When the wealthy borrow from the poor

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Sell fans a ticket, you owe them a game of football.  Whether the standard or result it good or bad, it’s a relatively easy commitment to keep.  That’s what fans get in return for spending money on a ticket.

Sell people shares, you owe them a share certificate.  That’s what shareholders get in return for coughing up for shares.

Borrow money from fans and you owe them much more than a game of football or a share certificate.  In many instances that money will have come from people who had to forgo things to provide you with the loan.  You owe them a duty of care that their loan will be repaid, or converted with their agreement.

It beggars belief that an unsecured loan has been offered to Rangers International by fans group, Rangers First.  If, as claimed, the obligations to Sports Direct have been met, the club will have both the ability and the incentive to pass the securities previously held by Sports Direct to the fans group.  The club’s IP, training ground and ancillary assets should now be unencumbered, who better to have security over these critical parts of the club than a fans group?

Unless, of course, the obligations to Sports Direct have not been met.  Or someone else has their eye on the assets.

The claim that Dave King would match Rangers First’s loan took me by surprise.  This was counter to everything I knew and expected of him.  His swift denial was more consistent with expectations.

There is an axiom in football: Any club who has enriched a PR individual to the tune of £500k in the last year is making a serious attempt to divert it’s fans attention.  Celtic’s PR machine deals with the efficient communication of football information and financial reports.  Nothing whatsoever is spend attempting to lead the news agenda.  This often leaves us on the receiving end of that agenda, but we have nothing to hide.  Which is the way it should be.

Few sights in business or football can be more alarming than when purportedly wealthy people borrow money from poorer people.  The warning signs are writ as tall as the Ibrox stands.  This time there is no hidden Ticketus deal people can claim they didn’t know about.

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  1. GuyFawkesaforeverhero on

    Margaret McGill on 10th January 2016 2:10 am

     

     

    Thanks for that. I’m one of those few music lovers who have the bands’ first uk 7inch,. White paper sleeve, poguemahone on the disc ( and then they became The Pogues)

  2. GuyFawkesaforeverhero on

    Margaret McGill on 10th January 2016 2:16 am

     

     

    Pathetic.

     

     

    No harm meant to you, I’m tired of reading Celtic naysayers generally. I like my team.

  3. I tried not to drink this weekend.

     

     

    Sadly I failed, as soon as My Sons game was called off at the K-Park, I went and got one of those less than full Bottles of Vodka.

     

     

    What a Video that nails it.

     

     

    Anti Christian

     

     

    Christianity has been ridiculed in the West lately….. Incoming!!!!!!

     

     

    It’s ok, Honestly it’s ok.

     

     

    We are all Still Worshipping our Christian God now?

     

     

    Yeshua.csc

  4. Margaret McGill on

    GuyFawkesaforeverhero on 10th January 2016 2:35 am

     

     

    I love my team.

     

    Meddling has reduced Celtic to self fulfilling parody.

     

    Like a lot on here.

  5. So

     

     

    Fitba wise it is Konami vs EA

     

     

    Disgusted to see that Konami have followed EA the whole way. Back then Konami was Pure dead good at the Fitba games.

     

     

    Morrisons/Sainsbury/AsDa – and here is a scoop Price war? ffs m8 the price went to 89.9 back in the last crash.

     

     

    Celtic are in a horrible situation, we just need to be True, there is no way we can be marketed alongside haters.

     

     

    Well keep rolling up.

     

     

    Everyone knows now.

  6. And where the feck does the UN come into all this Globalism, especially now Francis has empowered that organisation beyond Belief.

     

     

    ;))

  7. Shimon Perez.

     

     

    Barry Chamish has a lot of jibber jabber about him, I reckon important info.

     

     

    Youcan’taffordtolivewithoutChristasyourKing.csc

  8. GuyFawkesaforeverhero on

    Margaret McGill on 10th January 2016 2:43 am

     

     

    I reject the general thrust of your opinion, obviously.

     

     

    I’ll never make a broad sweep of my own views to brush aside those Celts who disagree with me. See me at the games 143 at home, red, white and blue Red Sox hat away. I don’t hide.

  9. HebCelt

     

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    Watched the BBC Alba stuff….I’m a wee bit confused about, what the connection / relevance is ?

     

    If it’s the lassie that does all the selfless work(A relative maybe?)…just watch that she’s not on here any time soon crying her eyes out if she dizny get a ticket:)

     

    Nah, seriously the club is well run and, the program is an eye opener as to, what can be achieved when a community operate from the same page.

     

    The manager – Murdo – that has to be an omen:)

     

    Not too keen on his assistant though with the zombie tammy on:)

     

    Watching this, put me in mind of when I was a wee bhoy and, me and my buddies used to got watch Blantyre Celtic…as wee bhoys, we were totally unaware of the work that goes in to keep these teams ticking over.

     

    Conclusion – A guid watch.

     

    Hail Hail.

  10. Rangers* died but……they didny ?

     

    Anyway….way back in the day….Celtic were about to be thrown out of Scottish football for flying the tricolor.

     

    Rangers* said that would be wrong and, shouldn’t happen.

     

    Round about 60 years later….Rangers* died(?)….but, they didny really….coz, the ‘only’ way that they would have died would have been if…..Celtic FC walked out the game and told the world what was going on in Scotland and, Scottish football.

     

    Alas….Celtic FC, looked the other way and, allowed Rangers* to come back in through Div 3 and, work their way back.

     

    Now, I don’t know what kind of state Celtic FC will be in next season when, Rangers* return but, wouldn’t it be ironic if, Ronny plunged Celtic into such a mess this season(don’t rule it out) that, it took the return of Rangers* to reverse Celtic’s terminal decline….a managed decline imho…timed perfectly for the return of….The Old Firm….yeah…ironic, maybe, stage-managed….probably….imho.

     

    John Collins knows that, Celtic without huns to skelp are no longer, the hero of the underdog.

     

    Celtic without the huns will….die.

     

    Celtic Park without the Jungle died.

     

    TOTP’s without Legs & Co…..died.

     

    Don’t ‘ever’ forget….Ranger* will never be allowed to die coz, the Celtic board won’t kill them.

     

    You buy a ticket…..you support the Celtic board.

     

    There have been 3 deceitful basturts in Celtic’s recent history.

     

    McCann, who chased away all the rebels…after he took your money.

     

    Desmond, who was brought in by McCann.

     

    Lawwell, who was brought in by Desmond.

     

    Remember when MO’N tried to tell yeez all those years ago that, Celtic would now be operating in the slow lane(as news of PL’s return kicked-in)….well, look at it now…….

     

    ….zzzzzzzz……..

  11. Good Morning CQN

     

    Safe trip to and from Stranraer

     

    For today’s game sing loud and proud

     

     

    Come on you Bhoys in Green and White

     

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    Mt

  12. Seems like John Collins was talking thems up.

     

     

     

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    HAVE YOUR SAY

     

    IT is the issue that dare not speak its name for John Collins. Does the Celtic assistant wonder what fate would befall him and manager Ronny Deila were they to be on the receiving end of Scottish Cup catastrophe at Stranraer this afternoon? “Never contemplate it. Never think like that. You can’t think like that,” said Collins.

     

     

    The reality is that the position of Deila – and therefore coaches Collins, inset below, and John Kennedy – is sufficiently fragile, following European failures and recent faltering form, to leave them unable to survive an almighty cup shock. Collins, even if he couldn’t say so publicly, knows that. This is new territory for a Celtic management team on course to capture their second-successive title, but Collins won’t even go as far as to say that a treble would preserve their employment status and give them a third crack at the Champions League qualifiers. “We want the Treble. Need it? We certainly want it. Time will tell. We nearly did it last year, so we’ll see if we can go one step further this year.

     

     

    “I think it’s important to remember Celtic brought us in as development coaches, to try and develop young players and that’s what we’re trying to do. I think everybody knows there are bumps along the road, bringing in younger players and trying to build, selling players and rebuilding again.

     

     

     

    “So, it takes a bit of patience, calmness. Of course we all want to do well in Europe, and we never did that his season. It wasn’t what was expected. But we’ve got to continue to work hard. The target’s the league and the treble, score more goals, play better football. We’re in the spotlight, if we don’t produce that then people will put us under pressure. But that’s part and parcel of being Celtic manager and coach. We deal with it. We don’t like people not saying nice things, but we’ve got to deal with it.”

     

     

    Rangers’ demise in 2012 and their need to reform in the fourth tier has upset the eco-balance of the Scottish game. That has placed Deila and his management team in a hellishly awkward situation. Anything less than the Champions League group stages or the domestic clean sweeps condemns them to being adjudged wholly deficient because their financial infrastructure dwarfs all others in the top flight.

     

     

    Yet, Collins was a Celtic player in the early 1990s when the club came within a whisker of going into administration because they were ordered to pay £100,000 more for Lee Martin than they had budgeted only for a matter of months before Rangers recruited Brian Laudrup for £2.3 million.

     

     

    That 1993-94 title in the Ibrox club’s nine-in-a-row run is not considered devalued even when they patently had no comparably resourced challenger. Celtic were in the top flight, but might as well have been second tier – as Rangers are now – for all the impact they made on the title race. It might not please members of the Celtic supporting flat earth society who pretend everything is so much better without an Ibrox side in the top tier, but Collins looks forward to being in the same set-up as a Rangers Football Club.

     

     

    The need to exist on a host of soft loans suggest the Govan team are unlikely to provide any immediate competition for Celtic – who could see their earning boosted by around £10m with games against Rangers, according to chief executive Peter Lawwell – but their mere presence will change the dynamics for the better, according to the Celtic assistant.

     

     

     

    “Of course we will, 100 per cent,” Collins said when asked if his team would be given more credit for winning the Premiership with an Ibrox team in it. “Rangers have been our biggest rivals for a hundred years, so it would change everything if Rangers are back in the league. Everyone’s happy when we’re above Rangers, and in the same set-up. Celtic supporters are happy when it’s like that, that’s the reality

     

     

    “I think Rangers in the league brings more spice, more interest, of course it does. Anybody who says otherwise, I don’t think is in the real world. “This is the second season [I’ve been at Celtic with no Rangers in the same league] so you’re kind of getting used to it now. If and when they do get back then it’s a totally different ball game; every week’s exciting, we’re looking for each other’s results, everyone’s talking about both of us, everyone’s full of energy when Rangers are in the league and you guys are all excited. The fans love Old Firm games, winning Old Firm games.”

     

     

    Leigh Griffiths, meanwhile, loves every game. The striker has been the one shining success of the Deila-Collins era. With 47 goals in 58 starts and 26 substitute appearances he stands on the threshold of breaking the 50-goal mark in fewer minutes on the pitch than Henrik Larsson, John Hartson, Charlie Nicholas, Gary Hooper or Scott McDonald. His journey from far-from-favoured performer of the Celtic coaching team to predatory prince delights Collins – a man Griffiths said he set out to covert from doubter status

     

     

    “It needs him to come with us and near enough from day one he’s said I’ll prove you wrong and I’ll prove myself right,” Collins recalled. “That’s a dream scenario for us. A little angry player not happy at being out of the string XI but doing the right thing with his anger. Getting on the training pitch, in the gym and doing his work. He’s a great example for every player.

     

     

     

    “Anyone who has been watching Leigh will have seen he’s got terrific movement, he scores goals and I think his workrate is second to none. He’s got better in the air as he’s been working on that aspect. He’s not the biggest so if you’re playing against centre halves and you can head the ball, you can run in behind them, you can take it in front on them or knock it to the side and then put it in the bottom corner, or dribble past them then it’s all there. He’s added different things to his game rather than just someone who shoots from 20 yards. That’s very pleasing.

     

     

    “He’s got a rapport with the fans and they are giving him energy. There’s nothing better if you’re a striker than if the fans love you. His link-up play has improved too and again we’ve been working on that with a load of exercises in tight situations. Leigh has applied himself superbly over the past 12 months and always gives 10 out of 10 on the training pitch. And now he’s reaping the rewards.

     

     

    “It’s goalscorers the fans fall in love with, the ones that burst the back of the net. They are the hardest ones to find but we’ve got one in Leigh. He can score with his right foot, left foot and headers, outside the box and in. He can run in behind centre halves, one-on-one with the goalkeepers, pop it to the side, take a touch and hit – that’s what makes him hard to mark and play against. But he’s great to play with if you’re a winger, midfielder or a number 10 as he makes great runs. And defensively, too, he’s our first defender. He’s the first one to start the pressing game off, sprinting towards the full-back or centre half. He’s given us a lot.

     

     

    “When he walks on the pitch there’s only one thing he wants to do. He wants fed to score goals. If he gets one he doesn’t switch off thinking he’s done his job. He wants more. In the last minute and there’s a penalty he’ll be fighting somebody for the ball. He’s got an appetite for scoring goals. Are you born with that? Some people are born with that feeling where you just love scoring goals. He’s the same in training. The centre halves don’t get a minute’s peace.”

     

     

    Griffiths’ form is what may give Deila and Collins some respite.

     

     

     

     

    Read more: http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/competitions/scottish-cup/celtic-hope-leigh-griffiths-stays-hot-in-hunt-for-treble-1-3996211#ixzz3wpKHrM6Z

     

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  13. Off oot.

     

     

    Come on the Celts today.

     

     

    Leigh Geeeeee to make the difference.

     

     

    **********************************************************************

     

    A state of war exists between the Religious Order of the Jesuits – the Society of Jesus, to give the Order its official name. That war signals the most lethal change to take place with the ranks of the professional Roman clergy over the last thousand years.

     

     

    Because leaders in the war were the Superiors of the Order, it was a simple matter to place men of like mind in charge of the organs of power and authority and communication throughout the organization.

     

     

    The Society of Jesus was established by the papacy in 1540 as a very special “fighting unit” at the total and exclusive disposal of the Roman Pope — whoever he might be. From their beginnings, the Jesuits were conceived in a military mode. Soldiers of Christ, they were given only two purposes: to propagate the religious doctrine and the moral law of the Roman Catholic Church as proposed and taught by the Roman Pope, and to defend the rights and prerogatives of that same Roman Pope. Purely spiritual and supernatural purposes. And specifically Roman Catholic. Surprisingly enough, given this mandate of the Society, papal strategy itself has become the wedge of separation between Jesuits and papacy — indeed, the very arena where the lethal battle between the two is being fought.

     

     

    Still, it was Paul VI who, very late in the day of his papacy, realized that the original dual purpose of the Society of Jesus had been changed. Under his pontificate, an extensive critical dossier about the Society was compiled. It is enough for the moment to say of that dossier that its contents were damning. It was a portrait, in effect, of a Jesuit Order that, like a weathervane atop a roof, had been turned by a different wind. For Jesuits, the papacy no longer held primacy of position. The corporate aim of the Society was now to place itself and the Church at the disposal of a radical and purely sociopolitical change in the world, without reference to — indeed, in defiance of — papal strategy, policies, and aims.

     

     

    In 1973, Paul VI, alarmed more than ever by the way the Society’s members were behaving, tried to stop the onrush of events. He met with the head of the Order, Jesuit Father General Pedro Arrupe, several times. More than a few of those interviews between the two men were stormy. More than once, Paul wanted Arrupe to resign. One way or the other, Arrupe survived all papal attacks. Paul VI did insist that Arrupe convey to his Jesuits “Our demand that the Jesuits remain loyal to the Pope.”

     

     

    And apparently the Society had already made up its mind about Pope John Paul I. No sooner had he been elected than the Jesuits asserted themselves. Father Vincent O’Keefe, the most prominent of the four General Assistants to Arrupe, and the one being groomed to succeed Arrupe one day as Father General of the Order, told a Dutch newspaper in an interview that the new Pope should reconsider the Church’s ban on abortion, homosexuality, and priesthood for women. The interview was published.

     

     

    Pope John Paul I was incensed. This was more than contempt. It was an assertion that the Society of Jesus knew better than the Pope what morals Catholics should practice. And it was an assertion that the Society had the authority to speak out; that is, it was a direct appropriation of the authority that belonged exclusively to the papacy.

     

     

    John Paul I summoned Arrupe and demanded an explanation. Arrupe humbly promised to look into the whole matter. But John Paul could read the handwriting on the wall as clearly as any Pope. On the basis of Paul VI’s critical dossier, and with the help of a very experienced old Jesuit, Father Paolo Dezza, who had been Confessor to Pope Paul VI and now was John Paul I’s confessor, the Pope composed a hard-hitting speech of warning. He planned to deliver it to the international assembly of Jesuit leaders and Father General Arrupe at another of their General Congregations to be held in Rome on September 30, 1978.

     

     

    One of the striking features of his speech was John Paul I’s repeated reference to doctrinal deviations on the part of Jesuits. “Let it not happen that the teachings and publications of Jesuits contain anything to cause confusion among the faithful.” Doctrinal deviation was for him the most ominous symptom of Jesuit failure.

     

     

    Veiled beneath the polished veneer of its graceful romanita;, that speech contained a clear threat: the Society would return to its proper and assigned role, or the Pope would be forced to take action.

     

     

    What action? From John Paul’s memoranda and notes, it is clear that, unless a speedy reform of the Order proved feasible, he had in mind the effective liquidation of the Society of Jesus as it is today — perhaps to be reconstituted later in a more manageable form. John Paul I had received the petitions of many Jesuits, pleading with him to do just that.

     

     

    The Pope never delivered that speech of warning. On the morning of September 29, after thirty-three days on the Throne of Peter, and one day before he was to address the Society’s General Congregation, John Paul I was found dead in bed.

     

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    God Bless JFK and AL.

  14. Delaneys Dunky on

    Good morning from a dry at last Stranraer. The deluge of rain last night and overnight has stopped thankfully. Think the pitch will be heavy today.

     

    COYBIG

  15. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Petec,

     

    why would you want to highlight old divisions in the one true apostolic church of the Christ ?

     

    The only church founded by the Christ ?

  16. BIG-CUP-WINNERS on

    Heavy pitch mate…….if I was the Stranraer manager, I’d have been up all night watering it :-)

  17. Good to see John Collins (if it is his words)

     

    misses seveco and we as fans look forward to O- – F— matches. The management team are now not only not good enough but don’t even get Celtic.

     

    Howmuchdowetake cfc

  18. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Morning Bhoys. Just read what John Collins said about the Rangers I have no problem with what he said surely like the rest of us he has a right to his opinion. I am looking forward to todays game I think it will be a stiff test for us but we will win narrowly and march on. H.H.

  19. Cosy Corner Bhoy on

    Re John Collins’ remarks ,the only one of any significance is ‘Celtic would get more credit for winning the league if &&&&&&& were in it’. The rest is mince.good day out for all at Stranraer today esp DD,Amore and co. COYBIG.

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