Yesterday’s Scottish Cup final was head and shoulders above the insipid FA Cup final at Wembley. Newco scored two excellent goals, including one from our ex-play, Kenny Miller. But it was our current, on-loan, player, Anthony Stokes who decided the encounter.
What should we do with Anthony? His attitude yesterday was magnificent. He decided he was leaving Hampden with a winners medal, and he had the skill, strength and capacity to ensure no one could stop him.
For the first goal he collected on the wing, made a beeline for goal before slotting the ball into the far corner, although he was assisted by the most generous defending since Jersey in June 1940. [Can you believe two defenders stood off him?] Scoring with a header from a corner when your team is a goal down with 10 minutes remaining takes character and determination.
Brendan Rodgers would have been impressed, but it remains to be seen if that attitude can be tapped into day-in, day-out at Lennoxtown.
I watched Motherwell fans invade the Fir Park pitch the Premiership Play-off final last year. On that occasion their actions went beyond mere celebrations, fans were deep into opposition territory, taunting Newco fans behind the goal. To their credit, Newco fans took it on the chin and left the stadium without retaliating.
I can’t imagine what possesses fans of a losing team to invade a field already populated by thousands of celebrating fans. Whatever it is, it’s primitive and unlikely to be a considered reaction. As a result, Newco will be dragged into a disciplinary situation which would otherwise only have effected Hibernian.
What’s worse, the one perennial get out of jail card football clubs often use when fans let them down: “We always criticise and warn fans about this sort of thing”, was fatally undermined by a hasty press release in the minutes after the final whistle.
While every Hibernian person interviewed acknowledged the role of their fans and need for improvement, Newco issued an adversarial statement. Compliant friends in the media were urged to drop the role of their fans on the field. Adversarial statements create adversaries, football administrators know this. Getting strategy wrong isn’t worth a few hours PR.
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ENCYCLOPEDIA OF FOOTBALL.
European cup winners final 71/72.
MOSCO DYNAMO star man SABO attacked before the game started and struck on HEID with a SCREWTAP.this was during 5 invasions by ranjurs suopporters..the first came before kick off ,the next 3 when they scored , last at the final whistle.
the ranjurs captain john “gaise a penalty ref”greig could not be presented with the trophy on the pitch and he was given the trophy in the dressing room.
no ranjurs fishil has to this day been in touch to see how SABO is fairing,
THEYHAVECAPTUREDBARCELONAANDAREMARCHINGONMADRIDCSC.
WEEMINGER on 23RD MAY 2016 10:52 AM
‘I accept there are some politicos that were calling for a repeal early on. ‘
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Just to be clear about this.
Every Labour, Tory, Lib Dem and Green MSP voted against the legislation.
Every SNP MSP voted for the legislation.
At the Holyrood election every political party other than than the SNP pledged to repeal the Act.
SFTB @ 10.43
Egg chasing in the 80’s and 90’s — the on field violence years.
From what I was told things had calmed down a bit from the 60’s and 70’s.
Better TV pictures and the fall out from the AB(79?) JPR stamping incident calmed things down.
However in the thud and blunder lower leagues it was still game on.
Every team seemed to have their middle class psychopath out to cripple someone.
No issues off the field — no battering pensioners in a pub — but seriously dangerous on it.
Soon learned that the fitness freaks in their 30’s were the worst — just playing for another scalp.
And then there was the Borders and Lothians with their obligatory “public guardian” mentalist.
Every team had one — the skill level could be different but the violent intent was always the same.
Not sure if Lothian and Borders ever had a series team themselves — it would have been carnage.
The leagues helped but you still had the mentalists in the 3rds and 4ths.
Then you had to watch out for your own cheap shot merchants at training.
We lost our new U18 second row when someone decided to remove his two front teeth because he didn’t like his architect father. Guy had come down to get involved and lost to rugby through the actions of an utter reprobate. At the time I thought it was an accident but sooner learned the reality.
Great game though — the good vastly outweighed the bad.
But yes you are right — different strokes for different folks.
Different now as the game is a career in itself.
It’ll be a great day… The day that the club bans that Daily Record thing for good.
HH.
ERNIE LYNCH on 23RD MAY 2016 11:10 AM
DHARMA BAM on 23RD MAY 2016 11:03 AM
The logic is beyond you.
Ergo the predictable personal insult .
It`s all you`ve got.
McGeady is training with Ireland today. He’s not in the squad for the play-off final.
Bring him home?
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Apart from being sick of hearing about the cup final ‘riots’, it’s a shame the likes of sky sports news have not showed the goals since! Total deflection from the fact newco got pumped by hibs in what was a cracking game. Hibs fans must also regret the pitch invasion as it stopped the players properly celebrating.
Big day at parkhead today, what a feel good day! Could be thousands turning up, what yous think?
Timaloy
Yes, get him signed. He’ll be affordable now his stock has fallen. Really surprised he couldn’t hold down a place at Sheffield Wednesday to be honest. Needs a fresh start, don’t think Everton would be tough to deal with.
Haven’t scrolled back…but I’m sure the question has been asked
Any of the “press” called them out on the different shite/same flies sectarian songbook?
HH
Ernie
Any answers why Labour have provided finacial support for sectarian marches ?
MacJay
You are just a wind up merchant.
And on the occasions you are caught out (not by me in my previous comment) you can’t take it.
Ernie Lynch
The Greens have made a change to their stand on the act. P. Harvie said 2 weeks ago on Politics Scotland that he preferred this now to go before the Justice Committee, as some parts of the act were ok. This may now be a way out for the SNP por cierto.
ERNIE LYNCH on 23RD MAY 2016 11:16 AM
Sorry I did say it was a quick response.
Are you saying that every MP that voted against and every party that voted against remained vocal about it? It wasn’t my impression but I’m happy to accept that it might be flawed. There certainly seemed to be an increase in support from MPs for the repeal when it looked like a vote winner.
I really do hope they all stick with it and use the majority they now have to get it removed.
What’s your feeling on that happening?
DHARMA BAM on 23RD MAY 2016 11:28 AM
MacJay
You are just a wind up merchant.
And on the occasions you are caught out (not by me in my previous comment) you can’t take it.
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My comment was directed to S.F.T.B. who at the very least is able to contribute at a cerebral level .
And then there`s you.
Q.E.D. !
DHARMA BAM on 23RD MAY 2016 11:33 AM
Q.E.D. !
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Quod erat demonstrandum.
Glad you agree .
MACJAY1 FOR NEIL LENNON on 23RD MAY 2016 11:20 AM
Logic?
The SNP introduced legislation that has had serious adverse effects on a section of the Celtic support, as Celtic supporters, as was the intention of those who passed the legislation.
Yet there are SNP supporters on here who seek to question the motives of those taking steps to have the legislation repealed.
Party before Club, all day long, in respect of a specific piece of legislation.
How you can equate that with someone supporting a general political ideology like socialism is, as you rightly say, beyond me.
You went for a cheap, glib, inane soundbite. Logic had no part in what you had to say.
MacJay1 repeats another poster’s words with a one word change, and in turn those words are reposted with the changed word again substituted by another.
And then resorts to insults.
O Tempora! O Mores!
PC @ 11.30
Just who would have thought it — Slimy / holier than thou Greens coming to save St Nic’s erse.
No wonder people have such a low opinion of politicians.
PABLOH on 23RD MAY 2016 11:27 AM
Timaloy
Yes, get him signed. He’ll be affordable now his stock has fallen. Really surprised he couldn’t hold down a place at Sheffield Wednesday to be honest. Needs a fresh start, don’t think Everton would be tough to deal with.
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Agreed
He obviously has the quality, especially if Ross Wallace can get a game!
Everton would let him go on a free I’d bet!
Lionroars67
I’ll be at CQN corner around 5.30pm.
ERNIE LYNCH on 23RD MAY 2016 11:37 AM
MACJAY1 FOR NEIL LENNON on 23RD MAY 2016 11:20 AM
Logic?
The SNP introduced legislation that has had serious adverse effects on a section of the Celtic support, as Celtic supporters, as was the intention of those who passed the legislation.
Yet there are SNP supporters on here who seek to question the motives of those taking steps to have the legislation repealed.
Party before Club, all day long, in respect of a specific piece of legislation.
How you can equate that with someone supporting a general political ideology like socialism is, as you rightly say, beyond me.
You went for a cheap, glib, inane soundbite. Logic had no part in what you had to say.
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You think S.F.T.B. needs a minder ?
I am surprised Paul67 poses the question of what to do with Tony Stokes.
For me that answer remains clear-cut.
Punt him.
Stokes time at Hibs resembles his 4.5 years at Celtic. Playing well once in every 4 games or so, I’m sorry is just not sufficient as a Celtic player.
The only thing missing from the Sevco statement last night was the words ‘No Surrender’ at the end.
I shouldn’t be surprised by the statement I suppose given that David Cunningham King, who pleaded guilty to 41 crimes in South Africa is considered to be a Fit and Proper person by the SFA. That looks to be coming back to haunt them and Scottish society
Judge Brian Southwood said the court had seen King testify for four days and “are unanimous in finding that he is a mendacious witness whose evidence should not be accepted on any issue unless it is support by documents and other objective evidence”.
Enjoy the family atmosphere at Celtic Park today and lets hope that the authorities are allowed to deal with those responsible for Saturday’s events in an appropriate and proportionate manner without further attempts to manipulate the process.
DHARMA BAM on 23RD MAY 2016 11:37 AM
As I said.
The logic escaped you.
Q.E.D.
BIG-CUP-WINNERS on 23RD MAY 2016 11:28 AM
Ernie
‘Any answers why Labour have provided finacial support for sectarian marches ?’
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No.
I assume you’re talking about events in Falkirk.
As I understand it the Labour and SNP cooncillors agreed to waive fees for any organisation wanting to hold a march (I’m not sure how many organisation march around Falkirk, so I’m not sure who would benefit from this largess, other than the OO) and Labour went further by awarding the OO a grant for reasons I cannot fathom. Maybe it was so they could buy some new suites, or learn some different tunes though I suspect it was just parish pump, pork barrel politics of the worst kind.
Chill out everyone, today is a good day :D
CLOGHER CELT on 23RD MAY 2016 11:41 AM
‘The only thing missing from the Sevco statement last night was the words ‘No Surrender’ at the end.’
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FTP?
DHARMA BAM on 23RD MAY 2016 11:37 AM
The SNP introduced legislation that was intended to, and has targeted, a section of the Celtic support, as Celtic supporters.
Correct?
Has Socialism done the same?
Has Capitalism done the same?
If you can’t see the difference I have nothing more to say other perhaps than have you ever considered being a referee?
Stokes
He’s another in reformed Griffiths.
I’m probably CQN’s biggest Griffiths fan. I wanted him long before we signed him.
I like these edgy forwards.. Thing is they need managed and baby sat.
The likes of Stokes needs a period of 6 months with a minder. He needs his every move monitored and his behaviours on and off the pitch questioned. The biggest question for him is: why don’t you work harder?
Work harder in training. Work harder in games. Work harder off the pitch.
He is a talent who if he works harder 24/7 we would struggle to attract to Celtic park.
I remember in the stokes/ hooper era thinking that Stokes was more valuable long term than hooper and advocated building the team round him. In subsequent years his life choices have made me question if he is worth the effort. On Saturday he made me decide that he is well worth the effort. Rodgers could be a great fit for him.
Deila was never going to work Stokes on any level.
Party political squabbling…Today.
Give us a break from this guff.
SNP, Labour, Tory…..peddling the same tired old bs.
Its Brendan’s Day….crack a smile ffs.
HH
Chiil Out, Ernie Baby!
This isn’t about the Act, MacJay1 was intending to elicit a response by changing one of a previous poster’s comment. I did the same, in reply to him, (reflecting his own actions) and I seem to have struck a nerve in the ole Antipodean.
TIMALOY, Bring McGeady home,don’t think so,In my opinion,when you play for Celtic,then when you are transferred to another football club,all this wanting to come back,for they are not on,same as Lennon he walked out ,saying the transfer kitty was a pittance,I think he thought he would get a big club down south to manage,were did he end up Bolton in the Championship, and then they got relegated, and all of a sudden his head pops up,with Ronny not out the door,putting himself in the picture to return and manage Celtic,but Dermot put paid to that,by getting Brendan Rogers,I just hope he Lennon isn’t one of Brendan’s Backroom Staff,back to McGeady ,stay were your at,
How any of you can swallow the s**** that comes out of the mouths of politicians, is truly beyond me.
There are a multitude of clever and educated people on CQN.
However, constantly churning the ideological stupidity of the likes of Kezia Dugdale, Nicola Sturgeon, and Ruth Davidson, is laughable.
Grow up ffs.
Its silly in the extreme to even give these political windbags the time of day, never mind repeating their mantra’s.
Give me a break from this insufferable nonsense.
Brendan Rodgers…Celtic manager.
That is what im interested in.
HH
You have to feel sorry for the ole SFA.
Not only does their works XI get beat in the Final but they’re goin’ to have to put in a hellofa lot of overtime to find a way to blame Neil Lennon for the riot.
Shortbread 12 midday headlines:
“Thousands of HIBS fans invaded the pitch, sparking clashes with OPPOSITION fans.
Ffs. Newspeak.
Political chat on Brendan’s day?
Enough already!
Will one of the hacks ask him how he intends to vote on the EU referendum?
Does he support Scottish independence?
His views on a united Ireland?
Gies peace!
HH!!