Dictionaries across the English speaking world will need to be updated for the term ‘loose cannon’, currently- noun, a person whose reckless behaviour endangers the efforts or welfare of others. In future they should be appended, ‘Charles Green’.
For months Charles has been busy telling anyone who would listen to him that his The Rangers club will never appear in the Scottish Premier League. Now, he has told the world the Scottish Football League are set to propose reconstruction which would see the end of the SPL and create one fewer step between his new club and top flight football. He told TalkSport, “I understand that the Football League [presumably he means the SFL]on Wednesday are having a meeting of clubs and it’s the intention of the executive to unveil what they think would be a restructuring plan for Scottish football.”
Green is one of the few from the SFL who have had anything to do with the plan, few were aware of it until his announcement yesterday. I hear the other architects of the plan inside the SFL are chief executive, David Longmuir and Airdrie United director, Jim Ballantye. My source also told me SFA president, Campbell Ogilvie was “in on the ground floor with the SFL plans”. They will all, surely, be frustrated that Green was out there with the news before the league were.
As STV today reported, the SFA have set a deadline of 30 November for the leagues to agree a reconstruction plan, “threatening they would instead push through with their own plans to bring about change by the 2013/14 season if an agreement could not be reached”. That’s next summer!
Timing here is everything, and is urgent.
The SPL Commission will soon convene into Improper Registration of Players at Rangers…
the predecessor club of The Rangers…
whose SFA membership The Rangers benefited from in order to compete in league football with less than three years accounts…
and who consequently are liable for penalties served on Rangers.
If found guilty, and no one is holding to the pretence otherwise anymore, the consequences for The Rangers are enormous. Forget about the inevitable stripping of titles, this is of historical consequence only, prize money [of circa £15m]will also be reclaimed and a punishment levied.
As I have said before, the toxicity of the old club is simply not viable to continue with. Newco Rangers either have to start from scratch, or the structures of Scottish football need to brought down with any penalties due wiped from the slates.
The Rangers share prospectus, now overdue, will have to detail these risks to the company unless an alternative narrative can be agreed and presented.
The chances of the SPL giving this Longmuir, Ballantyne and Ogilvie plan serious consideration are remote. It is a nonsense, will be rejected by the SPL and may even face opposition from those clubs within the Scottish Football League who stand to benefit from the change, but will find the motivations behind it unsupportable.
Scottish football is enjoying a well-earned renewal this season, no thanks to the game’s administrators, but the serious allegation, that many leagues and cups were won for over a decade by a club which was paying players against the tax laws of the country and against SFA, SPL and Fifa regulations, has yet to be resolved.
Until we know the truth, hear the consequences, know that those responsible are no longer in control of the game and have been banned for life from future involvement, there can be no talk of expedient change.
STV’s revelation that the SFA have imposed a 30 November deadline is the greatest illustration yet why “heavily conflicted” Campbell Ogilvie should have been on garden leave months ago. All those who carried out the duties which led to this shambles, and who have legal responsibility for it, should receive the life ban from the game that was promptly applied to Craig Whyte.
A swift rebuttal of this nonsense with a clearing of the decks is required. There can be no discussions on these matters while inquiries are on-going and those responsible for recent events are still running the game.
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Reasons why sevco5088 need to obliterated and as soon as possible:
It is Green and his cohorts that are the driving force in the reconstruction. Whilst there is a chance, whether small or large of a team in blue playing at ibrox, the likes of Green will not rest. As long as there is a team playing in blue at ibrox and have “Rangers” in their name it will in my opinion give them the platform to portray themselves as the team that was and always will be “Rangers”.
I accept the oldco is dead and will eventually be liquidated but it gives them something to hold onto and to claim to be something they are not.
The 30th November deadline is another indicator in my opinion that indicates Green is the driving force as it would allow him to include the fact they would play in the top division to investors. And incidentally where is the prospectus.
To you, me and those like minded they are dead but to the world they will overtly at least, appear to be bigger and stronger, even though they are skint.
Whilst we are on their share issue apart from their fans, who is going to invest in sevco5088. No football club makes money, nobody invests in a football club as an investment and to make money. Except that is if you are trying to make a fast buck like Green.
As for Ogilvie, proof if anything that he is their man on the inside if indeed he was involved in the ground work for the St. Andrew;s agreement.
Apologies for the ramble but I have the bit between my teeth again, haven’t really bothered with sevco5088 much but Green/sevco5088 brings out the worst in me.
I will never ever darken their doorstep again, even if it is to celebrate our 141st anniversary and to celebrate we are older than them.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
NO NO NO
What’s really been annoying me today is the slow realization (as in me being slow to realize) that it’s becoming more and more the norm within the hun media – all of them – that anyone referring to rangers as a new club with no history is simply a twisted bigot with a pro Celtic agenda. This needs to be confronted head on at every opportunity with a calm reasonable presentation of the facts – i.e. they were liquidated on Halloween and Charles Green has formed a Newco – fact! We cant let them get away with this easily – we need to fight it.
Earlier in the year, a couple of the Green Brigade members started up a new
fanzine called The Thunder, featuring loads of Celtic, fan, Ultra and
group-related articles,stories and pictures.
Due to its links with the group, Strathclyde Police decided to throw their
weight about and arrested fanzine sellers in an attempt to put the fanzine
off the road. Like our group, the bhoys wouldnt be beaten and relaunched
the fanzine for the 2012/13 season.
The brilliant third issue has just been published and the bhoys have put
Issue Two online, free for all to read. It features some cracking stuff
like the author Padraig Coyle on Belfast Celtic, our own expat Green
Bastard on Celtic in the States and great interviews with ex-Celt John
Collins and Ultras Frankfurt. You can find it here:
http://www.calameo.com/read/00150802091f1b17bf994
£5 from all subscriptions goes directly to the Green Brigade so if you like
what you read make sure you buy yourself a hard copy and youll be the
first to receive future issues.
Green Brigade
Fortunes Favour Mibbes
19:29 on 13 November, 2012
Kilbowie Kelt @ 19:22
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I totally agree.
But we have to show in some tangible way, exactly how Celtic men feel .
I would still like to have somebody who is computer literate to collate what a Celtic site is saying.
Waiting for daughter up toon,15 mins of snyde,Scotland holds record for highest
concentration of fuds per capita.
http://glasgowradio.blogspot.co.uk/
estorilbhoy
:) Not a poison likely to be eaten on a daily basis however – unlike the wife’s cooking.
Sevco’s IPO Powerpoint Slidedeck,
https://skydrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=7241D12A18C19C59!387&app=PowerPoint
Make of It what you will, I see alot of bull myself.
In case anybody is still in any doubt, it is a no from me…:)
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
EXCLUSIVE: Millionaire owners plot new rule to stop players and agents pocketing profits from £5bn TV deal
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Premier League owners, including Roman Abramovich and the Glazer family, are close to agreeing a crackdown on players’ wages.
Talks have already taken place between all 20 top-flight clubs about introducing their own version of financial fairplay and a formal outline could be agreed later this month when Premier League chairmen meet in London on November 15.
There is a growing desire among the Premier League’s international owners to keep a big slice of what could be £5billion from the new television deals that start next year, rather than see it all go to players and their agents.
They are about to agree new rules on ‘wage restraint’, prohibiting clubs from increasing their wage bill by more than five per cent annually. Clubs spent £1.5bn on wages in 2010-11, 69 per cent of their income, and they had debts of £2.4bn, more than the amount they brought in.
Among the more radical proposals is that member clubs should be made to break even, something that even UEFA’s fairplay rules do not insist on. And West Ham chairman David Gold wants a points deduction for those whose debt exceeds a certain level of turnover.
Significantly, there is a will among even the richest owners — Abramovich at Chelsea and Sheik Mansour at Manchester City — to stop making huge losses. And the new breed of American owners — John W Henry (Liverpool), Ellis Short (Sunderland), Stan Kroenke (Arsenal), the Glazers (Manchester United) and Randy Lerner (Aston Villa) — are desperate to see a return on their investment.
Premier League clubs made cumulative losses of £361million, according to figures for 2010-11, with City (£197m), Chelsea (£68m), and Liverpool (£49m), most in the red.
An historic agreement by clubs would mark the end of escalating salaries enjoyed by elite players since the Premier League began in 1992. And that would be welcomed by ordinary fans who feel the gravy train has created a generation of stars who are out of touch.
By using ‘wage restraint’ rather than ‘wage cap’, club bosses hope changes will be palatable to the Professional Footballers’ Association.
The average wage for a Premier League player was £1,755 a week 20 years ago but had risen to nearly £35,000 per week in 2010.
Since then, it has gone up again, with United agreeing packages of more than £200,000 a week — more than £10m a year — for Wayne Rooney and Robin van Persie. And there are fears that players will want even more after the three-year deals secured by BT Vision and Sky.
An insider said: ‘There is a consensus from nearly every club that something needs to happen before the new TV deal takes effect next season. It doesn’t make sense for clubs to carry on losing money when so much revenue is being generated. It’s looking likely some form of agreement will be found.
Executives from all top-flight clubs met in September in three regional meetings. But the get-together in 11 days is the first real chance for formal progress.
Fourteen of the 20 clubs have to agree to a new rule and it is believed only Fulham are explicitly against any form of financial fairplay, with chairman Mohamed Fayed worried the restrictions would deter a potential buyer in the future.
UEFA FFP rules allow clubs to make losses of €45m over three years. Many would like it to be compulsory for clubs to break even but a compromise might have to be reached.
Clubs like City, who have invested hugely since a takeover in 2008, would be given time to meet requirements and newly-promoted clubs would also be given dispensation on the five-per-cent wage rule.
With negotiations at a delicate stage, most chairmen are reluctant to go into too much detail, but West Ham’s Gold was candid for the website, Huffington Post.
We need to regulate spending, reduce debt and ensure profit — and quickly,’ he said. ‘We have to stop clubs running up debt or we’ll have an even more desperate situation. We can’t have clubs running with large percentage of debt against their turnover.
‘The lower leagues have implemented new regulation, and the Premier League must do the same.
‘I would propose that there is a robust and clear debt cap — enforced by a transfer ban on incoming players or a points deduction.
‘Of the bottom 12 clubs in the PL most will lose money and three will be relegated. But with proper governance, those 12 clubs, including the three to be relegated, could make £100m. It’s infinitely more desirable to get relegated having made £10m than having lost £10m.
“I smell s****!”
HH!!
Just got outbid on a ticket for the cycling on saturday at the Sir Chris Hoy velodrome.
The winning bid? £16.90
Bloody Huns
kmcbride
can’t wait to see the spoofs or an awe nawed version
FourGreenFields 19:33:
Passed on your message and details to Embramike. See you Saturday mate,
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Excellent caller on SSB – using a spreadsheet to rip the Armageddon agenda to shreds.
One more articulate caller on the banned list – pundits cannot stomach any form of agreement with the (correct) points being made.
S
kmcbride
19:38 on
13 November, 2012
Sevco’s IPO Powerpoint Slidedeck,
https://skydrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=7241D12A18C19C59!387&app=PowerPoint
Make of It what you will, I see alot of bull myself.
I love the up to date valuations of Ipox and Murray Park, I am sure BDO will be impressed :-)
At a rough count I make it
YES….. 0
No….. 18.
The first caller on SSB every night is a plant……..FACT
kmcbride
19:38 on
13 November, 2012
Sevco’s IPO Powerpoint Slidedeck,
https://skydrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=7241D12A18C19C59!387&app=PowerPoint
Make of It what you will, I see alot of bull myself.
—
Should slide 1 not be labelled ‘Once Upon a Time ‘.
Good to know Govan site is valued at £65m looks as though creditors have been protected by administrators selling the whole shebang for £5.5m.
Hail! Hail!
Maybe the NO vote will pick up when SSB finishes.
On joint sponsorship.
If Celtic were to go it alone then so too would sevco.
There are absolutely no circumstances under which sevco would receive a better single sponsorship deal than us.
Joint sponsorship serves to benefit only one club, and that club gets enough assistance from all and sundry without getting any help from us.
As Fleetwood Mac would say, Go your own way!
voguepunter
19:35 on
13 November, 2012
Waiting for daughter up toon,15 mins of snyde,Scotland holds record for highest
concentration of fuds per capita.
Brilliant
Oh KK
That will be NO
Kmcbride – the shorthand version as follows;
Mono = one
Rail = rail
KK – no.
Kilbowie Kelt
Hope this works. I’ve already voted No :))
http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=50a2a4c5e4b007bdc40ae57c
I could have knocked up a more impressive PP presentation in my lunch break than that attempt.
Their main selling point is the possible league reconstruction and the slim to zero chance of being allowed to leave the national association.
My favourite part though is the map of the world that shows the locations of the 5 million strong fan base. I never knew Oldco or Sevco were so popular in Bolivia and Peru!
Back to work now. Hail hail everyone.
on the vote , nope from me, hope I or my kid never have to see or hear them again,,,dead and stay dead,,RIP and take your filth and bile with you…
no
NO
Feck was thinking of applying for a job in Peru , rip that application form up!!
By the way KK, eh….NO
Kilbowie Kelt
It’s a resounding “NO” from the South Side of Paisley.
how do their books look
Didn’t paddington the bear come from peru?
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire
It may not be perfect democracy, but the AGM resolution process is the only one the club is bound by and so carries any authority.
On your charge of laziness that would only be true if they were messing about doing nothing. That is not the case in my experience. I have said on many occasions it is a capacity issue and with most income until now going on to the park that was inevitable.
I think it no conicidence that with CL income and high value assets we are now seeing money spent elsewhere and I think further investment in improving internal capacity would pay dividends.
estorilbhoy
19:50 on 13 November, 2012
Thats what I thought too, I was also amazed that there brave enough to claim the history as there own when It’s clearly not, stupid stupid sevconians.
That’s it they are looking at countries with the most bears
Fortunes Favour Mibbes
19:54 on 13 November, 2012
You won’t believe it, but that YES vote was ME misunderstanding the format.
:¬)))
There is no sense being THICK,… & not showing it.