Whitewashing in the age of Judicial Reviews, fans united, we’re gonna do it anyway

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Mike Ashley’s petition for a Judicial Review of the processes the SFA followed when finding Dave King fit and proper to run a football club is a lightbulb moment. The decision, taken by the SFA board, was not unanimous. I am sure some pointed to King’s enormously controversial past and alerted supportive voices of the potential for trouble ahead.

The dissenting voices were voted down, but just like Heidi Poon, their unwelcome guidance will ultimately be found to be assured.

What Ashley has demonstrated is that anyone can ask for a Judicial Review. CQN’ers could ask for one into the scope, probity and remit of the Lord Nimmo Smith Commission, for example. I discussed this some time back with an advocate who suggested we hold tight.

The SFA and SPFL must tread carefully, they are no longer in control of events. It would be wise for them to wait until the Supreme Court appeal notification deadline passes before choosing any path.

In the meantime, whoever decided to fan the flames by launching the “no appetite” blocking strategy should calm the waters. There is enormous appetite to look into what many within and outside of Scotland are calling the biggest cheating scam in British sport.

People are angry right now, not at the cheating they have suspected for years, but at the authorities attempt at whitewashing.

There are demonstrations and boycotts being discussed. Millions of words have been written.

Groups of Celtic and Hearts fans are becoming unnervingly cooperative, good grief! See what you’ve done, Mr “No Appetite” man? Supportive understanding is NOT how I usually relate to Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen, United or Dundee fans. Even Motherwell fans!

Before we get Labi Siffre records back in the charts…

Before the PPI industry start sending “Is there a Judicial Review you’d like to instruct” recorded messages to our phones….

A calming word from the SPFL, in the first instance, should be issued. All it needs to do is acknowledge the Court of Session verdict, and that the notification deadline for a subsequent appeal has not passed. This would commit to nothing, but it would also supersede the earlier attempt to whitewash, and perhaps allow some to get back to doing their day jobs.

For the record, a whitewash will simply not be possible. The fan-mechanisms, honed in 2012, are fired-up. We’re gonna do it anyway.

On Ashley, I’ve said this before about him, our enemy’s enemy is not our friend. Ashley has good reason to raise legal actions against those who subverted his interests at Newco, but he is not someone you or I would want associated with our football club. Those who campaign to remove his influence from their clubs (including Newcastle) do so with sound reason. Even if their tactics harm their club far more than Ashley.

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  1. NA2

     

    Ok, to take your view, so the suits are shafting us.

     

    What do we do ?

     

    Walk away, that would be counter productive me thinks.

     

    The real enemy like I said to you yesterday are the sfa, sort them first, then direct your ire against our suits, but trust me on this, the sfa are delighted there are fans liek you out there, you are doing there job for them, they would see us gone, as we would be if the tables had been reversed.

     

    I have not much time for our suits as I have said manys a time, but as others have said, there is a time and a place, and this is not it, if they don’t act if there is no appeal, by all means go for it, I will join you with the pitchfork.

     

    HH

  2. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    THE EXILED TIM. I understand your caution but things have changed 1) HMRC are sitting on the side waiting 2) Michael Ashley has started to move against them 3) cracks are beginning to show and information is coming out slowly. I think it may take a while to sort it out maybe even years but they are in bother and they know it. H.H.

  3. One last thought before I retire tonight….

     

     

    I think the BIGGEST thing is the potential (shall we say) repercussions against anyone that speaks out.

     

     

    In my opinion if that wasnt there then they would be in trouble.

     

     

    Thats the biggest fear out of ALL reporting outlets

     

     

    Which is worrying…..

     

     

    Anyway def Night night & HH

  4. BIG-CUP-WINNERS on

    Look we are goosed in this.

     

     

    No matter what happens we won’t change them, they are beyond redemption: cheating, connivance, rule-breaking manipulation, tax evasion, viloence, bigotry all and more have been evidenced. Then there’s the media and supposed governing bodies.

     

     

    Scotland the place is rotten to the core. That club is a mirror of many facets of the country.

     

     

    “part of the fabric of the Scottish nation”………Salmond was 100% bang on with that observation. Corrupt, shameful, unjust and brazen.

     

     

    Possibly the saddest thing is the amount of Tims taking part in the farce, by listening, reading their lies and distortion. Don’t you think it’s quite perverse relaying on CQN what is being spewed out on the airwaves.

     

     

    We really should win the war by moving the club.

     

     

    I’d be happy if Celtic started in the lowest tier of the English pyramid system.

     

     

    Why expend energy forcing a sport to be just that, a sport. You know, as do I even if we somehow overcome the machinations we are seeing we will still be here participating in a competition that is so messed up, we shouldnt want to be in it.

  5. Margaret McGill on

    An Away Bhoycott is the only solution.

     

     

    An away Bhoycott will make the SFA pay attention, the huns pay attention, the other clubs pay attention, the other fans pay attention as they will be losing their main source of annual income. The Celtic board will be a bit dismayed at this (Long Term OF worries) but will say nothing anyway (Short term cash still incoming). Once the away bhoycott has set up the parameters for discussion then the other non hun Scottish football fans will start to participate in SFA dismantling. Dont expect anything from the

     

    SFA

     

    SPL

     

    SPLF

     

    Sevco

     

    huns

     

    celtic board

     

     

    They are all depending on your bigot pound on divide and conquer

     

    us and them

     

    catholics and protestants

     

    huns and tims

     

    and morondom ad infinitum that 55% of you participate in so gleefully….

     

    probably the main reason an away bhoycott wont work and we are left in a world of Donny Toadily’s and GIRFUY’s to be milked to death….. ha ha ha!

     

     

    To me personally its win win!

     

    canny wait!

  6. Lennon with respect it shouldn’t be just down to the fee paying public. Because if it is we are fixing nothing. Learning nothing. That we have to force the hands of the people who are supposed to represent is says we are failing. They are our reps. Not the other way round. They are our servants. Not the other way round.

     

     

    Stop tugging your forelock.

     

     

    All Celtic need to do is act. The house of cards will fall.

     

     

    But they won’t. They are complicit in this so they can’t.

     

     

    TET the first thing to do is stop making excuses fo Celtic. Just stop it. Celtic need to feel nothing but pressure to act. You and your ilk ar allowing them off the hook.

     

     

    They need to know that if they fail to act Celtic are dead. They need a choice between the old firm and existence. It needs to be black and white.

     

     

    The stupidity of your apologistic approach is that you are allowing not just Celtic but the Huns and racist Scotland an excuse.

     

     

    No excuses. No bullshit.

     

     

    Just truth. And just consequence.

  7. BCW continuing this farce of moving the club is just playing to the gallery. We stay. We fight. And either we die or we are together. It has to be black and white. No greys.

     

     

    We need to stop dancing around and give our board the ultimate ultimatum.

     

     

    Change or die.

  8. Margaret McGill on

    There are no more Turnbull Hutton’s in Scottish football..that man was the last of honorable dead!

  9. Lennon n Mc....Mjallby on

    Neganon

     

     

    Celtic are not our reps.

     

     

    WE are our own reps.

     

     

    Every football fan that pays into the game.

     

     

    It’s not about Celtic.

     

     

    It’s about the guy that scrimps n scrapes to go n watch a game of football.

     

     

    That’s who needs to be standing up n being counted.

     

     

     

    Hail Hail

  10. Margaret McGill. Wrong. All you will do is piss off potential allies.

     

     

    Boycott Celtic. That will get a far better and more instantaneous reaction.

  11. Naw Lennon and this is your fatal mistake.

     

     

    Those who run Celtic should view themselves as servants of the support. But hose who run Celtic think their reason for existence is to screw the support.

     

     

    This issue is at the heart, the very heart, of our malaise.

     

     

    You say it’s not about Celtic. Bullshit. It’s ALL about Celtic and it’s all about the values we have lauded.

     

     

    We are now lying to ourselves.

     

     

    Face it.

     

     

    Breathe the free air and face it.

     

     

    Perhaps Celtic should die if you and your ilk continue to betray our values.

  12. Margaret McGill on

    Neganon2

     

    yes. I agree with you. However, a Home bhoycott will never happen. Never. Never.

     

    I’m compromising on the practicalities of Scottish hunnery. One more thing…they are not celtic supporters allies…they hate Celtic as much as the huns, however, financial realities transcend Scottish cultural legacy any day. Ask the Old Firm.

  13. Margaret McGill on

    It is obvious that us mere mortal Celtic supporters are not our own representatives since it has hitherto been shown that MON WGS and Lenny all left because of interference.

     

    All 3 were superlative servants to Celtic football club and Celtic supporters. Lenny even risked his life.

  14. Surely if you can go to games and choose not to then you are already boycotting / bhoycotting.

     

     

    HH.

  15. Yes they do Margaret. You are correct. But they also now recognise that they games a bogey. When the Aberdeen fans questioned Celtics silence man where they right.

     

     

    I’m not asking for a home boycott cos it won’t work but I am asking Celtic fans to start to rebel. To force Celtic to change or die. Celtic, or those imposters pretending to run Celtic, will on.y change with that ultimatum.

     

     

    We will never get 100 percent but we don’t need it. We only need a few thousand and their bottle will crash.

     

     

    We are strong but stop making excuses for them.

     

     

    They are corrupt but weak.

  16. No boycotts of any league games.These are important to Celtic,and the fans.A total boycott of Hampden,in January,with the cameras there,denying money to the SPFL,and making headlines.The cup means nothing,league points do.

  17. JFH

     

    I said earlier that I can’t see anything that gives me any hope, not in my lifetime anyways.

     

    HH

     

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    NA2

     

    Many years ago I was mocked on here for saying that the cabal were controlling everything that was going down, I said it would involve court cases, again I was ridiculed for saying this, I said that it would get political, the mocking directed at me reached new heights, I have been proved correct, not that I am looking for any kudos, but I was right all along, and I believe I am right on this occasion as well.

     

    Now you can mock me for my beliefs all you wish, I have had better people than you mock and ridicule me, it’s water off my back mi amigo, but don’t for one second take me for a fool, cos a fool, I am not, far from it.

     

    My stupidity, oh dear, you have not a clue what you are talking about, I have had bigger bigots for breakfast that you can dream about, I was employed in the greater Glasgow area many years ago to help eradicate bigotry in the work place, it worked for a few years till they sussed I was a Tim, it’s really not easy working undercover, trust me on that, now don’t ever call me stupid again.

     

    You are directing your anger at the wrong people, if the sfa were running the game for the good of all the clubs, do you honestly believe we would be in this position, stupid question, you obviously do.

     

    HH

  18. Another thing.Does any fan really enjoy going to that dump.Would it be a big sacrifice to give it a miss for the day.Watch it in the pub with your mates.

  19. I don’t normally get involved in the discussions on this sacred blog , but have been reading everyone’s posts for the last few days , there have been a lot of greet comments none more so than BCWs at 9.39 I say f… the lot of them in this God forsaken bigoted little country that we live, let’s pack up & go somewhere where everyone is treated as equals , let’s face it even if we do force change at the top it will only be more Huns put in charge

  20. Lennon n Mc....Mjallby on

    Neganon

     

     

    If that’s how you feel fair enough but I’m inclined to join every other fan of Scottish football with integrity and call this as and play this as that’s who’s been cheated most because it’s the fundamental truth.

     

     

    HH

  21. EBTs are okay if you play fitba and its on a field says a host of would be fitba players turned lawyers

     

     

    Meanwhile in a bunker in Edinburgh

     

     

    Sir David Murray is counting down the days when everyone who earned an honest fiver to one of his borrowed and unpaid tenners can officially call him a tax cheat

     

     

    Strange days indeed

  22. TET,

     

    don’t know why you even bother getting involved with him,

     

    he is right and we are all just wrong and stupid

  23. HH

     

     

    When the time elapses for the appeal and Celtic plc do nowt then we as supporters should vent our anger at both the club and the SFA.

     

    If not i will not be renewing 4 x SB.( AND WILL LET THE CLUB KNOW WHY)

     

    Cant and wont be part of anymore corruption and cheating to suit the Huns.

     

     

    HH

  24. SFTB I’m pretty sure that some on cqn will come up with another pathetic excuse for doing nothing in December. All this crap about allowing your enemy to make mistakes. It’s all been used to betray you.

     

     

    TET I guess as ever I let my anger get in the way, in no way do I think you or anyone else on cqn is stupid (Tony d apart) but we need to be far clearer and clever in our strategy. Sad to say but Paul doesn’t want that. He loves and represents the board.

     

     

    But inadvertently you are making excuses. Stop it.

     

     

    It has to be black and white.

     

     

    Survival or subjugation.

     

     

    Cos that will lead to the right outcome.

  25. Neg Anon

     

     

    “SFTB I’m pretty sure that some on cqn will come up with another pathetic excuse for doing nothing in December.”

     

     

    I asked what you think it could possibly be? You state you are pretty sure there will be one and also that it would be pathetic, though I think you originally stated it would come from Celtic and not CQN.

     

     

    Now why would a pathetic excuse convince us unless we were styoopit?

  26. One of the strange wee quirks of football

     

    When Sweden play Denmark next week , the scoreboard will say Swe-Den and the remaining letters will read .. den-mark.

  27. Another “off the radar” from the Daily Record Keith Jackson is not alone, conspiracy you bet.

     

     

    “Where Rangers were once victims of what the Daily Record newspaper recently called a “phantom” £80m tax bill, they were now guilty of improper payments to players over a 12-year period. The award-winning “Rangers Tax Case” (RTC) blogger, who exposed details of the Rangers’ scheme from March 2011, simply tweeted “Vindication.”

     

     

    http://twohundredpercent.net/?p=28380

  28. SFTB it’s called history and it’s called learning from you mistakes.

     

     

    History has invented phrases like ” a leapord doesn’t change its spots” for a reason.

     

     

    Those who breathe the free air can see and sometimes teach.

     

     

    Those who run Celtic and cqn do not seek to teach but to (mis)lead.

     

     

    Learn or die.

  29. Ashleys latest move on the SFA and Kings fit and proper status is perfect timing but I suspect it hinged on the tax verdict

     

     

    It is perfect ammunition to send King packing and once King is gone Ashley will be needed more than he ever was before

     

     

    Watch the Ashley appreciation society suddenly emerge in the msm