How do you find out that a footballer is betting on the game? They don’t walk into bookies and hand a slip over at the counter, this stuff is all done on smartphones or by telephone.
Betting information is protected by the Data Protection Act, the SFA have no authority to ask and bookmakers have no authority to tell, even if they know a player is breaking SFA rules.
Even if a player sits in the dressing room, and announces that he’s just bet on the match about to take place, and all his team-mates reported him, he would be able to dismiss the charge on the basis that his comments were a joke. No one could prove otherwise.
But, very specific charges are levelled at players.
The betting industry survives on the quality of their information being better than that of their customers. “Are you likely to win at the weekend?”, “Any inside info on who the new manager will be?”, “Who’s struggling to be fit for Saturday (and therefore unlikely to be first scorer)?”
If you are a player, you have the inside line on a market worth hundreds of millions each year. Football has an unhealthy relationship with bookmakers, at some clubs, the betting partner has their own lounge and has full access to the players’ lounge. Many players are big gamblers and some have big incomes. They are both significant clients for bookies and potential sources of inside information. Like many big gamblers, they are offered special odds, not available to the general public.
Let me tell you one way of catching a player who is gambling on football. He is tempted away from his old bookie to one who has become friendly with, possibly after giving his former bookie a bum steer on a striker who was supposed to be injured. The former bookie then ‘discovers’ that the name on one of their accounts doesn’t match the name on the linked bank account, and that this account holder is a footballer.
The bookie is now officially concerned that illegal match fixing is going on. With the possibility of criminality (even if it is without basis), they can alert the authorities. That would teach the player a lesson for leaving, while making money through advantageous odds and feeding bum information back, and destroy whatever competitive advantage the other bookie has.
Does anyone know of any other way a specific charge of gambling on football could be raised?
Maybe the players are all just daft laddies. Maybe the SFA decline to release reports into players gambling because there is nothing to see in them. Maybe you can break the rules on betting but not be punished because it’s a silly rule.
You don’t need to be match fixing to be involved in serious criminality when dealing with a bookmaker. The football watching public need transparency from the SFA on this issue, no matter how much money floods into the game from the gambling industry.
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jfh,
Who else in Scotland can afford £3M to go up against us for the boys signature ?
Dena, is it a black pudding fae Hebcelt?
Well worth waiting on:_)
I’m good and yes, looking forward to the Admin day hootenanny. Still to book my hotel as I wasn’t 100% sure I was going to make it but it’s looking like a definite so I better get my finger out or you will need to get yer butler to sort something oot for me.
Didn’t see you at the game on Wed, could you not get over?
HH Sister
Mullet,
This is Nirs second season.
Also there are dozens of good players throughout Europe for that position for under 3 million. Playing for better teams than dundee utd.
As I said the other day, why the beef with the Israeli league? And the 3 we have signed from there?
No better or worse than any other league we have signed from.
Canamalar
Sevco!
Is Derk still with us. Good grief, I thought we’d farmed him out in the last window.
Still, he was good value for 25 minutes in that first game he played.
jude2005
Life’s not fair is it pal.
Prayer said.
Dena
I promise I initially thought you were saying that Blantyretim had accidentally texted you during the night! Was pmsl and worrying for him at the same time.
‘Broonie can’t pass….’ – that’ll be the same Broonie whose deft first touch in front of his team mate was a perfect piece in a lovely goal the other night?
‘Broonie’s not worth £4m……’ When he’s not on the pitch we lose a degree of effectiveness that would cost +£4m to replace.
Armstrong is fair value at £3m. Same as wee Gauld will show himself to be.
Had lunch with my Dad. Bumped into SOAL on the way back in. I think that both are none the worse for the experience!!!
HH jamesgang
JJHS
Hahaha!
By the way, I’ve sent you an email – if you don’t get it, email me back.
setting free the bears for res. 12 & oscar knox
13:10 on 23 January, 2015
minx1888 @ 06:53
“Good Morning All
Happy birthday to the most kindest genuine mhan in the world !!I know I’m luckier than all of you I get to keep him! ”
Not sure that you should be advertising this.
Hamilton Tim reads these pages :-)
P.S. Happy Birthday HT
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Sftb, I reckon HT pinched Minx’s phone and wrote that post:)
Happy birthday HT. HH
jamesgang
Broons goal in that cup game when we were down to 10 men? Sublime.
Would maybe be better if he had better players alongside him.
LB
archdeaconsbench
Dont know enough about the player to comment on most of your post and havent seen enough to suggest he is one of the best players in Scotland at the minute but the fact he is doing studies for after his playing career is very level headed however my daughters thought were
he mustnt think hes going to make much out of football if he thinks he needs another career path
go figure
young uns eh
I agree with you level headed and I will welcome him if/when he becomes a Celtic player
HH
greensideup-gbwo
13:54 on 23 January, 2015
Would luv Kris to stay..(season by season)…what did his wife say ….!!??
LB
You were as always one million % correct until you said……..
He is doing a degree as well which seems to indicate he is a sensible lad.
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I did sums at uni. But hey you could probably tell that from my opening line!!!!
HH jamesgang
CELTIC WAG Lisa Hague says she loves Glasgow and is keen to stay here for at least another two years despite speculation that her partner Kris Commons may be leaving the team.
Lisa ,who was at the launch of the Scottish Entertainment and Hospitality Awards to help raise funds for the STV Appeal said: “I’m hoping to stay here and I’ve already let families and friends know to give us another couple of years here and we’ll see in a couple of years.
“I feel like I’ve got unfinished business still to do in Glasgow with the Lola Commons charity and stuff we do as a family. It’s also crunch time for my daughter April starting school and it could be long term actually. I do love it up here.”
Lisa who wanted to watch boyband Rewind perform alongside Des Clarke at the bash admitted she was also keen to see what other acts were on offer at the Corinthian bash.
She said: “It’s nice to leave the kids with dad for a bit and get into the glitz and glamour. i’m here to see what’s happening as a bit of a poacher for my own events.”
Lisa admits she has a problem saying no to charity event and has two other project on the go currently.
She said: “I’ve just recently been roped into a zipwire across Celtic park and driving a golf buggy around ad t some point but I need to learn to say no.
“I was asked to think about walking across hot coals for charity but I told myself to put the phone down and walk away from twitter for five minutes. Kris concentrates on the pitch and I run about Glasgow doing things so we make a good team.”
Bankiebhoy I copied and pasted this from the Oll DR! :-)
Think he may be cup tied ….. Thanks Livibhoy and Frannyb67.
Why don’t we get Dundee Utd’s scouting team on board and ditch our existing scouting leader
I’ve got a horrible feeling we are going to sign noone this window. We are more than 3 weeks into it and nothing coming in immediately.
There aint even a lot of rumours flying around about potential signings.
Armstrong is smoke and mirrors for the board and the longer this lasts the better it will suit them.
The board are flying a kite re Armstrong and when they don’t get him for £750K, they will say ah but we tried our hardest.
What will we then call this window?
Suggestions on a postcard.
Further to my earlier post on the hun media response to Celtic’s donation, and in particular this post:
“It all counts i guess but their filthy taig money will need exchanged for good,clean notes”.
Here’s one reply the hun got:
“you are a f*cking idiot”
Although to be fair that post could have been to anyone of the posters from hunmedia.
A Ceiler Gonof Rust
no mid week is a serious no-no
the ferry companies are not playing ball anymore and unless kick off is at 7pm we cant make the ferry home
for the Milan game we are leaving Lurgan 10am and not back until 9am next morning so thats 2 days off for anyone who works so the same would go for any mid-week home game :-((((
its ok for me abut its not viable to run a bus so unfortunately week-end onlt for me except big games when the glory hunters want to attend and make bringing a bus viable (jeezo another rant)
HH
Gary67
13:47 on
23 January, 2015
robert88
Derk was £3.5million Euros so whatever that translates too.
Stupidity on someone’s part
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This is pure poppycock – Derk’s fee was south of 1m Euros and due to his previous injury record, there was to be add ons dependent on games played.
The fee has been kept down because of his non-appearances – and, to be clear, they have not all been due to injury – Celtic knew pretty quickly what the situation was – no huge loss, but of course we get him off the wage bill.
South of Tunis
I have e mailed my family in Gdansk re the movie soundtrack. They will check Gdansk record dealers.
Alfie Noakes
Im not so sure, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derk_Boerrigter. Im not saying this is 100% reliable, but his agent quoted it
gearoid1998
13:50 on 23 January, 2015
Jfh@13.27
Repost from this morning. I was not relating the foundations generosity to my or anyone else’s like or dislike of Fernando.
gearoid1998
11:38 on 23 January, 2015
HH the Celtic foundation.
MND does not take account of the football team that the sufferer supports/plays for so neither should we.
Hopefully the donation will be taken in the spirit it was given.
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Agree in part – but why not just make a donation to MND charity – no need for it to be linked to any footballer at all. No individual with MND is less-deserving, or more deserving than FR, or anyone else, so I don’t really see the need to link the donation to an individual – if you are going to support MND research, then do so.
Of course the possible additional benefit, and perhaps this is in the thinking of the Foundation and the MND charity, is the profile-raising aspect of this – i.e. anything that gets public attention – e.g. a Celtic charity helping a former Rangers player – might help focus attention on the condition, and increase charitable donations to the cause.
HH
BGFC
Doing the Broony when the rangers died
Was worth £4M in my book
a ceiler gonof rust – We should also praise sevco for holding a benefit match for a player who never played for them.
Robert Sarver said the Govan Cowboys are a “storied franchise”, which is American for “you’re not Rangers anymore”. (thumbsup)
gearoid1998 – I hope the Celtic Foundation pay the £10k directly into Fernandos personal/specific charity account.
Breaking news on Sevco’s latest crisis loan:
https://discoveringdifferent.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/and-its-gone.jpg (thumbsup)
glendalystonsils – We get Kevin Bridges, they get Andy Cameron.
seems about right !
There are a lot of Rangers-franchise supporting celebrities, to be fair.
Let’s not forget Atilla, guests on the Jeremy Kyle show, and Megatron. (thumbsup)
Livibhoy@13.57
Some of the biggest lunatics I know have Degrees. Absolutely no guarantee of sanity.
TonydonnellyCSC.
I find it hard to believe that some folk think PL will spend 3 Million Pounds for a Dun/Utd player, regardless of how good folk think he is.
GM-Sorry meant O’Donnell,look at the prices in the Championship and below? DU and others know we have plenty in the bank,and will be looking for top dollar.Parsimony is a major part of the current downsizing.We have the chance now to cut deadwood from the squad,and spend a bit to raise the quality,As RD said last week ,get Scottish players in for a number of reasons.Armstrong,Mackay-Steven,John McGinn are 3 for me,2 going out of contract and a fee for SA.3 good players for around £3 mil total ,on 4 year deals,would help us re-build the team.Look at the money wasted in last 3/4 years,scandalous.I think when we buy closer to home,you know what you are getting.HH
robert88
14:15 on 23 January, 2015
Alfie Noakes
Im not so sure, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derk_Boerrigter. Im not saying this is 100% reliable, but his agent quoted it
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Agent may quote that to manage expectations in future mover – e.g. “… my client, Derk, is a 3.5 million player…”. Easier to get a salary uplift to 50k from 45k, than from 20k sort of thing maybe?
HH
BGFC
Burgas Hoops
14:19 on
23 January, 2015
I find it hard to believe that some folk think PL will spend 3 Million Pounds for a Dun/Utd player, regardless of how good folk think he is.
Even after my above post,i tend to agree……
Big Georges Fan Club – Hail, Hail, Wee Oscar
quite possibly, either way its money wasted.
If he has 18 months left on his contract (I read this but not sure?) – Dundee Utd correct to ask for £3m – this time next year £1m (if he as not signed a new contract)
The length of the contract dictates the price
67 ECW
67heaven, see Paddy Gallagher’s post at 14:05,
Cheers Paddy!
HH
gsu
Anybody please give me Pauls email or admin.
Ticket request
Folks I’m desperately looking for a spare for someone for the semi final against the huns. A while back I said that I’d sort it for him but completely forgot and consequently have knocked back several offers because I said that I wasn’t getting tickets for anyone else.
I’d really appreciate if anyone can help out.
With regards gambling by sportsmen – Pete Rose was the big all time hero of the Cincinnati Reds baseball team. Stadiums, streets, god knows what named after him…but he got caught gambling and now you would think he had never existed – almost eradicated from the reds history.
In contrast, we seem to expect too little of our football players. Loutish, stupid and sometimes even illegal behavior is ignored – or even condoned in some quarters. It’s almost as though we are conditioned to think that their only real crime is getting caught.
Surely behaving like committed athletes and abiding by the laws of their game isn’t asking too much?
!!Bada Bing!!
Michael Duffy from Derry City is more like it. PL will be in his element there offering a set of nets and some new balls in place of hard cash.
In my opinion that is.
Jungle Jim
It might be ole Schrodinger’s cat in the parcel
Just had a letter from my bank offering me a 1.4% AER ISA. Are they taking the proverbial? M&S have a Savers Current Account paying 6% gross 4% net.
Philvis – At last someone else has picked up on the big issue on today’s blog, Not GMS and Armstrong but Bridges V Cameron.
Andy Cameron is on my ‘acceptable huns’ list! His routine at Billy McNeill’s tribute dinner was very well pitched and very funny. I find it hard to dislike him.