SPFL will move with the herd, isolating angry losers

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We received clarity from Uefa on some important issues yesterday and not on others.  Access to the Champions and Europa Leagues next season will be granted only on sporting merit.  This finally nailed hopes of the Null and Void Loyal.  If a league was declared void, its standings and results would not hold, so no sporting merit could be determined.

If Newco want access to the Europa League qualifiers, they need the SPFL to award a winner and second place, despite their protests.  Our old pal Cognitive Dissonance must keep them awake at night.

It is clear from the Uefa statement they have listened and tried to accommodate several scenarios.  Where titles are close, like Italy, where Lazio narrowed the gap on Juventus to a point, Uefa suggest a play-off system could allow chasing teams to make up the difference.  AZ Alkmaar trail Ajax on goal difference but the Dutch league is expected to call a halt to the campaign as early as today.  There are no truly satisfactory closures this season, least of all for Celtic, who will be denied a title winning game.

What we didn’t get was a hard deadline on when teams have to be nominated for European competitions.  After discussions with Uefa, the Italian league extended this season’s Serie A to 2 August, so we know for sure the European draws cannot take place until after that date.

I expect we will see European leagues synchronise their moves; there will be no incentive for any radical undertakings.  Those without rabid losers will be first to call time, the SPFL will move with the herd, as it should.  Then those who called for independent investigations into why the SPFL acted the same way as the rest of Europe will look like the angry losers they are.

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  1. Slabhoy - on the road to 10 on

    GENE on 26TH APRIL 2020 1:54 PM

     

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  2. Not sure if mentioned before, BBC Sport site has Greatest post war manager’ poll. Jock is just behind Paisley. Swallex way out in front

  3. Taurangabhoy

     

     

    “The principle threat in today`s world , long before Covid 19 , comes from Beijing not Washington . ”

     

     

    I have no love for any Communist government ( I admire Cuba but the family business of government there will end soon) butI don’t think the Chines threat in the West is being evaluated fairly.

     

     

    In terms of military strength, USA has more than twice the number of military aircraft, and a military budget which is 4 times larger than China’s. The Chinese have many more submarines and slightly more tanks than the US but the most telling differential stat is on nuclear capability. The US have 78 nuclear submarines and the Chinese have 3. In terms of land based nuclear capability, China has around 400 strategic and tactical nuclear weapons, while the US has 10,350 intact warheads with 5,300 considered active or operational. Plus the US is the only country to have actually deployed nuclear weapons in a war.

     

     

    The Global Peace Index which measures 22 indicators in 3 categories (ongoing domestic or international conflict, societal safety, and security and militarisation) places China at 62 in its list and the US is listed as 63, in a list headed by Afghanistan, Somalia and Syria as 1,2, and 3.

     

     

    The last time Chinese troops were deployed in Foreign conflict was in 1979 against Vietnam, a war which lasted just under 4 weeks and produced around 30,000 deaths. The list of foreign excursions by US troops is much larger and more recent, as is Russia’s and, indeed the UK’s.

     

     

    Of course, we do not know the full extent of potential and plans for aggression as China is a secretive country, However, if we base our views on its actions rather than its perceived threat it has done little to warrant the reputation it has had since the post WW2 Communist revolution. It funded and backed the expanse of communism in SE Asia and in parts of Africa in the following 50 years but China then moved to a strategy of state capitalism rather than Communism. It is employing a totalitarian led Capitalist revolution wherein China has stopped being a traditional Communist State and has begun trading openly with Capitalist and non-aligned states. it has ceded some previously guarded freedoms to its population. There is much more freedom to travel and move abroad now though these privileges are carefully monitored and will be taken away from you if you are seen as an enemy of the state or over-critical of its leaders.

     

     

    It may be the first country to manage a move from totalitarianism to democracy without bloodshed. Revolutions usually occur and Tyrants are usually overthrown when they relax their grip on the oppressed. China has managed to delicately reduce its grip without being seen to be betraying its so-called Communist control. It has now become what Kojo and all the Ayn Rand followers have asked for- a capitalist state run by a strong central figure who exercises “benign control”. But, of course, for anyone being controlled, it is hard to see this as benign. The pro-democracy movement, largely based in Hong Kong, feels that the Party will never make the necessary jump towards elections and the Party cadres feel that they will be infiltrated by foreign powers if they are too quick in moving there.

     

     

    I am on the side of the Pro democracy movers and feel that China could take the jump towards democracy more quickly than it has chosen to do. Certainly, it will not be the generation of leaders who grew up with Maoist Communism who will make that jump , and, perhaps, if there is economic recession, as is likely, they will never make the jump, as they have much to lose.

     

     

    Totalitarianism fell in the USSR but Russia has not become fully democratic in the way that its satellite states have. Maybe China will revert back to more Communist control but that has not been the trend of the past 20 years.

     

     

    Meanwhile we have Trump & Putin making common cause against China ( a scenario predicted by George Orwell). It is understandable that The US resents China’s ability to do capitalism better than they are managing because they have fewer regulations to observe and less regard for international law (copyright , for example).

     

     

    We have a poor choice in this upcoming war. A Mafia-backed pretendy successful businessman with Clinical levels of narcissism, or an ex KGB gangster who won the war to loot funds in the break up of the Soviet union (with his own homo-erotic brand of narcissism) or the Chinese leader, Xi Jingping, of whom little is known, but also seems fond of censorship, mass surveillance and a cult of personality. Personally, I’d be gald that you have someone human like Jacinda Ardern to lead you, though she is a litle tainted by her spell working with Tony Blair.

     

     

    P.S. The US economy was in a great position when Obama left office. There were numerous articles about the good economic conditions his successor would enjoy. Trump will use the excuse of the post-COVID recession to explain why his economic policies faield bu tthe truth will remain, the early levels of tax-cutting for his pals is a well tried and failed exercise in economic management. At some stage, those tax cuts have to be paid for and he had no plans, other than a return to a sustained boom economy , with which to recoup the money lost. It was a bet on black in the casino and now that we are heading towaards red territory, the US economy will collapse, as will that of Russia and China. We are not yet out of the threat of a move even further right in all our countries. Fascism is always most popular after an economic collapse.

  4. Big Georges Fan Club - Hail, Hail, Wee Oscar on

    David66 / CORKCELT – don’t know either song, but we will learn them and do them for you boys :-))

     

     

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  5. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    The principle threat in today`s world , long before Covid 19 , comes from Beijing not Washington

     

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha,

     

    COUNTRY/STATE Dates of intervention Forces Comments

     

    SOUTH DAKOTA 1890 (-?) Troops 300 Lakota Indians

     

    massacred at

     

    Wounded Knee.

     

    ARGENTINA 1890 Troops Buenos Aires interests

     

    protected.

     

    CHILE 1891 Troops Marines clash with

     

    nationalist rebels.

     

    HAITI 1891 Troops Black revolt on

     

    Navassa defeated.

     

    IDAHO 1892 Troops Army suppresses

     

    silver miners’ strike.

     

    HAWAII 1893 (-?) Naval, troops Independent

     

    kingdom overthrown,

     

    annexed.

     

    CHICAGO 1894 Troops Breaking of rail strike,

     

    34 killed.

     

    NICARAGUA 1894 Troops Month-long

     

    occupation of

     

    Bluefields.

     

    CHINA 1894-95 Naval, troops Marines land in

     

    Sino-Japanese War

     

    KOREA 1894-96 Troops Marines kept in

     

    Seoul during war.

     

    PANAMA 1895 Troops, naval Marines land in

     

    Colombian province.

     

    NICARAGUA 1896 Troops Marines land in port

     

    of Cortino.

     

    CHINA 1898/1900 Troops Boxer Rebellion

     

    fought by foreign

     

    armies.

     

    PHILIPPINES 1898-1910 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain,

     

    killed 600,000

     

    Filipinos

     

    CUBA 1898-1902 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain,

     

    still hold Navy base.

     

    PUERTO RICO 1898 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain,

     

    occupation

     

    continues.

     

    GUAM 1898 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain,

     

    still use as base.

     

    MINNESOTA 1898 (-?) Troops Army battles

     

    Chippewa at Leech

     

    Lake.

     

    NICARAGUA 1898 Troops Marines land at port

     

    of San Juan del Sur.

     

    SAMOA 1899 (-?) Troops Battle over

     

    succession to

     

    throne.

     

    NICARAGUA 1899 Troops Marines land at port

     

    of Bluefields.

     

    IDAHO 1899-1901 Troops Army occupies

     

    Coeur d’Alene

     

    mining region.

     

    OKLAHOMA 1901 Troops Army battles Creek

     

    Indian revolt.

     

    PANAMA 1901-14 Naval, troops Broke off from

     

    Colombia 1903,

     

    annexed Canal Zone

     

    1914.

     

    HONDURAS 1903 Troops Marines intervene in

     

    revolution.

     

    DOMINICAN REP 1903-04 Troops U.S. interests

     

    protected in

     

    Revolution.

     

    KOREA 1904-05 Troops Marines land in

     

    Russo-Japanese War.

     

    CUBA 1906-09 Troops Marines land in

     

    democratic election.

     

    NICARAGUA 1907 Troops “Dollar Diplomacy”

     

    protectorate set up.

     

    HONDURAS 1907 Troops Marines land during

     

    war with Nicaragua

     

    PANAMA 1908 Troops Marines intervene in

     

    election contest.

     

    NICARAGUA 1910 Troops Marines land in

     

    Bluefields and

     

    Corinto.

     

    HONDURAS 1911 Troops U.S. interests

     

    protected in civil war.

     

    CHINA 1911-41 Naval, troops Continuous

     

    occupation with flare-

     

    ups.

     

    CUBA 1912 Troops U.S. interests

     

    protected in civil war.

     

    PANAMA 1912 Troops Marines land during

     

    heated election.

     

    HONDURAS 1912 Troops Marines protect U.S.

     

    economic interests.

     

    NICARAGUA 1912-33 Troops, bombing 10-year occupation,

     

    fought guerillas

     

    MEXICO 1913 Naval Americans evacuated

     

    during revolution.

     

    DOMINICAN REP 1914 Naval Fight with rebels over

     

    Santo Domingo.

     

    COLORADO 1914 Troops Breaking of miners’

     

    strike by Army.

     

    MEXICO 1914-18 Naval, troops Series of

     

    interventions against

     

    nationalists.

     

    HAITI 1914-34 Troops, bombing 19-year occupation

     

    after revolts.

     

    TEXAS 1915 Troops Federal soldiers crush

     

    “Plan of San Diego”

     

    Mexican-American

     

    rebellion

     

    DOMINICAN REP 1916-24 Troops 8-year Marine

     

    occupation.

     

    CUBA 1917-33 Troops Military occupation,

     

    economic

     

    protectorate.

     

    WW I 1917-18 Naval, troops Ships sunk, fought

     

    Germany for 1 1/2

     

    years.

     

    RUSSIA 1918-22 Naval, troops Five landings to fight

     

    Bolsheviks

     

    PANAMA 1918-20 Troops “Police duty” during

     

    unrest after elections.

     

    HONDURAS 1919 Troops Marines land during

     

    election campaign.

     

    YUGOSLAVIA 1919 Troops/Marines Intervention for Italy

     

    against Serbs in

     

    Dalmatia.

     

    GUATEMALA 1920 Troops 2-week intervention

     

    against unionists.

     

    WEST VIRGINIA 1920-21 Troops, bombing Army intervenes

     

    against mine workers.

     

    TURKEY 1922 Troops Fought nationalists in

     

    Smyrna.

     

    CHINA 1922-27 Naval, troops Deployment during

     

    nationalist revolt.

     

    HONDURAS 1924-25 Troops Landed twice during

     

    election strife.

     

    PANAMA 1925 Troops Marines suppress

     

    general strike.

     

    CHINA 1927-34 Troops Marines stationed

     

    throughout the

     

    country.

     

    EL SALVADOR 1932 Naval Warships sent during

     

    Marti revolt.

     

    WASHINGTON DC 1932 Troops Army stops WWI vet

     

    bonus protest.

     

    WW II 1941-45 Naval, troops, Hawaii bombed,

     

    bombing, nuclear. fought Japan, Italy and

     

    Germany for 3 years;

     

    first nuclear war.

     

    DETROIT 1943 Troops Army put down Black

     

    rebellion.

     

    IRAN 1946 Nuclear threat Soviet troops told to

     

    leave north.

     

    YUGOSLAVIA 1946 Nuclear threat, Response to shoot-

     

    naval. down of US plane.

     

    URUGUAY 1947 Nuclear threat Bombers deployed as

     

    show of strength.

     

    GREECE 1947-49 Command U.S. directs extreme-

     

    operation. right in civil war.

     

    GERMANY 1948 Nuclear Threat Atomic-capable

     

    bombers guard Berlin

     

    Airlift.

     

    CHINA 1948-49 Troops/Marines Evacuate Americans

     

    before Communist

     

    victory.

     

    PHILIPPINES 1948-54 Command CIA directs war against

     

    operation. Huk Rebellion.

     

    PUERTO RICO 1950 Command Independence rebellion

     

    operation. crushed in Ponce.

     

    KOREA 1951-53 (-?) Troops, naval, U.S./So. Korea fights

     

    bombing , China/No. Korea to

     

    nuclear threat. stalemate; A-bomb

     

    threat in 1950, and

     

    against China in 1953.

     

    Still have bases.

     

    IRAN 1953 Command CIA overthrows

     

    Operation. democracy, installs

     

    Shah.

     

    VIETNAM 1954 Nuclear threat French offered bombs

     

    to use against seige.

     

    GUATEMALA 1954 Command CIA directs exile

     

    operation, invasion after new gov’t

     

    bombing, nationalized U.S.

     

    nuclear threat. company lands;

     

    bombers based in

     

    Nicaragua.

     

    EGYPT 1956 Nuclear threat, Soviets told to keep out

     

    troops of Suez crisis; Marines

     

    evacuate foreigners.

     

    LEBANON 1958 Troops, naval Marine occupation

     

    against rebels.

     

    IRAQ 1958 Nuclear threat Iraq warned against

     

    invading Kuwait.

     

    CHINA 1958 Nuclear threat China told not to move

     

    on Taiwan isles.

     

    PANAMA 1958 Troops Flag protests erupt into

     

    confrontation.

     

    VIETNAM 1960-75 Troops, naval, Fought South Vietnam

     

    bombing, revolt & North Vietnam;

     

    nuclear threats. one million killed in 2nd

     

    longest U.S. war; atomic

     

    bomb threats in 1968

     

    and 1969.

     

    CUBA 1961 Command CIA-directed exile

     

    operation, invasion fails.

     

    GERMANY 1961 Nuclear threat Alert during Berlin Wall

     

    crisis.

     

    LAOS 1962 Command Military buildup during

     

    operation. guerrilla war.

     

    CUBA 1962 Nuclear threat, Naval blockade during

     

    missile crisis; near-war

     

    with Soviet Union.

     

    IRAQ 1963 Command CIA organizes coup that

     

    operation killed president, brings

     

    Ba’ath Party to power, and

     

    Saddam Hussein back

     

    from exile to be head of

     

    the secret service.

     

    PANAMA 1964 Troops Panamanians shot for

     

    urging canal’s return.

     

    INDONESIA 1965 Command Million killed in CIA-

     

    operation. assisted army coup.

     

    DOMINICAN REP 1965-66 Troops, bombing Marines land during

     

    election campaign.

     

    GUATEMALA 1966-67 Command Green Berets intervene

     

    operation. against rebels.

     

    DETROIT 1967 Troops Army battles African

     

    Americans, 43 killed.

     

    UNITED STATES 1968 Troops After King is shot; over

     

    21,000 soldiers in cities.

     

    CAMBODIA 1969-75 Bombing, troops, Up to 2 million killed in

     

    naval. decade of bombing,

     

    starvation, and political

     

    chaos.

     

    OMAN 1970 Command U.S. directs Iranian marine

     

    operation. invasion.

     

    LAOS 1971-73 Command U.S. directs South

     

    operation, Vietnamese invasion;

     

    bombing. “carpet-bombs”

     

    countryside.

     

    SOUTH DAKOTA 1973 Command Army directs Wounded

     

    operation Knee siege of Lakotas.

     

    MIDEAST 1973 Nuclear threat World-wide alert during

     

    Mideast War.

     

    CHILE 1973 Command CIA-backed coup ousts

     

    operation. elected marxist

     

    president.

     

    CAMBODIA 1975 Troops, bombing Gas captured ship, 28 die

     

    in copter crash.

     

    ANGOLA 1976-92 Command CIA assists South African-

     

    operation. backed rebels.

     

    IRAN 1980 Troops, Aborted bombing raid to

     

    nuclear threat. rescue Embassy

     

    hostages; 8 troops die in

     

    copter-plane crash.

     

    Soviets warned not to get

     

    involved in revolution.

     

    LIBYA 1981 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot

     

    down in maneuvers.

     

    EL SALVADOR 1981-92 Command Advisors, overflights aid

     

    operation, anti-rebel war, soldiers

     

    troops. briefly involved in hostage

     

    clash.

     

    NICARAGUA 1981-90 Command CIA directs exile (Contra)

     

    operation, invasions, plants harbor

     

    naval. mines against revolution.

     

    LEBANON 1982-84 Naval, Marines expel PLO and

     

    bombing, troops. back Phalangists, Navy

     

    bombs and shells Muslim

     

    positions.

     

    GRENADA 1983-84 Troops, bombing Invasion four years after

     

    revolution.

     

    HONDURAS 1983-89 Troops Maneuvers help build

     

    bases near borders.

     

    IRAN 1984 Jets Two Iranian jets shot down

     

    over Persian Gulf.

     

    LIBYA 1986 Bombing, naval Air strikes to topple

     

    nationalist gov’t.

     

    BOLIVIA 1986 Troops Army assists raids on

     

    cocaine region.

     

    IRAN 1987-88 Naval, bombing US intervenes on side of

     

    Iraq in war.

     

    LIBYA 1989 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down.

     

    VIRGIN ISLANDS 1989 Troops St. Croix Black unrest after

     

    storm.

     

    PHILIPPINES 1989 Jets Air cover provided for

     

    government against coup.

     

    PANAMA 1989 (-?) Troops, bombing Nationalist government

     

    ousted by 27,000 soldiers,

     

    leaders arrested, 2000+

     

    killed.

     

    LIBERIA 1990 Troops Foreigners evacuated during

     

    civil war.

     

    SAUDI ARABIA 1990-91 Troops, jets Iraq countered after

     

    invading Kuwait. 540,000

     

    troops also stationed in

     

    Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE,

     

    Israel.

     

    IRAQ 1990-91 Bombing, Blockade of Iraqi and

     

    troops, Jordanian ports, air strikes;

     

    naval. 1,000,000+ killed in invasion

     

    of Iraq and Kuwait; large-

     

    scale destruction of Iraqi

     

    military.

     

    KUWAIT 1991 Naval, troops, Kuwait royal family returned

     

    bombing. to throne.

     

    IRAQ 1998-03 Bombing, naval No-fly zone over Kurdish

     

    north, Shiite south; constant

     

    air strikes and naval-

     

    enforced economic

     

    sanctions

     

    LOS ANGELES 1992 Troops Army, Marines deployed

     

    against anti-police uprising.

     

    SOMALIA 1992-94 Troops, naval, U.S.-led United Nations

     

    bombing. occupation during civil war;

     

    raids against one Mogadishu

     

    faction.

     

    YUGOSLAVIA 1992-94 Naval NATO blockade of Serbia and

     

    Montenegro.

     

    BOSNIA 1993-? Jets, bombing No-fly zone patrolled in civil

     

    war; downed jets, bombed

     

    Serbs.

     

    HAITI 1994 Troops, naval Blockade against military

     

    government; troops restore

     

    President Aristide to office

     

    three years after coup.

     

    ZAIRE (CONGO) 1996-97 Troops Marines at Rwandan Hutu

     

    refugee camps, in area

     

    where Congo revolution

     

    begins.

     

    LIBERIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during

     

    evacuation of foreigners.

     

    ALBANIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during

     

    evacuation of foreigners.

     

    SUDAN 1998 Missiles Attack on pharmaceutical

     

    plant alleged to be “terrorist”

     

    nerve gas plant.

     

    AFGHANISTAN 1998 Missiles Attack on former CIA training

     

    camps used by Islamic

     

    fundamentalist groups

     

    alleged to have attacked

     

    embassies.

     

    IRAQ 1998 Bombing, Four days of intensive air

     

    Missiles. strikes after weapons

     

    inspectors allege Iraqi

     

    obstructions.

     

    YUGOSLAVIA 1999 Bombing, Heavy NATO air strikes after

     

    Missiles. Serbia declines to withdraw

     

    from Kosovo. NATO

     

    occupation of Kosovo.

     

    YEMEN 2000 Naval USS Cole, docked in Aden,

     

    bombed.

     

    MACEDONIA 2001 Troops NATO forces deployed to

     

    move and disarm Albanian

     

    rebels.

     

    UNITED STATES 2001 Jets, naval Reaction to hijacker attacks

     

    on New York, DC

     

    AFGHANISTAN 2001-? Troops, Massive U.S. mobilization to

     

    bombing, overthrow Taliban, hunt Al

     

    missiles. Qaeda fighters, install Karzai

     

    regime, and battle Taliban

     

    insurgency. More than

     

    30,000 U.S. troops and

     

    numerous private security

     

    contractors carry out

     

    occupation.

     

    YEMEN 2002 Missiles Predator drone missile

     

    attack on Al Qaeda, including

     

    a US citizen.

     

    PHILIPPINES 2002-? Troops, naval Training mission for

     

    Philippine military fighting

     

    Abu Sayyaf rebels evolves

     

    into combat missions in Sulu

     

    Archipelago, west of

     

    Mindanao.

     

    COLOMBIA 2003-? Troops US special forces sent to rebel

     

    zone to back up Colombian

     

    military protecting oil

     

    pipeline.

     

    IRAQ 2003-? Troops, Saddam regime toppled in

     

    naval, Baghdad. More than 250,000

     

    bombing, U.S. personnel participate in

     

    missiles. invasion. US and UK forces

     

    occupy country and battle

     

    Sunni and Shi’ite insurgencies.

     

    More than 160,000 troops and

     

    numerous private contractors

     

    carry out occupation and build

     

    large permanent bases.

     

    LIBERIA 2003 Troops Brief involvement in

     

    peacekeeping force as rebels

     

    drove out leader.

     

    HAITI 2004-05 Troops, naval Marines land after right-wing

     

    rebels oust elected President

     

    Aristide, who was advised to

     

    leave by Washington.

     

    PAKISTAN 2005-? Missiles, CIA missile and air strikes and

     

    bombing, Special Forces raids on alleged

     

    covert Al Qaeda and Taliban refuge

     

    operation. villages kill multiple civilians.

     

    Drone attacks also on Pakistani

     

    Mehsud network.

     

    SOMALIA 2006-? Missiles, Special Forces advise Ethiopian

     

    naval, Invasion to topple Islamist

     

    covert government; AC-130 strikes and

     

    operation. Cruise missile attacks against

     

    Islamist rebels; naval blockade

     

    against “pirates” and insurgents.

     

    SYRIA 2008 Troops Special Forces in helicopter raid

     

    5 miles from Iraq kill 8 Syrian

     

    civilians.

     

    YEMEN 2009 Missiles Cruise missile attack on Al Qaeda

     

    kills 49 civilians.

     

     

    And the list goes on and on and on, but we should worry about China ffs

  6. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Gene,

     

    The USA exported murder no a scale far greater than China which was the point of the discussion, I posit the USA numbers are far greater then what China is alleged to have done internally, in fact I expect combine China and Stalin and you’d be getting close.

  7. With the German football teams back training, and the league due to kick off on May the 3rd, and probably the only fitba on the telly……………………………

     

     

    Whit team is everyone going to support / watch ?

     

     

     

    IamgoingFoeDortmund

  8. What all of us here in the West need to understand, is that we all consciously or unconsciously, without waving the butchers apron or stars n stripes, buy in to a 500 year old history that’s changed and continues to do so, right under our feet. We can either believe in a unipolar world ultimately controlled by Washington/London or a multipolar world of sovereign states equal under international law. The latter version is open to all, including us, the former will lead to war. I’d recommend an article called Russia China Double Helix.

     

    HH☘️

  9. What is the Stars on

    Camamalar

     

    Don’t forget 3 July 1988,Iranian passenger jet shot down by missiles fired from USS Vincennes killing all 290 civilians on board.

     

    Probably just one of many omissions from your list.

     

    God bless America

  10. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX

     

     

    Better to have credited my remarks to myself rather than tarring Taurangabhoy with my brush .

     

    You provide an excellent well thought out summary . I agree with much of it.

     

     

    I have no reason to doubt that your statistical comparison of Chinese V US military capability is accurate .

     

    The question , however is what is the Chinese intention ?

     

    And what is the U.S. intention ?

     

     

    On the obviously superficial level , please have a look at this initial response and tell me if it rings any historical bells .

     

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmp51YN-7wc

     

     

    For me , you could take Xi off and bring Stalin , Hitler or

     

    Kim Jong-un off the bench and put them on the podium.

  11. It’s a Beautiful song BGCFC and it is a a true story. There is a bit of uncertainty about her age, One account has her at 15 another 17.

     

    There is a statue to her both at Ellis Island and at Cobh in Cork where she departed from,

     

    When she died a Celtic Cross was sent over from Ireland to mark her grave.

     

    The song is simply a lament for Emigrants.

  12. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    WHAT IS THE STARS on 26TH APRIL 2020 3:53 PM

     

    Camamalar

     

     

     

     

    Don’t forget 3 July 1988,Iranian passenger jet shot down by missiles fired from USS Vincennes killing all 290 civilians on board.

     

     

     

     

    Probably just one of many omissions from your list.

     

     

     

     

    God bless America

     

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    Omissions. Oh , aye.

     

     

    How about the war against Hitler`s fascism and Tojo`s imperialism ?

     

     

    Why don`t you remind us about De Valera`s shameful ” neutrality “.

     

    Painful truth , but truth nevertheless.

  13. MACJAY1 FOR NEIL LENNON on 26TH APRIL 2020 4:25 PM

     

     

     

    In WW2 the USA was neutral until it was attacked.

  14. Big Joe

     

     

    Has to be St Pauli for me. Met a load of their fans when in Hamburg for that awful showing by us in ’96 I think?

     

     

    Great trip and think we all had our cat in the hat headwear with us. Paul Mcstay bus from Stirling for that trip. 

     

     

    HH!

  15. Macjay:

     

     

    Why don`t you remind us about De Valera`s shameful ” neutrality “.

     

     

    I wasn’t even born and never voted for his party. I’ve seen you mention this before. There was an article in yesterday’s Irish Independent about this matter. It puts the issue in context rather than the scandalous way you portray it. I’m not going to link it but it’s an easy thing to do a Google search.

  16. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Celtic v St Johnstone 1988

     

     

    The game that stopped the cheating 10

     

    BBC Scotland

     

    Sky 115 7.15pm

  17. Ain’t gonnae get drawn into any tit for tat this week got the moderator on my chorus and verse last week for nuffin.

     

    But after CANAMALARS post at 3:15 pm maybe he should change his name to Schindler:,-))))) 😃

     

    By the way Canman I am definitely on your side

  18. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Fess19,

     

    no to be dismissive but I’m no looking for people to be on my side, I prefer people to be on their own side and make their own judgements, like you did last week, the better that argument I face the better the challenge to my preconceptions. I’d prefer to be wrong but corrected, than wrong and stupidly dogmatic.

     

     

    Might no seem like that when I dig my heels in but its the reality, Gene’s post today opened a new line of learning for me that I’m happy to take on board however I will maintain that when it comes to genocide I posit the UK & US lead the way on that the world over, between wars, proxy wars, invasions, coups, making them responsible for the actions of the proxy rulers, their economic warfare and the starvation of the populations they claim to be helping.