Yesterday’s Scottish Cup final was head and shoulders above the insipid FA Cup final at Wembley. Newco scored two excellent goals, including one from our ex-play, Kenny Miller. But it was our current, on-loan, player, Anthony Stokes who decided the encounter.
What should we do with Anthony? His attitude yesterday was magnificent. He decided he was leaving Hampden with a winners medal, and he had the skill, strength and capacity to ensure no one could stop him.
For the first goal he collected on the wing, made a beeline for goal before slotting the ball into the far corner, although he was assisted by the most generous defending since Jersey in June 1940. [Can you believe two defenders stood off him?] Scoring with a header from a corner when your team is a goal down with 10 minutes remaining takes character and determination.
Brendan Rodgers would have been impressed, but it remains to be seen if that attitude can be tapped into day-in, day-out at Lennoxtown.
I watched Motherwell fans invade the Fir Park pitch the Premiership Play-off final last year. On that occasion their actions went beyond mere celebrations, fans were deep into opposition territory, taunting Newco fans behind the goal. To their credit, Newco fans took it on the chin and left the stadium without retaliating.
I can’t imagine what possesses fans of a losing team to invade a field already populated by thousands of celebrating fans. Whatever it is, it’s primitive and unlikely to be a considered reaction. As a result, Newco will be dragged into a disciplinary situation which would otherwise only have effected Hibernian.
What’s worse, the one perennial get out of jail card football clubs often use when fans let them down: “We always criticise and warn fans about this sort of thing”, was fatally undermined by a hasty press release in the minutes after the final whistle.
While every Hibernian person interviewed acknowledged the role of their fans and need for improvement, Newco issued an adversarial statement. Compliant friends in the media were urged to drop the role of their fans on the field. Adversarial statements create adversaries, football administrators know this. Getting strategy wrong isn’t worth a few hours PR.
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LIONROARS67
I’m sure Brendan knows exactly what to expect, with everybody in Scottish football running scared of the huns and their bitches in the press today is a fine day to stamp our authority on the new era at Celtic Park and at our press conferences.
Set the standard Celtic.
OHITS
Without a doubt. I watched the narrative being amended as each piece of footage unfolded.
They claimed initially the Hibs fans were trying to come into their area and they were preventing them from doing so.
When that was blown out of the water they claimed they thought they were trying to come into their area.
After a few of their own said they didn’t that was the case either, it moved to the current story being touted by TRFC officials that ” they were protecting their players”
Pitiful. The truth is simple yet will remain untold. The taunting Hibs fans got them into permarage and they went on to the field to meet them head on.
Understandable actually! Likely the same thing would have happened if Jambos had done the same at the Celtic end. ( in my opinion)
So why the nonsense from their officials?
They were provoked. They reacted .
It has been a side splitting weekend and a joy to see so many old posters come out of lurking to contribute support for BroMhan and to laugh at deidco. All good keep the faith and get behind 6ix. You know it’s the green and white thing to do. Looking forward to a green and white CQN season and close season. Hail hail
A fair punishment would be Hibs thrown out of the Europa Cup and the runners up being allowed to take their place….
What we need is an independent enquiry headed up by the Orange Lodge….
This could all have been easily avoided if one of the Hibs goal had been disallowed (for whatever – e.g.pushing) and rangers had been given their customary penalty ….
Nice to be bystanders watching Huns, Hibs, SFA, Police Scotland and G4S rip each other apart…..
There will be no winners in this fight only losers…
Thankfully Celtic are not involved..
Traynor has made lots of bad calls.. I’m enjoying watching him blunder.
I still believe any fines should be distributed to all other clubs who have there reputations tarnished by their association with Scottish Football
Through no fault of their own.
My guess is that nothing will happen.
Some eejit on Radio Scotland saying the Green Brigade made thei way to Hampden to fight………. deerie me.
Whither the cash strapped scrofulous hillbillies the day?
TWISTS AND TURNS
They really are an embarrassment , the thing that really got to me was the fact that the last thing we need is someone fanning the flames . Some poor innocent supporter , probably wearing Green and White will end up paying for it big time .
They could have sat back and took stock and released a measured statement today but with our good news weekend and the fact that the Lying King is now potless they rushed out these knee jerk statements to keep the hordes buying there S/Ts for the crumble dome to keep the lights on .
On a lighter note hows the nags ? think that Dettori horse Memsah (spelling ) that won last Saturday is a bit special .
HH
Media will try and drag Brendan Rodgers into the hampden aftermath. Celtic need to be streetwise and deal with it up front –this is a matter for the authorities to deal with and not Celtic.
Jackson shows with his spoon fed Jabba piece that he should not have a NUJ card and that there is no place back at Celtic Park for him.
Any journo who tries to sabotage Celtics press conference (like New Balance deal) needs to be banned immediately. If it is the Record all links should be cut.
Celtic need to take control of this press conference as there are plenty who love to create a problem for the club after the weekend shenanigans.
The only thing missing from that ‘statement(sic)’, was a criticism of Celtic for loaning Hibs Anthony Stokes (2 goals) and Liam Henderson (2 assists).
“Snaw fair, it’s a Fenian conspiracy. WATP!
GIRFUT!
HH!!
Morning Celts.
Wow, the sevconians are losing the plot.
They are badly under pressure, their reaction to defeat shows how desperate they are.
Massive deflection shield.
The basis of it….is their fear of Brendan and Celtic.
We should be thriving on their fear, winding them up, and letting them know, they are skint.
I cannot wait till they turn on Dave King.
That will be box office.
Pay to see that:)
Come on Brendan, smash them to smithereens.
They need brought back to reality.
Loving their fear….gives me a buzz:)
HH
Cultsbhoy
See my reply to Twists , unfortunately the chances are with the type of statements they are putting out we will become involved indirectly by their hatred of all things Green and someone will have a price to pay . Its the way they are !!!!
HH
CULTSBHOY – LIKES LAWWELL BACK IN HIS BOX on 23RD MAY 2016 10:17 AM
Nice to be bystanders watching Huns, Hibs, SFA, Police Scotland and G4S rip each other apart…..
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Exactly my sentiments.
Enjoying a wee smirk. :-)
Great opportunity for Celtic to put down a marker today on acceptable conduct of the meeja, anyone asking questions with references to other clubs opinions should be invited to leave the conference and seek their answers from the clubs they reference, with an open invitation to return when they want to discuss Celtic and our agenda, any other agenda will be ignored.
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION
Big banner above Brendan’s head
WE DON’T DEAL WITH C**TS
The inevitable question will be asked.
Brendan what do you make of yesterday’s events at Hampden….Where Hibs fans rioted?
A simple reply would be…..That is not our concern, nothing whatsoever to do with Celtic.
I really hope Celtic are ready for these hun journos today.
It shouldnt be that difficult surely.
HH
Starry …,
:) with the exception of the SFA :)
Allyhuntersgloves on 23rd May 2016 10:19 am
Some eejit on Radio Scotland saying the Green Brigade made thei way to Hampden to fight………. deerie me
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Yeah I heard that. Apparently the green and white scarves was the telling factor. I mean it’s not like there was a team who play in green and white playing in Glasgow was there? I mean they couldn’t POSSIBLY have any supporters who maybe live in Glasgow?
TGM
Q “Brendan what do you make of yesterday’s events at Hampden….Where Hibs fans rioted?
A ” I couldn’t see what was happening for red white and blow smoke. I did ask what was happening but couldn’t hear the reply cos of the ‘billy boys’ song.
I honestly expect a lot of Celtic supporters to be let down today, BR will be getting primed to show respect and say only nice things about the team with a great history playing out of ibrox.
Is there a CQN corner meet today ?
Looking forward to giving our new boss a Celtic welcome
OHITS
Horses actually going ok at present. Had a decent weekend.
I think Little Belter will get off the mark at Ayr today.
First negative comment in ages.
weeminger @ 9:19 am
Rugby players fighting has got about as much to do with the OBFA as the myriad incidents of football players fighting.
There are many many fewer incidents of footballers swinging punches than there were in rugby from the 60s, 70s and 80s. The snobbish attitude existed that these were gentlemen sorting their differences while the footballers were hooligans and thugs. Willie John McBride’s “99 call” is regaled with amusement: Duncan Ferguson’s head butt was the work of a thug. That is how the narrative gets spun and we buy into it.
As I said earlier, tragically this is going to end any hopes of a repeal of OBFA, and that’s because those that proposed it will lose what little spines they had.
As I said and you have just proven, the SNP supporters will continue to blame those that tried to support our fans by repealing the OBFA and excuse those who continued to advocate and support it. The spines of James Kelly et al were still stiff enough to advocate this move in the face of Nicola reneging on her hustings promise to consider the Act again. With the “spineless ones” proving brave enough to move ahead with their measure to defeat the Act in the face of Nicola’s attack dogs painting them as being motivated solely by anti-SNP and pro-sectarianism motives. Those are the people we should be calling out but some of us are proving to be SNP supporters first and Celtic supporters second, in the way we frame this development.
Of course it will be a harder argument to force through in the wake of Saturday. And only two groups will be using Saturday as an argument to maintain the OBFA. The SNP because they will use this to vindicate their approach (regardless of the fact that the violence was punishable by other existing laws and despite the fact that no action will be taken about the mass singing which IS clearly covered by this Act). That is the hypocrite’s narrative that will be used and I, for one, ain’t buying it nor lending it any credence by taking their side.
And the second group in favour is Rangers fans, because they want Hibs (and the madder ones want Celtic too) punished for Saturday.
As seems so often the case the SNP has placed themselves in a win:win with it. If it was repealed – they can say they thought it was the right thing, but they have followed the will of the people. Now they can easily engineer we were right all along.
Whatever they are, they are very, very good at playing the game of politics.
Except they hadn’t. They opposed the repeal before Saturday and they are firmly resolved to shame anyone that tries to talk sense about the faults of the Act. Their attack dogs were out last week before they had Saturday to add to their evidence. Their game plan was obvious- to paint the opposition as pro-sectarianism and anti-SNP. That is as clever a retort as Celtic fans being dismissed as “obsessives”. It is no argument, merely a retort.
Mrs. Thatcher used to be painted as a clever despatch box operator. But she never ever had to say anything clever to gain this reputation. All it took was a compliant media and a sycophantic fan group of voters in order to gain an unjustified reputation as a “Clever” politician.
Well, I ain’t complying. And I won’t worship deviousness as cleverness. I will support the guys who tried to take the right line in opposing the Act and I will maintain my focus on those who oppose them. You just did the opposite in praising the SNP and maligning the guys in favour.
Back into work now- tea break over
Twists n Turns
Loads of possible replies.
I like this one: ‘Would you please leave, and dont come back’
Or the rather more abrupt ‘Feck off:)
HH
TWISTS AND TURNS
Watched Keatley getting interviewed after his Curragh winner yesterday , he expects his Ayr runners to go well today .
HH
Looking forward to next season’s Rodgers v Todgers confrontations and to the huns getting Rodgered on a regular basis.
OHITS
I seen that interview. He seemed bullish
SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 23RD MAY 2016 10:43 AM
Very quickly.
I accept there are some politicos that were calling for a repeal early on. However, many jumped on it in the run up to the election as they thought it was a vote winner. It’s them that I refer to. I believe the act was wrong then, and is wrong now and none of the reasons for that have changed since Saturday. So the same should be true of all those calling for a repeal. I’ll withdraw that insult and reserve judgement until we see where it goes from here.
It still stands as a win:win as far as I’m concerned. As I said the SNP would have been able to stand by it but if defeated on the repeal show that they respecting democratic process. Easily spun as a win. If the motion is now withdrawn, or they win they can claim it was the right thing to do from the get go. Either way they can gain political traction.
The law is wrong, I want it removed from the statutes. Saturday makes that more difficult.
Can anyone advise me are Dafabet now the stadium bookies for this season ? If not its time we binned Ladbrokes after the rubbish they came out with over the weekend regarding next years SPFL .
HH
As ever entertaining and he hits a few nails on the head
http://etims.net/?p=9160
S.F.T.B.
“Those are the people we should be calling out but some of us are proving to be SNP supporters first and Celtic supporters second, in the way we frame this development. ‘
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Absolutely beautiful and dead right.
Sadly , you seem to have no problem with the fact that :
some of us are proving to be socialism supporters first and Celtic supporters second
Now , ain`t that the truth ?
Weeminger,
I don’t see how Saturday makes it any more difficult, it is failed legislation and if anything Saturday proves that, it made no difference the the behaviour of the sevco support and never has.
Some of us are proving to be right wing supporters first and Celtic supporters second
Is that the reaction you were hoping for MacJay1? :-D
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 23RD MAY 2016 11:01 AM
I think it will be very difficult for politicians to come out and say a specific law about behaviour at football is unnecessary after that, that’s all.
I’d love to be wrong.
I see that Irish reporter Tom English has Welshed on his recent comments on the Scottish cup final.
HUNDERBIRDS ARE GONE on 23RD MAY 2016 11:06 AM
What has he been saying? Any links?
MACJAY1 FOR NEIL LENNON on 23RD MAY 2016 10:58 AM
S.F.T.B.
‘Sadly , you seem to have no problem with the fact that :
some of us are proving to be socialism supporters first and Celtic supporters second’
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I don’t wish to be insulting, but that’s inane.