Rogic’s next contract

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Tom Rogic is well within his rights to take time to consider his next contract.  He is thriving at Celtic, but with a year left on his current deal, the future is open.  Front and centre of his mind, of all players’ minds, will be the dirty little subject.  The money paid to lesser talents than Tom in England is incredible, Tom is well within his rights to ponder his position in the food chain.

Then there is his place in the Celtic squad.  Brendan Rodgers is continually looking to improve the team.  It doesn’t matter who you are, you cannot be sure of a place well into the future.

There are also reasons to consider why Celtic might be a good fit for him.  He is not the archetypal English Premier League player, all physique and running.  Tom is a throwback to not so long ago when craft on the ball got you into the team, not the ability to burst a lung for 90 minutes.  All too often, he’s a 60 minute star.

Evidence is everywhere that he is a big game player and proven match winner, but he is not going to temp a title chasing team from England, instead it would be the bottom half battlers who are most likely to be interested in him.  He’s not a natural fit.  Better to stay with the champions.

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  1. ROBINBHOY on 26TH MARCH 2018 8:22 AM

     

    David66

     

     

     

    The muscles can pop and crackle after major orthopaedic surgery (trust me I know) they are just stretching out it’s nothing to worry about. I assume this is happening while you are moving around.

     

     

     

    If your hip was out you would be in major and constant pain.

     

     

     

    Hope this helps

     

    —-

     

    Robinbhoy- it was a funny sound and not sore.

     

    I have called nhs24 and I’m awaiting a call back, there is a slight pain very, very slight.

     

    I thought if it had dislocated I would be in agony, and you have reassured me of this, so thanks.

     

     

    Anyway COYBIG

     

     

    D :)

  2. Delaneys Dunky on

    D66

     

     

    Yes, the Sons are part time. ICT full time.

     

    The Sons train 2 nights a week.

  3. David66

     

    A workmate had a similar experience to yours. He ended up getting a scan done to make sure it was all in place ( which it was ).

     

     

    I had mine done just over a year ago. My approach to the rehab will be totally different for the next one. Overdid it at times and when I backed off the exercises the joint felt much better for the rest. I was talking to a orthopaedic surgeon and he said the healing can take 18 to 24 months before it’s healed completely.

     

    Resist the temptation to rush it.A lot of rest with small amounts of light exercise would be my advice.

     

    Good luck and all the best.

     

     

    HH

  4. David66 @ 7.53

     

     

    Just to keep you in good spirits. I play 5 a sides every week and one of the guys who plays with us got a hip replacement about 2 years ago and is back playing with us every week , albeit it in slow motion ! The average age of us must be around mid- late 40s , though I think I am guilty of bumping that average up a little bit ;@)

     

     

    Roddybhoy

  5. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    ALMORE

     

     

    I thought it only took effect from next year. If it’s from next week,he’s a spawny bassa!

     

     

    I’d ask for a lock of his hair,being that lucky,but he’s a typical baldy-heided beady-eyed beaky-nosed hun who speaks very well of me!

     

     

    You’ll like him when you meet him. He’s not really a hun. Just a bloke who supports a deid team.

  6. Thanks guys

     

    Going to take it easy for a wee while.

     

    What I would give to play a real game of football again….. Aaaahhhh those were the days.

     

     

    DD –there’s the difference. A huge effort from the Sons on Saturday and they should be proud of themselves .

     

     

    D :)

  7. Delaneys Dunky on

    SoT

     

     

    I had that War ina Babylon album.

     

    Listened to in RE bible studies. Had a cool teacher. Great album. Tanks forda memory :))

  8. So that horrible git Moshni has signed for Dundee Utd.

     

    Can I take this opportunity in wishing him and the Arabs the worst of luck.

     

    A horrible crap player and Dundee Utd are a perfect match.

     

     

    D :)

  9. South Of Tunis on

    DELANEYS DUNKY .

     

     

    Argumentative me was barred from RE . My punishment / assumed humiliation was doing Domestic Science with girls . I learned to cook .

  10. Cosy Corner Bhoy on

    Well done Miss CRC!!!!!!

     

    Will let grand daughter know of her success

     

    Proud parents no doubt also!

  11. Reffing Wars

     

     

    IT all got too much for Neil Lennon at Rugby Park last month when a penalty awarded to Kilmarnock by referee Kevin Clancy incensed the Hibernian manager and sparked a confrontation with the official.

     

     

    But while nobody, not even Lennon himself, would have been surprised by his subsequent five-match Scottish FA touchline ban (two of them suspended), what is astonishing is that among the biggest critics of the refereeing system in Scotland are many of the officials themselves.

     

     

    Lennon received the ban for misconduct, but was not further punished for his post-match comments to journalists when he laid into Clancy in particular, and Scottish refereeing standards in general. “Mickey Mouse stuff,” Lennon said contemptuously.

     

     

    A fortnight earlier Tommy Wright, the St Johnstone manager, was more measured when complaining about the performance of another referee, Andrew Dallas, following his dismissal of David Wotherspoon in a league game at Tynecastle.

     

     

    What linked the two managers’ remarks was that both claimed it was a waste of time phoning the SFA’s head of refereeing operations, John Fleming, on a Monday to complain about his top officials.

     

     

    “I have probably spoken to John Fleming about Andrew Dallas more than any referee. Nothing seems to change,” Wright said.

     

     

    Lennon was in agreement. “You ring John Fleming on a Monday and you get the same ‘yeah, yeah’. You go round in circles, and I’ve lost a lot of faith in it to tell you the truth,” he said.

     

     

    It seems that view is shared in refereeing circles. Clancy and Dallas are regarded by many of their peers as being among a select few in Scotland who wear “bullet-proof vests”. That is because they are Fifa-list referees – the other five in this category being John Beaton, Willie Collum, Bobby Madden, Don Robertson and Nick Walsh.

     

     

    According to recently- retired referees the Sunday Herald has spoken to, the seven Fifa officials are allocated Premiership matches regardless of how many mistakes they are accused of making.

     

     

    Meanwhile, other Category 1 referees find themselves demoted to the lower leagues if, and when, they make similar errors, losing not only status but the much higher financial payments available in the top league.

     

     

    Another allegation is that geographical bias is also a factor, according to James Bee, a former Category 2 referee who retired in 2014 and is secretary of the Prospect professional trade union branch of Scottish referees.

     

     

    “This isn’t just about Fifa referees – it goes wider than that,” said Bee, pictured bottom left. “There are others at Category 1 level who are treated differently [from their colleagues] as well. There appears to be a geographical bias favouring referees from three central belt associations to the detriment of the others.”

     

     

    Bee points out that of the seven current Fifa referees, three belong to the Glasgow association, with Lanarkshire and Renfrewshire each having two. He further states that the last Edinburgh Fifa referee was Calum Murray, who came off the list in 2013. The last Ayrshire referee was in 2007, in Fife it was 2000, and Aberdeen 1999.

     

     

    “There’s nothing wrong with every country appointing who they believe to be the seven top referees to the Fifa category,” Bee continued. “What has been questioned is how these decisions are arrived at – and what the process is behind them.

     

     

    “The first Scottish Cup final was in 1873 – and it was 107 years before an Edinburgh referee was appointed to take charge. It is now 145 years since that first final and there has been a total of three. I think that would be reflected in the other associations outwith Glasgow, Lanarkshire and Renfrewshire.”

     

     

    REMARKABLY, some referees in recent years have been put on the Fifa list without having ever taken charge of a Premiership match.

     

     

    “The Fifa rules state that a referee can’t be appointed to the list younger than 28,” Bee explained. “The SFA’s referee operations department and referee committee will look at the guys coming up to that age and would hope to identify referees who are good enough.

     

     

    “That never used to be the case, but the policy for a few years now is the younger the better. As somebody once said to me, if they’re targeting younger guys that’s great – but why does it always seem to be younger guys from the same three associations? Do people from these three areas have a genetic predisposition for refereeing?”

     

     

    One high-profile former referee, speaking on the guarantee of anonymity, said: “You can pick somebody to grow into a position, but you can’t buy experience. You can pass a fitness test, or a laws of the game examination – but it’s the practical nature and man management of dealing with 22 players and two sets of coaching staff that’s going to be the deciding factor as to whether or not, over time, you’re good enough to do the job.

     

     

    “To be able to look at somebody [for the Fifa list] without having had that experience just beggars belief.”

     

     

    THE Scottish Senior Football Referees Association (SSFRA) was formed in 2005 as a vehicle for referees to raise issues, both within the referee department and the SFA. Bee is a former chairman, but, like other ex-referees spoken to, believes it now isn’t fit for purpose.

     

     

    The current chairman is Lennon’s nemesis Clancy, and it is understood about 50 match officials are members. Prospect have some 65 members, including several Premiership officials, yet the SFA refuse to deal with the union – in contrast with the Football Association in England.

     

     

    Brian Colvin retired at the end of 2015 and says it is impossible for the SSFRA to properly represent his former colleagues when they feel they need to raise issues.

     

     

    “The fact that active referees run the SSFRA is fundamentally flawed,” Colvin said. “When I was refereeing at the top level, I would have been very uncomfortable taking a serious matter – such as an issue with appointments – to the SSFRA. It’s easy to argue that it doesn’t have the skill set, or indeed the freedom, to act in the collective best interests of referees.

     

     

    “I would have felt the opposite approaching experts within Prospect, knowing they would undoubtedly be able to give me sound, confidential and professional advice – as well as taking issues forward to the SFA, should it be required, without any risks or concerns. I didn’t feel this was the case with the current SSFRA model.”

     

     

    THAT many referees do have concerns was laid bare in a survey conducted by Prospect among 50 of their members. Asked if they believed the match appointments and grading of referees was fair and transparent, a staggering 82 per cent replied they did not.

     

     

    When asked if they felt the SFA was concerned with their well-being and development, the referees’ replies were also in the negative – 62 per cent said they felt the governing body wasn’t concerned. The survey was conducted 15 months ago, but this is the first time the results have been published and the anecdotal evidence is that the perceived problems very much remain.

     

     

    The former referee quoted earlier who asked not to be named said: “There was a feeling of ‘them and us’ among the 30 or so Category 1 referees when I was there. Clearly the referees who have the Fifa badge have to be refereeing the top games domestically, but you would want everything to be fair and transparent. Those are two key concepts that I don’t think were ever achieved.

     

     

    “The 82 per cent negative response [to the survey question on match appointments and the grading of referees being fair and transparent] is extremely high. You would expect there to be a degree of disgruntlement but that’s astronomic. As you’re getting promoted through the ranks you’re flavour of the month, or you must be at some stage to get to Category 1, but what happened within that category was extremely demotivating.

     

     

    “It just wasn’t fair. You would see high-profile errors being made by some referees without the same repercussions as there were for others.”

     

     

    THE former official believes that a small number of referee match observers, former referees who grade performances from the stands, contribute hugely to the alleged problems of geographical bias and favouritism.

     

     

    “The grading clearly had an effect on what fixtures you got over time,” he said. “The vast majority of observers I found to be helpful and trustworthy, but there was a small group who I would say were extremely biased towards their own referee associations.

     

     

    “Some of their views were so way off the mark from any other feedback you got, and consistently so over a number of years, that what they wrote wasn’t worth the paper it was written on. You just wouldn’t read their reports.

     

     

    “The vast majority of us are accustomed in our day jobs to being held accountable and appraised. It’s a very similar system in refereeing, but when it’s as unfair in certain quarters as it is, it just stinks.”

     

     

    THE SFA RESPONSE

     

     

    A Scottish FA spokesperson said: “The Scottish FA is committed to the development and well-being of match officials – with a recruitment programme that stretches across the country.

     

     

    “We appreciate the contribution from those across all levels of the domestic game and have an open-door policy to listen to any concerns individuals may have.”

  12. Delaneys Dunky on

    SoT

     

     

    Good lifeskill to learn. Our RE class at Saint Tam’s were all male and half puffers. The lassies got taught about the birds and bees by the nuns. Always used to wonder how nuns knew more about sex than 15 year old West End Girls? ;))

  13. DD

     

     

    I only started posting on Thursday although a long term lurker, and I am an ex St Tams Bhoy as well. I love reading your tales of yesteryear. In fact when you were talking last week about the abuse by teachers , can you remember the mini riots we had after that despicable episode (setting bins on fire and pushing them down to staff entrance and setting maps on ground floor on fire) not condoning any of the violence of course……

     

     

    I think we used to stay on the same street. Well avenue!

     

     

    D :)

  14. Word of The Day

     

     

    Sapient /ˈseɪpɪənt/

     

     

    adjective

     

    1. having or showing great wisdom or sound judgment.

     

    2. (often ironic) wise or sagacious

     

     

    Derived Forms

     

    sapience, noun

     

    sapiently, adverb

     

     

    Word Origin and History for sapient

     

    adj.

     

    “wise,” late 15c. (early 15c. as a surname), from Old French sapient, from Latin sapientem (nominative sapiens), present participle of sapere “to taste, have taste, be wise,” from PIE root *sep- “to taste, perceive” (cf.Old Saxon an-sebban “to perceive, remark,” Old High German antseffen, Old English sefa “mind, understanding, insight”).

     

     

     

    KTF

  15. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MURDOCHAULDANDHAY

     

     

    That article,from so many sources-some of whom are even now scared to identify themselves-is damning.

     

     

    So it will be ignored. Never happened. No such thing as a good old boys network in Scottish football,doncha know.

  16. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    DAVID66

     

     

    Aye,Thursday. And I inadvertently p’d you off in seconds!

     

     

    Apologies for the misunderstanding. I just don’t do the smiley thing.

     

     

    Dunno how to work them emojis.

  17. South Of Tunis on

    DELANEYS DUNKY _

     

     

    I went to a non denominational school . Re was taught by a Dr – therefore a man with a PhD . He wore a dog collar .. I was belted for being unable to accept belief as fact . . My parents objected to me being assaulted -solution was Domestic Science with the girls . .

     

     

    A formative experience for me . I also learned that many of my classmates were cowards and hypocrites . Many shared my non belief but found it more expedient and much less sore on the hands to stay schtoom in the class and then moan about it afterwards.

  18. Delaneys Dunky on

    David66

     

     

    I started Saint Tams in ’77. Remember the riot well. You didnae mess wi Partick, Whiteinch, Scotstoun, Yoker, Knightswood Temple bhoys.

     

    There are a few ex Saint Bam’s bhoys who post on here. I was fae Kirkton.

  19. I see that Tam McManus, who is he. Did he play a game for Hibs once? Is asking that Celtic fans get behind McLeish because he is a good guy. McManus like Keevans from radio Snyde will not tell us all why we are not getting behind EBT McLeish, and wee Bazza (v-for get it up ye) Fergus-Hun the studio analyst and a corrupt SFA.

     

    They will roll out the Celtic v Rangers pish (although they are deed) and small minded Celtic fans shoite, and say we ought to grow up, and if you try and get onto Snyde to have your say, well they will not let you anywhere near it.

     

    All IMO of course

     

     

    D :)

  20. BMCUW

     

     

    You are a Celtic fan, you could never piss me off.

     

    As time goes on we might have disagreements or differing points of view , but you will never piss me off. Life is too short to argue amongst ourselves .

     

     

    HH

     

     

    D :)

  21. DELANEYS DUNKY on 26TH MARCH 2018 11:15 AM

     

    D66

     

     

     

    Never heard of Well Ave???

     

     

    Lol… Kirkton Avenue

     

     

    D :)

  22. Delaneys Dunky on

    Pete

     

     

    Please listen to track SoT posted at 10.11.

     

    War ina Babylon. Taken from scripture.

     

    Right up your street mi amigo.

  23. Terrible that £7 delivery charge, and all those missing out on a semi-final, despite paying for their HCTS matches.

     

     

    Still, could be worse. Thousands of us could be thousands of pounds out of pocket having paid,unwittingly, into a rigged game for over 10 years.

     

     

    Oh, wait! And wait. . . And wait. . .

     

     

    Is the CO the new final, naw really, final EBT court case?

     

     

    Days to CO vs TO now down to single figures.

  24. Gerryfaethebrig on

    DD 8.54am

     

     

    Stop being the over critical uncle :-)

     

     

    I watched the game on Saturday as I knew your Chris was playing, thought he done fine considering he has been out for a while, as for the goal I blame the guy who was meant to be marking the goalscorer :-)

  25. DD– I stayed in 135 Kirkton ave and ex corpus and St tams Bhoy

     

    Used to beat you at football in the pitch awe the time. :)

     

     

     

    D :)

  26. Delaneys Dunky on

    GFTB

     

     

    The ball should not have been allowed to teach the back post. Chris is sick he allowed it by him. He is an honest Godson. :)

  27. Delaneys Dunky on

    D66

     

     

    Year below me mate. Bump into your John and loved your dad God rest him. Drew M posts here. My sis Jackie’s year. Chris McLaughlin is her son. Great to greet you Davie. I am Garry D.

  28. DD

     

     

    Thanks Garry, I knew that was you as I have been lurking for about 6 years.

     

    Sorry to read about your recent issues. Stay strong pal

     

     

    Some place this site. It’s amazing in it.

     

     

    D :)

  29. DD _ I am strangely happy.

     

     

     

    Ye are a righteous critic, proper.

     

     

    My wee Bro facilitated me skiing in the Sunshine.

     

     

    As you know DANDY. He is mad and mental and his obsession is working his bones constantly, he is sh!t driving a car but getting better. He skis @ 70 miles an hour.

     

     

    I didnnae need th/\t additional worry TBH.

     

     

    Wan mair Time

     

     

    I hope the Celtic/Home end @ the dump is Jumpin’.

  30. Gerryfaethebrig on

    DD

     

     

    Was gutted for him, MrsGFTB was asking when did I become a Dumbarton fan ? When I started to explain she then said “I take it’s something to do with CQN” then just walked away shaking her head :-)

  31. Delaneys Dunky on

    Thought I was strong Davie, but losing my dad, my mam suffering dementia, my divorce and severe health problems for my daughter and granddaughter in the last few years had floored me. Thanks auld mucker. Getting there.

     

    HH