Can everyone just calm their jets on the notion that Brendan Rodgers, or anyone else for that matter, is in prime position for the manager’s job?
I’ve seen these appointments at close quarters for a long time. An interview is often little more than a courtesy. Remember years ago, the ex-Juventus boss, a disaster in Turin, never taken seriously in Glasgow, but he had an influential agent that Celtic wanted to get closer to?
There was also an ex-Celtic player who applied. Everyone know he was a hopeless manager, but still, am ex-player deserved a little courtesy. He was interviewed, then politely told they were going in a different direction.
Brendan was a winning Celtic manager. If, as reported, he was interviewed, you’d better believe he has invested some capital in even being considered. The way he behaved at Liverpool, then Celtic, and his lack of structural legacy at both these clubs and at Leicester, means Brendan has a bit of a reputational challenge going forward. Even being considered by Celtic would do him good.
I don’t see it going any further than this, though. We’ve seen what an actual great manager can do. One that leaves a legacy of a valuable squad. One that never considered short-term loans as part of his modus operandi. A team player in every sense.
We have had an elite operator for two years. The difference to what went before is stark.
I know that in 2019 we didn’t as much appoint Neil Lennon as end up with him after an unfruitful search. So, if we’re reading the signs, there’s a chance we’ll end up with a breaker, not a builder.
I’m reading the signs and I just can’t see Brendan Rodgers getting this gig. His interview is just noise, it’s not the sound you should be paying attention to.
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I was told a few years ago that Allan Stubbs was interviewed for the job when Lennon was appointed in 2019.
GREENPINata
I’m genuinely intrigued, who were the first three EPL teams that Ange turned down ?
Wolves, Brighton & Southampton.
It was all over the papers on Friday.
I hope I am wrong but this smell’s of Pistol Pete and appointing the cheap option.
Step forward Mr John Kennedy.
D :)
Seems inconceivable that Celtic directors would fly to another country to interview someone as a courtesy, especially Rodgers, who they already know all about. Furthermore, he left the club in the lurch a few short years ago – not sure that qualifies him as someone to whom a courtesy is owed.
THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY
Or that PL decided to give him the job in the showers in the day?
Absolutely risible garbage.
He didn’t “decide to give him the job in the showers”.
The decision had already been made. When PL went to the dressing room to tell him the good news, Lenny was in the shower.
A major difference.
DAVID66
I hope I am wrong but this smell’s of Pistol Pete and appointing the cheap option.
Step forward Mr John Kennedy.
Lawwell hasnt even been involved in discussions with prospective managers.
You say it smells like him. What smells like him?
What are you basing that on, as if I didn’t know.
For a week it’s been all about Rodgers, Knutsen, Maresca etc. Where does John Kennedy come into it?
I’m sure I’m missing the obvious answer, but which ex Celtic player who everybody (?) knew was a hopeless manager is PL, sorry P67, referring to?
TEUCHTER ÁR LÁ re: McIlroy and Djokovic
True story! Not much went my way.
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BOURNESOUPRECIPE re: less history than Sevco
Made me chuckle, cheers!
Greenpinata
P67 diverts from McGoons article
Nowt to do with Celtic.
Both await knowledge like us
Both lazy journalism.
I wouldn’t have your heart led by any1 mate.
Here or anywhere.
I express patience only as we move forward
Not fall back into clichéd behavioural patterns.and debates over what press say or forward as a candidate,
Same wi bookies
Record n scum press and bots.
All flatulence
HH
HAIRLIKESPAGHETTI on 12TH JUNE 2023 1:10 PM
I’m sure I’m missing the obvious answer, but which ex Celtic player who everybody (?) knew was a hopeless manager is PL, sorry P67, referring to?
It’s Sam allardyce!
Takes piss!
It’s Sam Allardyce
How we laughed!
Good idea for a moniker switcheroo
Sam Allardyce!
Surprised youv not tried it yet.
And who is McGoon?
CQN is usually incitement and informative. This article is neither and the reason why, I hope, PL should have no say in football matters.
no news day.
This is a dreadful article Paul, bot uncommon on certain occasions. BR left Celtic in February 2019 and NFL completed the treble. NFL then went on to win the treble the following season. In the summer of 2019 he signed Forster, Julien, Frimpong, Taylor and Elyounoussi that would be regular starters. Hardly a squad that needed turned inside out.
Additionally, the signing of loan players should be blamed on Peter Lawwell as many of these were “City group” signings so BR can hardly be held responsible for those. The manager (and I include Ange) can’t get al the credit for signings that go well and none for those that don’t.
BR isn’t for me this time around for various reasons although I think he is as good a coach as we could get. But, let’s not denigrate what he did – as you often do with Martin O’Neill. I’ve watched Celtic for 40 odd years and in that time the best side i’ve seen is between 2000 and 2005.
Paul, poor stuff.
The ‘Shower Scene’ was an act of vandalism wrought upon the Club. Your support for that appointment, and how it was actioned, is appalling.
I can’t believe that you actually believe that supporters/fans/shareholders would find your comment remotely amusing or appropriate.
Ronnie
Lawwell, Lenny, Willow Flood and the showers
Another to add to the CQN bands list
Paul makes a very important point about the sort of manager we should be looking at and why. We will, naturally be looking at ways of mitigating against what’s becoming a bigger problem, we’re becoming a very good proving ground for managers and offering a better route into the EPL. We’re an excellent club to have on your CV, CL football and enough freedom to show that you’re able to implement your own ideas
If you’re able to get the job in the first place, and you succeed, there’s a very good chance you’ll do well elsewhere
Having lost two of our last 3 managers to the EPL there will be no fingers being crossed that the next manager won’t make the same decision before the “project” is finished. We’re not City or Liverpool, the days of managers lasting longer than 3 years are gone.
“Move fast and break things” is much more suited to where we find ourselves. Not build and rebuild but more disruption and flux but within a robust structure that stays when a manager goes.
HAIRLIKESPAGHETTI
Allan Stubbs
I have read this blog for many years now and very seldom post, (now and then). However, this has to be one of the most negative and spiteful articles I have seen in all my time. Yes, I like others was not happy when BR up sticks and left us, yes I wanted Leicester gubbed every time they played when he went but if it means he came back and kept us as the top team in Scotland that will do for me. We need to keep the door firmly closed on the other mob, no oxygen what so ever and that means no experiments with a new manager who might not deliver the title next year but has a long term plan. There is no such thing as a long term plan anymore, Ange showed us that. We live for the here and now. Your article Paul67 sounds like the spoilt school boy who never got his way. Yes Covid played a major part in the failure to deliver 10IAR however not as big a part as PL and NL. Through their stubbornness we capitulated and for that I will never forgive them regardless of their past successes. I never thought i would say it but it is easier to forgive BR than PL.
If Paul has some inside info and is able to come online & correctly debunk the ‘Noise’ about Brendan, then that itself is a disgrace.
If he is just giving his personal opinion much the same as everyone else on here than he should say that, and we can either agree & disagree.
Must say the article has left me feeling disillusioned.
Not surprised Paul has put a dampener on the BR chat….of all the CVs out there …his is by a distance the best …if at all possible…it should be done
The others mentioned especially total rookies just doesn’t bear thinking about!!
In Italy clubs change coaches every other year. Italian football might not be at its best at the moment but Spaletti has done an incredible job at Napoli in no time and Inzaghi has taken Inter to the CL final in two years
It can be done
That bit right there , the spoilt supporters who never got their ten.
I blame Brendan Rodgers, he was meant to be there for ten in a row.
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Yes Covid played a major part in the failure to deliver 10IAR however not as big a part as PL and NL. Through their stubbornness we capitulated and for that I will never forgive them regardless of their past successes. I never thought i would say it but it is easier to forgive BR than PL.
weekend listening.
radio shortie,
on saturday had Mike Mulraney (what school did he go to ?) SFA President being interviewed.
He came across as confident that he was making a difference and that the SFA will go places under his stewardship, Tom English is a hopeless by the way, but so is LeeAnn, dearie me, she asked some real guff.
Anyways, one topic was referee performance, Bobby Madden sticking up for the refs, and var is not as bad as is suggested, stats provided though said different.
Between Bobby and Mike they concluded that the referees can be better, but are under immense pressure and we are lucky to have they fine upsatnding professionals, who get most things right, and var is helping them get more correct ……………
no one asked the real big derek johnston sized elephant in the room ………
how come they cannot all spot penalties that should be given against rangers
Paul67
These days where coaches / managers move they take their entourage and leave no structural legacy. This is where a DOF comes in – Ange is an exception leaving his staff behind (for now).
Whats happening now with our manager search, just confirms that we don’t do succession planning.
Interviews. You select your target and offer them the job.
End of
St Tams – succession planning would surely result in JK getting the job.
GENE on 12TH JUNE 2023 2:00 PM
We don’t need a DoF. We’ve done very well without one
Gene
Apologies, I should have said any planning.
Agree, we should have a DOF
GENE on 12TH JUNE 2023 2:04 PM
Not necessarily. Brighton had De Zerbi on their list while Potter was still there. They have a list of names if/when he leaves.
GEEBEE1978
We all think the worst of the board – with good reason – but we don’t know if they have a similar list. Here’s hoping.
Given that Rodgers’ time with us was only 2 jobs back, what the hell would an interview entail anyway?
Rodgers is all about de-risking him from our need for an ongoing legacy, by tapping into what he’s good at – coaching, when he departs?
-Would you work under the DoF?
-Would you be willing to have minimal control of transfer activity?
-Would you be supportive of our ‘buy young, sell slightly older’ trading model. No ole mates in their late 20s and early 30s or loanees with no option to buy?
HH
De Zerbi wasn’t the result of good succession planning – I don’t think Brighton foresaw the war in the Ukraine
Brighton we’re fortunate to have someone with his ability and excellent reputation available for the short list who was also out of work
BIG WAVY on 12TH JUNE 2023 2:16 PM
If Rodgers wants the job he’ll say yes to them all.
Whether he means it is another thing.
Whether he means it at the time and then changes his mind is another thing again
He’s a great coach but would you trust him to tell the truth?
A list would have to be ever changing to reflect available candidates.
I personally believe that there will be a cadence within the organisations structure, possibly within an HR framework , that a regular list of every managers status withing the game will be discussed.
it is waht every comapny does surely.
you know that battle for talent business speak shite,
but i do believe it will happen.
what else do the directors have to talk about ?
oh, and a wee bit of nepotism thrown in, like all big organisations.
De Zerbi is the perfect example of what interviewing brings to the process of appointing a new manager
Tony Bloom, the Brighton owner was in the radio recently raving about him. He said he knew he was the right man for the job after the interview he gave – he knew every player in the squad (all 24) and he had detail on every one and how they fitted into his system, what he had in mind for them, how he could improve them. He left everyone in no doubt he was the right man
Tony is another Billionaire, the sort of person who makes their money from the correct appointments in key positions
If Celtic really want the best candidate they should ask a panel of supporters from the internet to do zoom call interviews with them.
The questions would be really interesting.