You seldom hear football people speak as unguardedly as Peter Grant did to The Herald yesterday about Scott Brown. “If somebody had offered us £4m (in 2010)? I would have driven him down the road myself”. The tone of Peter’s piece was supportive, though. Our former assistant manager affirms Scott is a vastly improved performer since. I agree.
You never really know what is going on inside a squad. Footballers play with injuries, many find the distractions of wealth all-consuming and some are simply deployed incorrectly. At the #19 game last week I recalled the form of Stiliyan Petrov under John Barnes, he was lost, especially when playing right back. Bobby Petta also looked out of sorts under Barnes but within weeks of playing for Martin O’Neill both were among the most valuable assets at the club.
Neil Lennon told us last week that Scott Brown was unfit during last season’s Champions League campaign. It’s clear that he is an incredibly more effective player when fit, but Peter Grant suggests Brown has also learned positional discipline, a subject he has previously been criticised here for.
A lot of Scott’s contribution is off the ball. He closes space, filling the park with a presence, which is defensively important, especially on Champions League duty. I’ve never seen Celtic’s yardage stats on players but you have to think he’ll top the list most weeks, he is the Great Scottish Runner, but all that energy needed to be harnessed correctly, which is perhaps what Scott is learning from former midfielder, Neil Lennon.
The next achievement to look out for from Scott is a marquee performance on a European stage………
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hen1rik
12:29 on 17 September, 2013
No worries Hendricks, keep up the great work, I always look out for your posts yer a great wee Internet troll :-)
Sorry hen1rik predictatext
Cheers again
Greenyin… saw this recently on KDS – hope it works
http://tinypic.com/ivy41w.jpg
Sorry to be pedantic but can we get rid of the Paddy Power ads? I know it’s an external media feed but surely you can request what you don’t want visitors to see ?
People that leave Celtic on bad terms have an uncanny knack of getting loads of media attention.
Thanks tamrabam
i’ll have look on celtic minded
hen1rik
12:31 on
17 September, 2013
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The information the police siezed in that raid was passed to HMRC.
First Rangers had a MIH tax expert in charge of the paperwork. He refused all previous demands (over a 4 year period) from HMRC to hand evidence over.
This siezed evidence was the bedrock for the wee tax case – for which First Rangers admitted liability and a fine – then didn’t pay.
It is also being used currently in the Big Tax case appeal, which I am reliably informed HMRC expect to win (probably March 2014).
Scott Brown has made himself an essential part of the Celtic team, his drive and influence are evident on a consistent basis.
It still grates that he struggles to pass a football 10 yards to a team mate.
setting free the bears supports Celtic’s best fighter- Wee Oscar Knox
12:44 on 17 September, 2013
‘Paul.
I think you are too easy on Peter Grant. Yes he was overall supportive of Broony but, within that article he revealed an “in-house” conversation with PL, which could cause disruption in our camp in the run up to the Milan game.’
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Oh yes I see what you mean.
Peter Lawwell may have suggested Keane be captain.
BTM ignored any such suggestion and appointed Scott Brown.
The players’ heads will all be scrambled by that.
They’ll all need immediate and intensive counseling.
greenyinfurrafenian
if you look very closely at some of the brake club photos in google images you may notice a very young fergus mccann leaning against a wall
greenyinfurrafenian
http://i48.tinypic.com/34dsgnl.jpg
Tomtheleedstim
thanks for the link. Saved and will show it to my elder relatives
Kayal33
is that Hamilton?
Thanks kayak 33
Afternoon, only 1 more day until the Big Cup Adventure 2013 starts in Milan,
Scott Brown has matured over the last 18 months ,has grown in to the captains role , and in my opinion is a first pick when fit. Would like him to score more goals if i was being picky. But happy he is one of the Bhoys.
Looking at the team choices for tomorrow we have a core group who have experience from last year thus we have earned the right to not be overawed.
at the back I think the four pick themselves lets go for this four as our first picks and build an understanding. – Lustig, Ambrose, van Dijk, Izaguirre
In the middle I would pick Mulgrew with Brown and Ledley in a tight middle three.
with Commons on the right but able to roam with Brown covering him.
The big decision for me is around where Sami plays , left or up top , if left then Ants may get a start up top that his early season form has earned him. If Sami goes up top then Boerrigter can play left (he does have plenty Champions league experience)
Neil has some big decisions to make, either way we are in for another great night and hopefully we can come home with a point.
greenyinfurrafenian
12:38 on 17 September, 2013
There is a picture on the Old Celtic Images thread on the Kerrydale St website of the Celtic Brake Club, no idea what page it is on (their are over 700) but I am sure someone on it can point you in the right direction
P.S once you start looking at the pics on thread you won’t stop
http://kerrydalestreet.co.uk/topic/8459444/1/
tomtheleedstim .
great photo hope he can spot his gr.gr.grandad.
they seem to be going where no one has dared go……….
ps has your bhoy started at YORK yuni yet.??
!!Bada Bing!!
12:48 on 17 September, 2013
Sorry to be pedantic but can we get rid of the Paddy Power ads? I know it’s an external media feed but surely you can request what you don’t want visitors to see ?
Undoubtedly these ads help to pay for the upkeep of this fine site, which is still free so you can hardly complain about them as it keeps the site open.
HH RobinBhoy
Kayal33 .
they all got hats and suits on????things could not have been that bad.
Been away and so only now caught up with the very sad news about miki67. So very sorry to hear that and my sincere condolences to his family. Lovely post from Larrybhoy. Very sad news.
FAVOURITE UNCLE
12:58 on
17 September, 2013
Late 19th Century prawn sandwich brigade
It’s the wee things that count .
Being dragged round the Quadrilatero d’Oro by Mrs S of T —–” It’ll be autumn soon — I need new clothes and shoes ”
Go for an espresso in a wee bar ,guy behind bar is a playing a homemade compilation of 60s choons . Up pops one of my all time faves —.
Henry Buckley —–With a Girl Like You .
Made my day !
More shopping tonight , outlet land on Via Bronzetti .[ the joys ]
Forecast for tomorrow night is cloudy /18 degrees
italic. Good bold.afternoon
Thanks again bhoys
i found the photo i was referring to and forwarded on to my uncle. He confirms it is my g g gf. I’m a bit of a dinosuar i’m afraid and unable to post it on here.
greenyin
FAVOURITE UNCLE
12:58 on 17 September, 2013
‘Kayal33 .
they all got hats and suits on????things could not have been that bad.’
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Then as now the casuals went by train.
Difficult to say, but would guess that the starting 11 for tomorrow’s game will be one of NL’s toughest selections to date.
Lots of differing opinions on here would seem to support that.
A criticism that I have of NL over the years has been his lack of flexibility, adventure and a plan B in his selections (would suggest this is due to MON influence), but some of the players that he has bought now means he can pick a side that can quite easily change shape and focus. I think that’s hugely important, especially in Europe.
At the minute I’m not sure what I would do with the Stokes/Pukki/Samaras lone striker option – but I don’t accept that you can’t play Pukki because he’s only just arrived. In many ways, playing as a lone striker is a perfect situation for a new recruit, as you don’t necessarily need that deepened understanding with the rest of the team to be successful.
Thanks peter
again thanks to all who pointed me in the right direction
RobinBhoy-So why don’t we have adverts for Sevco related stuff then? No complaints? HH
ernie
I am happy to be corrected about the timing of Scott’s captaincy. As I recall, we had lost Stephen McManus to loan about 6 months earlier but Scott did not take up the captaincy, because he was out injured, until February 2010 when Robbie Keane was arriving. I cannot recall who was interim captain during that October 09 to Jan 2010 period but they must have been seen as interim if they were replaced by a Scott Brown returning from a serious injury.
Now why was Scott Brown selected as club captain? It cannot have been because of club form as he was not playing well at that time. It was not a good choice with fans who felt, like Peter, that he was not a clear enough first team pick and they wanted a more fan-pleasing captain in a Roy Aitken style.
I have always felt that Scott was promoted to Captain because the views of the players in the dressing room supported it. He was captain material to the people who matter in the choice of a captain i.e. the players rather than the fans. Scott has, of course, matured as a player but his disciplinary record remains quite similar to when he arrived. He still gets lots of yellows and is skilled at playing “on the brink of an ordering off. One of his two red cards was a joke, appealed by the club and backed by the manager, so one legitimate red card (89th minute second yellow) in 6 seasons for a combative midfielder is pretty disciplined, I’d say.
The main point remains that Peter Grant should not be revealing in house disputes between two people who remain within the club, on the eve of a CL tie. I would not have complained about this secret being revealed if either PL or Scott Brown were no longer with our club.
I stand by the view that Peter Grant should not have revealed this now.
Haven’t read the article by Peter Grant and have no desire to do so. He long long ago blotted his copy book in my eyes. He truly is not Celtic-minded (to use that horrible phrase).
Our captain has improved immensely imo and adds immeasurably to the team. He has made passes this season that I wouldn’t have felt he was capable of.
My team (if all are fit) for tomorrow night:
Foster, Lustig, Ambrose, van Dijk and Mathews; Brown, Commons and Ledley, Boerrigter, Stokes and Samaras. (SoT was recommending yesterday that we play with 2 wide men.)
Broony has definitely matured. Less easy to wind up and more the winder uperer.
I was starting to fancy our chances tomorrow. Totally confident now that I know a half fit Forrest will not be near the team.
COYBIG!
Just had my first re-run look at the game va the mini zombies from saturday. The more you see stokes play for pukkis? Goal , the better it gets.
Can you imagine the press coverage if someone from the self proclaimed best league in the world had done that.
Anyway as always with only one day till we kick off our group stage campaign, I fell optimistic about our chances, its not until tomorrow I will start cra##ing it.
h.h.
yorkbhoy
12:23 on 17 September, 2013
Scott Brown got a couple of nasty challenges against Hearts, he got up smiled and walked away… I think his maturity has helped his overall game…
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Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar
12:49 on 17 September, 2013
Scott Brown has made himself an essential part of the Celtic team, his drive and influence are evident on a consistent basis.
It still grates that he struggles to pass a football 10 yards to a team mate.
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commented on both these points while watching game at weekend :))
mostly this bit
Scott Brown has made himself an essential part of the Celtic team, his drive and influence are evident on a consistent basis.
I think Scott Brown not only has the respect and influences of the other players on the park but I believe he also plays a big part in the dressing room.It is difficult for us the supporters to see that influence but I believe Scott has it in spades.H.H.
One of our best players getting it again, Broonie was played out of position by Strachan and Mowbray then injuries st in.
Without Broonie in the team we have no drive.
Then of course we have the nonsense about his passing abilities.
Hope Broonie finishes his playing days at Celtic.
KTF AC Milan 0 Celtic FC 2 Brown 23min and 78min
Why is Scott Brown captain?
I think there are many reasons. Don’t forget how close he was to his sister who sadly passed away after a long illness. He never once shirked the shirt. Don’t forget how many times he played only with the aid of pain-killing injections, from one season into the next, and into the next again. Don’t forget how often he postponed his surgery for the sake of the team. And if that, and more, has escaped you, don’t forget how he dragged ten-man Celtic to a 2-2 cup draw at Ibrox and the Broonie was born.
ernie
“Oh yes I see what you mean…..
The players’ heads will all be scrambled by that.
They’ll all need immediate and intensive counseling.”
A wee bit hyperbolix and sarcastic, don’t you think?
I hope and believe that Scott Brown will be too focused and professional to let this affect him on the run up to Wednesday’s tie.
However, if what PG revealed was news to him, I expect it could harm his future relationship with our CEO. Now, if PL has already revealed to Scott that he had had doubts about appointing him captain but he was happy to be proved wrong then it will all be water under the bridge.
Unless Peter Grant knows that Peter Lawwell has had that conversation with Scott Brown, then he remains guilty of revealing other people’s dirty laundry. Is that really so hard to understand? It was not his place to reveal this unilaterally.