We won the game, so this is not sour grapes, and the goal which gave St Johnstone the lead was a lesson in defensive failures: Matt O’Riley should have cleared the ball, Joe Hart should have commanded his six yard box, both carry a lot of responsibility for the goal.
However, Matt had to break free from a shirt hold to even get to the ball and the St Johnstone player who won the ball one yard in front of goal did so with his arm, which was fully extended from his body. There is no need to fire off into a ‘They’re all against us’ rant, this may well be true, but it does not matter. What is without doubt is that our refereeing and video assisted refereeing is not good enough.
There is so much shirt pulling in the game that referees and VARs could effectively decide the outcome of any game they choose. Sometimes it is punished, on other occasions it is not. Matt O’Riley was ‘unlucky’ in this respect yesterday.
The handball rule is clearer. Play the ball with your hand or arm when it is extended from your body inside the box, and you can expect VAR to get involved. It is inexplicable that such an event led to the opening goal yesterday.
VAR has not made our game worse, it is not the thing that has enabled one team to benefit, what it has done is turn the spotlight onto something which has been going on for a century. We need VAR because we need its spotlight in order to drive improvement. There was no way referee Don Robertson could be accused of turning a blind eye to yesterday’s handball. He was unsighted and it happened too quick.
The VAR on the other hand? It is just not good enough. The SFA are trolling us if they pretend otherwise. And for the record, I don’t believe the apparent randomness of outcomes is random.
It is a great benefit to know what your opponent will do. Celtic absolutely know what our next several opponents will do at corner kicks. They will put a wide-bodied player on Joe Hart. Unless things change, Greg Taylor will attempt to out-muscle that player and prevent him from inhibiting Joe. Joe will be unable to command his six-yard box. What happens next is anyone’s guess, but the likelihood of a goal being scored is far higher than the paltry 3% industry standard.
Armed with this knowledge, we should never be fragile from a similar situation again.
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Trolling is very kommon.
RC
No. They have not been allowed in for any reason as far as I am aware.
RC
I hope not
As far as we can see from the public statements there has been no apology or act of contrition from them
Except from biting of the hand that feeds them/allows them a podium for their noise
Until they change their stance, I would have thought they will be on the outside looking in
In 2 or 3 years I expect them to fade to a distant memory
Outwith their magnificent support (and it is magnificent)
They are a nuisance
Saint Stivs
Tom mcLaughlan
And
Petec
I deleted your accounts on cqn and may have blocked your emails
The deleted accounts just delete your logins and not all the many useful and not so useful posts you made
If you can’t set up an account with the emails you originally logged in with
Then set up new gmail accounts and set up new cqn accounts with them (the trolls have been doing exactly that for years…….)
Then they have been blocked
BIGBHOY on 4TH DECEMBER 2023 5:40 PM
Have you heard of diplomacy? These signings are not of BR’s making, Mark Lawwell is Head of Recruitment, and were well down the road of completion before Brendan came in
Clunk.
Why should the Green Brigade apologise for a load of lies?
If you weren`t so far up yourself you would know that.
The Green Brigade probably know that antisemitism is used as a trick to silence any questioning of Israel, especially after the recent public campaign of lies for 5 whole years that was used to crush the right honourable leader of HM opposition, Mr Jeremy Corbyn.
It is a horrible subject but it is also used as a trick, according to, Shulamit Aloni, a MP in Isreal who had George Galloway and other `real` left wingers from back in the day at her home were she told Mr Galloway that they used the AS trick to silence opponents!
You are proving that you are a worse judge than you are as a moderator, maybe get yourself another job eh?
Hopefully you`ll find what this lady said in here….after that you should do the honourable thing, call the PLC antisemites and resign!
https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1906/S00076/dont-be-caught-out-by-the-trick.htm
418 Will show the other mod how to delete you shengus
And block your profile
Clunks
Rather than thinking about the green brigade coming back to create atmosphere, the rest of the support should get right behind the team and generate the noise.
My impression from the AGM was that Brendan Rogers was not only happy with the players who had been brought in but that HE had the last word on signings.
GARYGILLESPIESHAMSTRING
Exactamundo
I’m guessing when Brendan says he has the last word, the scenario is more like this:
Brendan “I need a goalie, a left back and a striker”
The Board “Brendan, we have player a and player b for goalie, player c and player d for left back, and player e and player f for striker”
Brendan “I’ll have players a, c and f”
Voila, Brendan has last word on who we sign
31003
Outside Ange and the asian market wwe have had so much success in??
I would imagine every club in the country is run the same way
Am sure there are players who managers have “known” about in their previous years in the game
But they are outliers
And fr from the norm
Brendan also said that if the players available to come weren’t what he needed, he wouldn’t sanction the signings.
Wage demands, transfer fees being demanded and willingness to come to Scotland were also factors
One must imagine that the smaller fringe sites have changed their logging protocol.
The new EPL deal from 2025 is a lot of money
But when you divide it by 4 and get £1.65bn pa
And then divide that by 20 and get £80mill pa
Throw in inflation
And 270 matches pa
Doesn’t seem such a great deal to me
CELTIC MAC on 4TH DECEMBER 2023 9:22 PM
The new EPL deal from 2025 is a lot of money
But when you divide it by 4 and get £1.65bn pa
And then divide that by 20 and get £80mill pa
Throw in inflation
And 270 matches pa
Doesn’t seem such a great deal to me
Yet we’re forever told the team finishing last earns ‘£100m
*SENTINEL CELTS PLAYER OF THE YEAR 2023-24*
*RESULTS FROM GAME #21 – ST JOHNSTONE 1 CELTIC 2 (McGREGOR, O’RILEY, FORREST)*
Good evening, friends.
Firstly, a wee mention again that from now on the voting will close at 9.00pm (1 hour earlier than before) on the evening following each game. I occasionally have some very early morning grandparenting issues so it’s easier setting this new deadline for all games, rather than chopping and changing game by game. Results will usually then be out around 9.30pm. And now on to yesterday’s match.
I only saw the first half live, watching the 2nd half early this morning but having already known the score. I thought we played some decent, quick paced stuff in the opening 15 minutes but as soon as St Johnstone decided to try to come out of their own half the mood quickly changed. And I wasn’t surprised when we went behind following more poor set-piece defending.
Very few folk were surprised when Yang was taken off at half time but conversely were very surprised by Mikey Johnston’s 45 minutes. Most of our play went down the right hand side and although not everything came off, Johnston kept plugging away and delivering into the box. But for me the game really changed when Oh replaced Turnbull resulting in Kyogo dropping a bit deeper. Plenty of good link up play with a smattering of flicks and tricks and suddenly we were playing with real pace and desire. A goal was coming and duly arrived on the 67th minute from a fine sweet strike by Calum from the edge of the box. 12 minutes later and an even better shot from Matt capped off a wonderful flowing move.
We maintained our well deserved, but slender lead as an additional 5 minutes were added. Halfway through stoppage time St Johnstone had a really good chance to score but Joe pulled of a very important save which I was pleased to see was reflected by some of the voters. A fine fast break straight up the park saw James Forrest score Celtic’s 3rd goal and finally secure the points.
We have now played 21 games, winning 12, drawing 4 and losing 5 with 40 goals scored and 23 conceded.
My thanks to the 74 who participated in this game’s poll. One votre only allowed me to record 2 votes as I didn’t understand who ‘Wee Jazzer’ was.
The total votes cast for each player are as follows, with my own nominations asterisked.
Hart: 5
Johnston, A: 3
Carter-Vickers*: 15
Scales: 6
Taylor: 0
McGregor: 50
O’Riley*: 36
Turnbull: 0
Yang: 0
Kyogo: 0
Palma: 1
Johnston, M*: 52
Oh: 44
Forrest: 7
Iwata: 2
And so, the players receiving POINTS for the game against St Johnstone are –
Johnston, M – 5 points
McGregor – 4 points
Oh – 3 points
O’Riley – 2 points
Carter-Vickers – 1 point
The overall positions after 21 games played are –
56 points – Scales
52 points – O’Riley
27 points – Carter-Vickers
25 points – McGregor
19 points – Kyogo and Palma
18 points – Maeda
16 points – Yang
14 points – Oh
12 points – Johnston, A
9 points – Nawrocki and Turnbull
8 points – Hart
6 points – Lagerbielke and Taylor
5 points – Hatate, Johnstone M and Ralston
4 points – Bain and Bernardo
1 point – Forrest and Holm
0 points – Abada, Bernabei, Haksabanovic, Iwata, Phillips, Starfelt, Tilio and Welsh
We continue in the league on Wednesday night when we entertain Hibs. Kick off is 7.45pm.
Hail Hail!
31003
Dont know if it did happen offhand.
But it aint happening now
Not only that the value per match is going down, quite a bit actually.
Ok nobody is going to go hungry any time soon
But the big cats are going to feel that way
CELTIC MAC on 4TH DECEMBER 2023 9:22 PM
It should be weighted ( winners getting larger % etc) and not a equal division by 20.
But 31003 offers another fair point too.
It’s just the domestic tv deal. They got the same again from overseas rights last time
The value of the domestic tv deal rose by 4%.
That’s only the domestic TV rights
prestonpans bhoys
More the big dogs get reduces the pot available for the rest.
And it will never be enough for those at the top
Why do you think six clubs signed up for the Euro Super league?
gene
Why should anybody pay top dollar?
They know any amount is a bonus.
Amazon pulled out completely of the domestic deal
they know they can knock it down on the overseas
In case it hasn’t been mentioned, very good news about injuries today.
Palma had cramp not a bad hammy
Abada and Madea are both training on the grass, Maeda is just ahead of Abada in his recovery, both should see game time this month
Reo’s recovery going well
Nawrocki and Tilio both fit and looking to get into the team
Nearly a fully fit squad for the first time this season.
Mowbray bagged by Sunderland
took it on the chin
celtic40me
All good news for us! Looks as if we will have a pretty decent squad going into the second half of the season.
If we have a good December we won’t need to sign any new players mid winter. Lets leave that until next summer, and then make the signings really count.
Sign the players now ,leave until the summer could. be too late HH
Rumour is that we are looking at Jake O’Brien
MCPHAIL BHOY on 4TH DECEMBER 2023 4:57 PM
Big Jimmy and others of course
Wednesday’s game against Hibs is on PPV on Celtic Tv, discount to subscribers at £9.99
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Cheers Mate.
HH.
Good morning all from a quite mild Garngad, thank goodness.
2 up top tomorrow night against Hibs, qhy wouldnt you.
Get to January and give Yang a break and bring in a quality winger.
We can afford it.
D :)
MCPHAIL BHOY on 4TH DECEMBER 2023 4:57 PM
Big Jimmy and others of course
Wednesday’s game against Hibs is on PPV on Celtic Tv, discount to subscribers at £9.99
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I have just purchased Celtic PPV for the game v Hibs at £12.99.
I have never been given a ” DISCOUNT CODE”, when I book Celtic PPV on an ” INDIVIDUAL” basis.
I can only assume that a ” DISCOUNT CODE” will apply for anyone who Pays/Subscribes for a WHOLE Season ?
I dont mind paying £12.99….to save any complications when ordering.
HH
DAVID66 on 5TH DECEMBER 2023 6:20 AM
Good morning all from a quite mild Garngad, thank goodness.
2 up top tomorrow night against Hibs, qhy wouldnt you.
Get to January and give Yang a break and bring in a quality winger.
We can afford it.
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I agree.
We are at Celtic Park….We are CELTIC FC……..Play with TWO Up Front from the start and MOLLY KATE the opposition.
Strike terroir into the oppositions hearts from the first whistle…NAE MESSIN !
HH
TERROR….NOT ” terroir”>
HH
FANADPATRIOT on 4TH DECEMBER 2023 11:22 PM
Rumour is that we are looking at Jake O’Brien
…………
Maybe ” JAKE the PEG” would be a better option ?
A Striker with THREE Legs….not Two.
LOL
HH
AIPPLE on 4TH DECEMBER 2023 1:54 PM
BIG JIMMY on re: Abada and Maeda
That has cheered me up!
Hope you are well good sir.
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Cheers ” PIERCE”.
Sadly I have developed constant ( and painful ) Sneezing and Coughing in the last Two days.
I had to Postpone my FLU JAG appointment for this morning…and I will also have to postpone my appointment with my Nurse that was due for Tomorrow as I cant go out anywhere feeling like this.
Every time I sneeze and/or cough, I feel that I am cracking a Rib.
I hope that you and the Family are all Fit and Healthy.
God Bless.
HH
Good morning from North Staffs ( don’t know what the weather’s like as haven’t opened the curtains yet)
Big Jimmy – take care