When Tony Mowbray was in charge of Celtic the club wrote to the SFA regarding the standard of refereeing in Scotland almost on a weekly basis. The outcome of this correspondence was not constructive, if anything, some at the Association hardened their stance.
A lot has subsequently happened.
Yesterday’s Sunday Mail referred back to Celtic’s dialogue with the SFA during Mowbray’s tenure, which I found interesting. Soon after, when a referee was found to have lied to Neil Lennon (and his supervisor), the association were vulnerable. Wounds opened at that time which have not healed.
The ‘paper suggested Peter Lawwell is “Driven, obsessively controlling, politically statute, manipulative. A master of the dark arts. There’s nothing he won’t do to get Celtic what they want. No-one he won’t attempt to control to get it”.
Quite a character assassination. I wonder what they’re worried about?
We are also told that our chief exec has “An over-arching influence on every facet of the Scottish game. He could have had a crack at sorting it for everyone. But no. That wouldn’t have sold any season tickets, would it?”
Those of you who bought a season ticket on the back of Peter Lawwell’s letter must feel the club went to extraordinary lengths to win your business. The article shared the fantasy many football fans have that Peter Lawwell being on the SFA board means Peter Lawwell controls the SFA. He doesn’t, but he is a formidable advocate of reform.
So what are they worried about? From my perspective, pretty much everything. The old ways were liquidated, we’re living in times with only one Super Power. The old ways are gone and they are never coming back.
Calls for Peter Lawwell to resign from the SFA board because he “wouldn’t recognise the greater good” are laughable. Those who interpret subtext will know this reads ‘Lawwell is an animated asker of difficult questions’.
What started five years ago with DVDs arriving at Hampden showing Robbie Keane yards onside has gotten a whole lot more serious, and personal, judging by the sustained attack on our CEO. If you think this is about Celtic writing a letter about a referee decision a week ago you couldn’t be further from the truth.
Never try to manipulate a master of the dark arts.
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What exactly have Celtic PLC done to protect Celtic FC from the SFA since Anno Zombini ?
What exactly have Celtic PLC done to protect celtic supporters like wise?
What have they done to build a European class team?
To me it’s all about Old Firm
ANDY NEWPORT The Scotsman
00:00Tuesday 28 April 2015
CELTIC striker John Guidetti will discover on Thursday if he is to be punished for singing an allegedly “offensive” song about the demise of Rangers.
The on-loan Manchester City player had been due to appear before the Scottish Football Association’s disciplinary panel on 9 April but that hearing was postponed.
The SFA has confirmed the 22-year-old’s case will now be heard this Thursday.
Guidetti was issued with a notice of complaint last month after giving an interview to Dutch TV show FC Rijnmond.
In it, he repeats a chant sung about him by the Celtic support: “Oh John Guidetti, puts the ball in the net-y, he’s a Super Swede and the huns are deid, walking in Guidetti wonderland.”
Rangers fans claim the term “hun” is a sectarian slur – although supporters of other clubs insist it has no religious connotations.
SFA compliance officer Tony McGlennan accused the Swede of breaching a disciplinary rule.
It is not clear if Guidetti will appear before the Hampden panel but Celtic have already backed the player.
In a statement issued last month, a spokesman for the Parkhead outfit said: “We are very surprised and disappointed that this has even found its way to an SFA judicial panel. John Guidetti will be defending this charge.”
I wonder what time FIFA’s Jim Boyce is scheduled to intervene.
Auldheid
22:13 on 27 April, 2015
Latchford
What alternative do you have?
Are you suggesting Lawwell and SFA are in cahoots?
I’m having trouble with that idea.
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Auldheid – Maybe it’s about time that you and yer rebel-band-of-bampots(aye right)…recruited – Simple Simon and Steve Naive to bolster the ranks.
Yer surely havin a laugh…surely?
PL couldny wait, he was straining at the leash to…jump into bed wi the hun-establishment at the Govt-Summit for the – ‘Shame Game’ were Celtic had 3 players booked….ah mean, wtf did he even go to that summit for?
One catholic in a room with 20-odd masonic-Celtic-hating-bassas and he thought that Neil Lennon’s Celtic were going to get a – fair-crack-of-the-whip???? – ah mean, PL and his ‘bored’ of directors walked away from the aftermath of the Govt-Summit and, Celtic’s ‘placid’ fans didny land a glove on them?????….and, ye think that a long-drawn-oot-resolution will bring ‘Justice’ for Celtic in some shape or form????
Anybody who believes this p#sh deserves awe that is coming doon the track to bite them in the erse….AGAIN!
Ah mean, Rangers FC…shafted anybody who couldny get oot their way for the sum of – £140 million, BDO have done a bunk coz of the civil-unrest-threat-from-hun-animals…ye could also, include the £60 million that they stole from Celtic in CL-money when the ‘same’ Celtic hierarchy….looked the other way….ye couldny make this stuff up.
PL and Paul McBride QC(RIP) served up the Celtic supporters especially, the Green Brigade on the alter of – even-up-the-sectarian-crime-bill – ina secret-deal behind closed doors or, in the background whilst…in public…they were making out that they were fighting Neil Lennons corner.
Auldheid….the Celtic Board / PL….are…imho…worse, much worse than the hun-establishment coz…they piss on the Celtic support from ‘inside’ their own tent.
See when ah was a wee bhoy….ma Granny said tae me…”Kevin son…see when yer older and more, worldy-wise…promise me that, you’ll never trust a man with ‘snake-eyes’…ok.”
Every time I see Ian Bankier….I always remember ma Granny’s wee cosy-chats.
Mary Callaghan – CSC
…….oot.
Serious question:
If MASH’s only interest in Sevco is making money and he has pretty much shored up all the revenue streams, what incentive is there for him to continue keeping the mutant son of RFCil alive when they have no more money to give him?
What is the point in having a contract which says “pay me X thousand per month” when there is no X left to give?
Surely at that point the only revenue stream open to you is to cash in on the assets.
Nice to see some good news this morning from that earthquake in Nepal, young Celtic supporter Archie Rainey 18 years old standing at the bottom of Everest with his Celtic scarf held in the never walk alone style, what a sad and terrible disaster so many lost souls, makes you stop to think.
Hi Paul67,
As you predicted, there are those who seem to have PL in their sights, and are now gunning for him.
Rangers with their “Scottish Institution” status, spendthrift fuelled success and placemen throughout the hierarchy of Scottish football – their dominance in Scotland was unquestionable.
Now of course after liquidation…
BTW: Congratulations to lowly Bournemouth, heard on the radio – it was a great achievement despite recently being on the cusp of liquidation three times.
The English are so yesterday, don’t they understand liquidation is the new resurrection.
…anyway the Ibrox newbie wants it’s birthright. With their flowing funds damned and their Institution status marred, it’s only the placemen that can stem the new world order in Scottish football. Seems they are intent on doing just that.
Hope PL can assist to bring in real change. An accountable, professional SFA is what we need.
Scottish Football needs a strong Aberdeen.
Hail Hail
The penny seems to be dropping with other Clubs that, like Celtic, they need to challenge the SFA when necessary ……..
In Celtic’s case the SFA have done nothing about the ‘behaviour’ of referees towards our Club for DECADES…..
in respect of other Clubs, the example is being reported today that Motherwell are challenging being unable to allow their SB holders free entry to the play-offs
Seems straightforward enough that the SB affords entry to all league games …. what is it the SFA are not understanding….
Have to agree with BRT&H…
The don’t use the word Hun, although I have posted a few times in the last couple of weeks what a nonsense the Guidetti “offensive” charge is and I’m still 100% of that view.
It is an oft misunderstood and misaligned term as
Kitalba @ 06:21
&
Janesgang @ 06:28
Explanations’ ably demonstrate.
Posted a few years ago about a friend of mine from Dumbarton who is Celtic daft. He’s from a big family all bar him were Rangers supporters.
He regards himself as a Hun – have told him on many occasion you can’t be a Celtic supporter and a Hun. But when your sixty, often you know what you know.
Just-a-thot
Morning all.
Very very changeable down here at the moment. Currently, the big yellow thing is out and shining but the wind is howling and is bitterly cold. A couple of minutes ago, the rain was lashing down. Snow later????
chairbhoy
08:02 on 28 April, 2015
Because his the CEO of Glasgow Celtic, it goes with the job that ‘THEY’ will go for him at EVERY opportunity……
what is disappointing to me, and must be to him, is the number of Celtic Supporters on CQN who seem to take every opportunity to go for him ……..not many, granted, but still disappointing ……..we need to stick together, to challenge the anti-Celtic agenda
……and…..I know it’s not easy when our Club persist on missing out ‘THE’, and seem to want to see the hate-filled orcs back ……….fortunately there is no way back for them, (which mayo be why Celtic are avoiding the hassle ……not a good strategy IMO)
Ashley wants Ibrox and to maintain his vice like grip on one half of the old firm. DD must be in awe of Ashley’s tactics and ability to suck out the cash.
A financially hampered Sevco …cake and eat it
Mags,
disagree it is all about the money and we sit at the back of the bus until an escape route lands on our laps..as we have no influence anywhere and any mention of Brian Quinn and FFP should induce hysterics ..humour or tantrums it is scheiss egal. until then it is OldFirm. No apologies saught after, no retribution, dont even bother with the cosmetic LNS fine that would blow the supremist and second class citizen model needed to maintain the current model to bits. Hence the dignified Silence and the 5 way agreement
Beads for the indians
HH
67 heaven
Not sure if the M/well example is a great challenge to the SFA or just backing up the The Rangers request to do the same thing from 48 hours ago.
Whilst the principle of letting SB holders in for free to play-off matches is a sound one, it was a sound one when the SPFL clubs drafted the existing rule which forbids it. The time to make a principled challenge is when you are disinterested in the outcome and it is just a point of principle.
When you make the point just as you realise that you are going to be affected by the rule you approved, it is just a variant of NIMBYism.
CHAIRBHOY
“With their flowing funds damned”
At first I thought you’d got that wrong. But on second thoughts…
For anybody that missed the night shift link, I will bump this again
Ronny Deila sub-titled lecture
Wonder if RD ever tries to explain Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs to Leigh Griffiths and where Tunnock’s teacakes exist in this hierarchy.
Chairbhoy @ 8.10.
‘ It is an oft misunderstood and misaligned term….’
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So perhaps hunnism – like beauty – is in the eye of the beholder!
HH jamesgang
67HEAVEN
SETTINGFREETHEBEARS
Motherwell and Rangers are two clubs who should be relishing the income from the play-offs,regardless of the percentage they are allowed to keep.
They’re potless.
Hibs and QOS are at least financially stable.
IMO,if the rules stated that season-tickets had to be honoured for play-off matches,the former two would be kicking up about the loss of income.
This Ronny lecture is well worth s watch and will give you far more insight into the man than any tabloid caricature
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jXCgwKAH1Uw
RWE
Apologies for not replying last night but I had an early night and I’ve been in work since early O’clock! :-)
The fact that there were no Motherwell fans in the vicinity is indeed significant. The law says that the behaviour should be ‘deemed’ offensive. If there were no Motherwell fans to hear the chant, who exactly was being offended?
Yes in the past this may have been a simple case of a Breach of the Peace and in my opinion that should still be the case. Why is there a need to label it as something different simply because the perpetrator was a football supporter?
Hello again all you young rebels.
Despite the scepticism of some people i think there is without
doubt a concerted campaign ongoing against Celtic and Peter
Lawell,in all my years following our club iv’e never known such
an amount of vitriol which has been directed towards us, in my
humble opinion it’s down to the stickies p.r dept. and the
parasites in the media who are connected to them through the
wanky handshake clubs to try and deflect attention away from
their momentous problems, but in saying all that i can’t for the
life of me understand why we don’t take them on and bury them.
On a brighter note watched the wee fella’s soccer on Sun. morn
his team getting hammered 8-0 and him going mental at his
defenders attempts to tackle, after giving them a tongue lashing
he won the ball midfield ran the length of the park and scored with
a screamer, cue his top coming off and him running back with the
hoops on fist pumping on the Celtic badge, never sparked a
comeback but it fair made me chuffed.
Him and his wee buddy were picked to walk out at Melbourne’s
M.C.G on the Sun afternoons big game between Melbourne Victory
and West Coast Mariners, big crowd and televised, i was winding
them up after it and i said.
” Well that will be you two Victory supporters now wearing their
colours today eh ”
the wee mhan said
” Nae chance Papa we hud the hoops oan underneath ”
You’ve got to love them.
H.H Mick
Milliband Balls.and quite a few more are the the problem within the Labour Party.they can’t put it across to the voter.in fact they are useless.I have voted mostly Labour in my lifetime. but not this time.the big mistake they made was the referendum on Independence for Scotland.they should have urged all there supporters to say Yes.but they went along with the English Tories.Liberal.Labour Politicians. For the no campaign. So in my opinion the labour party are finished in Scotland. and that is sad.SNP for me
67 Heaven – strictly speaking the play off games aren’t league games and if I recall correctly the t and c of our tickets explicitly state the number of games the ticket is eligible for.
Perhaps these clubs haven’t done that and are now unclear what they’re position is more than any real sense of fairness towards their fans.
setting free the bears for res. 12 & oscar knox
08:19 on 28 April, 2015
Good point …… Just read the headline….didn’t realise the orcs had complained also …… Not like them, eh….. Hahahaha ………(as you know, people only complain when something affects them directly ……. Human nature, and all that …… :)
weeminger
08:39 on 28 April, 2015
Another good point ……. Think I’ll stick to doing the crossword in this newspaper ….hahahaha
67Heaven @ 08:16,
That is true, the lack of togetherness and support for the Board is damaging. As Celtic CEO PL is starting from a position of weakness. If we’re going to reform Scottish football, the support from multiple Clubs is crucial. If we won’t support our own, we have no chane.
It’s a shame, because I really think there’s a golden opporchancity. Rangers and their all seeing friends have encourage the idea that the quintessential Ibrox Clubs are a symbol, a beacon for the great and the better.
If so, why can’t they raise the £30m it needs for real Rangersmen to have control of the Club, it’s assets and it’s income streams.
In today’s terms it’s not a huge amount of money and although it would have to be looked on as a loooonnnggggg term investment in that respect the ROI risk must be minimal.
So why no money? Maybe they are not as well “connected” as they like to think. Maybe their old ideals don’t appeal so much these days.
If so, and it looks like it to me, maybe the placemen and their assistance is the last hope. PL must win this battle.
BMCUW – :-)
Jamesgang @ 08:26,
“So perhaps hunnism – like beauty – is in the eye of the beholder!”
Perhaps it is in the eye of the beholder – beauty, not so much:-)
Hail Hail
murdoch’s curled-up winklepickers
08:26 on 28 April, 2015
That was my first thought when I was informed the orcs were complaining also …… but then, they don’t do logic, do they……. In fact, they don’t seem to do anything right ……..from appointing Sally, to appointing Ming …..back to the crossword….it’s what I do best ….!!!!!!!!
chairbhoy
08:44 on 28 April, 2015
EXACTLY ….. Brilliant post …..HH
TIMBHOY2
I’m sorry to hear that you have withdrawn your previous support for The Labour Party,but you have your reasons and I won’t attempt to disparage them.
IMO,Labour made two huge errors over the referendum. Firstly they should have declared it a conscience vote,and made no attempt to coerce voters to vote no,and secondly they should have seen the potential for a disastrous swing to SNP as a result of the campaign.
That swing has surprised me in its severity. At the time,I foresaw losing about a dozen seats max in the General Election,but getting a tanking next year at Holyrood. What is gonna happen is beyond belief less than a year ago.
Cast your vote whichever way with a clear conscience. No-one can ask for more.
Only watched the first ten minutes of the Ronny Deila lecture posted by SFTB @ 8:24 but will certainly watch it later. I imagine I will consider it compulsory viewing for all Celtic Supporters. I believe Ronny is a bit special.
JJ
Im sure big Shifty who plays for Dundee utd would be a good acquisition for Celtic.for him supposedly being a dirty player .I don’t by that.to me he will score a lot of goals for us .and he has pace.also I liked the look of Blair Spittal.he to would be a good signing.but I believe he has said he wouldn’t play for Celtic. So he must be a Sevco Fan.
Kevjungle
Had you like myself gone to a Celtic Trust meeting where the question was to attend an invite to contribute to the OB Bill discussion you would have seen the same dynamic discussed.
That is to attend and try and influence the debate or stay away because Celtic supporters had done nothing wrong so why should they go?
The starting position was not to attend but as the discussion flowed impassioned minds were changed by reason that it was best to attend to try and influence the debate.
Now many good points were raised but as we know minds were already made up and an unreasonable bit of legislation was passed.
The point is attend or not attend the result of what we can be up against will be the same.
The idea that Celtic not attending the summit would have changed anything is undermined by the very reasons for not attending the degree of bias at play.
Had we not done so is your argument that what emerged would be any different?
It might have been worse as by not attending those Fenian will have shown defiance to the world and by God needed put in place.
These matters are judgement calls.
Pick yer fights. No point going in to lose or come out worse.
jungle jim hot smoked
08:57 on 28 April, 2015
Only watched the first ten minutes of the Ronny Deila lecture posted by SFTB @ 8:24 but will certainly watch it later. I imagine I will consider it compulsory viewing for all Celtic Supporters. I believe Ronny is a bit special.
JJ
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Agree completely.
A real thinker of a football coach.
Hh JamesGang
petec
23:52 on 27 April, 2015
Bing bang.
The Madhouses Act 1774 made it an offence to keep “more than one Lunatick” without a licence for a madhouse. It has now been repealed.
With the SFA in mind – all I can say is…”Pity”.
SFTB,
Great post with the Ronny lecture. I hope everyone takes the 40 minutes to watch and listen as it is a great insight into the man and his values.
Wee Leigh, let him eat teacakes and he’ll score a couple of hat tricks!
Cannot see the MSM getting the better of our manager any time soon.
HH
EC67
timbhoy2
Worked with the boy Spittals Da, he is a good tim so unless his mother is from the darkside and is rabid I would think he would jump at the chance of pulling on the hoops .
67Heaven – Thanks,
Off oot noo.
JG – I grow strong, strong in the presence of hunnism.
Hail Hail