Patience, flag and Siri

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Nervous? Oh yes. Any one of a number of things can go wrong, up to and including a red card while conceding a penalty. Celtic will need to score three without reply before any of us relax tonight. It’s the kind of challenge which should be completed within 15 minutes but Brendan Rodgers is right to call for patience. Any rush to get the job done could produce fatal consequences.

18 years ago this week, in front of a packed and newly completed Celtic Park, Larsson, Lambert, Boyd, Rieper, Burley and co. faced an equally unfancied St Patrick’s Athletic but couldn’t put the ball in the net. And they guys knew a thing or two about playing the game. Football isn’t played on paper, sometimes you need reservoirs of patience to invest in this sport.

Remember to get along early to see the league title flag unfurled before kick-off. I know we’ve seen 11 of these events since 2001 but we should never take it for granted.

…………….and the game is on your season ticket.

Best wishes to Tony Watt, if he joins Hearts, and to Massimo Donati, who’s pitching his tent at Hamilton Accies this season. Both created great Champions League memories for us.

I know the Uefa response to Res 12 hasn’t been generally released but did Siri and Skybet get a copy as well as the SFA?

 

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  1. DAVIDOPOULOS on 20TH JULY 2016 1:57 PM

     

     

    We’re actually on Gumtree…

     

     

    Nothing wrong with shopping on Gumtree

  2. Here’s an alternative to what Celtic are proposing to do. Employ people on a standard part-time (or full time contract). Tell them after two weeks their position is now redundant. Last in first out. No notice required.

     

     

    Would that be better?

  3. FAN-A-TIC on 20TH JULY 2016 2:05 PM

     

     

    The Euros showed how important tactics are, in the UK we don’t exactly put a premium on them and we’re consistently found out because of it when we come up against better european opposition. Its not just the coaches at fault, the players normally lack tactical intelligence

  4. CLOGHERCELT@12:32

     

     

    Agree with all you say.

     

     

    Debt, lots of it, is seen by many as the only ‘quick fix’ – however the debt remains for years and cripples you if the ‘quick fix’ doesn’t work.

     

     

    Can the support be patient? – I honestly don’t know – but what I do know is that failure to overcome the Imps will be unquestionably the worst result in the long and glorious history of Celtic FC.

     

     

    Everyone connected with the club will be aware of this and the pressure will build throughout the game until we are in a winning position – pressure can do strange things.

     

     

    However like you, I hope for a 3-0 victory as the minimum we should expect.

  5. Weeminger

     

     

    Is it really so difficult just to be an honest, responsible employer?

     

     

    Or is that too blody difficult in this day and age of self serving money grabbing bonus collecting profiteering?

     

     

    MWD

  6. BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 20TH JULY 2016 2:19 PM

     

     

    sorry, i’m not sure what you mean

  7. timaloy29 sleeps on the heated driveway on

    How did Celtic manage their staff prior to zero hours contracts?

     

     

    Genuine question.

  8. CELTIC40ME

     

     

    I think Celtic Supporters (and the world) is waiting to see if BR has a better formula than RD bearing in mind it’s the same set of players. Experts observers reckon he has, and have posted such.

     

     

    The reversal in Gibraltar was worser than anything RD encountered. ;-)

  9. Zero hour contract.

     

     

    Employee doesn’t get any hours so is entitled to Income Support.

     

     

    So taxpayer, in effect, subsidises employer’s business.

     

     

    Does that amount to state aid?

  10. MOONBEAMSWD on 20TH JULY 2016 2:19 PM

     

     

    I’m afraid it is. As a company we’re going to need say 10 extra bodies for a couple of weeks. That’s the bottom line. (pun totally intended)

     

     

    Could be worse. I was at Ernst & Young for a single day once. They had data they needed processed by the close of play and somebody was off sick. That’s the temps life.

  11. TIMALOY29 SLEEPS ON THE HEATED DRIVEWAY on 20TH JULY 2016 2:28 PM

     

    ‘How did Celtic manage their staff prior to zero hours contracts?’

     

     

    ##

     

     

    I guess they tried to estimate how many staff hours were required and employed accordingly.

     

     

    Exercised some judgement and took a risk that they might occasionally be overstaffed.

     

     

    They don’t have to do that now. In effect the employee is the one carrying the risk.

  12. BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 20TH JULY 2016 2:28 PM

     

     

    True story, but I still remember clearly how unsuited the group of players RD sent out in his first CL games were to the tactics he wanted them to play to, and he wouldn’t deviate from his “tactics” enough quickly enough for us to ever look like favourites for qualifying. A high press with a half fit anthony stokes up front had me tearing my hair out, I had serious doubts about him form then on.

     

     

    RD is a dreamer and a long way from being the innovative thinker we thought we were getting, he’s actually very conservative. A winning formula isn’t set in stone, it evolves and changes according to the circumstances. RD doesn’t get that, I really hope BR does, and we’ll hopefully see evidence of that tonight and over the next two rounds.

  13. mike in toronto on

    Hot Smoked on 20th July 2016 1:08 pm

     

     

    MWD

     

     

    ” If the club stopped making it so easy for us to have reason to have digs maybe it would be much nicer in here.”

     

     

    It would take winning the Champions League to give your final clause a chance !!

     

     

    ***

     

     

    HS…Not a dig at you, pal. Just your post made me think, so, I just thought I would post … but, again, not a dig at you!

     

     

    I cant speak for anyone else, but, for me, I really ‘dont care if we win, lose or draw’ …. as long as:

     

     

    (i) I feel the players are the best we can reasonably afford, and are coached to get the best out of them, and they are giving their all (if that happens, I believe we would do quite well, and probably win enough … maybe not the CL, but enough to keep most fhans happy… but the winning isn’t the important bit, and isn’t why I support Celtic)

     

     

    (ii) the club is run in an open, honest and ethical manner, and represents its history and its community with pride (which is the real reason I would support Celtic).

     

     

    Unfortunately, right now, I feel we are falling short on both. I can live with falling short on No. 1 sometimes (swings and roundabout’s … cant win ’em all), but we are really falling short on No. 2 and there is no sense that the Club cares, as long as it sells enough tickets (and that is the part that is not acceptable to me)..

     

     

     

     

     

     

    JJ

  14. Weeminger.

     

     

    We have had this debate.

     

     

    Zero hour contracts are not temporary contracts. They are a means to remove people from unemployment stats, to allow employers to abuse human beings, allow employers to hold them on contracts without giving them a days work. And if the individual quits the government then sanctions them to weeks/months without benefits. It’s called abuse and austerity. Our club should be above this. But hey they are just profiteering. And they are Celtic so the green tinted specs get put on. AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN.

     

     

    How you and I worked as temps on temporary basis all those years ago is not comparable. I believe you agreed with that the other day.

     

     

    MWD

  15. Alternatively tell existing staff they’ve got mandatory overtime for two weeks. Too bad if they need to arrange child care.

  16. Yes,zero-hours contracts are open to exploitation, but in the vast majority of cases there is no exploitation whatsoever.

     

     

    SMEs employ the bulk of the UK workforce, a workforce now standing at an all time high.

     

     

    In the modern twenty-four trading world, work can be not only seasonal, but extremely time sensitive. It would be economic suicide to compel small and medium-sized companies to pay someone for thirty-five hours, when they were only needed fourteen hours.

     

     

    It would result in companies not offering ‘ad hoc’ and part-time work to those whom it suits perfectly and would place enormous pressure,at certain times, on full-time staff.

     

     

    Some people just love to occupy the faux moral high ground with a distilled doctrine, totally uncontaminated by reality – this is sometimes called zealotry.

  17. The Battered Bunnet on

    Minimum hours contracts

     

     

    Guaranteed hours contracts

     

     

    Annual hours contracts

     

     

    Loads of different ways to manage business seasonality and provide employee security.

     

     

    Zero hours is the lowest cost, lowest risk method for the employer. And the lowest value, highest risk for the employee.

     

     

    It simply comes down to the attitude of the employer as regards the value they place on the role and the employee carrying it out.

  18. MOONBEAMSWD on 20TH JULY 2016 2:44 PM

     

     

    Then some middle ground must be found.

     

     

    I know I’m getting into semantics but is there then a difference between being employed on a “zero hours basis” and a zero hours contract as described?

     

     

    It used to be you could work up to 16 hrs a week without signing off, losing whatever you earned of a £ by £ basis from your benefits. Is that still the case?

  19. The Battered Bunnet on

    Weeminger

     

     

    re Overtime. How’s it managed in your work? (I’m assuming there are times when emloyees need to work beyond standard hours to fulfil the needs of the business/department)

  20. Mats Nicol

     

     

    Because you say it it des not mean it is true. Please provide the statistical backup to prove that in the majority of cases there is no exploitation what so ever.

     

     

    Otherwise, go stand outside a job centre and speak to the individuals who are seeking work, being offered these position and determine from them if they believe they are being exploited.

     

     

    Some people just prefer that we live in a society were we do not abuse the weakest.

     

     

    Others though, like you are just dickheads.

     

     

    MWD

  21. THE BATTERED BUNNET on 20TH JULY 2016 2:52 PM

     

     

    It’s emergencies only ie one-offs and usually no more than 1 or 2 people. There’s never a need for several people to work beyond normal hours for several days. That’s what the CL sale will require.

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