Celtic should appeal to Uefa to change processes, fudge doughnuts

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I’m not convinced that any meeting of minds between Celtic and Legia Warsaw to allow the latter to take the place of the former in the Champions League play-off round would be recognised by Uefa.  Having researched as thoroughly as possible, I’ve found no precedent for such an arrangement to be invoked.

It would, therefore, probably be safe for Celtic to take the high moral ground and acquiesce with Legia, but that would be a cheap shot at being generous, Celtic have no intentions of becoming involved, whether they have the opportunity or not.

The utter distress Legia are enduring because of an administrative oversight will cause untold damage.  The club have to try everything possible, including an appeal which invokes Willie Maley and Jock Stein, but they must find a clear path through Uefa, which does not appear to exist.

What Celtic can do, is appeal to Uefa to have processes changed, just as we did in 1970 when we profited from the toss of a coin.  Instead of clubs having the responsibility of checking available players, they could be issued with the same list the Uefa observer had on Wednesday, making this mistake less likely.

Current processes allow a minor infraction to cause disproportionate harm to a football club, and the tournament itself. Celtic should not hesitate in saying so.

Registration partially tightens tonight on player eligibility for our Champions League play-off round against NK Maribor.  After today, clubs can only add one player to their squad for these games.

While it is important to get players in ahead of Maribor, I’m not convinced the arrivals will be able to have a transformational impact.  It will largely be those already at Lennoxtown who will exorcise the demons of Murrayfield.

For what it’s worth, Maribor think they are absolute certainties to progress.  Planning to analyse them in detail tomorrow; I’m not betting against them.

I was mystified as to how relegated Hearts managed to win away from home in their first game as a lower league club but now I’ve heard Ally McCoist blame the off-field input of Charles Green it all makes sense.  How could any footballer reasonably expect to put in a shift with a former director speaking to the media some time earlier?

Delighted to hear the Daily Record swooped in to asset this as the reason for Newco Rangers demise yesterday.  It’s the same deflection as went on during Murray/Whyte/Green years all over again.  Why do they do this to themselves?

Let’s hope Ally sticks to his guns are clings to that contract like a fudge doughnut.

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  1. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire

     

     

    Can someone remind me about the great signings we made when we qualified for the CL last season ?

     

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    Can anyone remind me the last time we made a great signing? ie someone we knew would be great before he signed

  2. “yet there are still plenty saying the board are playing a blinder,”

     

     

    Nclhe,

     

     

    Wrong.

     

     

    There are some saying the board can’t do more, some saying the board should do more and then there’s the usual suspects who have panic attacks when they haven’t bad mouthed the board in the last 5 minutes.

  3. setting free the bears for Res. 12 & Oscar Knox but saying no to CQN racists

     

     

     

     

    18:39 on

     

     

    11 August, 2014

     

     

    Sense.

  4. the glorious balance sheet on

    Captain Beefheart 20:06-

     

     

    You weren`t the only one who fancied Celtic to beat Legia. The bookies did as well.

     

     

    Ladbrokes had Celtic as 8/13 favourites to win over the 2 legs before a ball was kicked.

     

     

    They had Legia as 5/1 shots to win on the night in Edinburgh before the 2nd leg.

     

     

    I recall a poster on here saying that people he knew were piling into odds of Legia to win with a 1 goal handicap at odds of 14/1 before the 2nd leg.

     

     

    The bookies rarely get it wrong but it seems they have Celtic as favourites to beat Maribor too.

  5. More than half of this squad have just joined Rayo this year, all for free, some on loan, they are paying them circa 1K per week.

     

     

    This team IMO would wipe the floor with the current Celtic team.

     

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayo_Vallecano

     

     

    We are paying all of Tonev’s 700K by all accounts.

     

     

    Value for money, who knows, but we are not getting value for money with our present squad and spend on wages.

     

     

    Just hark back to a week ago, we were torn apart by a team who spend a fraction of what our spend is.

     

     

    Who is getting this right ?????????

     

     

    HH

  6. big wavy

     

     

    20:09 on 11 August, 2014

     

    HamiltonTim

     

     

    We need strikers like the desert needs the rain…

     

     

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    We scored once over two legs against Legia.

     

     

    We need a goal scorer.

  7. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    SFTB,

     

    Repeat the mantra, we need to spend into the grave to compete, rubbish.

  8. canamalar

     

     

    “So when everyone see’s the same crap and calls it for what it is, it’s mob rule, hardly, next you’ll be telling us it wasn’t so bad”

     

     

    Funnily enough, what I see is that the people who were telling us that WGS was downsizing and we were the worst ever in 30 years, and the people who were telling us that Neil Lennon’s team were the worst ever in 30 years (also) are now benchmarking those periods as a golden era compared to this.

     

     

    Wait long enough and even bell-bottoms might come back in fashion.

     

     

    P.S. I have never called myself The Voice of Reason, it is a description that would be laughed at by most who know me far less those that don’t. we DO get knee jerk reactions and we do get lighthouse thinking. The trick, as always, is to try and discriminate between short term issues and long term problems. One day we will genuinely have the worst team in 30 years. Well somebody has to be the worst. So long as I retain memories of Muggleton, Biggins, Holt and Whittle, I will know we are not at rock bottom yet.

  9. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire

     

    malarkey,

     

    Utter tosh, prove it

     

     

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    I’m not sure what you want me to prove.

     

     

    Then again I can offer arguments, reasoning, conjecture.. but I don’t think anyone here can prove any of the opinions offered.

  10. the glorious balance sheet on

    PF Ayr 2019:-

     

     

    Keevins back at Celtic Park.

     

     

    Maybe we are going to give him a game up front next Saturday?

  11. Beamishismypint on

    Two legged play off to earn £15 million and we loan sign a guy with no assists and no goals in 22 appearances for Villa. Sorry I expect too much!

  12. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    Geordie…,

     

    And there’s plenty still saying the board are playing a blinder whether you deny it or no.

  13. owen 20:13.

     

     

    Meanwhile in a secret room beneath Celtic Park Dermot Desmond, Peter Lawwell and the rest of the board of directors chant arcane incantations to reanimate the corpse of rangers before an idol formed from the melted down Seville money.

     

     

     

     

    It would be advantageous to know what incarnations the zombies will need to reincarnate their corpse to anything like its former self

     

     

    Whatever they do it will be no match for the unseen diabolical fenian hand

     

     

    HH

  14. HT

     

     

    We need to make the chances first and foremost.

     

     

    We need a middy who can see the pass that kills, we don’t have him.

     

     

    Agreed we need a striker, but imo, we need to sort the mid first, win the mid, win the game.

     

     

    HH

  15. normanstreet49 on

    Just logged in and read Paul’s article.

     

    Celtic should say absolutely hee haw to Eufa.

     

    This is nothing to do with Celtic.

     

    We start mouthing off about the “rules” we’ll will be accused by Legia and the good old SMSM of bringing the game into disrepute.

     

    It’s simple, it’s their problem.

     

    Forget all this shite and prepare better for Maribor.

     

    The rules are simple enough, no need to change anything. Imho…..

     

    HH…..

  16. Greeninbingley on

    Parkheadcumsalford

     

    20:19 on

     

    11 August, 2014

     

    Sad that CQN has descended to what I imagine the phone-ins are like.

     

     

     

     

    That’s exactly what I was thinking.

  17. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    Malarkey…,

     

    Prove the money is still being spent, you have no idea how much those players are being paid, a pittance for all you know and from the discussions on here its more likely to be a pittance than a wage comparable to the English championship because we can’t afford to compete with the English championship we are constantly told.

  18. Beamish

     

     

    Neil Lennon was trounced in his initial European games, Gordon Strachan had Artmedia, shudders, and Martin o’Neill struggled in Europe. Tony Mowbray got us an away win in Europe funny old game football.

     

     

    Ronnie Delia has managed in Norway and won their top division

  19. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    SFTB

     

     

    The three superstars you mentioned and therefore hardly a legitimate comparison. Were all made to stay with their clubs after demanding moves. Man U. Liverpool and Bayern all put their foot down. Sending out the message that they are in control. We are too driven by annual forecasts. I wonder why Mmmmmm……

     

     

    HH

  20. Snake Plissken on

    Aston Villa FC ‏@AVFCOfficial 2m

     

    Aleksandar Tonev has joined @CelticFC on a season-long loan deal. #AVFC

  21. bournesouprecipe

     

     

    Porto have received 700 million Euros on transfers out in the last ten years.

     

     

     

     

    For sure with access to some of the best players in Brazil encouraged by their government via no visa problems

     

     

    If we say Aye we could do the same although the weather would need a tweak or 2

     

     

    No this is not an independence post csc

     

     

    HH

  22. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    SFTB,

     

    I never called you the voice of reason either, I do question where you get the idea that anyone who voices their dissent whether that is echoed by the majority, is not the voice of reason which is what you implied. As apparently only those arguing against the majority can be considered the voice of reason.

  23. Posted too soon.

     

     

    So is by no means a dud, how many on here have managed at that level. We can all rant and rage about the abysmal performance against Legia but this is madness condemning s guy after less than 2 months in charge.

  24. ....PFayr supports WeeOscar on

    I thought we were lightweight in our games against Legia….Tonev looks like another slight player

     

     

    I’m afraid I just can’t see this type of player performing well in the SPL during the winter months

  25. SFTB

     

     

    What I cannot understand about the case you present is what makes it so difficult to understand.

     

     

    It also clears the way to enjoy what is there and not let what is not have such a negative effect.

     

     

    Wear slippers or carpet the world.

  26. malarkey

     

     

    20:11 on 11 August, 2014

     

    hamiltontim – yes its unreasonable of us to attract a top striker without guaranteeing them CL football.

     

     

    If we got past Maribor then I think we need to admit our striker buying strategy of the past few years has failed – and push the boat out before CL.

     

     

    If we don’t get past Maribor then I’m not sure who will want to come play for us.

     

     

    I’m a sad happy clapper.

     

     

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    I never mentioned a ‘top class striker’.

     

     

    I’ve long been an advocate of buying what it says on the tin.

     

     

    We need a goal scorer, I’d have signed May from St Johnstone, it’s hardly breaking the bank.