Remember Henri Camara? Martin O’Neill paid a significant loan fee to sign him 10 years ago, in the considerable wake of Henrik Larsson. Henri flopped and soon lost his place in the team but the weight of responsibility thrust upon his frame was considerable. No one could come close to filling the gap left in the Celtic team.
Nadir Ciftci would do well to consider whose shoes he’s stepping into at Celtic. Last summer’s striker signings, John Guidetti and Stefan Scepovic could hardly muster a start the second half of the season. Leigh Griffiths, who arrived 18 months ago, got the striker’s gig most weeks, but Leigh came to Celtic with as illustrious a heritage as Nadir.
Never step into a great man’s shoes, but Nadir’s not doing that. This is the perfect time for a striker to join Celtic, I hope he has the appetite.
I see the great and the good in the media are flogging lyrical at the prospect of a prodigy arriving from Madrid. None of this has come from Celtic. The player may become available at some point but I reckon it remains a hard task convincing Real his immediate future should lie in Glasgow.
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jamesgang………still hingin on…….as my last beer dribbles away…………
The SNP have NEVER done ANYTHING – they will NEVER do ANYTHING – they are a bunch of ONE-ISSUE AMATEURS – who brainwashed and bribed a load of poll tax dodgers out of their boltholes to vote – now the SNP’s favoured government the Tories,will be squeezing them till the ‘pips squeak’ – he’ll mend them for being so stupid enough to vote SNP – Osborne even upstaged them with Corporations Tax cuts, the ONLY policy in their THICK WHITE PAPER.
The hardest shots in English football 1990s
Was told Johnny Condom was the best keeper against these
Apparently he hasn’t let one in since they strengthened him….
1) David Hirst – 114mph (for Sheffield Wednesday @ Arsenal on September 16 1996)
2) David Beckham – 97.9mph (for Man Utd v Chelsea on February 22 1997)
3) David Trezeguet – 96mph (for Monaco @ Man Utd on March 19 1998)
4) Richie Humphreys – 95.9mph (for Sheffield Wednesday v Aston Villa on August 17 1996)
5) Matt Le Tissier – 86.8mph (for Southampton v Newcastle on January 18 1997)
6) Alan Shearer – 85.8mph (for Newcastle v Leicester on February 2 1997)
7) Roberto Carlos – 85.2mph (for Brazil v France on June 3 1997)
8) Tugay – 84.2mph (for Blackburn @ Southampton on November 3 2001)
9) Obafemi Martins – 84mph (for Newcastle @ Tottenham on January 14 2007)
10) David Beckham – 80.5mph (for Man Utd @ Derby on September 4 1996)
james gang
It’s alright.
As long as there is SNP triumphalism about the Tories being Tories and statements that it is Labour’s fault that it is so, I will retaliate.
Poverty is too big an international issue to play National politics with it. German working people did not make Greek working people poor.
Anyway, as you can see from recent posts, many did not even get the points I was making.
I am off to bed now. But as a people (and I don’t mean Scots alone) we have a bit of waking up to do.
Good night Alfie thompsontwin Noakes
Good night Timdom
For those who are in love ….. for those who are oppressed……
Let the people sing……
HH jamesgang
Thompson Twin
Don’t even bother making any association with what I just said!
You are on your own with your own peculiar focus.
Goodnight!
Night sftb
As I said to you before, all my family voted No. Good people.
As I love them so I embrace you my fellow Tim
HH jamesgang
TT ..
At least SFTB shows respect and is respected on here ..
You’re just a bam pot ..
Wake up and smell the beans ?
CharlienicCSC
Over and out! :)
Not political at all…BUT
The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money?
Hail Hail
rudicantfail
00:33 on 9 July, 2015
Not political at all…BUT
The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money?
Hail Hail
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While the beauty of capitalism is that you never run out of other people’s money?
HH jamesgang
sftb
You repeated, as in others before, an allegation, published in the Telegraph, for which the PCC has ruled in Nicola Sturgeon’s favour. The leak itself came from the Secretary of State for Scotland, Alistair Carmichael, the Lib Dems only MP in Scotland, an act which could lead to a re-election in his constituency. As has been pointed out on here, the only politician who stated he would prefer a Tory government, Ed Milliband, is now heading for the dustbin of history.
jamesgang
00:35 on 9 July, 2015
rudicantfail
00:33 on 9 July, 2015
Not political at all…BUT
The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money?
Hail Hail
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While the beauty of capitalism is that you never run out of other people’s money?
HH jamesgang
Moot point?
I understand your position…
Can’t understand why everyone thinks everyone in the Celtic support is politicised though…
Politicians are a horrible breed
Canamalar
14:44 on
8 July, 2015
BMCUW/Auldheid,
Like all these good ideas the initial investment is the prohibitive factor, setting it up and paying for the technology and infrastructure required, even renting those facilities would be extremely expensive. Is suspect you’d need a fair bit more that 250,000 at £100 a season to make it worth while. And obviously the better the product you’d want to sell the higher the cost of production.
Now 250,000 at £200 a season would I expect be the minimum required to make a go of it however I don’t see 250,000 being interested in paying that.
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Capital outlay is a huge factor. I got some figures on set up costs from someone in the industry and whilst they are not at hand they dwarfed an estimate of £2M I had made a stab at by a factor of 8.5.
So we are talking 250,000 paying £200 to watch Celtic. I don’t know if there is that number of supporters world wide but if we had 125000 paying annually £200 that would bring in £25M.
But what if that was the PTW (Price to Watch) and included in that price was the ability to watch on line or attend in person and all that was needed to attend was to go online and reserve a seat or block of seats if attending with family or friends with a PTW subscription in any period before home games?
Assuming the current sale of 40,000 STs at £500 average, plus 5000 CTV subscribers at £100 on average plus £1.5M from Sky that brings in £22M.
On that basis (and it is the 64M $ question) would we sell 125,000 PTW tickets a year at £200 especially if the subs could be paid monthly?
The fewer the subscribers the higher the cost but spread over 12 months I think that a cost in the £200 to £300 range pa is one that would be attractive to sufficient supporters to make it feasible.
The SNP is a cult -nothing more and nothing less. It has never been remotely left wing. Salmond is a dyed in the wool Laffer’s curve free market Thatcherite. Sturgeon is the product of some of the best marketing seen this side of the Atlantic. Watch out for the privatisation ofCalMac-an acid test if ever there was one.
Please can any of you clever people out there in cyber land help me.
I work and live in England . In the past I’ve noticed things in our work that fire doors which used to be coloured green and other parts of machinery that where coloured green have esp during shutdown etc have been painted blue or other colours.
I have asked my shop Steward about it, but he just laughs and says its Blackburn rovers colours.
I have recently noticed that on our programme of orders that there is a certain seqiuience of orders that’
Goes F. T,P. This is I find offensive to me and to what it means.
I was thinking of asking my plant manager of my complaint , but I was wandering if someone could help me to put it into a way that I could get it across intelligently .
By the way the guy who painted the fire exit door?
Supports the others .
This has been going on for years and I’ve come up against a brick wall . But I want to push it now as I think there is a subliminal message being put out here.
We used to be called ICI, and I also know that there is a strong Masonic influence in the management if not the boardroom and it continues to this day.
Please help as it frustrates the life out of me , but this latest decision on the programme of FTP really gets to me.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Sorry for the long winded post.
HAIL HAIL.
rudicantfail…
I can see where you come from on socialism.
What is your opinion on Toryism?
rudicantfail
You do not seem to understand the modern concept of money. It is something you invent, and then lend to others.
“The SNP is a cult”
I don’t post much but FFS??
Auldheid…..
Even Bangkok EPL fans can watch their teams for free….Chelski,ManUre,Liverplop,etc…..as long as they buy the shirts!!
It is so difficult to sell Celtic abroad these days as our market shrinks….
I wish you well mate …Good Luck
Sipsini.
My position on Toryism is the same as Labourism and the same as SNPism mate….
They’re All the Same!!
rudicantfail…
As was highlighted by Paul 67 only recently, the time for the major companies is coming to an end, unless they can close the doors of the new market.
Here’s hoping they don’t and allow the corrupt regime that is killing the game to disappear and let football breathe again.
rangerssupportersloyal.wordpress.com/2015/07/03/rsl…
Not sure if this has been posted already, but the penny is has surely dropped.
Celtic Mac…..
I do understand the concept of money
Believe me…..
I don’t like it …..but I do understand….I even comprehend it!!
https://rangerssupportersloyal.wordpress.com/
It could have been written by Phil.
Sipsini…
We can agree to disagree Mo Chara
Nothing is further from the truth,in my mind,regarding ‘major’ companies….
I contract some work for some of them, and as I get older I instinctively think I know how they think sometimes.
Maybe not but Hail Hail anyway
rudicantfail
01:06 on
9 July, 2015
Sipsini.
My position on Toryism is the same as Labourism and the same as SNPism mate….
They’re All the Same!!
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Hard to disagree with this. We live in an age when politicians issue statements via social media all worded the same and containing the same spelling mistakes. What’s the point of this kind of “democracy”. It’s simply centrally-controlled propaganda. They’re all shit-scared to express a genuine opinion in case they lose their income.
There`s only one point.
did socialism/communism/left wing politics work?
Give us a list.
Where does capitalism work.
rudicantfail…
How you can compare other parties to the Tories is beyond me!
I might not be happy in the way the Labour party is being run at the moment, after watching the budget today, I felt sick in their smugness.
It was truly shocking watching them gloat on the money they will earn due to the new policies that are going to be put upon us. HH
‘John James’ is Malcolm Murray…..or whoever he is feeding the information to.
Drop into Boisdale Steakhouse just off Liverpool Street Station in London…..pretend you have no idea who they are….and listen…..hahaha
There`s only one point.
In which countries did socialism/communism work?
Das Kapital? Which year was it written?
Approx 130 years of attempts to make it work.
Give us a list of the countries.
Will the penny ever drop?
WE’RE DOOMED I TELL YE DOOMED. NAE POINT IN SAYING GOODNIGHT. But I will. Night night.
Weefra HH praying to Wee Oscar.
natknow…
They, the wolves in their sharp suits are probably all cut from the same cloth now.
I still think the tories have sharper swords when it comes to the slicing up of the people in need.
Sipsini….
Don’t worry about politicians mate….
Anything you have done or will ever do in your life is despite of them…..not because of them!!
sipsini
01:31 on
9 July, 2015
natknow…
They, the wolves in their sharp suits are probably all cut from the same cloth now.
I still think the tories have sharper swords when it comes to the slicing up of the people in need.
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No doubt they are. Politics used to be about debate, dissent and argument, but like many areas of life it has now succumbed to the hegemony of management culture. Every utterance is approved centrally before it is issued by MPs/MSPs etc. The opinions expressed are not their own – they need to be on-message or they lose their jobs. You can see this when someone makes the mistake of uttering a genuine opinion.
This applies to all parties/ politicians BTW – including those just elected.
Off to bed …,
One thing that ripped ma knitting!!
Living in Glasgow. Cannae remember….late 80s / early 90s
Sitting target for the poll tax/ council tax
Wife,weans,mortgage….nae getting away fae it!!
Had to pay it…..Swinger Sheridan didnae…..never had a proper income in his life anyway!!
Hope the ones who didn’t pay taxes are understanding of Sevco?
Naw?
Ok then….,
weeron
15:29 on
8 July, 2015
Good discussion this morning……
AULDHEID,
the Swiss Rambler is indeed a good read. It certainly highlights the disparity in TV money.
I think that the day will come when UEFA come to terms with the following:
1. It makes no sense to have ‘Big Clubs in Wee Countries’, heretofore to be known as BCWC….:) .willfully removed from the big football table. Especially in light of:
2. The increasingly boring repetitiveness of the UCL. Yes, there are some great names, but unless you are watching your own team, the seeding process renders many group stage games as meaningless.
3. One has to believe that football’s current set up (forcing clubs to play only within their national associations – and in UEFA sponsored tournaments) would not stand the test of a European court. They would rule for the clubs as they have done for the players.
I believe that this view may well have been discussed among major Dutch, Portuguese – and perhaps even a Scottish club. They may be clinging to the hope that thus can be done within the UEFA family, and that UEFA will move to a European league.
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I’m hopeful that the negative effect the CL has on so many clubs and on the competition itself will lead to a full European Wide League Set up withy Regional National Leagues in a pyramid arrangement.
Who knows. But in the meantime we are condemned to scrap for what we can.
So, within the financial straight jacket that we find ourselves in – there is one gamble that is worth taking. That is, getting into the Group stages. The path is clear. The pay off is quantifiable with great certainty. I really don’t understand why we don’t take more aggressive steps to qualify.
On most matters, I consider myself more cautious than most posters on here. However, this is one bet that is worth taking. Not for 20 million pounds of course. But an extra 5 million spent to try and qualify would be a decent bet. If it is one good player, we either qualify or not. If we don’t, we still have that player. If we fail again the next season, the money could be recouped by selling that player, or someone else.
I just don’t understand the mentality that says we might try and acquire a player or two IF we qualify.
Anyway, enough rambling. Back to real life.
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The difficulty is the level of wages that finished article players of CL qualification quality will expect. I’ve made up a back of a packet spreadsheet that tells me:
If wages are around £40K over a year that is £2.08M or £6M plus over a 3 year contract. Add in the £5M that is needed to buy such a player for he is unlikely to be brought in on a Bosman .
Over 3 years that costs £11.2M so we stand to make good money (£33M) if we qualify every season that player is with us at £15M being earned from the CL.
If only two seasons that falls to £18M and £3M if only one season and we lose £11m if we don’t qualify over 3 years..
If one player is not enough (he may get injured in his first game and his power decline over 3) the obvious thing to do is sign 2.
That reduces profit from £33M to £22M over 3 successful years, makes us £7.5M over 2 seasons and we lose £7.4M if only one season in the CL.
Three players brings in £11.2M profit over three successful seasons but we lose £3M if only two successful seasons and lose £18M if only one successful season and God forbid £33M if the players are not enough to help CL qualification over three years.
Now I am not saying we should not invest in better quality players but I think it will need more than one to actually reduce the risk of not qualifying but that also reduces the profit over three years and needs two years of qualification out of three to avoid loss.
These are back of the fag packet calculations but I think they demonstrate where the risk lies and do not take into account the inflationary impact on the wage structure at Celtic which would reduce profit and increase losses, or the costs of staging and playing in those games apart from player wages. Nor does it take into account the quality of player £5M and £40k a week actually brings.
In two words. “Its complicated”
Auldheid…
I’m hopeful that the negative effect the CL has on so many clubs and on the competition itself will lead to a full European Wide League Set up withy Regional National Leagues in a pyramid arrangement.
Auldheid ….
Withy?
Pyramids?
I think ….,Moonbeams