Celtic should appeal to Uefa to change processes, fudge doughnuts

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I’m not convinced that any meeting of minds between Celtic and Legia Warsaw to allow the latter to take the place of the former in the Champions League play-off round would be recognised by Uefa.  Having researched as thoroughly as possible, I’ve found no precedent for such an arrangement to be invoked.

It would, therefore, probably be safe for Celtic to take the high moral ground and acquiesce with Legia, but that would be a cheap shot at being generous, Celtic have no intentions of becoming involved, whether they have the opportunity or not.

The utter distress Legia are enduring because of an administrative oversight will cause untold damage.  The club have to try everything possible, including an appeal which invokes Willie Maley and Jock Stein, but they must find a clear path through Uefa, which does not appear to exist.

What Celtic can do, is appeal to Uefa to have processes changed, just as we did in 1970 when we profited from the toss of a coin.  Instead of clubs having the responsibility of checking available players, they could be issued with the same list the Uefa observer had on Wednesday, making this mistake less likely.

Current processes allow a minor infraction to cause disproportionate harm to a football club, and the tournament itself. Celtic should not hesitate in saying so.

Registration partially tightens tonight on player eligibility for our Champions League play-off round against NK Maribor.  After today, clubs can only add one player to their squad for these games.

While it is important to get players in ahead of Maribor, I’m not convinced the arrivals will be able to have a transformational impact.  It will largely be those already at Lennoxtown who will exorcise the demons of Murrayfield.

For what it’s worth, Maribor think they are absolute certainties to progress.  Planning to analyse them in detail tomorrow; I’m not betting against them.

I was mystified as to how relegated Hearts managed to win away from home in their first game as a lower league club but now I’ve heard Ally McCoist blame the off-field input of Charles Green it all makes sense.  How could any footballer reasonably expect to put in a shift with a former director speaking to the media some time earlier?

Delighted to hear the Daily Record swooped in to asset this as the reason for Newco Rangers demise yesterday.  It’s the same deflection as went on during Murray/Whyte/Green years all over again.  Why do they do this to themselves?

Let’s hope Ally sticks to his guns are clings to that contract like a fudge doughnut.

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  1. Joe Filippis Haircut

     

    20:45 on

     

    11 August, 2014

     

    An Dun.We still have the option still to bring in another player before the Maribor game. H.H.

     

     

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    My mistake. I thought our squad was now set for the Maribor ties. Hope we sign more players, I’ll be livid if we miss out on this second opportunity. HH

  2. Awe NAw

     

     

    “Yes they were all eventually sold but not until they were told thatt hey would be stating put for another year due to their respective clubs football concerns.

     

     

    Did that pass you buy or too difficult to contemplate ? ;-)”

     

     

    No, it was answered in full. Despite stating, publicly or privately, that these players would stay another year, they were sold.

     

     

    In exactly the same way that Celtic sold Forster (I don’t believe you can find one advert for sale from Celtic. As always, it is the agent who lets you know his client is looking to move).

     

     

    Now that I have repeated the comparison, analogy and equation, is it any less difficult for you to contemplate? :-)

  3. Snake Plissken on

    Tricoloured Ribbon

     

     

    Today is like a min-end of transfer window.

     

     

    Past experience has taught me to expect little.

  4. long haired yins man

     

     

    This time last season when we were desperatly looking for a striker, I posted about him, he scores goals and was available for a mill euros, he will be on less than a grand a week btw.

     

     

    HH

  5. Tricoloured Ribbon

     

    20:47 on

     

    11 August, 2014

     

    an dun,

     

    Sorry if ye thought I was being snappy with you in the early hours regarding McIlroy.

     

    Apologies pal.

     

     

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    Don’t be silly, nothing to apologise for, forums like this exist to voice opinion.

     

     

    TBH I could see where you were coming from, seeing that Stormont banner represents nothing only discrimination and second class citizenship.

  6. ….pfayr supports weeoscar

     

     

    20:45 on 11 August, 2014

     

    Supersutton

     

     

    What’s the rationale behind your last post

     

     

    Don’t want to be wantonly rude to you if you don’t deserve it

     

     

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    Nothing sinister intended.

     

     

    Apart from not knowing the stats (which I’ve just looked up) I was hoping they would prove that goal scoring and assists are not necessarily the defining stats. McStay is revered as a great player. Unfortunately I missed the majority of his career so I’m happy to accept the majority decision.

     

     

    The fact that Tonev isn’t a prolific goal scorer seems to make him a bad player automatically for a lot of people on here.

     

     

    Anyway the goal scoring stats that I found were that Paul McStay scored every 8.9 games that he STARTED (509 / 57).

     

     

    Tonev scores a goal every 6.5 games (71 / 11).

  7. Tricoloured Ribbon on

    bournesouprecipe

     

     

    20:51 on 11 August, 2014

     

    “Celtic were on their way to play Airdrie when Jimmy McGrory saw reserve goalkeeper Jimmy Goldie wearing his Celtic scarf on his way to the game. McGrory stopped the bus, brought Goldie on board and played him as a reward for supporting the team. Crazy stuff like that was going on. ”

     

     

    You think times are tough CSC.

     

    ….

     

    Was it not Peter Goldie bsr? Sorry if I’m wrong.

     

    Cheeky bassa if so.

     

    Teacher at St.Pat’s in Dumbarton

  8. the glorious balance sheet on

    SFTB-

     

     

    Yes that team was awful and despite a new manager in Tommy Burns coming in and a few new players arriving they continued to be awful in the following season 94/95 at Hampden.

     

     

    The problem with that team was a defence that was soft at the core in crunch games and a forward line that was hopelessly blunt. Similarities with the current team, as well as is the change of manager which I suspect will not make an immediate difference much like it didn`t back in 1994.

  9. joe filippis haircut

     

     

    20:53 on 11 August, 2014

     

    Both Mathews and Izzy are not good enough as defenders any team when getting a free kick or corner only need to put two six footers on them and we are in bother.Both are poor at stopping getting crosses into the box. H.H.

     

     

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    And yet both are part of the record breaking clean sheet defence. Strange.

  10. Parkheadcumsalford

     

     

    I find it sadder that as a Celtic supporter on a Celtic blog it’s becoming nigh on impossible to post a disagreement about some aspect of the club without being made to feel that you’re ‘anti Celtic’.

     

     

    That’s what it feels like to me.

  11. canamalar

     

     

    “you said those who argued against the “mob” were the voice of reason”

     

     

    Glad to clear it up. No, I did not say that. If i did you would be able to cut and paste it from my post but it is not there. It exists only in your interpretation.

     

     

    My semantics are important to me as yours are to you.

     

     

    I repeat what I want to say-

     

     

    Being in the majority does not make you right

     

    Being in the minority does not make you right

     

    I still believe I am right

     

    I am open to persuasion otherwise.

     

    There are such things as knee-jerk and ill considered opinions and the mob is a place where such things are often found.

     

     

    Oh! And..

     

     

    Celtic still need a better forward

  12. ....PFayr supports WeeOscar on

    Cfc did everything to keep FF we are told

     

     

    Suggests that they must not have needed the money ….

     

     

    Why not reinvest it then

     

     

     

    It’s the same BS we were given re Hooper’s sale…tried to keep him ….yada yada….didn’t need to sell …we brought Pukki in for half the fee

  13. Now we will have Forrest attacking down the right and Tonev attacking down the left, when they get to the bye line who are they aiming at in the middle??

  14. lennon's passion on

    thindimebhoy

     

     

    20:51 on 11 August, 2014

     

     

    When did we become judge and jury.

     

     

    When you pay your dues your entitled to your say. Saidly the Celtic family don’t want to pay anymore. Would we need to downsize as much if there was 60000 at every home game.

  15. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Super Sutton. Our players tend to get there limitations exposed more in European games just watch the two of them in the upcoming European games I think it will shock you. H.H.

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    Last Chance Tonight To See Program..

     

     

    On BBC I-player…..

     

     

    About The History Of Glasgow’s Duke Street…..

     

     

    A Heart-Warming Story…

     

     

    Charting How The Honest, Ordinary Folk Of Bathgate Street…

     

     

    With Not A ‘Leftie’ In Sight

     

     

    Prevailed Over Pat Lally/GCC….

     

     

    Who Wanted To BullDoze Their Fine Georgian Sandstone Terraces….

     

     

    To Make Way For A Soulless ‘Greater EasterHoose’

     

     

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    Whoever Knew That Dennistoun…

     

     

    Was Intended To Be The *Ru’Glen*..

     

     

    Of The East-End..?

     

     

    God Bless John Butterly OBE

     

     

     

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04ck993/ad/the-secret-history-of-our-streets-series-2-2-duke-street-glasgow

     

     

    (Sixty Minutes)

     

     

     

     

     

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  17. Mullet & Co 2

     

     

    Craig Gordon will make up any shortfall next year if he stays injury free

     

    Also i think Zaluska will be on his way soon

  18. bournesouprecipe on

    Tricoloured

     

     

    Cheers No idea – twas a cut and paste job.

     

     

    “Aye ye think it’s bad the noo but I remember son, when we used to throw pennies into the directors box ”

     

     

    You know the kind of guff you get on modern rubbish transfer deadline days.

  19. Tricoloured Ribbon on

    Gary,

     

    Griffiths? Yeah? Get the guy on and he will score goals.

     

    Scored a pile of goals for Hibs in a pathetic team.

  20. lennon's passion on

    martim1980

     

     

    And as for calling me a Hun would wager anything I’ve been to more Celtic games than you in the last 20 years.

  21. TET

     

     

    Ronny seems to like wingers. We have nobody (that I’m aware of) who attacks the ball when it’s put into the penalty box. How many of our current crop of strikers regularly score from headers?

     

     

    I don’t know his scoring stats but I’ve seen enough of May to know that he attacks the ball in dangerous areas.

     

     

    I really think we’ve missed out.

  22. TET,

     

     

    I guess it’s easy to sit here and offer up names but there are definitely strikers out there, who are consistently banging in goals for their current clubs (unlike some of the ones we’ve signed recently)

     

     

    I watch a bit of Croatian football and Andrej Kramaric is one. Top scorer in the league last year for his club Rijeka. They play in front of less than 10,000. Kramaric is young, had been at Dinamo Zagreb for years before falling out with the coach last summer and moving. Scored a wonder goal for Rijeka against Lyon in Champions League qualifier last year.

     

     

    Wouldn’t expect the transfer fee or wages would be out of our reach.

  23. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    Platitudes, cliches, explanations, spin, excuses. They all become one big mass of BS when you are in mob mood and looking to lynch the first guy that opens his mouth to try to reason.

  24. Tricoloured Ribbon on

    BSR,

     

    Frank and Peter Goldie were teachers in St Pat’s and both were arrogant, horrible people.

     

    I’m fairly certain it is the same Goldie.

  25. canamalar

     

     

    “Was Scottish football not far better and more competitive then ?”

     

     

    When?? the 90s??

     

     

     

     

    HT

     

     

    “I find it sadder that as a Celtic supporter on a Celtic blog it’s becoming nigh on impossible to post a disagreement about some aspect of the club without being made to feel that you’re ‘anti Celtic’.

     

     

    That’s what it feels like to me.”

     

     

    Sorry you feel that way. A wee objective exercise would be to count up the number of posters who are critical of how Celtic operate and compare them with the number you feel are defending Celtic against the criticisms. I don’t think the numbers would show the critics to be in the minority, especially this week as there was much to be genuinely unhappy about.

     

     

    Remember to count the night shift posters though.

  26. ....PFayr supports WeeOscar on

    HT

     

     

    Playing with wingers when we have no decent CF to attack the crosses is a waste of time

  27. tricoloured ribbon

     

     

    21:03 on 11 August, 2014

     

     

    It’s clear that won’t happen. He’s behind Stokes & Pukki for the striker spot. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s not a Celtic player by end of the month.

  28. skyisalandfill on

    HT

     

     

    I have to agree with you re Srevie May.

     

     

    Any further word on the USA/Icelandic guy Johannson?

     

     

    Naw. Thought not.

     

     

    HH

  29. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    SFTB

     

     

    No I still think you fail to understand that SAF, Brendan Rodgers, Pepe and Heynkes before him, all their decisions came first and foremost within their clubs policy. These clubs were prepared to keep an unhappy player (all three did for at least another season) and were willing to contemplate getting less for them and to not sell them. The onus was with first with the manager and then the club and then the player. There was no scare stories about … what if he gets injured, or you cannot keep an unhappy player. Surely Jock Steins principles should not be so easily abandoned by our present commercial leaders. Fraser Forster should not have been sold until after the Maribor game that particulayr quandry being not such a ludicrous statistical outlier as the three world superstars (top ten in the world ?) methinks

     

     

    Maybe Gary Hooper, Victor Wanyama, Ki, Mc Geady, Forster, Ledley, Samaras and Celtic could all have benefited from a less fixated stance towards our annual returns.

     

     

    HH

     

    HH

     

     

    BTW anyone using such statistical outliers to prove a point is

  30. tallybhoy

     

     

    20:03 on 11 August, 2014

     

     

    He proberly read the comments on here and thought what have I done HH

  31. skyisalandfill

     

     

    I used to have an Opel Mantra coupe.

     

     

    Green it were.

     

     

     

     

    Used to have an Opel Kadett

     

     

    Light blue it was

     

     

    Driving back from Slaine Castle after a gig with the Rolling Stones we passed through Limerick City and the cops stopped us.

     

     

    Don’t you think yer a bit overloaded there

     

     

    Aye a wee bit sur officer

     

     

    So about 5 of the occupants got out to leave five still in

     

     

    Drove 20 yards up the road and everyone got back on board. Looking back in the side mirror the Garda was shaking his head

     

     

    Everyone got off in Cobh Co Cork

     

     

    The ole country nothing like it back then

     

     

    HH