Banning 128 fans seems impossibly indiscriminate. I don’t know how it was decided but it sounds like “those eight columns and sixteen rows” – painting with a very broad brush. If so, the Club must meet with those in the affected area as soon as possible to allow fans who have had nothing whatsoever to do with vandalism or dangerous behaviour to continue to follow their club. If such a letter arrived on my doorstep, I would want to face the Club urgently. We’ve all been tarred by the pyros, banners and vandalism, but some are paying a higher price.
Unless there is specific evidence against an individual, the default expectation must be that bans will be lifted after interview.
Back in July, after the Club and the Green Brigade met to agree a way forward following some early season Uefa disciplinary problems, we wondered if either could control every last hanger-on hoping to ‘stick it to the man’. Statements in recent days from both organisations show how impossible this has proven to be.
When I wrote my article on Saturday I didn’t expect the condemnation of the previous night’s incidents, from all sections of the support, to be so comprehensive. We’ve seen elsewhere the damage procrastination and deflection can be. There is no need to deflect. We will not blame Chelsea fans. Nor is there need for ‘whataboutery’. Vandalising seats and throwing flares is now endemic in our game but Celtic fans are judged by higher standards. The Celtic support is characterised by by enormous generosity. Still.
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There is a lot of ignorance about the not so highly secretive Green Brigade and their expressed attitude towards cooperation with other Celtic supporter groups and the Board. These two linked articles give some insight into their origins and approach.
Those that already know it all and who do not approve of being educated, should just scroll on by.
Green Brigade Q & A (2006)
Green Brigade Interview (2010)
I like Carmylites but they get stuck in my teeth. It’s a habit I really need to change.
Bournesouprecipe
I am deeply offended by your statement that all casuals are from carntyne. I am from carntyne , born and bred and my son will be growing up in carntyne also. You sir have inflicted a deep wound to my character, a wound which is not easily healed. The only conclusion is for you to stop yer p#sh or yer gettin it.
Regards.
Carmyle’s most famous Legned is retired and living in Cardigan Bay.
Sorry. I should have credited the invaluable Celtic Wiki site with providing links to the above 2 articles on this publicity hungry and secretive organisation.
People from Blantyre are amongst the world’s most ironic.
Albion Rovers v Motherwell…
A couple of days ago I asked someone to explain a reference to the above match. I was informed MW fans had trashed some seats and had flares or smoke bombs. I had obviously missed the reports in the msm.
Yesterday evening I heard HK insist no seats had been damaged at New Douglas Park. This despite his sister paper contradicting his supposed statement of fact.
Anyway last night I decided to ask Police Scotland if they were investigating vandalism at NDP since they had already announced the (proper) investigation of events at Fir Park.
Today I received a reply that the question had been referred to the Lanarkshire Division and a response would be given very soon.
When I get it I’ll let everyone know.
What a difference a year makes.
125————–>>>> 128.
weeminger,
Tried to find a link to this story for quite some time.
That was the only one I could find…no blanket coverage you see.
Every other link directed me to Fir Park on Friday…Hmmmmm
With a biscuit box in one hand
and a Carmalite in the other
hendrix67
………………………And it was shuuuuuuuuttttttttttttttt.
HH
BK
Is Alanis Morisette fae Blantyre?
Canamalar
You called me a bum barer? Please explain, and I hope it is not what I think it means, what a Disscusting thing to say to any person, please do not mention my name in any of your vile posts, I have been called a few names since Saturday, but you crossed the line there, maybe one day our paths will cross and we can discuss it, as most people in here know I drink in the Brazen Head, Sunday is your best day to see me there, just ask anyone in the pub and they will point you in my direction, there will not be a problem, and we will discuss your opinion of me being a BUM BARER, normally as I have said many times peoples opinion of me are of no concern to me, but YOU crossed the line, disagree with ME yes, fill your boots, but naaaaaaa I am my fathers son and he was never nor was his father a BUM BARER.
To save CQN posters time feel free to cut and paste, mix and match from below.
It’s all Peter Lawwell’s fault
It’s all The Green Brigade’s fault
It’s Motherwell’s steward’s fault
It’s the NEDS’ fault
It’s the Police’s fault
It’s the Media’s Fault
It’s the fault of the Masonic New World Order..
DBBIA @ 12 22
“praise the lord for the cricket ”
The cricket has been mighty fine. The hiding on a flat track in Adelaide was a treat.
Bars in Montalbano land making money from Bangladeshis, Pakistanis and Indians watching the cricket on the tele. I was surprised that most seem to prefer England to Australia.. Arsenal / Chelsea and Man U shirts abound.
Some anaemic people aren’t ironic.
Bournesouprecipe
Yer a man amongst gods!
HH
People from Icomb are amongst the most icombic
I think the clubs broad brush approach is correct.
If you didn’t have anything to do with throwing flares or breaking seats there’s nothing to be concerned about and only those who , by admission or proof , were involved should be banned . Innocent until proven or admitted guilty has of course to apply but its right that anyone in the vicinity should be asked about what went on.
They should also be asked , without repercussion ,
1. Did you see anyone near you breaking seats or throwing flares?
2. If so did you report it to a steward?
3. If you did report it then what was done, if anything?
4. If you didn’t report it , why not?
As I’ve said those questions should be asked clearly on the basis that there are no repercussions if they refuse to reply or give the “wrong” answers.
I think that fans have to self police as its better that anything else. I clearly remember in the 70’s the bottle throwing was , at least partly , stopped by fans , and plenty of them , pointing out which maniacs had thrown them.
People from Eyjafjallajökull are amongst the most tectonic.
Ironically,a lot of bhoys posting views that i might not particularly agree with,care more about the damage to our Club’s reputation,than the halfwits who done the damage at Fir Park.
Those responsible will be planning their next mission ,and will still be dining out from Friday’s notoriety.
Simon Cowell to oversee rehearsals for The Celtic Choir-provisionally(sic) named The X GB Factor.
Bsr @ 1241
Take a bow.
Devilisdead from last page. I agree.
Bournesoup…..
When did Walter Smith move to Wales?
Sof Tunis- I don’t have SS2 so I’ve been following it on the VG Cricinfo website.
Mitchell Johnston is enjoying a heart-warming sporting redemption; and he’s wearing a proper quick bowler ‘tache.
Seems Alanis must have moved away from Blantyre before she was fully schooled on the true meaning of ironic.
Not too ironic
A cracker from Etims diary…….
With the match fixing scandal going on in England, Second Rangers midfielder Ian Black has moved swiftly to deny he has any involvement. Black was caught up in a betting scandal earlier this season, and has said he is not involved in any match fixing at all, and will be available for this Saturdays 4-1 win at Stenhousemuir.
Is there a bum barer clique? Is it a good thing or bad thing to be a member? Is there a venn diagram of bum barers, Carmylites, casuals and pyro defenders? Are Celtic playing Barca this week? Is Carles Puyol playing (for either team)?
Desertbhoy.
A far better school and higher education establishment than your fine self.
Judging by your punctuation and grammar.
SoT,
Australia, I believe was the first country to introduce mandatory fumigation of planes + persons arriving from India + environs…
Could be worse
could be accused of being a “bum bearer”…
Now that’s an image to conjure with.
So a Rebel from Carmyle would be a Carmelite with an Armelite???
There’s 3 things I really hate:
1. Posts about things you hate.
2. Lists.
3. Irony.
it’ssomewheretoparkmybikeCSC
BlantyreKev @ 12:56
very Good! And I wish I was clever or witty enough to be able to respond to that ;-)
Dubaibhoy…..
Carmalite with an Armalite
PedanticCSC
Is it considered worse to be a bearer of bad news than a barer of a bum?
BlantyreKev
12:56 on
10 December, 2013
There’s 3 things I really hate:
1. Posts about things you hate.
2. Lists.
3. Irony.
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4. an inability to count..?