At 21-years-old Tom Rogic should be strongly staking his claim for a central midfield berth at Celtic. The fact that he’s not is a disappointment to the player, and apparently the nation of Australia. It’s also a disappointment to you and me. He has the physique and the passing ability but after some tentatively positive performances last season he hasn’t kicked on as hoped.
There could be lots of reasons for this, it’s not necessarily the ‘fault’ of the player, his ability or the club, but football careers wither on the vine when clubs hoard talent. If Tom can get some game-time under his belt at Melbourne Victory, and potentially get to Brazil in the summer, we will have a better indication if he is the real deal.
Someone just text me, “Rangers need to be a long-term sustainable business and that’s the bottom line. The club needs to change”, from that memorable Craig Whyte interview to The Scotsman in 2012. Groundhog Day….
So Fifa presidential candidate, Jerome Champagne, has proposed the introduction of a sin-bin, to be invoked by the referee brandishing an orange card. What’s your view on this, is there a universal association between sin and orange, or is this another subversive plot by Celtic fans? I have my suspicions.
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Monaghan1900
13:05 on 21 January, 2014
Penalise the offending team by 15 or 20 yards
That was actually on the table for dissent as well as the orange card. Not sure if the orange card was specifically for dissent.
Paul67,
I have to admit that I’m disappointed that Rogic has so far not made the mark I thought he was capable of doing at Celtic. He seemed to have the attributes to do well, but for whatever reason it hasnt transpired.
Perhaps this loan spell and a decent stint at the World Cup will give him the platform to do just that, but as other posters have stated, very few loanees come back into a first team slot at Celtic.
However according to the article on BT I posted earlier, Rogic claims he is a better player now than he was 12 months ago, but obviously just not good enough to break through ahead of the current 1st-teamers.
Good Luck to the boy regardless.
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
the English strip has three lions,triggers broom has ten years history,rangers are the same club, celtic are the same club, only one of these statements is true, ask any self respecting hun…..if there is such a thing h h
Doc 12:35 on 21 January, 2014
“An oft repeated lie may become accepted as truth, but it will never be anything other than a lie.”
Aye. I agree with that. And simply sticking to the hard facts avoids wasting any time on the subject.
I don’t get too stressed by the off-the-wall claims over the status of the new club – as it really strays into David Icke territory. Their status is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of public record.
Getting into debates about it is as pointless as arguing over the colour of a pint of Guinness.
Paul 67 –
“What’s your view on this, is there a universal association between sin and orange, or is this another subversive plot by Celtic fans?”
In a padded room right now Chris ‘Trigger’ Graham is writing a blog on this very topic.
“higher a lawyer to ”
They should chip in and send him back to higher education, or more likely foundation level education.
The idiocy level of the Hun never ceases to amaze.
Bmcuwp.
I’m sure you will be able to cope ;)
Rodo should be around too.
BMCUWP
A definite first ever podium.
Wagon fallen off on Sat evening. Well my mate John had won £700 on the Gee-gees so fair enough I’d say.
Jimbo67 supporting Oscar Knox
Sin bins work well in rugby.
What I like about them is the team that gets offended against, gets an advantage – not another team when the offender is suspended a few weeks later.
If anyone in the football world is wondering how Jerome Champagne’s proposal for orange cards will work then they should come to Scotland for some knowledge.
The orange card has been getting used up here for years.
Also, is there a chance that an orange card might be hard to distinguish from a red card by fans sitting at a distance?
Picture the scene, the ref brandishes a card, the crowd think its a stright red and all of a sudden an almighty barney breaks out. The crowd are pelting the ref with flumps and tangy toms, bad language ensues all around, the police wade in with batons and arrest 150 fans and injure many more, while a government official sitting in the stand immediately gets on the blower to the first minister to convene a summit of important people…
then wee jimmy at the back of the stand with his opera glasses shouts down “hang on ladies, it’s only an orange not a red card”. The baying mob then re-take their seats slightly embarrassed about the whole episode
I think the card should be a different colour from orange, maybe black and white checked, or purple and mauve stripes.
It will save a whole lot of trouble in the long run.
Sin – bin or orange?? Bloody hell weve a “club” breaking every rule in the football & tax law book and they come up wae sh*te”????
Just as well, orange cards weren’t around a few years ago in Celtic Deadco matches.
Monaghan1900 13:05 on 21 January, 2014
This is not rocket science. Don’t they know it’s about buying Russian votes?
Glasgow City Council is riddled with people with Irish names, like Gordon Matheson…
TBB.
Wonder how many pro footballers got 5 As?
An orange car you say? Howabout an apple card then?
whats the difference between an apple and an orange?
nae such thing as ………………
you all know the rest
eddie
Dont hold ur breath. Was talked down last night as he has to do for leverage. Straight red in my book.
Tom Rogic, sometimes when you see a new player at celtic. I have said to myself I hope he makes it ,but as the game goes on, I start to have doubts, anyway best of luck in oz,
Monaghan1900
The solution is quite simple. Someone should tell them that we live in a democracy and that these are all publicly elected officials. If they feel so strongly about refusing RC’s a place in office they should vote for a non RC next time. Maybe they could even find a party which expressly denounces Catholicism. The BNP might be a decent starting point for them.
There you go, bears. Instead of “highering” lawyers, get out and vote at the next local election!
Paul,
They don’t do long-term sustainable business – see Walternomics: “The financial bit of Rangers Football Club and common sense don’t often go together.”
The MSM are desparate for a “strong Rangers”. But when was the last time any of the Rangers group of clubs was strong with a sustainable business model? 1978?
THM
Until the last couple of years, football and education were mutually exclusive beyond age 15. Even now, clubs encourage their better kids to go full time from age 16, thus cutting out Highers for most of them.
Kids were (and to a lesser extent still are) asked to sacrifice their education for a shot at becoming a footballer. 95% of those who take the punt at age 16 don’t make it.
Used to be scandalous. It’s now simply a disgrace.
glasstwothirdsfull
13:42 on 21 January, 2014
That’s actually a very good point …….. any success they had, particularly since Fergus arrived, was very tainted, as has been clearly evidenced by ZOMBIEGATE…….better aff deed……leaves the rest of us able to sort out the mess they left….
An Ornage card in Scotland :-( Well one thing is for sure our unbiased refs would have a great time brandishing it at the uppity Tims.
I am certain that to keep its historical context with the blood of our blood (copyright wee fat Alex ‘i want a divorce’ Salmond) and the ‘we are the pepil’ types the SFA will insist that once the Orange card is played the refs will have to shout “Ulster will fight”
The orange card, If introduced, will cause great confusion among those who, like me, are colour-blind!
HH!!
In football as in life -people have a tendancy to overcomplicate things – hence my simple £5 solution to the Celtic striking ‘crisis’…. change the number on Kris Commons back to 9…
the battered bunnet
13:46 on 21 January, 2014
Absolutely spot on….
TBB
It’s for the very reasons that you outline that in all the years where I coached young footballers that I always told them to steer clear of Celtic and what at the time was Rangers.
Don’t get me wrong it was frequently a decision that plucked hard at my conscience but for the benefits of the boys themselves I stuck to what I believed was in their best long term interests.
I’ve mentioned that I coached Dylan McGeouch at primary level. However, at the same time there was a boy the same age who was streets ahead of Dylan in skill, strength, movement, passing, tackling and shooting.
That boy was offered a contract at Rangers, a strange decision given the fondness for Celtic in the entire family.
I spoke to him not long after he’d signed at Rangers and asked him what on earth was he thinking and why hadn’t he spoken to me first (he’d always said that he would). He replied that he thought I’d just tell him to go to Celtic, who were also wanting his signature.
On the contrary I told him, my advice would have been to go to any other club besides us and them.
You may have noticed one attributed that was omitted from the list of talents.
Team work; Dylan was always much more concerned for the team than himself.
I saw that other boy about a year ago. He was standing with a bottle of Buckie and had a huge hatchet scar to his head.
An incredible talent, wasted.
EDDIEINKIRKMICHAEL
Aye,I think yer running interference on me!
Still,worth making the point that the cops can use 60yo technology in court. Always p’d me off,that.
down down..deeper and down..
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Hamilton
Was the boy with the Buckie and hatchet scar waiting on his bus to Ranger’s training?
HAMILTON TIM
IMO,your advice was spot-on. Disgraceful that his club didn’t judge his circumstances,only his talent.
Sadly it is all too prevalent. And it has been so for decades.
If anything,clubs prepare their “cubs” better now in case of not making the cut than they did years back.
But,as a teacher,you will know how difficult it is to persuade kids that,actually,they DON’T know it all.
Ask my Dad….
Cults
No, I think he might manage them :-)
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS ………FC not PLC
14:00 on 21 January, 2014
“When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.”
P67 – “Someone just text me” – should that read someone has just texted you, or are you imploring someone to text you?
So big question – what is the third person present and past tense of the verb “to text”?
I say – he texts and he texted.
TBB @ 1346,
so true.
I remember back in the late 80’s an old mate of mine was at St Mirren and was asked by them to sign professional forms at 17years old.
But they told him he had to choose between his education – he wanted to go to Uni – or football. They said he could not do both.
Stevie, wisely chose his education, as, and Im sure he would not mind me saying, he would have been one of the 95% who didnt make it.
Not seen him for years now – last time we met we were on opposing teams playing Sat amateur! Not quite the SPL eh?
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
PS – I’d say its closer to 99% who dont make it.
PPS – The guy i mention above is/was a hun and introduced me to Super Sally back in 1989 in a pub in Calderwood, EK (my mate was from there, as was Sally – or perhaps given the state of him that night, Swally would be the better sobriquet – if memory serves). I thought back then that he was actually a decent guy, Swally that is. Amazing how time serves to show how wrong you can be about someone eh?
Phyllis Dietrichson
14:04 on 21 January, 2014
P67 – “Someone just text me” – should that read someone has just texted you, or are you imploring someone to text you?
So big question – what is the third person present and past tense of the verb “to text”?
I say – he texts and he texted.
Verb?! John “Bomber” Brown is still stuck on the plural – “textsees” I recall!
HT,
I thought a lot of the kids that didn’t make it with us at least went off to have decent pro careers elsewhere. Is that wrong?
Cheers.
TGSC,
Sailing On….
NATKNOW
Correct. I could have written that myself. Except that I would have had to double my age of awareness!
NATKNOW
Textses,breakfastses. Just two words which p… me off when I hear them.
Especially the latter. It usually means that I’m gonna have to wait a bit for someone to serve me my first of the day!