whits that wee Lancashire hotpot gonnae

     

    dae?…………text me at 6am………sorry BT.

  8. apologies for spelling on prior post.

     

    I got a new keyboard for my iPad and I’m not quite used to it.

  9. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    VOGUEPUNTER

     

     

    Yer wee pastiche wi BADA BING yesterday about your respective occupations was classic.

     

     

    Thanks.

     

     

     

    Cost me half-a-tin-a Pledge to clean the coffee table,mind.

     

     

    Worth it…………..

  10. pigalle, some pages ago…

     

     

    I posted late last night that I’d love the score tomorrow to be 5-2. The symmetry of our first and their last game both ending in a 5-2 win for the good guys would be so beautiful that I might weep.

     

     

    I would settle for a 7-1. Or a 1-0, an og from thug mcculloch.

     

     

    Iwudluvit if Neil was still registered as a player, then we could bring him on for the last 5 mins.

     

     

    Very low-key build up to the footballing game, but I’m in the mood now. Lets do these ba

  11. Is Hampden park not private property?

     

    Why did they let the jaikey’s spout crap

     

    from grounds?

  12. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO and HOGAN 2001

     

     

    Star.

     

     

    Thank you.

     

     

    I’ll e-mail it to my laptop first so that I can check it!

     

     

    For a supposedly intelligent fella,I can be a bit of a Terry,erm,Halfwit at times.

  13. jock steins celtic on

    voguepunter – the usual kid gloves when it comes Rangers. I don’t see how the march itself was legal. you can contrast with how they would have treated Celtic fans.

  14. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 28 April, 2012 at 20:07

     

     

    I was serious,if the the freak wisnae

     

    so large, I would take him down a peg or two,my taxes paying for his life of luxury.

     

    Plus his cot ,made to measure (double

     

    money)

     

    Did you see I got a 9-1 winner in naps BTW

     

     

    Hail hail :O)

  15. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    GG

     

     

    Does the missus still love you now she disnae have a stuoid song ringing in her ears?

     

     

    Congrats on your birthday,I hope your retirement is like that of THE EXILED TIM

     

     

    HUN-FREE………

  16. I have 2 adult tickets that cost £42 each for tomorrow’s game.

     

    They have excellent views from the Jock Stein upper.

     

    The highest bidder can have them.

     

    The proceeds will go to Naimh .

     

    I will meet the winner in Glasgow tomorrow to exchange the tickets to the winning bidder.

     

    The highest bid at 9.30 am tomorrow morning can have the tickets.

     

    These tickets were donated by Mr & Mrs James Wilson from Buckhaven in Fife.

     

    TT

  17. jock steins celtic on 28 April, 2012 at 20:11

     

     

    Get a grip mhan ,it’s their country:O)

     

     

    Kind of love the story of Ruglen polis

     

    starting up, to control the Irish navvies

     

    building the railway.

     

    Hope they gave the masonic B’s

     

    a good seeing to.

     

     

    Masonic B’s = polis

     

    apologies to Kingoh/McTall

  18. rimtimtim

     

    Great stuff with the Gerry Rafferty post.

     

    The intro to the song you posted was an old fave of mine “Her Father Didn’t Like Me Anyway”

     

    If you listen closely to some of Gerry’s songs there a number of tunes/references to things he may have picked up on his jouney through life.

     

    EG The intro to Mary Skeffington (his Mother iirc) is the music to Sweet Sacrament Devine and references to Star of the Sea in another song.

     

    One of THE great Scottish talents imo.

     

    With the great John Byrne (Patrick) doing his album covers,what could go wrong?

  19. GG Happy birthday hope it runs right through till Monday.

     

    TinyTim. Massive respect what a great gesture.

     

     

    HH

  20. tarrant on 28 April, 2012 at 20:07 said:

     

     

    Indeed, 5-2 has a wonderful almost Karmic symmetry.

     

     

    As would be 3-0 too :0)

     

     

    However I’ll settle for the 7-1, 5-1, 6-2 whatever as we

     

    bid our not so fond farewell to The Mighty Glasgow Rioters.

     

     

    Loved your idea about bringing Neil Lennon on BTW.

     

     

    Tomorrow should be a GIRFUY day.

     

     

    They deserve no less.

     

     

    pigalle

  21. Are any CQNers going to the Norwich game? Palacio junior putting me under pressure to go down as he has a few days off around the 22nd during his exams.

     

    Seen a few Travelodges/ Premier Inns around £40 a night around 3 miles away from the ground.

     

     

    HH

  22. SmashingMilkBottles on

    A wee update on race night last night. We managed to raise £2115 on the night and with donations online from some good CQN’ers the total is approaching £3500.

     

     

    Thanks again ghuys!!

     

     

    H H

     

     

    OTIG

  23. RalphWaldoEllison-is Neil Lennon Season 2011-12 on

    Just back from a charity walk for ALS in Charlotte.

     

     

    ALS is the disease that claimed Jimmy Johnstone and John Cushley.

     

     

    Our wee team raised over $2,000 for care and support for local sufferers.

     

     

    HH to all the thousands who turned out and walked to fight ALS.

  24. TT

     

     

    I’ve just had a text from someone who has been let down for a ticket for tomorrow.

     

     

    It would only be for one of them and I think they’d only be able to pay the face value mate but if there’s no better offers then I’d take it mate.

  25. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    VOGUEPUNTER

     

     

    If that was TIDAL BAY,congratulations.

     

     

    I decided earlier in the week to not back my nap,which worked well for me early doors.

     

     

    My mate’s workpals get a wee suggestion now and again from me,I backed it at 14-1

     

     

    Didnae expect the ground to be THAT bad for a top weight though,some display.

     

     

    Some difference wi the change of trainer too……..

     

     

    Well done,bud.

     

     

    Looks like the title is yours.

     

     

    I blame TANGERINE TREES

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