The truth about St Johnstone and Inverness

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St Johnstone have been a managerial proving ground in recent seasons.  Owen Coyle did a great deal of good work without achieving promotion to the SPL, but his two years there managed to sufficiently impress Burnley that they tempted him south.  The people of Burnley were probably as surprised as the rest of us when Own led them to the FA Premier League but five months into the season he jumped ship to Bolton Wanderers.

Coyle kept Bolton up in 2010 and again in 2011 but they slipped from the league last summer.  Poor form in the Championship soon turned sentiment against the manger and he was relieved of his duties in October.

Derek McInnes followed Coyle at St Johnstone and brought them into the SPL in his first full season but 15 months ago, after being touted for several jobs in England, he left for Bristol City, who, bottom of the Championship, sacked him today.

Steve Lomas is St Johnstone’s current manager and the latest to impress clubs south of the border offering larger pay-packets.  He would be foolish to accept a job from a struggling club who have sacked their manager mid-season.  As we have said several times before, managers receive a great deal of credit or blame but the success of a football club is infinitely more dependent on the entire structure of the club.

St Johnstone’s structure is just fine.  The same is true of Inverness, where Terry Butcher decided to stay this week, as well as Ross County and Motherwell.  The city clubs, Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts, Dundee United and Dundee all churn through seasons as compulsive underachievers.  If they were able to do something about this fact our league would be the envy of most.

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  1. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    The ECA are like sevco….. A new ‘club’…….

  2. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    excathedra44

     

     

    15:13 on

     

    13 January, 2013

     

     

    Have you just landed from another planet…?

  3. Ulysses McGhee

     

     

    Re the decline of Liverpool. Have not really been watching the Man U v Liverpool but know the score. I think that Liverpool has never truly recovered from the twin disasters of the eighties in Heysel and Hillsborough. The first tarnished them and more pertinently banished them from European competition for six years. They had been the best in Europe in the era 76-85 and although they remained a superb team in the four years following Heysel they could not measure themselves against the best Europe had to offer- the great Milan side.

     

     

    Hillsborough is too well known as a pivotal moment( and I am too inarticulate )Liverpool’s history for me to say more than that it’s significance in football terms was to lead directly to the eventual resignation of Kenny Dalglish as manager in 1991 and the appointment of Souness as manager which turned out to be a major mistake for the Reds. One from which they have never truly recovered. The victory over Milan – fabulous but also a fluke- did not see them return to anything like the top of the English game. They have not had one truly top class manager in 28 years – one savvy enough to outwit Ferguson

     

     

    I am something of a Liverpool sympathiser but nothing in their recent history suggests that their fortunes will change in the next few years. Sad.

     

     

    Watching Juve just now. If we can avoid giving away free kicks in Pirlo range I think we might do ok

     

     

    Jimbo

  4. Excathedra

     

     

    Hooper’s contract situation doesn’t detract from his abilities as a footballer

     

     

    Sturridge is an outrageously over valued over paid player…a very lucky boy IMO

     

     

    Mind you the Liverpool team is riddled with over valued players …Allen , Henderson ,Sturridge …..not to mention Carroll …

     

     

    However, for what it’s worth if Hooper doesn’t want to sign up then I’d sell him too …..

  5. Neville gives Wellbeck MOTM….is he on the bevvy or something …..haven’t seen Wellbeck contribute much to the game

  6. ulysses mcghee

     

    15:17 on

     

    13 January, 2013

     

    And Sturridge misses a sitter…

     

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    You must be a Daily Record man,selective reporting,he has transformed L’Pool second half.

     

     

    All about opinions of course.

  7. Just heard some devastating news about a young man called Adam Bain who played for Gartcosh amateurs in the Caledonian Laegue.Iam not sure of the full details but it appears he collapsed during a game yesterday and spent last night in hospital where he sadly passed away today, he was only 31 years old.

     

    Spare a thought for him and his family,his fellow club members,his opponents and the referee.

     

    If you have a god please pray for them if you do not please keep him in your thoughts.

     

     

    R.I.P. Adam Bain

  8. South Of Tunis on

    Parma 0—Juve 1.

     

     

    @ 60 minutes gone.

     

     

    Pirlo . Free kick . Right foot.

     

     

    Juve yet again demonstrating why they want to buy a centre forward

  9. TBB

     

     

    There may or may not be a way round the Bosman ruling in terms of the way the individual player’s contract would be written but it’s worth looking at.

     

     

    e.g. – £6K wage = 50+% tax/ N.I. etc – however footballers enjoy personal pension plans (that mature much earlier than us plebs) – it could be that a % of the earnings could be put in trust for them.

     

     

    They benefit from; 1) immediate financial security (mortgage availability etc),

     

    2) development of their skills within their home environment,

     

    3) a retirement fund/ income that provides for them when their playing days are over.

     

     

    Pretty sure that there are a number of other incentives that could make the scheme more attractive to the youth player – before he gets snared by the agent!

  10. ….PFayr

     

    15:23 on

     

    13 January, 2013

     

     

    Thats a fair assessment,I just cannot abide players using the Club then bailing out.

     

    Yes I know its not just Hooper,I can go back a bit!!

  11. excathedra44

     

     

    Agreed, I thought Sturridge played extremely well when he came on for the second half but aslo need to give credit to Rodgers for changing the shape of his team and putting man Utd under more pressure

  12. Daniel Sturridge? Tony Watt is a far better player even now at his age.Hooper would complement Suarez more with his movement.Having watched that match Valencia is a class act, and it’s a pity that Celtic didn’t get Utd in the draw.Fergie certainly wouldn’t field a second eleven against Celtic as he did against the Norwegian Blue.

  13. ulysses mcghee

     

    15:27 on

     

    13 January, 2013

     

    excathedra

     

     

    why, did he not miss a sitter?

     

     

    u

     

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    Yes of course my point was he also scored.EX

  14. Excathedra44

     

    I’m deadly serious.

     

     

    Sturridge scored 13 goals in 63 games for Chelsea

     

    5 in 21 for Man city

     

    8 for 12 at Bolton

     

    Now 2 for 2 for Liverpool which is impressive.

     

    He may go on to be the better player but at present he is not

     

    Hooper has scored a far better goals to game ratio and has had success in Europe against quality defenders

  15. jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on

    I think Hooper is for the off!! Neil said 2 weeks ago that his agent was coming up to sort things out. They havnt.

  16. South Of Tunis on

    Parma 1 —-Juve 1

     

     

    Juve opened up by a quick break and a good through ball . They are vulnerable to a counter attack . They badly miss Chiellini

  17. South Of Tunis on

    Lazio 2 up on Atalanta——–if things stay as they are ——Juve’s lead at the top of Serie A will be 3 points .

  18. •-:¦:-•** -:¦:- sparkleghirl :¦:-.•**• -:¦:-• on

    TMWTL

     

     

    Just saw a tweet about Goodbye to Ibrox – this is what it refers to I guess. Blimey.

  19. Ex

     

     

    I’m confused as to your logic re Sturridge and your anger towards Hooper.

     

     

    I’ve watched Sturridge’s past two games. He scored against smaller opponents and conspired to miss against them as well.

     

     

    He scored from a rebound today and missed two other chances.

     

     

    They paid 15 million for him – FIFTEEN MILLION!

     

     

    Rodgers changed Liverpool’s approach in the second half – that coupled with a poor Man United side, who play in spurts made the game more interesting.

     

     

    Sturridge had it in his grasp to hand his manager a point today.

     

     

    Plain and simple.

     

     

    And Hooper is a better, more intuitive, smarter player who doesn’t get caught up in the palaver of manufacturing goals, he gets on with the scoring of them.

     

     

    U

  20. I used to watch Liverpool in the late 70s and early 80s. They won about 6 titles and 3 European cups etc by passing the ball back to the keeper. Despite the romance and legend status, and I’m sure 99% of people on this forum are going to disagree with me, it was boring to watch. Once the pass back rule came in they were finished.

  21. If Sports Direct have bought the rights, the knuckle draggers will probably be fine as McMoist said he didnt thave any problems with it

     

     

    Talking of McMoist, his recent conversion to sporting intergrity when joining the bottom tier of the league missed one thing – England operate a pyramid structure, so Division Two isnt the lowest. I doubt the Conference teams would be happy if someone was parachuted in.

  22. Snake Plissken on

    And the funniest bit?

     

     

    The media will be forced to call it the Sport’s Direct Arena every time they are talking about it on TV – sponsors and all that.

     

     

    If it is true of course.

     

     

    Must be a new club. No way would they have renamed the old stadium with the old regime. Even Craigy Whyte wouldn’t have tried that trick.

  23. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    The biggest irony is SPORTS Direct is that it could EVER EVER be associated with bigotdome ……..right enough, though, it gives the orcs another reason to riot……

     

     

    But, it is just another indicator as to what greengo thinks about sevco, and where his priority lies…..to get as much money as possible in, and then fly oot….

  24. South Of Tunis on

    Parma 1 ——-Juve 1.

     

     

    Cue meltdown on Juve blogs –

     

     

    Drogba now !

     

    Llorente now !

     

    Lewandowski now .!

     

     

    Catania beat Roma –yes !

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