Whitewashing in the age of Judicial Reviews, fans united, we’re gonna do it anyway

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Mike Ashley’s petition for a Judicial Review of the processes the SFA followed when finding Dave King fit and proper to run a football club is a lightbulb moment. The decision, taken by the SFA board, was not unanimous. I am sure some pointed to King’s enormously controversial past and alerted supportive voices of the potential for trouble ahead.

The dissenting voices were voted down, but just like Heidi Poon, their unwelcome guidance will ultimately be found to be assured.

What Ashley has demonstrated is that anyone can ask for a Judicial Review. CQN’ers could ask for one into the scope, probity and remit of the Lord Nimmo Smith Commission, for example. I discussed this some time back with an advocate who suggested we hold tight.

The SFA and SPFL must tread carefully, they are no longer in control of events. It would be wise for them to wait until the Supreme Court appeal notification deadline passes before choosing any path.

In the meantime, whoever decided to fan the flames by launching the “no appetite” blocking strategy should calm the waters. There is enormous appetite to look into what many within and outside of Scotland are calling the biggest cheating scam in British sport.

People are angry right now, not at the cheating they have suspected for years, but at the authorities attempt at whitewashing.

There are demonstrations and boycotts being discussed. Millions of words have been written.

Groups of Celtic and Hearts fans are becoming unnervingly cooperative, good grief! See what you’ve done, Mr “No Appetite” man? Supportive understanding is NOT how I usually relate to Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen, United or Dundee fans. Even Motherwell fans!

Before we get Labi Siffre records back in the charts…

Before the PPI industry start sending “Is there a Judicial Review you’d like to instruct” recorded messages to our phones….

A calming word from the SPFL, in the first instance, should be issued. All it needs to do is acknowledge the Court of Session verdict, and that the notification deadline for a subsequent appeal has not passed. This would commit to nothing, but it would also supersede the earlier attempt to whitewash, and perhaps allow some to get back to doing their day jobs.

For the record, a whitewash will simply not be possible. The fan-mechanisms, honed in 2012, are fired-up. We’re gonna do it anyway.

On Ashley, I’ve said this before about him, our enemy’s enemy is not our friend. Ashley has good reason to raise legal actions against those who subverted his interests at Newco, but he is not someone you or I would want associated with our football club. Those who campaign to remove his influence from their clubs (including Newcastle) do so with sound reason. Even if their tactics harm their club far more than Ashley.

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  1. Dixie,

     

     

    yep, but he gave his 5 mill for a reason… why is he in the game. I don’t think gettin his 5 mill back is what he’s about, according to Phil

  2. JimmyQuinnsBits,

     

     

    Perhaps one of the reasons is Phil has a source right a the top of the Ashley camp providing him with great copy.

     

     

    I agree, don’t see any positive outcomes for Sevco that don’t leave Mike in charge. It seems to be him or bust.

  3. JimmyQuinnsBits on 11th November 2015 11:13 pm

     

     

    The zombies will never back Mike Ashley. The whole thing is a dead end.

  4. TheTim Reaper

     

     

    Thanks for that. Hopefully everyone will have a wee read at that. When you look at all the issues – including Ashley’s with King, you can see why a Judicial Review would be so effective. No wonder his lawyers advised on this route.

     

     

    I had a conversation with Paul about this in early February so he is well aware of it as an option.

     

     

    Incidentally the same lawyer (who I have every reason to trust) told me recently that in the case where assets had been acquired fraudulently, their is a procedure in the PUBLIC SECTOR to allow the transaction to stand. For instance if a hospital had been built on land acquired for this purpose but their was a fraud involved at the seller’s end before the sale to the Public Body, then the deal would be allowed to stand i.e. the hospital would remain in place.

     

     

    There is no such exception for the PRIVATE sector and this lawyer is regarded as leader in the area of Scots Law.

  5. 67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar...... Ipox belongs to the creditors on

    Winning Captains

     

     

    Count me in also ……

  6. What is the Stars on

    Exiled

     

    Boudry, last race Taunton tomorrow, supposed to be a good thing. About 3/1 at the moment. ..

     

    Nazis/ huns. .no comparison. ..you know that.

     

    No grass shall grow where my horse has passed.

     

    Who said that? ??

  7. As for any further newco investment

     

     

    Who would put another thin dime into that mess except Ashley

     

     

    With more of his life support they would tick over in the high dependency unit until all the heat had died down (years from now/who owns what) and then when they are back making money put them up for sale

  8. Scullybhoy re Mitchell

     

    By no manner of means is he a Tim. Not good looking enough. Someone on earlier referred to the fact that he went to a kafflick school in Paisley but just because you go to a Zoo doesn’t make you a penguin.

     

    Winning Capt

     

    Count me in

     

    HH

  9. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    BBC 4 is showing the Lance Armstrong story the now.

     

     

    Quite amusing considering all that’s going on with what was the biggest Scottish institution after the Church of Scotland (copyright D Murray)

  10. Stars

     

    Thanks for the cuddy.

     

    We will have to agree to disagree on the huns/nazi comparison, it’s as plain as the nose on yer face they are one and the same imo.

     

    HH

     

    No idea

  11. Cathedral View, Agree

     

     

    TheTimReaper, also agree… but Ashley doesn’t seem to care whether they back him

     

     

    I don’t get it. I think Phil wants the same as us, Ibrox as a Tesco superstore and they’ve finally gone. So I don’t understand why he’s enjoying Ashley’s antics so much.

     

     

    I don’t see how that happens with Ashley – he invested for a reason, and it’s not just about him getting his 5 mill back. As far as I can see it, he wants control and he wants them to survive – as a cash cow, yes, but survive nonetheless. And those mugs can be turned around, as we’ve seen.

  12. What is the Stars on

    Exiled

     

     

    Attilla The Hun, one right evil bar steward said that, allegedly

     

    Not to be confused with the rangers supporter who worked behind the bar in a celtic pub. His name was Ahunna De Till

  13. I see some vile Hun has desecrated a page on Wikipedia with regard William Angus (VC) the ex Celtic player. Referring to Celtic with their usual vileness. Anyone know how to report this or indeed how to remove. Big of a luddite with social media.

  14. stebhoy on 11th November 2015 10:46 pm

     

    Think the Appeal deadline is 2nd December.. But remember, its only an application to appeal. The case is reviewed for possible miscarriages and inconclusive finding.. is not automatic. If the appeals process is satisfied the Court of Session Judges made their decision in clear and witout reasonable doubt (which they most certainly id),thenan appeal wod e dene.

     

     

    K T F Bhoys.. If WE are united, then others will follow.. C’mon, this is our moment for fair play and justice, we have waited long enough, and suffered greatly.

     

    Hail Hail.

  15. jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on

    Saw a picture of that heed yin at Sons of Struth Graham sumdae?? Geez that hun is one ugly hun!!!!

  16. Thindimebhoy on 11th November 2015 11:01 pm

     

     

     

    SFA in the dock who would have thought it bar Fergus Mc Cann and now Mike Ashley

     

     

    Regans “social unrest” comment

     

     

    Why did Regan say that was there political pressure….?

     

     

    I mean Scotland is not Northern Ireland..is it ?

     

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    Thindime………….. any links to the political pressure story ?

     

     

    can remember the social unrest bit but no the political pressure stuff………thanks in advance,

  17. ok, am off to bed, I obviously am missing something

     

     

    I’m guessing he’s part of the hidden offshore consortium with Charlie, who hold the deeds to Ibrox etc., and was in from early on.

     

     

    Options:

     

    1) he could have called the chips in by now and forced the issue. He, and his buddies, could be calling in the assets now and selling them off – he hasn’t and gives no sign of doing so

     

    2) He wants them limping along for years – slim margins, probably decreasing as trophies aren’t won. There’s no money in that.

     

    3) He wants them to survive, switch on the Stockholm syndrome, and start to make some serious money.

     

     

    I don’t see his plan gelling with our desires.

     

     

    Night all

  18. SID on 11TH NOVEMBER 2015 8:24 PM

     

    Does anyone else get that nagging feeling we need to reach out to a larger audience. Despite fall in MSM the average punter by and large will be swallowing the pleas to move on. Would a fund for printed leaflets, save our game, with all bullet point details and links to SFM, be a worthwhile exercise and handed out at all grounds across the country. This is a battle we can’t afford to lose.

     

     

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    Thought that myself . Every supporter of every club , who are angered by the blatant cheating . And the operation to cover it up by the media , should be combining to get the truth out there , and bypass the media and supporters of wrong doing in this country . We all have the advantage of social media . We all have friends , relations , business associates out with this country , we all know what has been going on . It’s time we took this fight out of this country . All that has gone on has been well explained on these websites , the result , and reasons for hmrc,s victory are well documented . Same with the sham that was the tribunal of LNS , it’s all documented . Get it copied and pasted and send it throughout the world . Every other sport where cheating has been found to have taken place , has been acted on and severe punishment handed out . Everywhere except here . I have emailed details of what’s been going on to friends out with the U.K. I also think the celtic SA ,the AICSC , the celtic trust should be active and in dialogue with there counterparts of other clubs supporters groups . After all they were cheated too . We can’t rely on the facts being reported honestly in this country .

  19. Surely one of you guys can edit the wikipedia page William Angus (VC)? At least have a look at it! Some vile Hun at it.

  20. the glorious balance sheet on

    Winning Captains

     

     

    That crowd funding idea sounds like a goer to me. I would be very happy to contribute to a fund to meet the legal fees involved in going for a judicial review.

     

     

    I suspect that so many football fans – not just Celtic – would be willing to contribute that you would end up raising much more than is needed to cover the costs so any surplus could go to charity.

     

     

    This could be a win-win, getting justice and supporting charity at the same time.

     

     

    Hail hail.

  21. Jimtim

     

     

    ;)

     

     

    Doesn’t feel like it, but I’m getting used to this state of permanent confusion

     

     

    HH

     

     

    Oiche Mhaith

  22. JUDE2005 IS NEIL LENNON \O/ on 11TH NOVEMBER 2015 11:42 PM

     

    Saw a picture of that heed yin at Sons of Struth Graham sumdae?? Geez that hun is one ugly hun!!!!

     

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    I worked beside him a few years ago and to be fair he’s even uglier in real life. He was a despicable Hun of the worst order.

  23. JimmyQuinnsBits on 11th November 2015 11:54 pm

     

     

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    No confusion about it . I have posted the same on here on numerous occasions . Ashley needs them in competition to sell the jerseys . No Sevco no need for the merchandise rights . I have stated often , I wish he was nowhere near them . He could have finished them ages ago , and someone apart from the SPFA are keeping them afloat .