Turning gold into mud tricky for English clubs

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Owen Coyle has probably no idea the trouble caused in his name at Celtic.  Notions that his granny’s uncle’s cousin passed on verifiable information that either Owen rejected the Celtic job, or that he did so because he didn’t agree with the direction the club were going, were clearly nonsense at the time and are more evidently the case now.

Having just earned promotion to the English Premier League the man chose not to be interviewed for the Celtic position, a perfectly defendable decision.  He was never offered a job.  Coyle performed well at St Johnstone (without winning promotion) and did well at Burnley before managing an inevitable decline at Bolton.  He remains a good manager who I hope gets back into the game soon.

The Bolton lesson to football is stark.  On some levels the club was well run.  Good manager, good scouts, a small but faithful following, a chairman who could see the iceberg ahead, all signed up to the ambition to remain in top flight football, but their budget was forever under pressure.   Debts topped £100m, although the directors ensured public services didn’t suffer as a result of their ‘ambition’.

Three years ago Phil Gartside, the Bolton chairman, knew the model in the English game was unsustainable and tried to change things.  He failed, unfortunately, and was unable to produce a reverse alchemy – turning tens of millions of pounds from Sky TV each year into a 17th place finish in the Premier League.  I hope the change works for them.

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  1. No fewer than 35 Celtic players have been called up by their countries for internationals to be played this week-end and next week, as well as training camps – from full international sides to under-16s!

     

     

    Sounds as if this could be a world record!

     

     

    For so many players to be called up shows that the club must be doing something right – but, of course, the downside is always the threat of injuries. Fingers, and toes, crossed that they all come back fit and healthy!

     

     

    Must be honest and say that I am not a big fan of internationals – roll on next weekend and the St Mirren game, and then Barca!

     

     

    HH!!

  2. Philbhoy - It's just the beginning! on

    God help and bless wee Oscar.

     

     

    I’ll light a candle today at St Mike’s in lithgae for the wee man.

  3. Morning all. Bright and breezy here in North Ayrshire.

     

     

    While I am ambivalent about Kris Commons playing for Scotland (or indeed any of our international players representing their country), I have the feeling the Radio Scotland chappie who had to report it this morning was not at all happy. He mentioned it almost as an aside, tagged on to his bulletin. Another hurtin’ hun unable to hide his sympathies.

     

     

    By the bye, did Nevin pass mustard last night?

  4. Murdochbhoy, yermanfromMK on

    Good morning CQNers,

     

     

    Saddened to hear the latest news on Wee Oscar, may God protect him.

     

     

    Good to see the political equilibrium restored overnight with some great posts and links.

  5. Lennon n Mc....Mjallby on

    Does anybody have a link to the Jock Stein programme that is not the bbc iplayer?

     

     

    I cant get it because my.phone wont accept flash.

     

     

    Im hoping somebody has recorded it in another format.

     

     

    Much appreciated.

  6. Good morning CQN

     

     

    God bless wee Oscar and family

     

    Thoughts and prayers for them

     

     

     

    Keep the Faith

     

     

     

    Hail Hail

  7. Very saddened to here that Wee Oscar , and his family have another problem to contend with.

     

     

    My heartfelt thoughts are with them all.

     

     

    A67

  8. Blantyretim.

     

     

    I’ve just sent a text to johann.

     

     

    I was trying to get you,I fancy a wee meet up this week,a couple of swallies and a talk about Barcelona.

     

    Johann is going to get me a 125 year anniversary top,then give it to you, to give to me,but if I come into Glasgow this week,I could get it in the shop in Argyle St.

  9. .

     

     

    OldtTim..

     

     

    Caught Your reply to me the Other Day..

     

     

    Enjoy the Jaunt to Barca..Keep a Eye on the BT mind..:O)

     

     

    I’ll be Sitting here on My Front Porch Jealous of You all over there..As Per..

     

     

    Summa of PartTimeArmChairSupportersClubCSC

  10. Summa of Sammi.

     

     

    I think it will work the other way,BT keeping an eye out for me.

     

    Trying to get the Lisbon trip fixed up,I think it will be the Thomas Cook option,I spent a few days trying to get a flight that suits me,but every flight seemed to have a long stay over at Heathrow.

     

     

    I’d end up Drunk before I got to Lisbon, As I said,I’m going to go with the Thomas Cook option.

     

     

    I’ll give big Sammi a cheer for you.

  11. SUNNI CAMLACHIE on

    I pray that this is another

     

    challenge, and not a setback

     

    for wee Oscar…..

     

     

    Keep Celticing

     

    wee man…

  12. Very quiet today.

     

     

    Is everyone listening to the great Jock Stein Radio 5 programme?

     

     

    The Onlooker

  13. The Singing Detective

     

     

    23:49 on 9 October, 2012

     

     

    My Dear Kojo….

     

     

    I read A Review Of Bernard Cornwell’s Latest Book In The Media Last Week…

     

     

    “Battle Of Poitiers” ….In the 1300s….

     

     

    When The Black Prince & The English Crushed The Frenchies….

     

     

    Ye’ll Be Readin’ Nigel Tranter Next….

     

     

    And His ‘Faction’ Novels Bases On Scoddish History…..

     

     

    However…..The Books You Should Read

     

     

    The Byzantium Trilogy By Lord John Julius Norwich….

     

     

    Comes In Three Volumes…

     

     

    But There Is A Single Book ‘Short History Of Byzantium’,Based On The Trilogy….

     

     

    Shows What Can Happen When Christians Don’t Stand Together….

     

     

    As After The Disastrous Schism Between The Orthodox Church And Rome In 1054..

     

     

    An Event More Significant Even Than The Reformation…?

     

     

    The Sides Came Close To Full Reconciliation….

     

     

    As Constantinople..The Jewel Of Christendom…..

     

     

    And The Most Technologically Advanced Society On The Planet…

     

     

    Withstood Siege After Siege…

     

     

    Using ‘Wonder Weapons’ Like Flame-Throwers Mounted On Their Ships To Incinerate The Enemy Fleets….

     

     

    However,The Eternal City And The Hagia Sophia,First Cathedral Of Christendom…

     

     

    Would Fall To The Barbarians When The Pope & The Venetians Did Too Little Too Late….

     

     

    And A Christian Bulgarian Traitor Cast The Huge Cannon That Were Required For The Turks To Breach The Walls Of The Old City,The Second Rome….

     

     

    See What Happens When You Transfer Technology…..

     

     

    Set Back Civilisation For Centuries….

     

     

    And That’s Why You Don’t Have A ‘Ponderosa’ Ranch Oan Mars As Well….

     

     

    An’ Hiv Tae Share This Wee Blue Planet Wi’ Kilbowie Kelt….

     

     

    Right…?

     

     

    _____________________

     

     

     

    I have to thank the Mynah Bird’s Fawning Apprentice for showing me that my rejection of CQN’s Nazi Tendency has had the desired effect.

     

     

    It is nice to know that my efforts have not been in vain.

  14. That news about wee Oscar overnight is a big shame – wee guy’s had more than enough to deal with so hopefully just a short setback. Must remember to give my kids an extra hug tonight. Not sure I could ever be as brave as Oscar’s mum n dad.

     

     

    S

  15. If anyone has time, there’s an interesting article entitled, “Guilt by Association”, on newsnow’s Celtic page about a Celt who went to a Corinthians game in Brazil wearing a Celtic top. The colours are those of rivals Palmeiras.

  16. Catching up on the nightshift:

     

     

    Miki67 – hang your head in shame – getting put off here by the TSD. TSD, collie, kojo, whatever – scroll on by.

     

     

    Mags McGill & others – eat the rich? What’s the veggie option? Oh, that’ll be the Tories.

     

     

    S