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I see Celtic fans are being blamed for rumours of Newco’s administration by their former manager, Ally McCoist. He could argue that. Alternatively, you could suggest that a business unable to secure bank borrowing, dependent on funding from directors, who will soon be forced to find £11m to make a share offer, has created more than enough financial uncertainty without Celtic fans’ assistance.

McCoist suggested “even the biggest Celtic fans in the country” do not want to see Newco go into administration. Not so sure you are right there, Ally. Personally, I would find it a funny, but it is not going to change anything. It would not lead to relegation and will not change the title race in any way.

The most significant outcome of administration could be forcing control from Dave King. Which would be a source of enormous regret.

You hang in there, Dave.

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  1. Turkeybhoy on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 13TH JANUARY 2018 10:05 PM

     

    TURKEYBHOY

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Joking,aincha?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I could play a bit when I was a kid,but I canny see the length of the oche now.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I’d love to have a pint with you,regardless. And your mate. Some day,one day.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Btw,can he lend me a tenner?

     

     

     

    Bobby,I have a nice wee boat here.His makes mine look like Dinghy.Apart from that,he is a sta.No big mouth Yank.Nice guy,who for some strange reason,loves me.In a manly way,not biblical.

  2. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    Well,I’m shocked that the mods have seen fit to delete one of my posts again. And as usual,without a nod nor explanation.

     

     

    There I was praising the much-missed MACJAY in response to another much-loved poster.

     

     

    ACCESS DENIED.

     

     

    Utter garbage,this. If you take the time to trawl through the posts-and I’ve no problem with that-I think it’s only fair and polite to explain.

  3. Turkeybhoy on

    THE_HUDDLE on 13TH JANUARY 2018 10:06 PM

     

    Turkeybhoy

     

     

     

     

    ——————

     

     

     

     

    The only people that want to watch Celtic play Ajax, are Celtic and Ajax fans. That’s the problem. History counts for nothing.

     

     

     

    I know,but in a Euro league,they would be sell outs.

     

    Thats all he is saying and I have to say,he is right.He,like anyone who would put money into such a league,are all thinking the same

     

    Can you imagine any of those games at Celtic Park,not being close to selloutIf we were challenging.

  4. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    TURKEYBHOY

     

     

    It’s a good feeling when you meet someone who looks you in the eye and not your wallet. Give him my best,buy him a pint on me,and that will be two I owe you.

     

     

    You’re a lucky man.

  5. tonyrome on

    THE HUDDLE

     

     

    The way things stand at the moment I would tend to agree with you.

     

     

    Put the idea on tv on the weeks there’s no champions league and people will tune in looking for a footie fix. Share the money made in a more equal fashion and allow the clubs to start to afford to keep their best players and maybe buy some of the champions league squad players,improving the standard as you go.

     

     

    This could narrow the chasm that is now appearing in not just domestic but european football.

     

     

    I think the viewing figures would only rise and eventually create such a challenge that UEFA would have to look at changing it’s current policies of only assisting clubs from 5 countries. IMHO

     

     

    KEEP THE FAITH

  7. the_huddle on

    Turkeybhoy on 13th January 2018 10:14 pm

     

     

    Thats all he is saying and I have to say,he is right.He,like anyone who would put money into such a league,are all thinking the same

     

    Can you imagine any of those games at Celtic Park,not being close to selloutIf we were challenging.

     

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    I agree, the games would be sell outs, and the league format would maybe work to keep the interest up.

     

     

    But I can’t see where the TV money would come from, they’d sell the rights to someone but not for decent money.

  8. Turkeybhoy on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 13TH JANUARY 2018 10:11 PM

     

    Well,I’m shocked that the mods have seen fit to delete one of my posts again. And as usual,without a nod nor explanation.

     

     

    100 % agreement.The best poster on here,well,apart from me.Take it to the Court Of Human Rights.I will back till your nose bleeds.

  9. gordybhoy64 on

    BMCUW,

     

    i read a couple of posts you made about Macjay,

     

    you sure that you have had one deleted

  10. Turkeybhoy on

    THE_HUDDLE on 13TH JANUARY 2018 10:19 PM,

     

     

     

    Yes I know.But as my mate said,how many people in Scotland,Portugal,Holland,and the rest of the countries involved,would watch this more than the CL,where the have no teams to watch.Can you see where he is coming from.I can.After sitting here thinking about what he was saying.

     

    I have a feeling,with the audience,there could be a few sponsors and TV companies,who cant get the CL would be quite keen on it.As he said to me,”Its all about packaging”.

  11. Gutenberg on

    The Champions League, unfortunately, is still where it’s at. It’s our Holy Grail, financially.

     

    The format however will eventually turn people off, particularly those in The Netherlands, Portugal, Belgium etc.

     

    Only then will there be serious thought given to a fairer alternative.

  12. Turkeybhoy on

    Listen everybody.This is an American Entrepreneur giving his opinions on what we could do to get out of our league,and start making real money.He has some Celtic leanings,as forefathers went to the States,as immigrants.I have been great friends with him for more than 5 years,and he is a “Real business man””not”Rainjurs man”.

     

    Talking to him about Celtic,and giving him the full history,the posts I put on earlier,is what he came up with.

  13. Gutenberg on

    Turkeybhoy

     

    I’m glad you put that post on. It’s always good to hear other views, especially if they are not views from someone not steeped in our game.

     

    If nothing else it stimulates debate.

  14. Turkeybhoy on

    GUTENBERG on 13TH JANUARY 2018 10:32 PM

     

     

    Yes I agree,at the moment.But just think,if there were no teams from their country,chasing the championship which games do you think they would watch,with proper advertising,and TV..Eventually,it would become even more a closed shop in the CL,but with a lot less people watching.

     

    I thought his ideas were sound.

  16. Gordon64 on

    Hope you are all enjoying the feast of St Mungo who died on this day in 614 and still makes exceedingly good beer. Hh

  19. Gutenberg on

    I want to be unfazed re the Champions League but have to admit that I’m looking forward to Real- PSG and Chelski-Barca.

     

    Would love a tourney though that we could genuinely compete in.

  20. Turkeybhoy on

    GUTENBERG on 13TH JANUARY 2018 10:42 PM

     

    Turkeybhoy

     

     

     

     

    I’m glad you put that post on. It’s always good to hear other views, especially if they are not views from someone not steeped in our game.

     

     

     

     

    If nothing else it stimulates debate.

     

     

     

     

    You know,if it had been some drunk guy sitting next to me in the pub,I would never have posted this.This guy is not that.He has been listening to me going on for donkeys,and I thought he was only listening,not really paying attention,but I was wrong.His whole working life has been based on sports.How he made his money.

     

    I have to say,a much better idea,than the Atlantic league.Something we spoke about tonight,which he countered with

     

    “Whats more appealing to sponsors and TV companies,a league made up of “European Champions”,or a league of” Nordic Non Coms”

  21. Turkeybhoy on

    Anyway,goodnight to everyone.Sad tonight for my Nottingham mateswwho are all Forest fans.

     

    Bless them.

  22. Gutenberg on

    Turkeybhoy

     

    There’s too many big clubs now excluded, including ours.

     

    There will be a change eventually.

  23. fieldofdrams on

    Dixiedeans at 10.46pm

     

     

    What a post! I saw that show in 84, think it was in Lille, I lived in Brussels at the time, went with a good Tim mate, James Peter Kelly, lost touch and wish I hadn’t, a real good guy.

     

     

    What a show it was. Life-changing, never seen anything like it.

     

     

    Got me feeling very nostalgic now!

  27. tonyrome on

    MAGNIFICENTSEVEN

     

     

    Thanks for that. Some ammount of one touch goals in that.

     

     

    KEEP THE FAITH

  29. Greenpinata on

    My friends in Celtic,

     

     

    £35 + £1.50 for a Europa game is,imo outrageous.

     

     

    Reluctantly secured my ticket on the last day for ST holders.. ( Friday )

     

     

    Football without fans is nothing. Absolutely disgraceful pricing policy.

     

     

    HH.

  30. Celtarella on

    TurkeyBhoy

     

    Great idea!

     

    Then get this to make it even better and more financially feasible we could throw in

     

     

    Real Madrid

     

     

    Barcelona

     

     

    Juventus

     

     

    Bayern Munich

     

     

    Chelsea

     

     

    Liverpool

     

     

    Manchester Utd

     

     

    Inter Milan

     

     

    AC Milan

     

     

    Atletico Madrid

     

     

    The Americans would love it coz its awe aboot money.

     

    Oh wait a minute

  31. Celtarella on

    and dont forget Hamburg and PSV and Penarol and River Plate and Linfield and Cruz Azul and Aztec Camera

  32. danso_1888 on

    steven naismith wants to play in scotland again,not a word that he used to play for a now dead club not a word about the shamful tax evasion while there thats whats wrong with the game and they just dont get it.

  35. Jobo Baldie on

    Lowland League Table Update –

     

     

    (by the way, first time I’ve seen EKFC this season and the football was fantastic as we beat Gretna 2008* 4-nil – take a bow, manager Billy Stark!)

     

     

    1st – EKFC Played 21, points 47

     

    2nd – Spartans, Played 18, points 44

     

    3rd – BSC Glasgow Played 20, points 43

     

    4th – East Stirling Played 20, points 40

  36. Celtarella on

    danso_1888 on 14th January 2018 12:40 am

     

     

    Im not going to comment either except to say yes I agree with you the Celtic leaders are shameful.

  40. Celtarella on

    WITS

     

    Champions league prices this season:

     

    Rosenberg £25

     

    Astana £28

     

    PSG £38

     

    Bayern £38

     

    Anderlecht £38

     

     

    EL should be less

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