News that Dundee United will vote against allocating a place in next season’s SPL to Sevco confirms what we suggested yesterday, that sentiment has swung against the notion. Motherwell’s innovative idea of allowing fans (who have already expressed overwhelming opposition to the idea) a vote is further evidence that even hard-pressed clubs are prepared to make financially difficult decisions. Suggestions that the Motherwell board should grow a pair and take responsibility themselves have some merit.
Stewart Milne has denied BBC reports that Aberdeen have decided to vote against but I expect this is a matter of due process more than any genuine indecision.
There was a feeling this morning that matters could be brought to a head sooner than 4 July if enough clubs publicly declared against Sevco. This would suit Charles Green’s company as they would be able to prepare offers to Rangers players (who they are able to sign) knowing where they are likely to end up. If they are forced to wait until 4 July, Sevco will not know what squad requirements they will need for next season before making a decision on what Rangers players to offer employment to.
More than SPL football, Sevco need clarity. A rush to declare against them might seem harsh but it would be enormously beneficial rather than being forced to wait a further 12 days.
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MWD
It can’t be helped especially when they have been getting favours for years and surely you can understand that.
Estadio Nacional –
Sir David Murray.
“The journalists for the cheap press are uneasily aware that nobody cares much about what they say. Hence their sad conviction that they can say things any way they like, even if it means staging a man’s funeral for him just because he makes a few down-in-the-mouth remarks. Talk about getting the hearse before the horse.”
Clive James
‘Meeting Myself Coming Back’ is on Radio 4 on Saturdays at 8pm
SonsOfErin on 23 June, 2012 at 10:55 said:
They are desperate men …… It really is all quite embarrassing ……. One of those ” whit ur wae gonnae ” moments …….”oh, mammy daddy”
No Huns of any variety playing professional football in Scotland next season.
Simple
wee Wullie will have paid with coins he got busking near the underground; at least he’s not walked away.
They’ve extended their season ticket deadline…as they don’t know what league they’ll be in…nearly choked on the steak slice there.
Good morning, CQN …
Is the blog normally this good on a Saturday morning … ?
In between cups of coffee and feeding the weans I have been dipping in and out and looking for an opportunity to chip in … but it’s been hard, what with EN’s (and others’) quest for the best breakfast roll, Bournesoup’s gag about Moses and the wilderness, through ‘ןןǝqdɯɐɔ ˙pǝsoɥ ɔɟᴚ – z ʍoᴚ ‘s progress with his checklist, RobertTressell ‘s growing hunch that we may never see der hun again, all the way to chairboy’s deep thoughts on the looming significance of Harry Hood.
An outstanding start to the weekend …
Hail hail
SonsOfErin on 23 June, 2012 at 10:55 said:
henr1k – The SFA have no rules or governance which allows a new club to enter the lower division.
C’mon matey they make the rules up as they go along.
Check this tweet out and this guy is usually on the money.
@fritzagrandold: @ETimsNet These discussions are taking place and have been for ages, I know this for sure. SFA will force it through if necessary.
Steviebhoy the Jerk is hilarious but it didn’t have Kathleen Turner in it.
And there is nothing funnier than Steve Martin trying to tell someone how to spell Dr. Huffenhurrr.
Comedy Gold.
I know he has made billions making boring middle of the road movies since but he was capable of brilliance.
MWD That appealed to my sense of humour, very funny.
roy croppie on 23 June, 2012 Hately was the the one who bemoaned the fact that when in the England squad, Bobby Robson kept calling him ‘Tony’ as that was his da’s name. How these tools get anywhere near our first class media is beyond me!
SFFS re: McCabe, agree 100%. Decent player who wouldn’t get anywhere near our midfield at the moment, and who I believe is no better than some of the young guys who have blessed our 1st team thus far.
brimmer
“When things aren’t too clever I always wish I was still at Rangers”
(Former Rangers defender Jimmy Nicholl, 1997)
The Spirit of Arthur Lee 10:57
Ha, if I got paid I would be tax dodging, getting paid is a bit of an issue the now. Hope all is well there.
EN
EN
Get MWD to set up a donation page for ye.
Hope you get it sorted out mucker
A Lee.
On 4th July its only the application to the SPL that is being considered – when this fails then they would have to make an application to the SFL who no doubt have their own rules. The question is on what basis would a new club have any entitlement to enter Div 1 of the SFL – I would suggest none – Div 3 here they come
Why would anyone who had a season ticket for the former Rangers not have cancelled their direct debit? Are they even more stupid than we have always though?
Why would you pay any of them money without knowing what is going to happen? Why take the chance on paying out and ending up with nothing? Would you trust any of this mob with your cash?
If the Thistle fans are anything to go by, Div1 fans feel as strongly as SPL fans do. And they’ve seen what fan power can do.
I don’t see how they can be allowed into SFL1 without a vote and can’t see them winning a vote there. They can’t be ‘relegated’ to Div 1 without first being voted into SPL.
They are deader than I dared to believe.
Gordon J
The words thick and hun come to mind
henr1k – Nothing would surprise me. Their desire to be reunited with rangers, in any form, is almost touching. Like a man who lost a cherished partner, and finds her tantalising shadow in a flawed relica which he must have.
VertigoCSC
So it’s not Steve Martin that make s the film it’s Kathleen Turner????
Fair Do’s….
Miss Amelmahey is funnier :)
Expert in the ‘ finger sucking’ dep’t
Hail Hail
Gordon J
‘Are they even more stupid than we have always thought?’
Yep!
brimmer
Cricket Quick News
Today Ireland play Australia in a One Day International in Belfast (yes NI) is this another example of a united Ireland in sport.
come on you bhoys in green
anyway off to umpire a local league game here in North staffs this afternoon – hopefully we will get a decent amount of play before the rain appears about 5pm.
Gordon_J
First hand evidence exists that their supporters are cancelling Direct Debits, by the bushel.
It’s unlikely to be reported in MSM when the are trying to raise the dead.
Some of their loyals believe the money is ring fenced where creditors or Craig Whyte can’t get at it.
Big G on 23 June, 2012 at 09:32 said:
Anyone with half a brain at Rangers as was would know that SFL3 is a smart move. Putting a winning team on the park at low cost is both a business and football winning formula.
If they came out and said it was the path to atonement and went there voluntarily rather than with snide GIRUYs they would discover that moral ground is a good place to stand, might even come to appreciate its benefits or soul and purse. Their problem is a) lacking the half brain b) the SFA/SPL trying to keep their absence as short as possible for commercial reasons rather than accepting that long term commercial considerations that are based on integrity are more secured ground than a short term fix..
This late attempt by SFA/SPL/SFL to cobble together a deal is too late to have the desired effect of giving sporting integrity its place. The contamination has not been addressed and the poor SPL2 supporters are going to know what it is like to play uphill for a season, for if the idea of SPL2 is that Newco will only be away for a season then that objective totally undemines the integrity of SPL2. It will be SPL1 in 2010 all over again, just with less supporters pissed off but just as pissed off.
Not only that it makes Sky the real bad guys in the eyes of Scottish Football supporters and I’ll be cancelling my subscription. (I did before but they came back with a deal that gave me it for next to nothing, but Sky are now part of the integrity problem, which is why the idea for SPLTV has now to be pursued.
I find the failure of Doncaster Regan and others to appreciate this Humpty is beyond repair disappointing. The only advantage a demotion to SPL2 would have is that less supporters will turn their backs on their clubs than if it was SPL1 Newco entered but our game will be forever soured by Sky.
PS Jobo if you are reading, fin weather stopped my visit Darn Sarf, flooding north of Carlisle !!!
Walter’s back from Holiday. Hurah !
And to receive an honary degree at Glasgow Caledonian University, for, wait for it, steady…………..sporting achievements.
Cough, splutter, where’s Hector.
It is not reported if Walter will appear in person to collect it or if Chico Green (really loving this guy) has put a claim on it as the rightful heir of Deadco..
I don’t know anything about this university but given that they are handing out degrees for sporting “achievements” I do wonder if,when they hand out exam papers to their students, they also hand out the answers.
Is Paul 67 also being honoured for blogging achievements ? It would be good for Walter and our Paul to have a nice long conversation about EBTs over a glass of sherry in the setting of academia. How dignified..
hen1rik
It’s not the opinion that makes me laugh. It’s the ever changing opinion that is hilarious. Opinion based on nothing but hearsay and assumptions.
Every time a factual piece of information comes out (100% in favour of No to Newco) we see the mood of the blog change as the blog to a man/women celebrate. Then a wee bit of bad news comes to the fore, usually in the form of apparent governing bodies attempts to manipulate the situation, some of our number delve into the depths of despair. Yet time and time again whatever attempts and lengths our governing bodies go to doors are being slammed in their faces almost daily.
There never has been a rule or article of association of the SFA/SPL/SFL that could or can allow a member (in this case x-member) club be demoted from the SPL to the SFL. For such a situation to occurr it will take gerrymeandering of epic proportions to allow a club with no history, no accounts, a club who have never played a game, a club with no players join either the SPL or the SFL’s premier division. We are 6 weeks away to the day from the start of the new league season. The SPL vote does not take place until the Wednesday the 4th of July and that already appears to be dead in the water. The SFL would then need to organise a meeting, put forward a proposal and vote on changing its own rules, just as the Neil Doncaster) has attempted to do. All in order to allow its member clubs to then arrange a meeting to vote on a yet to be confirmed proposal to accept a new company , a new company that is not yet a member of the SFA and currently unable to meet membership requirements for any of the 3 governing bodies join it’s league setup in its top division.
It’s not going to happen.
Any attempt to gerrymeander a new SFA setup comprising both the SPL and SFL setups who have not been able to agree on change for years is laughable.
My advice. Keep Calm. Let the situation play out and enjoy the sound of more doors slamming in the face of SEVCO.
MWD
Anecdotal thoughts from my mailbox —-
Father and son Morton supporters —– ” they can stick it ”
PTFC fan —– ” they/ their Refs / their media cheated the likes of us for years. I say no . If it happens then I am done with Scottish football “
Good morning fellow Celts blues skies over Hampshire now
All those guys you see at games around the country… Never say much, always there in all weather. Nod to those around when they take their seat polite, courteous, never give or take offence. Stand and applaud when their team scores, also appreciate and sometimes applaud a good goal or move, or individual skill from opponents.
They are at every ground in Scotland. They love football. They normally don’t get involved in politics or angry debate. However, they will have strong views and opinions, that they may share from time to time with close family and friends over a beer or a nice wee dram.
They don’t expect much from their investment, just watching players do things with a ball the can no longer do, or once dreamed of doing. They also expect honesty and a level playing field. They haven’t being getting that for a long time.
They have had enough and their voices are being heard.
Times are a changing
HH
From reading back, I agree Tony Mowbray is a good man. However he was a dreadful Celtic manager.
Mogga’s team threw away leads at Tannadice, Tynecastle, Pittodrie and Falkirk.
They lost at Kilmarnock.
They lost 4-0 at St Mirren.
Yes, he suffered horrible refereeing decisions in each game against our ex rivals, but their cheating doesn’t hide the fact he wasn’t up to the job.
bournesouprecipe,
I certainly wouldn’t trust any of them to hold cash and pass it on later. A look at the track records of any of those involved is enough.
The tabloid scenario being touted of new club being in Division 1, is the least likely of three possible outcomes.
Div 3 CSC
Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. Champions. C’mon Wee Oscar. on 23 June, 2012 at 11:22 said:
LoL, ok I’m calm the Missus has just given me my tabs again ha ha.
Gordon_J @ 11.30
Indeed
If sevco ‘drop’ down 1 level, does that make them 7ft under?
It was great to see ole Sammi score at the Euros, the first Celt since his Henrik Larsson.
Mowbray’s side were victim of so called offsides against Falkirk for a start,I remember Samaras I think right at the death scoring a perfectly good goal given offside.
I’m not going to go into it every one but that’s why it was the season of honest mistakes,get each of those games you mention and place them against Tony Bananas honest mistakes article.
As for the Killie game,I believe he didn’t have a choice not to throw in all of our new sign8ngs that game.
I’m not saying Mowbray was great but analyse the games and there is in mist cases mitigation.
What’s to stop them taking over a team in one of the lower divisions, sticking the myth in as chairman, renaming said club and giving out a rallying call to Orcs everywhere?
…the real joke is for a fraction of what the THE defunct klub have been found out for…..that mob should be banned sine die…..period.
Never mind Div 3.
Just in from the shops and seen the back page of the DR. (No I don’t buy it)
Couldn’t stop myself laughing. The fact that they talk of ‘Rangers’ being in the First Division for a start.They really do treat their readers, and the rest of Scotland, in contempt. They keep talking of Rangers Why mention ‘Rangers’at all?
Because they have to sell newspapers – today. And next week it will be another ‘good news’ story about ‘Rangers’, then another and another until the truth dawns on the Hun masses. Rangers, 1872, is dead. The new club that replaced them is not ”Rangers’.Even though the DR tells them it is.
Maybe we should heve a bet on when that day arrives. I’ll get in first. I’ll opt for…..let’s see. 15th August 2016
I’ll almost be as happy when Traynor and Jackson go than I am at the moment.
Shame about Traynor….he used to be a journalist.