I remember the days (as a kid) when I’d get excited about Scotland-England games. At the time the countries were neck-and-neck in the number of wins each had over the other, we knew we’d punched well above our weight for a century. Since then, the inevitable verdict of demographics has taken its toll.
Now we know we’re a small nation, inconsequential to the football world, and we’ve even starved of developmental resources compared to the riches that ploughs into the English FA from Premier League TV deals each season.
The historical rivalry remains but I don’t feel it anymore and surely English fans care even less. They will have to dig deep to muster anything more than an interest in the three points available tonight, having long since moved onto Argentina and Germany for their rivalry. And Iceland, of course (forgive me).
Great sporting rivalries can endure for generations but that doesn’t mean they’ll last forever. Circumstances can change causing both sides to lose interest and find others to do battle with. None of our 20th century rivalries will survive. If we could bloody the nose of Barcelona for a third time in the 21st century later this month, our hit rate would place the Catalans in the crosshairs. Bring it on.
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Fitba.
Same.
Greed.
EPL.
Greed.
Hardly important in the great scheme of things but nevertheless now fuelled by, and being destroyed by… greed.
International football is well past it’s sell by date.
When once it was a showcase of a country’s best talent, it is now, certainly for UK teams, a second class product.
Top teams in the big leagues have superior teams to most, if not all, International ones.
Going back a number of years, the Finals of the major tournaments have been a disappointment, even though the top countries have top players playing.
These players have, in the most part, had played in long, competitive leagues, with added International and European competitions thrown in.
By the time the finals come round, they are jaded and it shows.
For them, it is all about club football, where they earn their massive wages and that has to be protected.
For me, International football is just a festival of flag waving jingoism, which obscures the fact that it is no more relevant than a souped up testimonial game.
I will not sign any petition calling on the SFA to clean up it’s act while our board is in bed with them.
HH
TWISTS N TURNS :
The sun will come up for us both tomorrow. We have another day to be wise and pass on the good we’ve been taught. And when the sun goes down… PARTY!!!!!
AWE_NAW_NO_ANNONI_OAN_ANAW_NOO:
That must be a pretty big bed for all those incestors….
KITALBA, BMCUWP
Aye, they would have us believe it didn’t happen! A direct quote from Roosevelt:
“We have got to be tough with the Germany and I mean the German people not just the Nazis. We either have to castrate the German people, kill them or treat them in such a manner so they will never rise again.”
He actually put that in writing! Even though Roosevelt died in 1945 and Morgenthau was out of office in 1945, it was in place until 1947 before even those American politicians and “strategists” in favour of it realised they would have to change policy!
Britain is also shamed by agreeing to even the “watered down” version that came into play!
KTF
Well, that ruined my lunch.
The sight of Le Petite Merde, smugly smiling, in blue, still burns the eyes memory even after all these years.
A few months back I had an idea of writing something about that period and looked on Yous Tube to kick the old memory box into life of how successful he was at R*ngers. There is a reel of all his goals for them.
There is a sense of non-plussedness apart from one goal: a last minute winner against us where it is hugging bedlam. But, again, he always had that arrogant air.
What I do remember is that I attended a school where I was in the minority and I’m surprised that some say he was never accepted. He was. He was just never loved the way we loved him or they loved the other big names that were there at the time. He scored goals and played well for them. To your normal football fan and non-bigot that’s good enough for acceptance.
Also, I’m surprised, at the detest, some still have. From my experience the hate dispelled very quickly and by the time he was playing for Falkirk and Hearts against us the rabid hatred had disappeared as we had other things to worry about and a mercenary footballer was the least of our worries.
Yeah, the picture sends me back to a caravan park in Leven; hearing the news and the distraught depressive feeling that only 14 year old obsessive can get, but I always liked Brian McClair more anyway.
It was the same then and the same now.
When I look back I just see another chapter of largesse that eventually led to their demise. Works for me.
I’m a bit behind but what is this not paying tax thing that is mentioned regarding him?
5 in the bed and Campbell Ogilvie said roll over roll over
HH
Nice wee item on the beach bar radio re Al Capone and tax /Berlusconi phoning Plod to claim that a lifted for shoplifting Ruby The Heartstealer was Hosni Mubarak’s grandaughter and the oh How cheap and vulgar Trump University thing.
VFR800@GIRFUY.CO.UK:
Mate, with every respect, do you begin to know what happened?
How many millions that died?
And our morals were better than theirs.
If you want some recommendations of books to read (with reference) let me know.
We will all be dead soon and true history will once again be diluted.
AWE_NAW_NO_ANNONI_OAN_ANAW_NOO:
And they re still there, still touching, but quiet. Ever so quiet. Like criminal lovers.
They have much better players but they are not a great team. I fancy Scotland to get a result. Maybe even a win (depending on who is playing!).
vfr800@girfuy.co.uk on 11th November 2016 2:11 pm
KITALBA, BMCUWP
Aye, they would have us believe it didn’t happen! A direct quote from Roosevelt:
“We have got to be tough with the Germany and I mean the German people not just the Nazis. We either have to castrate the German people, kill them or treat them in such a manner so they will never rise again.”
He actually put that in writing! Even though Roosevelt died in 1945 and Morgenthau was out of office in 1945, it was in place until 1947 before even those American politicians and “strategists” in favour of it realised they would have to change policy!
Britain is also shamed by agreeing to even the “watered down” version that came into play!
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We should have told those nasty Germans to stop bombing, killing and trying to take over the world,
OR WE’D NEVER SPEAK TO THEM AGAIN!
That would have stopped the war immediately.
I’m sure.
KTF
Now, I am away for a swally.
GIRFUE!
KITALBA 201
I think only Texas can vote to leave The Union. No idea whether that’s true or not,but somewhere in the deep recesses of my memory,etc…
PHILBHOY:
Wow!! Why didn’t anybody else think of that?
Mate please research why the war happened. Please.
Good wee piece on KT on the Celtic site: http://www.celticfc.net/news/11613
KTF
kitalba on 11th November 2016 2:19 pm
Over 6M Germans died of starvation; in excess of another 5M killed in post-war Germany; enormous increase in infant mortality rate; destruction of the industrial base. Not a good time for humanity at all: to the victors, the spoils indeed.
We may not have been as bad as the Americans but we still signed up to JCS 1067.
I have read Crimes and Mercies by James Bacque but would be interested in some more reading material though.
KTF
VFR800@GIRFUY.CO.UK:
After the Reich: The Brutal History of the Allied Occupation
Savage Continent: Europe in the Aftermath of World War II
Just bullshit though mate. It never happened….
Oh, i’m buzzing for tonight.
1 each with Griffiths scoring. 35-1.
Easy money.
If you liked Simple Minds Acoustic last night its on Spotify now, available on BBC Red button too
Bobby
I’m not sure Texas can secede from the union though I may be wrong. Tried to find info on it but returned a blank.
Brexit type referendum required under current legislation.
Lifts from wiki are so obvious. Lazy journalism are YOU.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
Can Scotland vote to be itself????
But why they would discard an union to be in an union troubles me,
twists n turns on 11th November 2016 2:56 pm
Bobby
I’m not sure Texas can secede from the union though I may be wrong. Tried to find info on it but returned a blank.
Brexit type referendum required under current legislation.
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If we’d had this debate last week I could’ve asked Sharleen Spiteri; I saw her at the Celtic Anniversary Mass!
KTF
James Bacque
His book re the treatment of German POW’s- OTHER LOSSES – well worth a read.I remember hearing a radio interview with the man in which He spoke about about being threatened /spat on etc in his native Canada for “letting our side down “
SOUTH OF TUNIS
Nobody cares mate. Nobody.
Buchanan galleries evacuated. Not sure why.
KITALBA on 11th November 2016 2:50 pm
Savage Continent downloaded to my iPad; After the Reich: The Brutal History of the Allied Occupation temporary unavailable.
KITALBA on 11th November 2016 3:08 pm
An argument I’ve offered many times but never had a suitable response to. Self-determination should be self-determination. Not voting to have independence to cede it to Brussels!
KTF
Ah. Panic over. Opening again
South Of Tunis on 11th November 2016 3:11 pm
James Bacque
I picked up Crimes and Mercies in a Toronto bookshop; drew a funny look from the cashier. That explains it!
KTF
an tearmann …
if you are looking in, I managed to see the TSC broadcast last night. Really enjoyed it, so just wanted to say thanks again for the headsup! Much appreciated. Firghtened Rabbit was also good … Swin Until you cant See Land is a track I love!
HH
SoT/VFR …. spitting seems very unCanadian …. VFR … perhaps your fly was open?
“Survival in Auschwitz” by Primo Levi.
But we all know that the Gerry’s weren’t all bad.
VFR800@GIRFUY.CO.UK:
I really don’t have a clue what you are talking about.
I read, you read. I love reading.
Have you finished The McCann Take Over yet, I re-read that in one night,
It was not a big book
mike in toronto on 11th November 2016 3:28 pm
SoT/VFR …. spitting seems very unCanadian …. VFR … perhaps your fly was open?
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Mike, that would have been a longing look from the young lady ……………………
KTF
kitalba on 11th November 2016 3:32 pm
Not started David Low’s book. The problem with reading on the iPad is that I am split between 3 books at the moment because it’s easy to carry them all around! This will probably make 4 because I’ve already read the intro and skimmed chapter one! When it was actual books, it was one at a time!
KTF
VFR …
:)
I’ve met a few lovely ladies in Toronto’s books stores over the years ….(sigh) think I need to go put on some Leonard Cohen while I’m working.