We’ve not really discussed the enormous political and disciplinary matters hanging over Scottish football since before our Champions League campaign got underway but it moves to the fore today, as the SPL Commission, headed by Lord Nimmo Smith, sits to consider charges levelled by the league against former member, Rangers FC. The Commission is expected to conclude by the end of this week.
Rangers are charged with improperly registering players by allowing footballers to enter into contractually binding agreements to receive money in connection with the game, directly or indirectly, without registering these agreements with the SPL or the SFA.
Playing an improperly registering footballer voids the result of a match, no matter how innocuous the registration impropriety is, as Spartans discovered 14 months ago to their cost. They saw their Scottish Cup win over Culter overturned because a player’s registration form was dated only once, not twice as required.
As well as being awarded a 0-3 defeat, the improper registration of players will cost the offending club any prize money ‘won’ and will result in a disciplinary measure being imposed. Spartans were fined £4000, approximately 20% of their annual income, and were suspended from the competition for 12 months. A steep tariff for leaving a box on a form empty and fielding a player in one game of football.
Lots of speculation has centred on the so-called ‘stripping of titles’ but in the event the Commission upholds the charge the voiding of results will happen as a matter of consequence; it should not subject to speculation. What is more interesting is the size of prize money the league would seek to reclaim, and redistribute, and any penalty imposed by the Commission.
SPL teams receive prize money based on their final league position, funded by the league’s TV deal, which for teams finishing in the top two positions is well in excess of £1m each year. Any ‘stripping of titles’ is likely to be a headline grabber, but the repayment of prize money and disciplinary measures will be far more significant, for some.
Sir David Murray, who owned Rangers throughout the period of alleged improper registration of players, insists the club registered all contractually binding payments players received in connection with playing football. SFA president, Campbell Ogilvie, was an executive director of Rangers for some of the period under investigation and may have been responsible for some registrations.
Charles Green rejected an offer to limit the consequences of the charge being upheld in return for his company (then called Sevco 5088 Ltd) acquiring the SFA membership vacated by Rangers. We will soon discover if he is master of the Cunning Plan or an over-ambitious gambler.
I expect calls for SPL and SFA rules to be upheld without fear or favour to be met.
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Whyte: Alistair if you can guess whats in my hands you can keep it. Go on have a guess!
Sally: Is it a mince round and two slice a buttered breed?
Whyte: Naw, Ill gie yae a clue it disnae start wae B and disnae end in illion!
Sally: too cryptic boss. A question of sport wisnae this hard!!!!
Johann Murdoch
“It’s always better when we’re together”……..mibbee see you tomorrow and we can reflect in our triumph (of sorts)……
CE – is not what it says on the tin. Teachers basically having to re-write the lessons they are already giving to incorporate more group work, less textbook stuff, and to encourage group learning – aimed at bringing them all on together.
It’s a waste of teacher’s time, and most of them can’t be bothered with it.
Another example of Scotland being run by those not of the Tim-persuarsion
StJohns..,
thats what a mean, respect
hail hail
Have watched Juve all last year and so far this season – they have regressed somewhat from last year in terms of player pool.
They have a starting 11 (minus Chievo) but lack an in-depth bench the exception being Pogba – but 3 good games recently doesn’t necessarily mean strength-in-depth.
Their strikers are in poor form – questions over what Anelka will bring to the party but he does have good positional sense and ability to play off the last man.
Evident tonight that without Pirlo and Lichsteiner they lack; creativity, width and penetration – take them out and IMO opinion we have a chance.
Excluding big FF – think we have 10 from 15 out-field options (if we include JF and Stokes) – the tie may well be decided on how many key-players we keep fit (and on form) versus their pool.
This CL double-header is winable if we have 8+ players with their heads scewed-on!
AKBW1888 and Dexter
talent without opportunity is nothing. if we do indeed have so many talented young players we should be giving them the opportunity to shine (not all at once). of the 5 or so mentioned maybe one or two will excel, that will save celtic a fortune and you tend to find the academy bhoys are willing to work towards a good wage and commit to the club.
from the little i see and hear, i think lenny should maybe consider giving mcgeogh and george a couple of run oust. watt has lots of potential, we all see that, but he is not the best with regard link up play etc…, key to being a quality forward, more so at celtic than other clubs given the tactics used against us in just about every domestic game (everyone behind the ball), it will come in time.
i know we have a good academy but more than anything else the youg bhoys need some opportunities to show what they can do
hail hail
Hoopsman-Hamiltontim might be yer man.
theweegreenman
22:18 on 29 January, 2013
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Not heard much since they announced the amount of marches has fell recently, dont know if the SNP are still refusing to serve on committee, it is not like a normal comm. they only meet when the Police call into question a proposed march
Cheers !Bada!.
Not prepared to let it go without explanation. A few parents unhappy. Me? I’m outraged still after a few days to think about it.
scewed = screwed
S.O.D – wits wae the Craig Whyte hatin’ all of a sudden?
Did you no used work for this geezer? or somewun fairly similar tae him
Apparently George took a bad one on the knee, unable to continue even though all subs had been used. Hope he is O.K., he is a real good one.
pauloantony
22:08 on
29 January, 2013
Paul mcstay was WORLD CLASS
Agree
tomcourtney
you should email
webhelp@celticfc.com
Hoopsmon
I’ve been there on a number of occasions for the same event.
hoopsmon 22.23
Celtic used to, may still, provide classroom facilities for schools. The brother of a regular contributor to CQN was employed, may still be, by Scottish government, to run the facility.
Big Catholic you know too much about me! On that note goodnight!
Hamiltontim Thanks for the reply
Would it be something you’d encourage and do you consider it complementary to their education? My gripe is mostly with the non-consultation/permission from parents (might just be bad admin/organisation on the school’s part), but it jarred. Is there an equivalent at CP?
Hoopsmon, to a conspiracy theorist like myself, it sounds like public money being directed towards supporting the second newest institution in Scotland.
St.John
Can you point me to where I can find a comparison of the number of walks in 2012 to say 2011 and 2010.
I would honesstly have expected an increase in the number of walks in 2012 taking into account the jubilee and stuff.
Steph of der
APologies – didnae mean to let to much oot on this page. Are you really away to bed?
Was just starting to feel friendly
Oldtim/Kikinthenakas
Supporters bus will not be arriving at Paradise til about 1600 for the Juve game, this will probably be to late to come into the city centre for the meet up I would imagine.
midefield maestro
Thanks for the response. Glad to hear it – the bolt out of the blue (pardon the pun) aspect threw me a bit as I hadn’t heard of this happening before.
These are the players and staff which the BBC have copies of their UNDISCLOSED TO THE SPL/SFA side letters. It’s fairly common knowledge that quite a few incriminating documents were shredded, Mr. Bain instructed his staff to shred his contract documents, not that as a non player we are really interested in.
Alex Rae – £569,000
Barry Ferguson – £2.5m
Carlos Cuellar – £448,255
Christian Nerlinger – £1.8m
Craig Moore – £1.1m
Dan Eggen – £68,000
Egil Ostenstad – .£370,000
Gregory Vignal – £173,000
Julien Rodriguez – £638,000
Jean-Alain Boumsong – £630,000
Kris Boyd – £215,000
Lorenzo Amoruso – £639,000
Marvin Andrews – £316,025
Michael Ball – £1.4m
Mikel Arteta – £674,603
Neil McCann – £500,000
Olivier Bernard – £224,000
Paul Le Guen – £201,250
Peter Lovenkrands – £902,000
Ronald De Boer – £1.2m
Sasa Papac – £319,000
Stefan Klos – £2m
Steven Davis – £600,000
Steven Thompson – £485,000
Thomas Buffel – £1.2m
Yves Colleau – £106,200
Alex McLeish – £1.7m
Arthur Numan – £510,000
Dado Prso – £1.9m
Fernando Ricksen – £684,225
Gavin Rae – £376,000
Ian McGuinness – £25,400
Jan Wouters – £285,000
Jerome Bonnissel – £48,000
Joel Le Hir – £28,275
Kevin Muscat – £1m
Libor Sionko – £178,000
Michael Mols – £260,000
Nacho Novo – £1.2m
Paolo Vanoli – £592,000
Pedro Mendes – £1m
Ronald Waterreus – £510,000
Sotirios Kyrgiakos – £532,200
Stephane Wiertelak – £28,275
Zurab Khizanishvili – £405,000
Hoopsmon
What’s the problem ?
hoopsmon just asked my wife ( secondary teacher ) she said that you should approach the school and explain that you do not want your child to continue with this and to be withdrawn from attending. She did also say that Celtic do indeed do this and it is called Celtic learning and pupils from her school attend this.
Hh
jackie mac just been announced manager of Dundee United……
never seen that one coming??
Silver City 1888
Thought I’d get a few answers here, thanks. My conspiracy theory levels have certainly been heightened over the last 12/18 months, so thought I’d check first before I started kickin’ the bins…..!
hoopsmon
22:23 on
29 January, 2013
Lurking a while now and an occasional poster. This is off topic, but I hope you’ll all bear with me as I’d like a few learned CQN opinions on something that’s been bothering me for a few days. My child attends (for reasons I spent a lot of time considering) a ‘non-denominational’ school. I have just learned that the school has organised – no prior consultation with parents was entered into – over a seven week period, (best part of three hours of their school week taking in travel and time out of school) to take P6 and 7 children to the Sports Direct Arena to take part in……..wait for it………maths lessons!!!! Yes, maths lessons – no mistake. Once I’d had my sides re-stitched at A&E and an injection of anti-irony serum administered, I contacted the school today and had this confirmed. The silence was deafening (although the cough was loud) when I asked when the follow-up visit to Celtic Park would be taking place, of course. Apparently there are also 1st, 2nd and 3rd year pupils from the local secondary attending. Any educators on here had any experience of this? Any advice on which department of the Curriculum for Excellence I can take this further with would also be appreciated.
Youcouldn’tmakeitupCSC
Hoopsmon
This Exercise excuse the pun is to get all you parents ready for which is
called musical schools apparently because of the state of the UK economy
being £150,000,000,000 (£150 Billion In Debt) with you know who contributing
to said debt what the Coalition Government is proposing to do is to emerge
schools together to free up spare land which will be sold to private developers
to build part private and part Council Houses on said freed up land which
should recuperate billions back into the Treasurers Purse/Wallet in future
hence cuts and money making projects when I raised this matter with my
local MP’s and said good that should mean more future Council Tax Freezes
her non response was deafening as one would say talk about money grabbing
or what this reminds me of St Johnstone wanting £26 a ticket for a Tuesday
night SPL match next month they don’t financially miss you as the wealthy
Gentleman once said to me your damn tooting that’s for sure
Newco may actually be providing the venue free . Celtic do for some events.
of for the night bhoys and ghirls take care
hail hail
Big-Cup-Winners – No problem. lack of consultation rankled. If it’s beneficial to their learning, I don’t have an issue. The irony though was my first impression. Thought maybe they were getting them in to do the books – ‘ cause they couldn’t……
Mighty Tim – not inclined to remove my child, which is why I asked on here. If it’s beneficial to their learning, I don’t have an issue.
tomcourtney
Contact Celtic TV at webhelp@celticfc.com , I am sure they will help you out with your questions. I believe they answer technical queries fairly quickly.
Hail Hail
Big-Cup-Winners – No problem. lack of consultation rankled. If it’s beneficial to their learning, I don’t have an issue. The irony though was my first impression. Thought maybe they were getting them in to do the books – ‘ cause they couldn’t……
Ah right ! Suppose that would’ve provided a decent excuse when titles are being stripped from the Deady Bears. Too late this time and hopefully the pain and shame will be meted out .
Big-Cup-Winners
I wish for much pain and shame. Have equipped said child with a scientific calculator and a portable shredder for the first visit this week. Do you think they’ll get the joke? Hehehe…
Hoopsmon
Sorry was busy with weans there.
If you mail me at hamiltontim@hotmail.co.uk I’ll give you some details tomorrow mate. Just off to bed now.
After watching Juventus Italian cup semi defeat 2-1 to Lazio earlier tonight.
I am of the opinion they have a few weaknesses they aren’t the best at defending cross balls.
They cannot finish there dinner.
Play a very narrow tight and through the middle of park system more so when there attacking right back is not selected.
I hope this form continues and our good form returns in time for our tie next month.
AKBW1888
That’s another dimension altogether!! Thanks for the responses – all appreciated – and I have calmed down.