By all accounts, Virgil van Dijk has had an excellent season for Southampton and now has a trio of the Premier League’s wealthiest clubs on his tail. We knew he was a player when he left as a 23-year-old two years ago, but you don’t really know how a player will measure up in a new environment until he gets there.
Scottish club have suffered from this previously, as players with decent EPL experience under their belts have not cut it herem even Bundesliga players, in the case of Teemu Pukki. Virgil’s success, and that of Victor Wanyama and ‘England’s number one’, reflects on everyone in the current Celtic squad.
You and I watched Celtic bridge the gap between selling our players in the £4m – £6m bracket, to selling between £10m and £12m. But we have hitherto been unable to fetch the kind of money the Portuguese regularly get for their top players (well into the £30m category).
If Virgil van Dijk leaves Southampton for north of £50m, not only will Celtic earn 10% of the fee, at a stroke it will increase the value of our playing squad, whenever the next EPL club comes asking.
Within just over a year of leaving Celtic, I have it on excellent authority that Virgil increased his wages by a factor of 10. His next move, by necessity, will see him earn over £100k per week. Celtic will not compete with those wages; players will not reject them to continue to enjoy our special club. We live in an era where Celtic players can one day aspire to earn £20m over a four year contract (elsewhere).
The migration south will continue, but if it is appropriately compensated, the opportunity for growth at Celtic will not diminish. It could even improve. Good luck to you, Virgil.
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hoops
Good morning CQN.
They are so far off us it’s laughable. Not relevant anymore.
HH EnnisBhoy
timvincibles
Nobody was pass the ball to Teemu Pukki. I always thought he was a player and how much did we actually get for him when he moved on?
From James Doleman
Jury shown a letter from lawyer, Gary Withey to Murray, says cost of “Project Charlotte” would be £33m adds Liberty Capital has the funds.
AD quotes Mike McGill of Murray Group, “this was not a fire sale.”
AD says Whyte had no right to sell Rangers season tickets before he owned the club
AD “In no possible view” could Whyte’s commitments in the Share Purchase Agreement be truthful.
AD notes he and Gary Withey had an “extraordinary exchange” over the nature of a client account, notes it was Whyte who instructed Withey
“Mr Whyte was very much aware of what was taking place”
AD on Merchant Capital funds “In no way was this Mr Whyte’s to use, it was somebody elses money.”
AD Says Whyte had no authority over the Jerome pension fund money. Was held by Collyer Bristow but could only be released by them
Under Pedro The Rangers will not aspire to ‘total football’, instead they will staunchly adhere to ‘Tactical Periodization’ football.
If you have a moment Google – Tactical Periodization – and see if you think vegetables could comprehend and execute the concept.
Pedro is lucky he doesn’t still have wee Barry and big Boydie in the dressing room otherwise he’d be offski ala PLG.
I’d just like to add a further comment to my post yesterday with regards to Bruno’s warning to Celtic.
Hahahahahahahahah – absolutely priceless Bruno you’re a very funny man. Just one wee bit of advice for you – “Come Back when you are sober”
Bendigo,
You can’t keep a good Donegal man down!
I hope he helps Buffon get his medal.
South of Tunis:
The brush they are trying to tar Whyte with could so easily be applied to Sir David.
At least Whyte paid back the bank what they were due. (Ticketus insisted on that)
And the bank was so appreciative of the gesture they immediately closed all the RFC accounts and sine die’d them.
James Doleman
Adds That Gary Withey had accepted he “could not have written a cheque” for the money on the purchase date
AD notes it has been suggested the Ticketus agreement was the “talk of the town” but there is no evidence Murray knew
“Murray would have walked away if they had known”
AD says that even if Murray did not disclose everything during takeover “That has no bearing on the false representations Mr Whyte made.”
AD “The evidence about the historical governance of Rangers has no relevance”
AD “This is a criminal trial with two questions, was the crime committed and was the accussed responsible, not a breach of contract case”
AD “It’s been suggested David Murray might have known about the Ticketus agreement, the evidence is clear, he did not.”
AD notes Whyte asked for changes to a cash flow doc to remove references to Ticketus “This is part of the deceit, could be nothing else”
Give the new boy across the city a break! He’s coming home!
Last name: Alves
This interesting surname is predominantly of Scottish origin, and is a locational name from Alves in Morayshire. It is usually pronounced as one syllable, the “a” sounded long as in “alms”. The placename is believed to have been a derivative of the Gaelic “all”, white. During the Middle Ages when migration for the purpose of job-seeking was becoming more common, people often took their former village name as a means of identification, thus resulting in a wide dispersal of the name. The surname is first recorded in the latter half of the 13th Century (see below). Alexander Alves was admitted burgess of Aberdeen in 1406, and Bessie Alves was a witness in Elgin (1661). Alexander Alves and David Alves were church elders in the parish of Alves in 1685. In some instances the surname may be of Portuguese origin, and is a patronymic form of the personal name “Alvaro”, composed of the Germanic elements “all”, all, with “wer”, true. One Robert Alves (1745 – 1794), was head-master at Banff grammar school. He taught classics and modern languages in Edinburgh, and also published poems, and literary history. A Coat of Arms granted to the family is a silver shield, on a blue chevron between three green trefoils slipped, three silver mullets, a black bordure, the Crest being a gold garb. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Walter de Alveys, which was dated 1263, in the “Acts of the Parliaments of Scotland”, during the reign of King Alexander 111 of Scotland, 1249 – 1286.
from the Internet Surname Data Base.
We live in an era where Celtic players can one day aspire to earn £20m over a four year contract (elsewhere).
The migration south will continue, but if it is appropriately compensated, the opportunity for growth at Celtic will not diminish. It could even improve. Good luck to you, Virgil.
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Problem here is how just do you build a stable team structure if we only attract quality players who only see Celtic as a step to the riches of the EPL. We Keep them for a season or so then sell them for huge amounts of money, in Scottish football terms that is. True it is probably the only way we can attract the likes of Virgil, Victor, Moussa and Paddy to the team.
Anyone heard news on Armstrong’s contract talks? Seems to be dragging on a wee bit!
James Doleman:
AD says discussion of electronic transfers and cheques is irrelevant as the “money was not there.”
AD shows jury letter from David Horne to Whyte when press revealed the Ticketus deal. Asks for information on details of transaction
“It’s plain there was a dishonest representation on the source of funds”
“It’s plain there was a dishonest representation on the source of funds”
Adds “This is the sort of thing that would strike fear into the hearts of law students”
AD says essential point of section is that it is illegal to acquire a company using it’s own resources.
AD “It wasn’t about just paying a pound” bank debt had to be paid
bank
Says Ticketus lent money to Rangers who then lent it to Whyte who then paid the bank.
“Financial assistance”
Recommend watching toms goal on u tube to the sound of the titanic music
Spine tingling . Especially with a wee shandy in yee!!
Tactical Periodisation
God help us……
HH
Corbyn in!!
NORMANSTREET49:
I actually was curious as to what it was all about. I googled it and started reading up on it. I wish I hadn’t, now I have a headache.
Football is a simple game, it is not a science. The hun players have no hope of implementing what I read because Pedro is not articulate enough in English to convey its meaning. That is assuming he actually understands it himself in the first place. And if he does,and he is any good at it… what is he doing at Ibrox….
AD now reading out relevant section of companies act.
“How can it be good faith when you actively conceal the details..notes if you sell future season tickets “you run out of money at some point
AD suggests “Mr Whyte knew what he was doing”
Says case is simple “Craig Whyte deceived Murray, used assets of club to buy it”
Adds “false and dishonest representation”
AD “This has been a long case, but not as long as it could have been. I now sit down and don’t say any more”
AD closes by thanking the jury for their attention
Court adjourns. Donald Findlay to make his speech for the defence tomorrow at 10am
Attempting to do 4 years of work in the space of 6 weeks they are now.
It must be like one of those house decorating daytime TV shows, where the try and transform a council house into a luxury villa in a day.
Ultimately the house is left in a worse state than it was when they began – the poor occupants mortified.
A disaster of a club it is.
HH.
WEEBAWBABITTY:
This is good too.
Is that Estadio I see in the crowd?
Tom Rogic’s Cup Final Winning Goal with “Nessun Dorma”
What is going on at Aberdeen?
The nucleus of their first team appear to be off and rumours of the manager, too.
If true, then unless they can recruit quality and bed them in, with a new manager, then second place will be a shoe in for Sevco.
I don’t see Edinburgh putting up a sustained campaign.
If Mc.Innes does move on, I think the current St.Mirren boss could do a good job up there.
I read a post that Rodgers wasn’t happy with the performances of the u17’s.
Add the rumour of Hartley joining the coaching staff, would that suggest the end of O’Halloran’s tenure?
What position did David Moss have at the club?
THOMTHETHIM FOR OSCAR OK.
IMHO Hibs will be our biggest rivals next Season, NFL will be up there. I wouldn’t underestimate our Lenny. I don’t see sevco going anywhere under Pedro and can see him getting the push before there year is out.
there=the
An interesting article from Paul67. Well after all it is now the season for expectation management.
In between winning the game against hearts and the cup final Mr Lawwell was as ever telling us via the MSM that we would not be “going mad” spending money etc.
Celtic have amassed a sizeable amount in the bank and have an opportunity now to push on.
But we wont.
We never do.
And we never learn.
And Paul67 is here to get the excuses in early.
My only question is, how much of this nonsense will Brendan put up with?
Interesting that what CW did after taking over has not been the subject of examination. He undertook to pay the wtc bill but, as will be revealed, led HMRC a dance for 2 months and lied to UEFA at the monitoring points in June and September with SFA participation and encouragement as licence was fraudulently granted in the first instance – potential my derriere.
The SFA’s role in allowing what took place in 2011 has to be investigated, if only to ensure lessons are learned and the circumstances cannot be repeated in order to protect individual shareholdings. It is a fiduciary duty as Canalamar has pointed out and Celtic are accountable to shareholders, as are the SFA via Celtic as their member club. Had there been more direct accountability to the paying customer / shareholders the corruption from 1999 could never have happened.
Regardless of whether CW committed fraud against RFC, Celtic were the victims of fraud in 2011 if the definition Prentice provided in court is applicable.
AD (Prentice) defines fraud: “A false pretence, dishonestly made, in order to obtain some practical result.”
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6uWzxhblAt9VGQ0MzAzelliNjg/view again, potential my a**e.
Shamrock Rovers v Celtic 8th July 2017
A STOR MHA CHROI , thanks for that,
last night of holiday, will keep it for later
I see that David Moss was assistant 1st team scout.
Didn’t know that.
Nothing new there then!
If we do get a 5 mil windfall due to the sale of VVD it should be used towards buying PR. After all its money we didnt expect. Put another 5 mil on top and i think they would accept.
Barney67,
Of course, I hope you are right.
However, I believe the hun will bulldoze their way through the league, aided and abetted by officialdom.
I’m not sure Lenny will have the quality of players to sustain a challenge.
I have doubts whether he will have the will to impose the fitness regime required, or the players who will accept it.
Neil is still old school, reared in the philosophy of O’Neil and Strachan.
Hearts won’t do much either.
Aberdeen remain the enigma.
Neganon
Is any of what Paul said not true? If its true then its not expectation management its realism management.
We cannot compete with the wages on offer in the EPL and its nonsense to expect us to. Celtic earn every penny, clubs down there get paid for turning up.
What I’d expect is spend commensurate with income banked and EL level income which is more or less guaranteed this year, taking contracts lengths into account and perhaps a bit of risk in expecting to qualify again if the right player for the right position turns up.
An incremental build season on season each on the one before.
Rodgers is a smart fella, I think its a challenge he understands and is well up for given his ability to develop players that will command big money should CL qualification not be achieved.
NEGANON2
Glad to see you’re aware enough to annually post that our expectations are managed.
Always good to see the blog traditions being kept up.
I wonder what Brendan had to say on it???
WHAT IS THE STARS on 1ST JUNE 2017 12:42 PM
Corbyn in!!
With the help of Allah and his Prophet.Peace be upon him.
I will go with any help to defeat that lying tramp May.
Dont get me started on Ruth Davidson.
Friendly v Shamrock Rovers on July 8th in Eire.
Numpties are still numpties. Good season or not.
AULDHEID:
The prosecution are not interested what happened post the take-over. It wasn’t part of the purported crime.
Whyte did nothing that Murray hadn’t done before him. Muppet mud wrestling.
Findlay has his chance tomorrow. I noticed that the prosecution in their summing up digressed to show documents to the jury… to nail down the fraud, the real fraud is the fraud that went on between the BOS and RFC PLC prior to Craig Whytes take-over which was ignored by the SMSM, aided and abetted by the SFA and ignored by the Scottish Parliament at the expense of the Scottish populace.
The real FRAUD is Scotland’s refusal to arrest the fraudsters and instead try to fry a pastie.
NEGANON2 on 1ST JUNE 2017 1:32 PM,wrote,
“How much of this nonsense will BR put up with”
Nobody knows,but considering how much nonsense this blog puts up with from you,it could be infinite.
As usual,on with the negatives before a ball is kicked.Not a player inquired about,as far as we know,only gibberish from the SMSM,but Neganon firing salvos at PL without a shred of evidence.