“The appeal is dismissed.” With those words at the Supreme Court in London at 9:52 this morning, Rangers tax cheating was established as fact. The charlatans who manipulated Scottish football fans were shown to be the disgrace they are.
Rangers made unlawful payments, totalling many millions of pounds, to footballers, who, by the club’s own admission in court, they would have been unable to recruit if they had to pay tax and National Insurance contributions for.
They lied to HMRC.
They also hid documents from HMRC, which only came to light during a City of London Police raid on Ibrox.
They hid documents from the SPL and SFA, failing to honestly register dozens of players.
They cheated the tax man.
They cheated the welfare state, the NHS, the police, councils, schools. They cheated the Army and other services.
The SPL’s (now called Scottish Professional Football League) Commission into these matters must now be set aside. It was conducted on the assumption that Rangers acted legally. Lord Nimmo Smith was clear that his conclusions were predicated on this point. A fresh commission is required, we cannot just allow the biggest cheats in British sporting history wander off into the distance.
The SFA has failed to call Sir David Murray to account, or the other directors of Rangers, who had explicit responsibility to ensure the club acted within the laws of the land and within the rules of football, both of which it failed to do.
Murray should be sine died. God knows, I cherish every moment Dave King controls things at Ibrox, but he was a director of Rangers with legal responsibility for its actions. They should all be censured.
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* Farewell to The Stone Roses;
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THOMTHETIM
Well that being the case –
Now is not the time to attack. Keep your powder dry until something bigger than the biggest thing ever proven is proven.
There. Hope that helps. :-@)))
On a serious note. This should always have been a matter for all teams and fans across the board and efforts should have been made to engage and organise via official channels between the respective supporters clubs, associations and trust. Liking one another was never the issue. Stopping, outing and punishing organised cheating and corruption should have superceded supporter likes and dislikes of one another years ago as you have said.
MWD
In the light of the SFA’s Statement I think it was correct for Celtic’s Statement to focus on the SPL Commission.
In light of old evidence that wasn’t presented, new evidence that has come to light and the Supreme Court ruling, think the process that Auldheid outlined was the correct approach.
Very disappointed by the Aberdeen’s Board reaction, or lack of it, as some had pointed out, they were paramount in the decision that saw Sevco Scotland start life in the fourth tier.
It looks very much like the threat of a Supporters Season ticket boycott was the catalyst for this stance.
With no such threat they seem content to allow their Club and Supporters to be cheated.
It seems sad to me that no prominent Scot is prepared to call out the Scottish Football Authorities on their lack of Ethics and Leadership.
This is supposed to be our National Sport…
It’s all rather squalid…
Hail Hail
CHAIRBHOY:
I thought Hearts were the first to come out against a new Rangers being allowed to play in the SPL.
CHAIRBHOY
There you have it a culture of backroom deals and secret handshakes for those privy to the gravy chain.
The biggest ever sporting fraud on the islands and not one person willing to call it out and ask the questions needing asked.
What does it say about Scottish politics and life let alone Scottish football??
Sad as you say.
No More Heroes Anymore
We’ll fly flag for Rangers connection when we face Celtic, says Linfield boss David Healy – nice man is our David.
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/463147/strip-titles-trends-twitter-world-reacts-news-rangers-broke-tax-laws/
At least one paper calling it out..
Starry Plough
Whatever happened to Leon Trotsky?
By they’r statement the SFA are condoning, tax evasion, cheating, and lies, as far as one of the organisers in the running of our game (the SFA) is concerned they do not care about what the law of the land has done by finding one of its clubs guilty of cheating on tax returns and payments , and also breaking the rules of our game here in Scotland, they are totally 100% wrong on this one.
I await for an announcement from the SPFL before I put my thoughts on all that went on yesterday, CFC have had they’r say on how they feel and like myself await to hear what action the SPFL will take (if any) I have no doubt in my mind that the SFA statement was premeditated months ago and as usual it’s amateur night over at the big red brick lodge at mount Florida as someone said yesterday, they’r last president Campbell Oglevie was an EBT participant to the total price of £90,000 , we know that’s just a case of brothers covering for a brother, we can say that in the social media but its ignored elsewhere by the leaders of the MSM Cabal.
Every supporter in Scotland should be up in arms over this statement from the SFA they have no right to treat us all like members of a bowling club, questions must be asked we need answers,all clubs in Scotland have AGMs and if the statement from the SPFL is along the same lines as the rediculess one put out by the SFA then every club in the country should hold an extra ordinary meeting and the boards take guidance from they’r fans.
To just let this slide and be treated like an idiot, then all I can say is, Scotlands club football fans you had the chance to clean up our game, and you failed, BADLY.
In light of the SFA statement.
Unless there is unity amongst the fans all clubs.
Then a tumultuous rebellious uprising by them .
Nothing is going to happen ,and justice will not be served.
The boards of the football clubs will do nothing ,unless they are disturbed by their own fans.
Stage 1.
Get a small organised committee of Celtic fans ,who have the expertise and desire to start a campaign for Sporting Integrity.
Then get that committe to help others clubs fans organise a similar committee amongst their own support.
Then unify these fans ,agree on a way forward ,and start the rebellion.
TT
https://twitter.com/owenmurphy316/status/882582327536361472
http://www.eatsleepsport.com/celtic/boyata-blow-for-hoops-2293578.html#/.WV3zF8bTVJ8
DAVIDOPOULOS
I thought you were wan of they young hipster types:))
My friends in Celtic,
I missed most of the online chat on here due to pesky work. Subsequently I apologise if i’m going over old ground.
In laymans speak, the situation is very clear to me. By 5 votes to 0 the highest court in the land has found the original huns guilty of cheating.
History must reflect that.
Any titles or trophies must be struck from the records.
Hail, Hail.
Just a reminder.
Current SPFL board members :-
Elected to serve on the 2016/17 SPFL Board – alongside SPFL Chief Executive Neil Doncaster, SPFL Chairman Ralph Topping and independent non-executive director Karyn McCluskey – were:
Ladbrokes Premiership representatives: Peter Lawwell (Celtic), Ann Budge (Heart of Midlothian) and Ian Maxwell (Partick Thistle)
Ladbrokes Championship representatives: Leeann Dempster (Hibernian) and Eric Drysdale (Raith Rovers)
Ladbrokes League 1 and League 2 representative: Ken Ferguson (Brechin City)
MWD
starry plough
Oh, I just heard an indy electro remix of that song in a cold press juice cafe the other week…
DAVIDOPOULOS
With a vegan brioche I hope:))
Get this I was online look for a jazzy wee beanie to bring my locks under control when I found a really nice made one at a good price only to find it was vegan:)))
I kd you not:))
“item description: mens or boys crocheted skullcap style hat in basic black. it was made using a vegan friendly acrylic yarn!”
Whoddathunkit…
Old fashioned letter despatched to Paradise……….
Hundump next.
STARRY PLOUGH
That would be my fava-rite beanie…
Auldheid. Wiseheid.
HH.
Correct me if I’m wrong but Craig whyte is banned from Scottish football having been convicted of what exactly and look at the ibrox directors
Better than glibby looking at everyone at the same time I suppose
#stripthetitles
Hearts, Dundee United and Hibernian, in that order, were the first clubs to declare their opposition to Sevco, following Rangers going into liquidation, being allowed to compete in the SPL. Those clubs were followed by Aberdeen, St Johnstone and Inverness Caledonian Thistle, all on the same day, publically declaring their voting intent.
The remaining SPL clubs kept their intent more in-house at the time.
………and as for Shortie……..
I’m quite sure the SFA have little “appetite” for revisiting their self-perpetuated, partial, mono-culture omni-shambles…….
in much the same way that Mr Trumpf has little appetite for sharing his taxes…..
Guff!
See this painting slogans on walls (guilty in the past).
One would think that if they had any spare paint about the place they would have done up the lavvies a bit.
No that mob, lets go and paint slogans in the away dressing room , wonder if they got the face painter in to do it.
Stoopid Zoomers.
H.H
Just in case you missed it and need a laugh this morning
@BigDaddyPedro67: Think am heading tae bed soon, comrades, so I’ll leave yae wae this…. https://t.co/nHxX1Hhkmr
MWD
Morning all
Not been on for a while. Cannot get worked up about pre-season friendlies and a big, annoying, work related issue kept me off yesterday.
I do sometimes wonder what moral universe I am in though. When I read the outcome of the court case yesterday I had assumed in my naivete that the case for title stripping had become so plainly obvious that it would no longer be an issue [ I actually thought it was before] but instead it would appear that it is not even an issue with the powers that be whilst the Huns cannot for the most past part still do not see that their club did anything wrong- morally far less legally. Their collective stupid is not really surprising but it is still repulsive.
As for the authorities and the MSM the suspicion is that there is a lot to hide – not just at the SFA/SPFL but amongst many clubs. It reeks of corruption throughout the game.
I now have to return to work so have not made the most coherent posting ever but I remain as baffled as ever that what should be a no brainer- and would happen in every other sport- seems to be unlikely to happen in mine
Jimbo67
Why would you NOT strip titles and cups that were won illegally?
And let’s not forget the Tories and New Labours financially corrupt committees aimed at negating building regs to the benefit of MPs and their multi millionaire pals.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/05/grenfell-fire-public-inquiry-stitch-up-red-tape-regulation-policy-exchange
MWD
Bada Bing
Because you are a Hun and your hands are just as dirty as David Murray’s.
MWD
Bada Bing @9:44
Liked Erin go bragh’s reply about Sevco trying to get semi-pro Progrès turfed out of Europe because one of their part-time players had an asthma attack!
Total aerosols!
I think it was john mcconville, after the first tribunal, said never under estimate the cleverness of judges. The 2-1 verdict allowed the process to move up to the courts, thereby allowing a positive verdict to become a legal judgement, as it did yesterday, but at the same time allowed the dissenting judge the opportunity to establish what the lords really though. She did not miss!!
Now let’s look at LNS. It would seem that by adding the “no sporting advantage” bit he has made it impossible for the SPFL to turn a blind eye to yesterday’s judgement. Surely it will be impossible for for the SPFL not to put title stripping at the top of the agenda and could this have been LNS intention all along?
They’ve got away with maintaining they are the same club.
There will be no stripping of titles.
And Celtic will do and say nothing that will change or challenge that.
Great to see Celtic speak out. Have to agree with the comments so far: need other clubs to speak up, need all supporters to step forward, and we need this government( Scottish) to speak up, they’ve been quick enough to act before, with the iniquitous OBaF bill. On a personal note, no comment then they lose this supporter. It’s been hard enough to continue support because of OBaF, but final straw for me. They were always a means to an end( independent, socialist Scotland), but enoughs enough.
And as for the SFA announcement – could they have saved words by just saying “there is no legal grounds in which we can discipline a died club who is no longer a member”. Oh no that would kill the same club myth!
e-tims is rather good today……….
MWD- If it was my club who cheated their way to titles, I wouldn’t want them if they weren’t won fairly
#stripthetitles
https://johnjamessite.com/author/sitonfence/
QF on 6TH JULY 2017 10:19 AM
I think it was john mcconville, after the first tribunal, said never under estimate the cleverness of judges. The 2-1 verdict allowed the process to move up to the courts, thereby allowing a positive verdict to become a legal judgement, as it did yesterday, but at the same time allowed the dissenting judge the opportunity to establish what the lords really though. She did not miss!!
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Don’t know who said it, but the notion that the three tribunal members acted together to engineer this result is bullshit. You’d really have to be in thrall to the legal system to think along those lines.
Two of the tribunal members got it wrong. One got it right.
There was nothing stopping two, or even all three, getting it right.
And if the FTT tribunal was so dedicated to seeing that right was done why did it allow the case to be heard in private?