Some perspective first. Ronny Deila, manager of Norwegian champions Stromsgodset, is not about to be appointed Celtic manager. He does, meet the criteria, unlike the various one-season wonders cast aside from the English Premier League. I believe there are two other strong candidates, Ronny has no pre-eminence at this stage, but unlike the various ‘favourites’ who have appeared in recent times, at least he is a genuine possibility.
Stefan Johansen worked under Ronny immediately before joining Celtic, which gave club scouts an insight into the coach’s style of play. Stromsgodset are predominantly an attacking team, who press high up the field and pass quickly.
His players are dedicated athletes or they don’t remain his players for very long. He is also one of the game’s intellectuals, a former teacher – and what I’ve been asking for since Neil resigned – a student of the game. His attitude to his own role is one of continual professional development.
Ronny has a track record of improving players and improving teams. He is not a brand name, nor a shareholder’s whim. He is not being considered because he’s ‘pals with Peter and out of a job’.
Please bear in mind………..
Ronny Deila is only one of three genuine contenders Celtic are considering at the moment but all three match the same criteria. They are intelligent, technically adept, progressive, winners. Which has made me more excited than any of the names suggested so far.
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My best guess.
All our top targets have baulked at the job due to a lack of transfer funds and the prospect of having your best players sold from under you.
We are well down our list now to a cheap option who won’t ask for any money to buy players and will not object to being told to sell.
In the midst of all the clamour about this guys credentials maybe someone could answer me this. If our “model” is to scour Europe and beyond for good young talent, develop them and sell them on, why would we hire a manager who hasn’t played or coached outside of one country and is unlikely to have any real knowledge of players not from Norway.
If he gets the job in the weeks to come we will be sold a lot of flarn about youth development and recruitment models but we heard it all before.
If any of this was true Roy Keane would never even have been considered for the job.
He was however which shows this possible appointment up for what it is.
The cheap option.
Zbyszek
A team. Yes. The key component in being able to punch above your weight in my opinion. Reference the Lisbon lions. Celtic fans want the last 16 in CL as a measure of success. Without unsustainable spending, when you consider the wealth of the opposition, it is a tough ambition. Even with spending large amounts, it is tough. So ultimately you need a manager with an eye for a player who will also be a good team player. Strachan was forever extolling the virtue of being a good team mate.
Looking at the current squad, I see Griffiths as that type of player, and that’s why he will do well for us in my opinion. I question Derk? For the same reasons, I still have hope for Pukki. He looks like a team player as well as having talent.
Rightly or wrongly, I harboured some reservations about Roy Keane in that respect. Would he foster a good team spirit or would his personality not lend itself to such harmony? Not sure. The fact this guy has gone 46 home games without league defeat suggests he has the quality we seek.
My opinion of course.
GCT
Thanks. A bonus in my opinion.
Yawn
Depressing
Boring
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GCT
From your memory, what’s the view like from the main stand upper section? Looks ok on the online seat view, ( just slightly left of centre). It’s an area I’ve never been in very much but thinking if taking a seat there. £ 530 or something which I thought seemed ok for main stand.
Michael
My guess is NONE of the ” top targets” have turned us down for those reasons, including Keane. He looks to be happy to have 2 part time jobs for now. If indeed he does think he will ever have a tilt at CL football with a club who splash the cash, I.e. Man City, Chelsea, he’s mistaken.
I suspect he didn’t fancy the SPL drudgery
twists n turns –
It’s a fantastic view, mainly because it is surrounded on 3 sides by the massive North, Jock Stein and Lisbon Lions stands and you really get a feel for the awesome bowl-like atmosphere as it almost embraces you. A full house at night from that seat will be quite awesome I can tell you.The slope is not as steep as other parts of the stadium but you’ll still have a perfect view.
twists n turns –
I tried to buy tickets for the Upper Main Stand as my first choice, but couldn’t get 3 seats together, so got into the Front Main Stand instead.
GCT
Yes I noticed there were few seats together. Front main looks ok as long as you are not too low ? I like to be higher up. Just my preference. I’m thinking about North Stand upper too. Will decide over next week and make my choice.
Good Morning Timland.
Michael Collins….flarn,just googled the bugger,will
endeavour to slip it in sometime today in a effort to
make myself look like a smart erse…..off oot tae the
coal face, have a great day cqn.
GCT
Just noticed your first response. Thanks. Main stand upper looks fav then.
My big bugbear will be the number of Sunday games. Likely I’ll have a ticket lying collecting dust for a lot of the season. Hate Sunday games.
twists and turns
My question is why was Keane considered at all if Deila is the type of manager we are looking for.
Martin O’Neill seemed to think we got as far as discussing terms. Is our second greatest manager of all time lying? I don’t think so.
I’ve heard it said today that it was a favour by DD to get Keane into the public spotlight and highlight his availability but this smacks of reaching for a theory when the truth is much more obvious.
He was offered the job, we got as far as discussing terms as MON said and he walked away because of something in the nuts and bolts, in my opinion the transfer budget.
On 29th May Celtic released a statement refuting the notion that Keane had been offered the job but instead was in discussions with several excellent candidates.
Fast forward a week and PL admits, through this website. that Deila is one that we are considering but given that his club, his agent and the man himself have no knowledge of any discussions with Celtic then who were the “excellent candidates” and can we presume that they either turned down the job or were not so “excellent” after all.
twists n turns –
I didn’t like the North Stand Upper the couple of times I was up there, because of the reasons I mentioned. You’re looking across and over the top of the Main Stand. It diminishes the atmosphere. I hope one day the club builds the Main Stand up to the same level as the other three stands.
To me, the stadium has an unfinished look about it until that is done. It will probably take a move to England to get that done.
Personally I’ll wait until we get our new manager/coach in place but for anyone who is interested I tried to get some info on the Norwegian Premier League, the clubs don’t tend to spend much money on transfers in. There seems to be a lot of players coming or going on loans from one club to another, some seem to have reasonable relationships with EPL clubs re getting loan players for their young and developing signings. There is a relatively high proportion of African players in the League. Stromsgodset don’t appear to have moved too many in or out in the past three years that I can find out about, our own Johansen appears to be the best. They have a very strong home record and a high proportion of their away defeats have been by a single goal.
All in all, difficult to say how this fellow will go, if he gets the gig he will undoubtedly be dealing with the best group of players that he has worked with to date. An early indication would be pre-season where we have been Lilian Gish for the past few years.
AR
Michael
How do you define excellent candidates?
I’d say Malky, Steve Clarke David Moyes and Roy Keane are all different types of characters and would bring differing strengths and weaknesses but of those, who could be considered an excellent candidate? From those 4, I’d rate Roy as my least preferred, but I’m sure others would have him as their favourite.
My knowledge of Deila is limited so all I have to go on is his record and that seems as good as any of the above , but again, is a very subjective opinion.
You may well be correct in your assumptions, but for me, I’m quite excited by the thought of this appointment. The reality of the situation is that if he is aware of his budget and has convinced the board that he can do a job, then it’s potentially a good appointment.
Hopefully we will both be happy in a few months time.
Gold Coast Tom
06:42 on 5 June, 2014
twists n turns –
I didn’t like the North Stand Upper the couple of times I was up there, because of the reasons I mentioned. You’re looking across and over the top of the Main Stand. It diminishes the atmosphere. I hope one day the club builds the Main Stand up to the same level as the other three stands.
To me, the stadium has an unfinished look about it until that is done. It will probably take a move to England to get that done.
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If given the Green Light, the Main Stand would be transformed almost instantly. The demand would be remarkable, even if they bumped it up to 80,000, I think there would be an actual waiting list.
Without even looking at the Independence side of things, that rivalry between a Scottish and English team would make Every Celtic game, a must see game.
I’d much rather we helped bring the Scottish game back to Life though, and remain underdogs on the European/World scene. The game howevah is so rigged, it is unbelievable.
Champions League – The Champions from each League, noone else.
I really lost so much interest in the Champions League when Juve were allowed to do what they did at Celtic Park, how many others have been disaffected similarly? I think there are so many.
Michael Collins
06:37 on
5 June, 2014
I totally agree, everything we know about DD tells us this was a serious intervention, PL and the board may have been following a strategy, but the big maverick gambling billionaire had a shot at getting Keane, egos and playing semantics prevent the truth being known, Keane may well reveal all in a CQN book ))))))
Celtic back on strategy and by all accounts it looks like Ronni from Norway, the big question fitba wise is can the strategy deliver a manager capable of C/L group stages with diminishing levels of wages and transfer fees available for players
We had to get away as far as possible from the previous situation to have a manager who required 24hr protection, was not good for the image of the club or the position of Celtic FC manager……………..i am fully aware Neil is not to blame!!
SMSM who have no previous relationship with new manager
Following on from the two points above, Celtic have to do a lot more serious intervention with the MSM to protect its employees, particularly our next Managerial project, it is unacceptable what he will be subjected to and all editors should be getting warned
Looking forward to having a coach who concentrates solely on the football operation, as long as he commands respect and control over the first team squad thats good enough for me, we will all judge for ourselves his team when it appears on the pitch
twist and turns
I certainly was not in favour of Keane as our manager and I struggled to think of one attribute he possesses which would make him suitable. None of the other excite me much. Maybe Steve Clark due to his coaching credentials.
I was looking for us to go after a player with genuine experience as a player and a manager or both of football across several different countries with the potential to identify good players before other cashed up clubs do.
I liked the thought of Michael Laudrup and also think we should have looked at an old nemesis, Murat Yakin.
Both of these would have been excellent candidates but neither would have come cheap.
They may even have demanded a salary as high as our CEO, perish the thought.
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RONNY Deila has emerged from out of left field and directly into pole position to fill Celtic’s managerial vacancy.
The 38-year-old head coach of Norwegian champions Stromsgodset could even be installed as Neil Lennon’s successor by the end of this week, after club sources confirmed he had been elevated to the top of their short-list of candidates.
Largely unheralded outside his homeland, Deila is regarded as the brightest coaching talent in Norway, where his style of management has been compared to that of the highly regarded Borussia Dortmund coach Jurgen Klopp.
Deila is under contract to Stromsgodset until 2016, having signed a new deal last year after leading the Drammen-based club to only the second Norwegian title win in their 107-year history. He turned down an offer to take charge of Swedish champions Malmo earlier this year.
Stromsgodset chairman Tom Saxegaard is hopeful he can fend off the latest advance for the man who has been his manager since he retired as a player six years ago.
“We are going to play in the Champions League this year and, obviously, we want to keep him,” said Saxegaard. “He’s our manager and is under contract with us for two-and-a-half-years. We really think he can get to the very top.”
But Deila, who has never worked outside Norway either
as a player or coach, is understood to have informed Stromsgodset that he wishes to accept the opportunity at Celtic.
Confronted by local reporters in Tromso yesterday, where he was preparing his side for a Norwegian Cup tie against second-tier side Tromsdalen last night, Deila refused to discuss Celtic’s interest.
“I will not talk about that stuff now,” said Deila. “I have to wait for a few hours. I hope you understand it.”
Celtic first became aware of Deila while they were scouting his Stromsgodset side ahead of their £2 million purchase of Norwegian international midfielder Stefan Johansen in January. The Scottish champions continued to monitor Deila and have now identified him as an ideal candidate to become their new head coach.
“Ronny Deila is both highly rated and increasingly sought-after,” said a Celtic source. “He is a modern coach who encourages his team to play attractive, attacking football. The board believe he could fit the bill for Celtic going forward.”
While Celtic still have “another couple” of potential candidates under consideration, the source confirmed that Deila had moved to the front of the queue.
It marks a dramatic switch in focus after Celtic had appeared poised to secure the services of their former player Roy Keane for the job. When he dramatically withdrew his candidacy on Monday morning, preferring to remain as assistant to Republic of Ireland boss Martin O’Neill, the currently out-of-work trio of former English Premier League managers Steve Clarke, Owen Coyle and Malky Mackay moved to the top of the bookmakers’ betting market.
But it now seems Celtic’s major shareholder Dermot Desmond and chief executive Peter Lawwell are prepared to go down a less conventional route.
They are keen to have their new man in place as quickly as possible to give him time to prepare for their Champions League qualifying campaign which begins on 15 or 16 July. Coincedentally, Celtic could face Stromsgodset in those qualifiers.
Speaking outside Celtic Park yesterday morning, Lawwell declined to comment on any individuals but expressed his hope the club were approaching a conclusion in the recruitment process. He said: “There is nothing more we can say, we are still working on it. But, hopefully, within the next few days, or certainly within the next week, we might have something to say.
“We are still working on the same number [of candidates]. We are talking to a lot of people and hopefully we will get the right guy soon.
“We have met a few of the guys and it’s been good. We have enjoyed the process and there have been a lot of great candidates.”
Good morning friends from an East Kilbride that’s currently being soaked to the skin/ground from the endless supply of grey clouds overhead.
Petec
Can the Scottish game ever be resuscitated?. Only if there is global change, and if you look at the figureheads, Platinisation, Blatter, then look at those closer to home, Doncaster, Regan, Ogilvie, then major reform will be needed on a wide scale basis.
How can so many narrow minded and incompetent, perhaps corrupt would also be a suitable descriptor, be elected into such critical positions, then gain re election?
I don’t see any major change anywhere on the horizon that will assist Celtic.
Platini…….
Michael Collins
07:14 on 5 June, 2014
twist and turns
I certainly was not in favour of Keane as our manager and I struggled to think of one attribute he possesses which would make him suitable. None of the other excite me much. Maybe Steve Clark due to his coaching credentials.
I was looking for us to go after a player with genuine experience as a player and a manager or both of football across several different countries with the potential to identify good players before other cashed up clubs do.
I liked the thought of Michael Laudrup and also think we should have looked at an old nemesis, Murat Yakin.
Both of these would have been excellent candidates but neither would have come cheap.
They may even have demanded a salary as high as our CEO, perish the thought.
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If it is a Player/Manager, and I am delving into the realms of fantasy, but why not pose the question to…. Xavi Hernandez. The most remarkable player I have seen, IMO, even better than Messi.
twists n turns
07:19 on 5 June, 2014
Petec
Can the Scottish game ever be resuscitated?. Only if there is global change, and if you look at the figureheads, Platinisation, Blatter, then look at those closer to home, Doncaster, Regan, Ogilvie, then major reform will be needed on a wide scale basis.
How can so many narrow minded and incompetent, perhaps corrupt would also be a suitable descriptor, be elected into such critical positions, then gain re election?
I don’t see any major change anywhere on the horizon that will assist Celtic.
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Unfortunately, despite Celtic’s best efforts, as they are working hard to bring through as many youngsters as possible, so they can have good footballing careers, I dinnae think they can beat the Money Monster.
Those Brown Envelopes/Brogues huv tae go, but we both know, they wullnae. The Corruption is so rife through EVERY industry.
If it is this new Norwegian guy and he likes a 4-3-3, that’ll do for me. Just NJoi Glasgow Celtic expressing themselves, he has a really tough job taking over from Neil but having a workaholic front 3 of Forrest/Watt/Griffiths is mouthwatering.
I’ve always said that Neil is the Ultimate team player, what a good group he has left the incoming manager.
twists and turns –
I have a seat in the Main Stand. Back row (row 20) of the Front level in FS2 and the view is fantastic. I tried a pre-season game in the upper main stand and the view was even better although there did appear to be a wee bit less legroom between rows. Maybe folk were a bit smaller when it first opened?
Jobo
Thanks for that. Yes, seems like main stand upper has assumed favouritism. Put a fiver on it, though there may be a left field option thrown into the ring shortly, a previously unknown candidate, SW corner or the like:-)
So this fella likes the 433.
Just so happens that’s my preferred shape, flexible and dynamic.
A lot of posters on here play lip service to the strategy, ‘buying low and selling high is the way to go’ then give away their true dependency on throwing cash at a problem, war chests and swoops with a ‘but….’
For me a lot of the guff flung at the club by the MSM and trotted out here often about losing to players, not replacing like with like etc is hypocritical flannel.
Cast your mind back to Wanyama; an unknown given hardly any game time (and most of it in defence) with plenty of ‘raw’ ‘not celtic class’ type stuff in the press until NL was forced by injuries to play him in midfield and the rest is history. Biton is exactly a like for like replacement.
Forster on loan didn’t command his area, lacked presence, was quiet blah blah despite setting a new clean sheet record in possibly every season he’s been with us (certainly more than once). What is a like for like replacement of he did go for multiple times the fee we paid for him.
Ledley a free, matthews as well, lustig, watt, ambrose, vvd, hooper.
This is the strategy people. Why would we throw it out every time we realise it by selling on a player at profit after getting good service from him.
I’ll enjoy the talent when it’s here and look forward to the future gems coming in
So John Collins as assistant Ronny Deila. Interesting. I would have had JC more as a Director of Football role with a Peter Houston type experienced assistant.
Jobo
Mini will be re locating to your area next season. Waiting on my old man to get home from Tenerife to see where he will be next season.
He doesn’t like his new seat in north stand.
twists n turns –
only other potential drawback might be whether it’s important for you to be able to see the big screens as I’m not sure that’s possible certainly from the back rows. Eurochamps67 might be the best to advise on this as I think he’s in ES2. Also Main Standites can stay longer in the gazebo pre-match as it’s right outside ;-)
Work calling…..
I saw there was a teachers debate last night, I gave that one a wide miss,WOOFT.
bt –
hope she’s a good singer as there are only a few of us in FS2 ;-)
Right, must dash…
kdc
07:53 on
5 June, 2014
Logic based on realism.
It`ll never catch on.
Petec
I posted my tuppence worth above before reading yours, I’m with you.
I’d love to see watt and Griffiths together up top as well with commons/forrest/stokes or pukki
Reading back and the teacher thing surfaces again.
On a personal basis I have nothing but admiration for what teachers do. My teachers were really good despite me being a little turd a lot of times. My four children have spent something like 48 years in total at school and only one bad experience with a teacher, which was quickly sorted. Four of them prepared superbly for going out into the world. My two girls have been to Uni and my youngest bhoy is going this year.
Teachers provide the foundations for personal development and the civilized development of society.
However, there is one question that flummoxes me. Why do we need in service days when teachers have 15 weeks holiday?
The reason I ask is that they come at difficult times and usually require rearrangements: time of work etc.
petec
01:47 on
5 June, 2014
Just booked my room at the hotel for the Styx Pool tournie. Looks like there is only 4 single rooms left, although there are a few doubles for those that are feeling lucky (it is a bit of club by the looks of it), or taking partners.:D
I will be driving from Dumbarton, so I can give a lift there to the venue, and back for those that stay overnight.
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Morning folks
petec
I booked a room last night in the Victoria.
May i be so bold as to put myself forward to fill 1 of those spaces in your vehicle?
I am in Bonnybridge but if it helped i could make my way to a more suitable place to be picked up?
If you can help that would be brilliant!
Would need to have left Styx at 8pm to catch a train home and that seemed a bit early…..6 hours drinking……that’s only half time!
Had been looking forward to meeting you there but by the reports of your ability……i am not looking forward to perhaps having to play you!
Ronie
Yesterday I stated that I couldn’t understand the euphoria from some quarters about the potential appointment of Ronie. Some even compared him to Jock Stein, in that he came from a small minnow team to Celtic. My thoughts are that
Ronie is an unknown, from a small unknown team, in a small unknown league. On its own this certainly doesn’t mean he is a dummy, but it certainly doesn’t indicate he is a messiah either.
His record of success seems to be that he once won a title in Norway with a minnow team, I don’t think that Norway has any particularly big teams, (certainly not as big as Celtic anyway,) and I question if one solitary league title win in Norway is enough to merit the adulation and excitement that his potential appointment is generating.
Then his new fans, most of whom , had never heard of him until yesterday, tell us that he is a scholar of the game, I wonder how many modern managers aren’t nowadays and I sincerely hope he isn’t scholarly in the Craig Brown and Andy Roxburgh mould, who I blame for starting the decline of the modern day Scotland international side to the lowest standards in decades.
Ronies players are all athletes they tell me,. It suggests that the Celtic fitness coaches and the fitness regime and fitness systems at a 50 million pounds a year club like Celtic were not on a par with a Nowegian minnows side. Sorry but personally I doubt that our current fitness team with the financial advantages that they have, are all incompetents and I would be disappointed and surprised if the fitness level of the current Celtic side could be significantly improved enough to make them significantly better.
Ronie plays 4-3-3 I hear. Well good for Ronie. However I reckon that since Ronies experience is so very limited he may need to change that tactic when the likes of Barca come calling. It may work domestically next season in the SPFL, but hey John Barnes could probably manage Celtic to the title next season
The fact that the vast majority of his players are under 23 might suggest that Ronie is a genius in developing youngsters. Conversely it may also suggest that the standard of fitba in Norway is so poor that a team of under 23s can win it. Then the buy low sell high theory comes in, and Ronie can find stars all over Europe who will light up our 2014 European adventure and he can find them for buttons, despite that fact that Ronie hasn’t actually lit up any European adventure anywhere yet and has not sold a player for anywhere near the value of our own Aiden.
The fans of, the newly heard of messiah, then point out that the so called alternative “candidates”, Owen, Jackie, Malky, Roy etc have not even won a single title between them, Therefore Ronie has achieved more than them . Well first of all I don’t know if Jackie and Owen and Malky and co are the other candidates. Secondly, even if they are the other candidates I don’t think any of them would receive the backing that Ronie was getting yesterday and finally, in my not so humble opinion, promotion from the English championship might well be considered an achievement on a par with winning the Norwegian league.
So it looks like Ronie for Celtic, and since his name has many anagrams and he is at least 6 feet tall, who am I to say that Ronie will not win the Champions league for Celtic with a dashing display of 4-3-3 fitba against the likes of Chelski and Bayern in the style of the new Jock Stein?
Who am I to say he wont make bucket loads of transfer cash for Big Peter Lawell and Celtic when he sells all our under 23 superstars to Man City and PSG?
Who am I to say he won’t fill Celtic Park to the Rafters at every home match?
Please excuse me if I won’t join the rush to proclaim him as better than Jose until he achieves something better than a solitary domestic league title in a small country.
I do genuinely hope he does and i will admit i was wrong to be cautious, Ive been wrong before and will be again. I’ve been right occasionally too. Opinions? who needs them?