News that Dundee United will vote against allocating a place in next season’s SPL to Sevco confirms what we suggested yesterday, that sentiment has swung against the notion. Motherwell’s innovative idea of allowing fans (who have already expressed overwhelming opposition to the idea) a vote is further evidence that even hard-pressed clubs are prepared to make financially difficult decisions. Suggestions that the Motherwell board should grow a pair and take responsibility themselves have some merit.
Stewart Milne has denied BBC reports that Aberdeen have decided to vote against but I expect this is a matter of due process more than any genuine indecision.
There was a feeling this morning that matters could be brought to a head sooner than 4 July if enough clubs publicly declared against Sevco. This would suit Charles Green’s company as they would be able to prepare offers to Rangers players (who they are able to sign) knowing where they are likely to end up. If they are forced to wait until 4 July, Sevco will not know what squad requirements they will need for next season before making a decision on what Rangers players to offer employment to.
More than SPL football, Sevco need clarity. A rush to declare against them might seem harsh but it would be enormously beneficial rather than being forced to wait a further 12 days.
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paulantony
At first glance it seems a little unwieldy until I realised that the English Football League Championship has twenty four teams, paying forty six matches plus play off games. I am an advocate of a bigger top division and a move away from playing each other four times a season. Maybe eighteen of the teams you listed, derbies galore and a trip to Celtic Park. Another alternative of course is a geographical distribution, based on the cities, towns and shires. Only one team in Glasgow mind you!
Meanwhile over on MT Moron…
Celtic remember this when you vote
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Question for liewell I know you look into these boards through your catholic cohorts at the SFA and your scummy fans. Remember this back in the 1950s when the other Scottish club wanted you out as you fly a illegal and offensive flag who stuck up for yous.
Answer Yes Rangers FC did
Whos team chairman congratulated your Lisbon Loosers after they Flucked there way to win the European Cup
yes Rangers
Whos fans did not want you to go burst when you were about to be wound up in 1994
Yes Rangers
So if you dont vote us in it just shows that your team is spineless pathetic and in the future when you need help from us forget it
archdeaconsbench on 23 June, 2012 at 13:22 said:
What was it? I never bother with them.
Afternoon Ghents,
With the exodus from club 12 nnow in full swing, if you could take one player of their hands (for free obviously) who would you take? For me it would be Aluko, thems are really hurting that he has decided to walk
Charles Green threatens Newco Rangers players with ‘breach of contract’ charges – you can read his statement here:
“We are meeting the PFA Scotland and their legal advisers on Monday with a view to allaying players’ concerns about the transfer of contracts so the timing of these announcements by players is hard to understand.
“The transfer of contracts has already happened and the club’s clear legal advice is that players’ purported objection is ineffective.
“Rangers would like to make it abundantly clear to players, agents and the chairmen and managers of other football clubs that we will take whatever steps necessary to challenge what we regard as a breach of contract to protect the interests of our club.”
Seriously, stuff like that is hardly going to persuade anyone to want to stay and work for this man, is it? What’s he playing at?
RANGERS manager Ally the shi*bag Mcmoist this afternoon released the following statement.
He said: “It has been reported that a couple of players have indicated they want to challenge the transfer of their contracts. This is news to me and no player has spoken to me about it.
“At all times during my first year as manager, I strived to show players respect and in return would have hoped they would have shown me, and more importantly the club, respect by notifying us of their intentions before making it known elsewhere.
“Players have their own decisions to make and I understand that, but the question they have to ask themselves is do they want to play for Rangers or not?
“The formation of a new company is not the issue. The players would be playing for the same club – Rangers – in front of the same fans.
“If players want to leave and play somewhere else then they should be honest with the Rangers supporters.
“I don’t want Rangers fans to be reading over the next few days how devastated players are about having to go. The fans deserve better than that. They are not daft.
“I can understand if a player has the chance to go somewhere else and there is uncertainty about which division we will be playing in.
“If that is the case that is understandable but they should not expect sympathy from Rangers supporters if they use the transfer of contracts as an excuse.
“I already know there are agents touting my players all over the United Kingdom, so let’s be brutally honest.
“We are in a difficult situation and the contracts issue has given some players and agents the belief they can use it to leave the club.
“After all that the club and the fans have gone through, the supporters, above all, deserve the truth and should not have to listen to stories trying to sugar-coat the possible departure of players from the club.
“The players were magnificent last season and made great sacrifices and that will never be forgotten.
“Now, we have to look forward and everyone should be upfront and honest about their intentions.”
Rangers CEO Charles Green added: “We are meeting the PFA Scotland and their legal advisers on Monday with a view to allaying players’ concerns about the transfer of contracts so the timing of these announcements by players is hard to understand.
“The transfer of contracts has already happened and the club’s clear legal advice is that players’ purported objection is ineffective.
“Rangers would like to make it abundantly clear to players, agents and the chairmen and managers of other football clubs that we will take whatever steps necessary to challenge what we regard as a breach of contract to protect the interests of our club.”
Ally the sh*tbag Mcmcoist
This has not been Awe Nawed :-)
Paulantony
Pity Ayr United got relegated, but a good point on the size of the crowd at Hampden between them and Killie. Shouldn’t play those games there mind you but where else in Glasgow has a 30,000 capacity. If Ayr and Kilmarnock were both in the top division, their crowds against each other would exceed any NewCo visit, especially if it was simply home and away.
Tinseltown in the rain indeed. Ah well at least it only rains beer inside the pubs:-) Looking forward to a couple tonite with T4 and MWD and co.
Some good news, is that I have spoke with both Paul67 and Bundoran Bhoy and we have all agreed on who will be the benficiary for the profits on the forthcoming second edition CQN badges. It simply had to be Wee Oscar.
http://oscarknox.blogspot.co.uk/
HH
CRC
cqnbadges@gmail.com
TFOD players contracts were with RFCIL. So if they are deid then surely their contract is deid?
http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/football-news/article/2820089
“The formation of a new company is not the issue. The players would be playing for the same club – Rangers – in front of the same fans.
Try to gloss over the truth all you want Sally. Rangers are dead!
AndyM
There is no manager who gets the chance to manage Celtic who isn’t ‘good’.
Remove the players on ebt’s at the huns,remove the funding which those players ‘won’ to give them momentum,look at the honest mistakes in both ours and the huns games then come back to me with your tartan media mentality argument.
I never said Mowbray was great,I know his team was too cavalier etc but I will tell you this much,take it all into consideration and Mowbray would’ve done his job properly and won the league.
•-:¦:-•** -:¦:- sparkleghirl :¦:-.•**• -:¦:-• on 23 June, 2012 at 13:25 said:
Perhaps this may help…
“Sociopaths have little regard for the feelings of others and manipulate others in order to get what they desire. The term “sociopath” is no longer used in psychology and psychiatry, and the disorder is now called “antisocial personality disorder.” People who have this disorder often have no sense of right or wrong and many only receive treatment when forced to by the judicial system, an employer or family member. “
Rangers would like to make it abundantly clear to players, agents and the chairmen and managers of other football clubs that we will take whatever steps necessary to challenge what we regard as a breach of contract to protect the interests of our club.”
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(1) ‘Rangers’ don’t exist
(2) ‘…whatever steps necessary…’ How are you funding this chucleheid?
(3) ‘…protect the interests of our club.’ What club? you own (or do you?) some property, RFC(ia/l) is still with D&P.
The journo on Shortbread seems to think that chucklebuttie is in it for the long haul. This guy was previously involved in ground-sharing proposals for the Sheffield clubs (on an out of town site) and the sale of the two home grounds for development.
theweegreenman….
Advertisement for a limited edition Irish watch, quoting words from the Soldiers Song, ‘Sworn To Be Free’ etched on the side of the watch,
Tagline says ‘Celebrate the freedom, strength and pride of our nation!’
For the record, the paper was sitting in my Mothers house this morning. Honest.
ASonOfDan on 23 June, 2012 at 13:18 said:
I like the openess of the Motherwell statement.
It does highlight the damage David Murray has inflicted on the whole of Scottish football.
“The formation of a new company is not the issue. The players would be playing for the same club – Rangers – in front of the same fans” Err…no they wouildnt Fat Sally……Still not quite getting it are you fella….
“I already know there are agents touting my players all over the United Kingdom, so let’s be brutally honest.” Yes, lets be honest Ally, they are NOT your players are they? Numpty.com
bournesouprecipe on 23 June, 2012 at 12:19
That is good news, my network (3) has never had a good signal anywhere at Celtic Park.
Buy Buy
=
Bye Bye
That’s fine Sally. If you are so insistent that sevco RFC is the same club as RFCil then all punishments for RFCil’s offences can be applied to sevco RFC.
OK?
Unbelievable document from Motherwell … threatening their fans with an insolvency event if they vote No.
No inclusion of the word integrity in the document, a total shocker!
I have 2 Well fans next door, need to get lobbying!
Integritycf
Dear Mr Charles Green,
If you look up TUPE, or being a multi millionaire, have someone do it for you, you will find that the P and E stand for Protection of Employment.
Footballers may be very well paid but they are still employees with rights.
archdeaconsbench on 23 June, 2012 at 13:35 said:
I believe ye mate. :-)
Thanks fir the update and I agree, someone will be in hot water over at the dailyranjer.
I’m guessing other clubs aren’t exactly queing up to secure the managerial services of Sally.
Does anyone know when the players get paid? I assume they’ll have to sign up to newco to get their wages.
ernir lynch
sure I read the 26th
Also read some players were refusing wages as that would tie them to NEWCLUB, but surely they are still under DEADCLUB & D&P till they get their death certificate,
Confusedcsc but smiling :))))))))))
starry plough on 23 June, 2012 at 13:34 said:
I think Whyte showed the signs of being a psychopath or a sociopath or having antisocial personality disorder. I’m not sure Green shows these tendencies.
Ineptitude springs to mind.
FPLG greeting again…
RANGERS manager Ally McCoist has this
afternoon released the following
statement.
He said: “It has been reported that a couple
of players have indicated they want to
challenge the transfer of their contracts. This
is news to me and no player has spoken to
me about it.
“At all times during my first year as
manager, I strived to show players respect
and in return would have hoped they would
have shown me, and more importantly the
club, respect by notifying us of their
intentions before making it known
elsewhere.
“Players have their own decisions to make
and I understand that, but the question they
have to ask themselves is do they want to
play for Rangers or not?
“The formation of a new company is not the
issue. The players would be playing for the
same club – Rangers – in front of the same
fans.
“If players want to leave and play
somewhere else then they should be honest
with the Rangers supporters.
“I don’t want Rangers fans to be reading
over the next few days how devastated
players are about having to go. The fans
deserve better than that. They are not daft.
“I can understand if a player has the chance
to go somewhere else and there is
uncertainty about which division we will be
playing in.
“If that is the case that is understandable
but they should not expect sympathy from
Rangers supporters if they use the transfer
of contracts as an excuse.
“I already know there are agents touting my
players all over the United Kingdom, so let’s
be brutally honest.
“We are in a difficult situation and the
contracts issue has given some players and
agents the belief they can use it to leave the
club.
“After all that the club and the fans have
gone through, the supporters, above all,
deserve the truth and should not have to
listen to stories trying to sugar-coat the
possible departure of players from the club.
“The players were magnificent last season
and made great sacrifices and that will
never be forgotten.
“Now, we have to look forward and
everyone should be upfront and honest
about their intentions.”
Rangers CEO Charles Green added: “We are
meeting the PFA Scotland and their legal
advisers on Monday with a view to allaying
players’ concerns about the transfer of
contracts so the timing of these
announcements by players is hard to
understand.
“The transfer of contracts has already
happened and the club’s clear legal advice is
that players’ purported objection is
ineffective.
“Rangers would like to make it abundantly
clear to players, agents and the chairmen
and managers of other football clubs that
we will take whatever steps necessary to
challenge what we regard as a breach of
contract to protect the interests of our
club.”
My boss is Peter Principle on 23 June, 2012 at 13:27 said:
RANGERS manager Ally the shi*bag Mcmoist this afternoon released the following statement.
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Once again the ‘cheeky chappie’ mask slips and the real man is exposed. Threatening players who have already accepted a 75% pay cut for, as it turns out, nothing. The same guy who tried to jump ship to HMS Cardigan and had to crawl back to the chuckster when it sank without a trace.
The same guy who had ‘constructive’, ‘positive’, helpful’ meetings with Brian Kennedy, Bill Miller, Paul Murray & The bloo Knights. This is after he had daily meetings with Craig Whyte and had every confidence in him.
The same guy who used inappropriate language when talking about an Tribunal who had actually done them a favour.
What a guy!!!
Hello people, anyone else having trouble accessing Phil macs twitter??
McCoist is basically threatening the players now
Maybe Ally will just publish players names, addresses and telephone numbers in the interests of transparency.
He is an odious little sh!t…
petec
agree, we need wireless
HH
Paul67 et al
I don’t suppose any of the MSM in Scotland asked Ali McCoist who he is actually employed by, (and paid by?) at this particular moment.
And of course, because it is coming from management of RFCil we can believe every word. It’s not like they’ve ever lied in the past is it?
Sone Aluko is in a win win situation. If he stays, he gets paid, (by himself), if he goes he gets paid, (by someone else) and if he gets taken to court for breach of contract he`ll get sued for plenties, which he`ll have to award to himself. No brainer, shonnyboy, either way you shall have money in your pocket.
Waterloo @.2.35 BBC 2
*rainy Saturday afternoons*
Rod Steiger CSC
Paul67 et al
McCoist in shock outburst; “I demand to know the names of Rangers players!”
EKBhoy on 23 June, 2012 at 13:39 said
I think you are wrong about the threat in the Motherwell document.
My reading is that the document reckoned the loss would be roughly the same in both scenarios and that unless in each of these situations the shortfall could be bridged then there would be a threat of insolvency.
That is my reading. I liked the openness of the document. What do others think?
Angelus on 23 June, 2012 at 13:24 said:
Meanwhile over on MT Moron…
Celtic remember this when you vote
Fluck sake, I’ve just wet myself.
hurtingribscsc.