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  8. !!Bada Bing!! on

    CELTIC could end their right-back hunt by snapping up FC Porto’s Fernando Fonseca.

     

     

    Brendan Rodgers is desperate to land a long-term replacement for Mikael Lustig this month.Fonseca, 21, is the latest right-back to emerge on Celtic’s radar as they scour Europe.

     

     

    Portuguese sources last night confirmed Porto would be open to doing business with the Hoops.

     

     

    The Portugal under-21 cap was close to joining Juventus for £2million in the summer but has since fallen out of the picture.

     

     

    Fonseca, who had a loan spell at Estoril last season, has made just three appearances for the Porto B side this term.

  9. Mahe the Madman on

    Not the Fonse ! Could be Happy Days though ;)

     

     

    Curled up ” winkler ” pickers. Couldn’t resist !

  10. Fool Time Whistle on

    I’d like someone to explain the justification for sectarian or other non Celtic related songs & chants at Celtic Park. Anything derogatory about someone’s religion, skin colour, orientation – that sort of thing.

     

     

    I know some like to do it & I admit that in my youth I sang songs to be part of the lads on the bus.

     

    But I really WAS stupid then & had no guidance from anyone. My Dad wasn’t a Celt & I had no brothers, cousins or uncles that would keep me right. I just went on the supporters bus with some guys from school.

     

     

    No one tried to explain why I shouldn’t do it back then, no one, no auld guy even. Mostly it was Sean South or the Soldiers Song that we belted out. In those days the notion of a club open to all was just that – a notion that some ascribed to but few had even heard about.

     

     

    In the summer of 2007, I attended a Celtic v Chivas game in New York and afterwards got a lift back to Jack Dempseys Bar in the Manhattan Supporters Bus (I think) for a drink and some crack.

     

     

    It was the longest 40 minute bus journey because of the absolute bitter, horrible & vile stuff being sung by 6 lads at the back of the bus. Stuff about Mountbatten that was truly awful & other desperately sick stuff that was worse. There were folk on the bus who were disgusted, fathers with their children who shook their head. older folk dressed in their Sunday best to see the Celts just one more time who just lowered their heads in shame.

     

     

    I am ashamed to say I said nothing. Not a word. But I felt as they did. Embarrassment & shame. Shame both at what was being sung but also shame that I chose to do nothing about it. I justifed it by telling myself I was a guest on their bus, it wasn’t my place, they were just young boys & didn’t know anything etc etc.

     

     

    Now if I’d said anything I may well have been invited to leave the bus – but on reflection I would have had few regrets once I got back to my hotel that night. To this day though – I regret not speaking to those lads.

     

    They may/probably would have ignored me but…

     

     

    The truth is that if you have no line in the sand for standards then you have nothing at all.

     

     

    Celtic have drawn a line & set us the standard by promoting the club as open to all – regardless of race, creed, colour or orientation. We expect guests at Celtic Park to behave & conform to decent standards of behaviour etc – I know that on here we name & shame fans from any club that fall below that standard.

     

    But we too have a standard & I would always want is to comply with that as much as is possible.

     

    We pride ourselves in being great fans, the best fans even & very often the best behaved fans when we go abroad. Usually.

     

     

    So why should we let our standards drop at home when we claim to welcome all to the ground?

     

    Politics? Not for me. Even though we all support Celtic, I know that there will be Labour, Tory, SNP, Liberal, Communist & maybe some other fringe parties represented amongst the crowd at every game. Some people may not vote at all or have no interest in it all. Even within those mainstream parties there’ll be factions & allegiances that want to take the same party in different directions.

     

    Any politically motivated song at Celtic Park will likely only appeal to a minority & even some of those would prefer it not to be sung at the ground.

     

     

    Religion? Haven’t we been here so many times before. Our club has always welcomed non Catholics as players & since 1965 as manager or coach. In this age where marriage is not so important, where there are fewer objections to couples from different religions or cultures being together, the religious affiliation of Celtic fans is broader than it’s ever been. The Muslim, Hindi. Sikh religions are all represented in Season Books at Celtic Park. Do we mean to gve offence when we sing certain songs – probably if we are playing the youngest club in the league, but otherwise it’s usually referees who get pelters. Even there, for me, they should get no religious or sectarian stuff.

     

     

    We cannot be open to all as club and yet justify or accept sectarian songs or chants – merely because we’ve sung them for years, or because some fans honestly believe that letting the people sing really means letting them sing anything they want no matter the content.

     

     

    There is a line and a standard that we should hold both ourselves and the opposition fans to.

     

    When you make excuses for hateful bile in songs then you have crossed that line & you have no moral grounds to object to anything any other set of fans sing about Celtic or Celtic fans.

     

     

    It doesn’t make us prudes or soft or gutless or pushovers. It just means that we say what we mean & mean what we say. You are welcome at our club whatever your religion, race, skin colour, orientation or politial beliefs. It’s as simple as that. Provided you stick to the correct standards.

     

     

    I will disagree with many others about politics, maybe orienation or even racial matters – but at Celtic Park the deal is that my own personal views on all these things are less important than watching Celtic win games.

     

     

    I’m proud that my club strive to be better & more inclusive, so I support that concept.

     

     

    There are as many different types of Tims as there are variations of fingerprints, and that is how it should be, but we need to have some core values in common to actually all be Tims.

     

     

    For me the acceptance of all at Celtic is one such common value.

     

     

    I don’t get to go as often as I used to, but I am still a season ticket man.

     

     

    I also might sing a tune or two in private that I won’t sing at the ground.

     

     

    HH

  12. Celtic please listen on

    Fooltimewhistle, outstanding post.

     

     

    Love a chant & yes i have sung no protestants at all, weird me having been christened one. Not a man or family for religion, each to there own. Hate huns & regularly spew my venom at the orange Masonic mibs & call into question there parentage to boot. Gascoigne, Goram,Novo,Amoruso, Mc sleakit , Durrant,Ferguson, awe three of them, Ricksen, John Brown, gave them all the same. Now a just laugh at the deluded zombies players or smile knowingly at the deid clubs fans i encounter, as they know i would destroy the lies they hang onto. I know my onions with football & those who knew me pre Sevco don’t go there & avoid football chat funnily since 2012. Greatest football experience for me was as i entered the Stadio Olympico Seville i shed a tear, firstly for my wee granda who took me to paradise (Catholic) regularly as a child & passed when i was eight, a great man. Mostly it was the realisation of a dream, no an absolute belief i would see Celtic in a European final, many laughed & thought i was nuts especially through the late 80’s 90’s but i knew our day would come. HH goodnight & may your god or deity go with you ?

  13. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    FOOL TIME WHISTLE on 21ST JANUARY 2019 12:42 AM

     

     

     

    WESTCRAIGS on 21ST JANUARY 2019 1:45 AM

     

    CELTIC PLEASE LISTEN on 21ST JANUARY 2019 2:12 AM

     

     

    Please add my congratulations to the above named .

     

     

     

    There should be only one criterion for a Celtic supporter.

     

    Is what I am singing / saying / doing in the interests of Glasgow Celtic.

  14. petec on

    St Mirren Wednesday – To say I’m excited about seeing how we go about that game would be an understatement.

     

     

    Timothy you ain’t heard nothing yet!!!!!

     

     

    Theres a Title challenge on Bhoys – and you know Sevco will get Every possible help.

     

     

    I’ll be off to work after the game – I’m hoping Celtic will have moved ahead with a Monumental performance that Takes the Breath away. Hearing the jibber jabber about Timothy and Odsonne just hEightTens my anticipation.

     

     

    Make a Fitba statement Celtic, again.

  15. petec on

    It will be something else the reception George gets at Celtic Park – Nothing quite like petec going radio rental as Timo put that ball in the net. Lightning and a truly Magical moment. I hope the President advises his Son to stay 1 more year @ Celtic. Signs are good. Blood Moon noo.

  16. petec on

    I don’t think Timothy quite knows how much he has stirred up the Massive.

     

     

    Celtic Songs all the way in noo to get the eight – Songs the players will respond to – Celtic have the very best Songbook out there. This might just be .01% of an influence, I don’t care – Just help those playing by inspirational sonics to them.

     

     

    There are rebel songs that, IMO, work for the players, that have no idea.

     

     

    I’d always have Grace sung now.

  19. petec on

    Sunshine on Leith,

     

     

    What a Tune.

     

     

    Etched on my Mind.

     

     

    Cheers Stubbsy Bhoy.

     

     

    How many Years? ;))

     

     

    SAD the Hun scum – Sad so they are.

     

     

    macjay1,

     

     

    Nigel distances himself from the UKIP party – I think the guy is genuine, I have no idea really.

     

     

     

    I think Donald Trump is being as genuine as he can be. I”m likely wrong, I just Know everyones a sinner and don’t get all oot there.

     

     

     

    Believe in the Lord Almighty and the New Testament.

     

     

    If you Believe – go and pick any Verse, preferably Chapter and be amazed how it relates to right here and right now.

     

     

    Loving it

  23. 'GG on

    NFL on CQN

     

    What a day. Rams and Patriots advance to Super Bowl after both won in OT.

     

    In a compelling 4Q in Arrowhead, Brady had possession on his own 35 with just under 2 minutes left and trailing 28-24.

     

    The 40 year old drove the Pats downfield, converting three third and long plays, eventually forcing in a 4 yard converted TD run to take a three point lead with 32 seconds remaining.

     

    Kansas QB, Patrick Mahomes needed only 24 of those seconds to take the Chiefs into field goal range and tie the game at 31-31.

     

    Pats called heads at the toss up to receive in OT and Brady once more belied his age to drive his side against a tired Chiefs defence to score the winning TD.

     

    Real drama and not a little skill on show.

  24. David66 on

    Good morning CQN from a freezing Garngad

     

     

    Some songs do us more harm than good.

     

    We all used to sing them, I had mates that were Protestants when growing up, yet never missed a Celtic game and they sung them.

     

    No place then no place now.

     

     

    I love the idea/reality that we are a club open to all.

     

    It makes me proud.

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    D. :)

  25. gorbalstam on

    In section 110 every home game and if there are sectarian add ons being chanted/sung, it’s not coming from the GB. Not saying they aren’t sung, but I’m not hearing it.

  26. Chairbhoy on

    Good Morning All… Good draw in the Cup, St Johnstone will make a game of it but home advantage should be enough…

     

     

    AULDHEID @ 1:25 PM,

     

     

    The message coming from Celtic is that none of the other clubs nor UEFA are interested in pursuing Res12 but there is a process in train ie JPDT and that is under question.

     

     

    Whilst what happened in 2011 can be treated by clubs and UEFA as yesterday’s news, its currency lies in what took place then.

     

     

    Unless SFA can produce some contrary evidence, what is available and usable under football rules to make it so, tells us that RFC obtained the licence in 2011 on false pretences.

     

     

    Some of the folk involved are still there and a leopard, especially one from the Mulk with its lair in South Africa, doesn’t change its spots.

     

     

    The principles at stake driving Res12 will never go away, that is the nature of principles but if anything were to happen inside football it will only happen when the Celtic family (which includes the Board) say “Enough” and why. Silence will have had its day.

     

     

    It is not just Celtic who might have to pay the cost of the insane TRFC business model, league positions bring cash rewards so all clubs below TRFC at the finish will have felt the consequences of the TRFC business model but the Directors of those clubs appear to care not a jot.

     

     

    What happens if, in spite of all the help from Hampden that makes every decision on and off the park go their way, TRFC, face administration again?

     

     

    Is it more rinse and repeat or are clubs going to back a form of domestic FFP where external licensor are appointed? I think from memory UEFA allow this for FFP?

     

     

    What if administration led to liquidation? Would supporters of all clubs accept rinse and repeat again?

     

     

    The folk running Scottish football and that includes Celtic are so far not up to the task of introducing honesty and restoring trust. That is self evident or it would have happened by now.

     

     

    Res12 isn’t over yet, but if it ends without the need for reform to be accepted, then all tickets sold to supporters of all clubs should carry a ” buyer beware” warning saying:

     

     

    ” In purchasing this ticket you are accepting that the result of the games you will be paying to watch will not solely be determined under the published rules but an interpretation of them that fits the desired outcome”

     

     

    If I were Celtic I would make domestic financial fair play a condition of participating in Scottish football.

     

     

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    Very interesting comments, of course I’ve always advocated that the Rangers issues should not be allowed to descend into some old firm scenario and it had to be the SFA and the Club collective that were making the calls, so from that respect I can see Celtic’s position on the surrounding issues.

     

     

    The thing is, it quickly became obvious there was no appetite to deal with Rangers in a proper and judicious manner. This for me is where Res12 was different, it was an issue raised by Celtic shareholders so was not a Club initiative. There was a smoking gun, a clear breach that needed addressing and it linked back to Rangers executives before the time of the ‘scapegoat.

     

     

    As you say leopards don’t change their spots and allowing Sevco Rangers to carry on regardless has been a big mistake…

     

     

    Where are we now, all these years later, discussing financial doping and match officials “honest mistakes”

     

     

    As you say, there is a JPDT ongoing(?) A file must have been on the new compliance officers desk on her arrival, yet six months later, nothing, quelle surprise!?

     

     

    But kudos to you and the others, Res12 was great opportunity to do the right thing.

     

     

    As far as caveat emptor is concerned, what can I say? As a kid and a big Mohammed Ali fan, it broke my heart when my Dad told me how rigged boxing was, of course Ali was true to himself and went up in my estimation but as far as the sport went… no, not for me.

     

     

    Now it looks like soccer is going the same way. And Celtic like Ali, had an opportunity to be a differentiator. It failed but all is not losts, as you say stand up for FFP – then proper controls by the Governing bodies and proper accountability by match officials.

     

     

    Because another Ibrox insolvency event and the games a bogey…

     

     

    Hail Hail

  27. Jobo Baldie on

    Good morning, friends, from a dry, cold, frosty East Kilbrde.

     

    Fool Time Whistle on last page @ 12.42am. A very good post, thank you.

  32. Greenpinata on

    FOOL TIME WHISTLE on 21ST JANUARY 2019 12:42 AM

     

     

    Thank you for taking the time to eloquently put into words what many of us feel.

     

    I sit in 441and have heard the ” add ons” from the back creeping back into our songbook.

     

     

    HH.

  33. setting free the bears for Res. 12 & Oscar Knox on

    Because of a family event I was hosting, I missed the Airdrie game at the weekend so I cannot comment on the singing.

     

     

    However, I have not heard the “soon there’ll be no protestants ” line sung en masse anywhere at CP. I have heard, very occasionally, that line being sung by drunks on the way to a game and, I dare say, some isolated individuals may have mumbled it while the rest of us, including the Green Brigade, have sung the proper version.

     

     

    As I was not there, perhaps there was an orchestrated version by some group at the Airdrie game and, if so, it merits condemnation.

     

     

    But, I fear , we are going a wee bit OTT about one song at one match unless we are going to name the other songs that were sung that were objectionable or against the “our club welcomes all” ethos.

     

     

    Go on home British Soldiers is not the Lee Rigby song.

     

     

    Sean South is no equivalent to the Famine Song or even even Derry’s Walls.

     

     

    Now, I believe the rebs singing should be reduced. There are too many times where it is wall-to-wall rebs AND, they become more concentrated at times when we are at 0:0 and bored with play or when we play what we perceive to be enemy clubs like Sevco and Airdrie and Hearts. The reb singing has, paradoxically, become more prevalent, the further on we are in the Peace Process in the Occupied Six. There can be few justifications for that beyond a desire to provoke the opposition fans, a sentiment we often see reciprocated (and that won’t go away if we drop or reduce the rebs). The most bizarre representation of our desire to re-visit the War songs is going to away grounds and hearing our largely-pro-Scottish -Independence choir inform the rest of Scotland that “The IRA will set them free”.

     

     

    I don’t think the IRA have ever made a statement on the merits of Scottish (or Mongolian) Independence.

     

     

    As a non-singer, with a voice like a wolf being tasered, I can do little to influence the choice of songs but, if we are trying to influence it through words on a blog, then I think we should be measured and avoid any representation that looks like “one side’s as bad as the other”, or “it was alright for me in the 70’s and 80’s but not for you now” or “All republican songs are bad”. Those are positions which will not convince anyone.

     

     

    My view is that a reduction of the rebs would be welcomed so that, if things worsen in the 6 counties (and they might if the Brexiteers interfere with the backstop obligations) then we might want people to notice that we will represent that community in song once again when it is needed,

     

     

    Aff to work now

  34. Shuggiebhoy67 on

    Threesy,

     

    The ba` the boot and the goalie, were to be found in cobbles of Yate Street in Barrowfield,,my granny lived on that street at the junction with mountblue st.its where my Granda taught me about Cellick and how not to waste time on religion,wise man! always irreverent never irrelevant.

     

    HH

  35. traditionalist88 on

    Fool Time Whistle

     

     

    Lets ditch the Fields of Athenry, the green and white hoops and the tricolour too, sure why not.

     

     

    FYI many of our foreign fans love the songs we sing including the rebel songs, minus any stupid add-ons.

     

     

    Welcome to CQN btw.

  36. Turkeybhoy on

    Have to say,cant really be assed with the majority of the Rebel songs now,but if I had been at the game on Saturday,I would probably have joined in.Faced with bigots,belting out their bitterness,I know I would have.Its the way most of us are.Saturday,to me,seemed no different than a scum game,considering who filled the scum section.Sometimes it has to be dished back out by some fans.They will find no argument from me,but only when needs must.

     

    There are a few on here who, for whatever reason,like to cast blame on the GB for any misdemeanour.

  37. 50 shades of green on

    Awe ffs a nurra song debate…..

     

     

    Seems to me that the vast majority of our songs are fine, but the “add ons ” urnay….

     

     

    But its awrite people have posted that they urnay happy so that will be them finished ?

  38. 50 shades of green on

    Been going to Celtic park since 1965(sober most of the time ) and I’ve never heard of the ” baw n boot cobblestones “. Interesting wee story about them, cheers.

  40. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Has Bayo got his work permit yet ? or is this another cadette situation ? come on you Bhoys in green.H.H.

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