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  1. Saint Stivs on

    and on to the football experience of yesterday.

     

     

    Reading back CQN last night, I really did wonder if I had been at a different game than that commented on here.

     

     

    There was not thousands of empty seats, that is just stupid. There was no nervous hesitant crowd, There was no library like atmosphere.

     

     

    The supporters there, for the main support, willing the team on, taking a lead from the brigaders, with the jubgke bhoys group in fine coice up next to the jam tarters.

     

     

    Once our equaliser went in, the football flowed, it really was a joy to watch. Jota to Maeda goal was met with such a roar to match any other time.

     

     

    The noise cranked up and up, each chance being met with anticipation and joined up collective willingness to get the bhoys over the line., literally for the 2nd goal.

     

     

    The 2nd half was apummeling, wave after wave of playing the glasgow celtic way.

     

     

    from the 3rd goal, there was 20 minutes of non stop singing, my videos showing scenes that were quite exceptional and emotional, the call response was something special, glasgow is indeed green and white.

     

    wee jamesie and gio seemed especially desperate to contribute and make a mark which they did. the combination lay back from the wee man met with a clinical finish, and that was that.

     

     

    At the end, there was not a mass exodus, sure some leave, but easily 40000 still in the ground 10 minutes after the whistle,

     

     

    I do wonder what purpose does it serve to make these in game comments, they are unqualified michief making, what joy does anyone get from it ? I am not talking about people from abroad, i am talking about posters supposedly in scotland but dont make an effort to be there,

     

     

    I suppose to really appreciate what is special about that team, and that performance, and our support, well i think you really need to be there.

  2. 2-0

     

     

    Focus turns to Tannadice and a great night for the fans lucky enough to be there.

     

     

    Will be taking a half day to see it live.

  3. The Blogger Formerly Known As GM on

    Riddle me this, had to pop out in the car for 10 minutes and the radio was tuned to Sportsound, who are banned from covering hun games. Instead, they had Willie Miller and a bunch of ex Huns watching it on tv and waxing lyrical about all things ‘Rangers’.

     

     

    Do they do this every week?

  4. The Blogger Formerly Known As GM on

    They said Goodson was worth £50m and it’s a pity he’ll leave for free😂😂

  5. The Blogger Formerly Known As GM on

    That’s shocking, Bada. There was no balance whatsoever. It was unadulterated Hun propaganda.

  6. Hoop hoop Hooray on

    Not posted in ages but I have a query which some of you knowledgeable chaps might be able to help with. What other managers if any have won a league title on 3 different continents. Have any in addition won a major international tournament as well? I cant seem to find any and am really surprised that nothing is being made of it in that regard. Stupendous achievement from ange. We are lucky to have him.

  7. Saint Stivs

     

     

    I rarely disagree with many of your posts. I also respect that you always come from a place of good intent. I can’t agree that there are not periods when the crowd at CP doesn’t really help the team.

     

     

    The combined nervousness and frustration (2 different things) of 50000 plus anxious / expectant / in some cases maybe even ‘entitled’ crowd can / does not assist in helping players deliver their best. It is not just a Celtic thing, it happens all over in top clubs. It is accentuated at CP due to the numbers in our support and the very slim margin for error. A home draw is a disaster in the SPL 2 horse race.

     

     

    Yesterday is not something I can comment upon as I wasn’t there. I am isolating pre op but it sounded edgy on the radio for the first 28 mins. Who knows if we had not scored would it have got worse ?

     

     

    I do agree the kind of negative rubbish on here is just nonsense and probably a reflection of how vested in Celtic so many are, even those with no season tickets who maybe cannot get along.

     

     

    We are amazingly lucky as Celtic fans of my generation because we can not only revel in the incredible success of 32 league wins in our lives but also recognise the 40 years previous saw us win less than a handful. So we will always appreciate and value every success without expecting it as of right.

     

     

    I als think that much maligned green brigade do all the heavy lifting as regards the singing and atmosphere most games. In the old days it was more a collective effort and just prior to the GB it was pretty funereal at times.

     

     

    It’s a difficult subject. I for one cannot comment on yesterday but for me the best atmospheres apart from Sevco on 2nd Feb have all been away this year, at Livingston 3-1 and at Ross Co 2-1 and 2-0 and at Aberdeen and Tannadice.

     

     

    I certainly cannot offer any real observations on yesterday.

  8. Greenpinata on

    It has not gone unnoticed what a class act Ange is after games. Win or lose.

  9. garygillespieshamstring on

    St Stivs @4.54

     

     

    Great photo.

     

    Jim Craig and John Cairney playing the route 1 game while Willie held the coats and Billy did his usual immaculate job of lifting the trophy.

  10. The Blogger Formerly Known As GM on

    Put me in the camp of wanting to win it on the pitch. Not disappointed by the result at Mordor.

     

     

    I really don’t care if they win their remaining league games 5-0. I’d even give them the SC so long as they are beaten in that Europa final.

  11. Saint Stivs on

    might it be his mam, and he is giving her his shirt ? hampden cup final win ?

  12. garygillespieshamstring on

    What odds will we get on Tav scoring 14 penalties in the next two games?

  13. IniquitousIV on

    GARYGILLESPIESHAMSTRING

     

     

    “What odds will we get on Tav scoring 14 penalties in the next two games?”

     

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    If we lost both games 1-0, would he not need to score 18?

  14. garygillespieshamstring on

    IniquitousIV

     

     

    Yes, but I thought that would be ridiculous so I gave us two 3-0 defeats. :)

  15. Spidey @11.04 pm

     

     

    ” I didn’t praise them for spending money they didn’t have, but rather that they focussed exclusively on making their side the best it could be, and they achieved their aims – stopped the 10. They’ve also out-performed us in Europe and become more respected as a result –”

     

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    You mentioned spending money they don’t have as being in contrast to what our parsimonious Board do, and you attribute their success to this backing, so it is hard not to see it as praise. They have outperformed us in Europe for 2 years, especially this year but you cannot attribute their policy of team building as being aimed solely at Europe while we downplay it. Both teams have aimed to win the league this year and do as well as they can in Europe. Celtic succeeded in winning the league and while we gained more Europa Group points than they did (outperformed them?) – they qualified and we didn’t. From that point they have outperformed their expectations and their planning and have gone further than they hoped and planned or. It is post-hoc reasoning to attribute their success in reaching the final to precision planning and bold strategising, either financially or tactically.

     

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    “What I am saying is that (1) we should spend what we have on the football team (rather than hoarding £30m-odd for a few years) and (2) stop always going for what looks like the cheaper option but often looks like a false economy.”

     

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    I will take your figures as accurate- I rarely look at them. Now can you consider why the Board and club might “hoard” £30m – I can (we are in court case stages just now). I can also consider that spending money and upgrading the stadium and surrounds might make us “attractive” and relevant to those who are attempting to shake up European football and might be interested in inviting a well run club with a good stadium and a large following. As for going for the cheaper option ?- As well as the cheaper managers doing as well as the Big names in our history, cheaper players have too. Larsson and Moravcik were better than expensive options like Gravesen, Roy Keane, Lljungberg, Hedman, Ian Wright, Kharine, Juninho and Marc-Antoine Fortune etc; but Willo Flood, and Amido Balde weren’t. As always it is about buying well not buying expensively and shopping in markets the big boys haven’t got sewn up. We need managers who can work well in our market. Some of our cheap managers have bought well- Jansen bought Larsson- Dr. Jo got Moravcik and Viduka, Neil Lennon got VvD, Wanyama and Forster, Ronny Deila got Gordon, Denayer & Roberts plus brought on Tierney, McGregor and Rogic as players. Brendan got Scott Sinclair but, good coach that he was in developing existing players, was poor and continues to be poor in the transfer market. He made a lot of our failures to attract Castagne, McGann and others but he was wanting to move himself, as Moussa disclosed, by that time. We do not know whether these guys did not come because we low-balled offers or whether they did not come because they had higher offers that we could not match. BR, looking for a way out, certainly pointed the fans at the suits for the blame and we responded as he wanted, yet still he left. Go Figure

     

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    “Interesting you omit the two occasions where we went “all in” on expensive managers – O’Neill and Rodgers. Both brought success we hadn’t tasted for a while and, in Rodger’s case for sure, paid for themselves.”

     

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    They were omitted only because I was responding to your point about expensive buying increases your chance of getting a return. I agree MON and BR were great managers for us but, like all our great players, they did not fancy staying here once their rep had improved with us. I pointed out some exceptions to the cheap buys guarantees failure. The equation we both would accept is Buy better players, regardless of cost, and success will come.

     

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    “In terms of Wim and Ange being cheap options, yes they were. In Wim’s case he left because his ambitions weren’t shared by the Board. We got lucky with Ange, I’ll give you that!”

     

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    Wim did not leave because of our transfer budget ; he left because he and Murdo wanted a higher salary. Good season that they had- neither he nor Murdo proved to be great losses as shown by their subsequent managerial careers. We dodged a bullet there.

     

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    “Lawell’s decision not to buy Fletcher potentially cost us the league that year. Giving Lennon the job in the showers led to inevitable decline and loss of the ten. Not paying the extra £1m in transfer fee led to us missing out on Toney and ending up with Ajeti. Floofing around with offers for McGinn led to him choosing Villa instead. All direct decisions of the Board/CEO that impacted our fortunes on the pitch.”

     

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    The Fletcher failure is a myth. We did not go in to terminal decline that season ; we had our slump after the Willo window but then fought back to lead the league with 2 games to play. And when we lost our title at Easter Road in the penultimate match, the worst player on the pitch was your proposed saviour, Fletcher, who was twice as abysmal as our forwards were. I think the fees for Toney and Ajeti was more than a gap of £1m but I still advocated for Toney and still feel it was a mistake. But again, it was a post-hoc mistake. Nobody could have been sure that Toney was going to be such a success, nor that Abet would be so poor. We are all sure now that it was a mistake. Because I advocated for Toney’s signing, I could claim to have foreknowledge but really it is just Monday morning quarterback thinking.

     

    McGann chose higher wages; it was his decision. Hibs would have got the same money from us as they got from Villa. John may well have been offended by being “strung along” but that came a long way secondary to the respective wage packets on offer from Villa and Celtic. He is entitled to do so and I do not resent him but Peter Lawwell did not “force” him to sign for Villa- that is childish reasoning.

     

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    “I’ll enjoy the league title and Ange’s turnaround. I’m merely frustrated that the Board don’t seem to want to do anything more than just enough, and as a result we have fallen into a pattern of domestic success, sleepwalk into a failure/embarrassment of some sort ”

     

     

    I think the Board have long accepted that a modest splurge will not cut it long term in raising our standard in CL. Not when our splurge would look like one reserve goalie signing for 40 other clubs in Spain, England, Italy, Germany and France. I think they are right.

     

    That does not excuse our truly abysmal campaigns- Sion/ Utrecht /Legia but it makes those 3 last 16 CL s and the Seville year all the sweeter.

     

     

    Ange has, so far, been great in the transfer window but I suspect does not think that he has done anything more than steady our ship. He will be looking for even more in Europe so we should both expect something even better.

     

     

    But neither of us should be looking to book a hotel at the CL final venue. Ambition is good but it also needs to be realistic and evolutionary.

     

     

    I’ll leave my contribution to the debate there.

  16. bigrailroadblues on

    Good evening all from the Victoria Bar. It’s an awfy hard life being a Tim. I may have to resort to beer. Or ripping the pish outta huns. OK, gents, I’ll go for both.

  17. Chairbhoy @ 5.29am

     

     

    “Well here we are again, squaring the circle. You are going over old arguments that have no credibility whatsoever. So let’s set the record straight and move on…”

     

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    Well having decided the outcome in advance, and typing over 600 words on a dead subject, I cannot see the point in giving a courtesy reply here. A debate can only be had with ears and minds open. Otherwise, we are just attacking and defending each other’s dogma.

  18. prestonpans bhoys on

    I can’t find a link to the hun penalty, has anyone seen it, is it one of those hun gems😱

  19. On the QuizBall front, wasn’t it the case that Celtic also competed against World Champions England and due to a mis-application of the rules, we lost, or in the vernacular of those days, ‘we wuz robbed’?

     

    Or am I taking my paranoia to new heights?

  20. Prestonpans 6.01pm

     

     

    Stonewall penalty (for a change) even for Hun MacLean to give …

     

     

    I watched most of their game today … (my Sevconian wife had the remote :-)

     

     

    Average … they know the title is ours, am delighted with Ange and our team but being a bit greedy a wee Frankfurt & Hearts double would be nice .. with John Soutar scoring the winner at Hampden

     

     

    A Bhoy can dream :-)

  21. ernie lynch on

    BOGNORBHOY on 8TH MAY 2022 4:50 PM

     

    Dennis Waterman

     

     

     

     

    R.I.P.

     

     

     

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    Only 74.

     

     

    I think he packed a lot into those 74 years though.

  22. BRRB 5.51pm

     

     

    When I was wee I wanted to play for Celtic

     

     

    Now that am older

     

     

    When I retire (if am allowed to retire)

     

     

    I want to be you …

     

     

    Enjoy a lovely Sunday evening … hope you’ve had a champion weekend :-)

  23. IniquitousIV on

    Man City 5-0. What a team!

     

     

    So called ‘invincible’ managers Rodgers and Seethin’ G in a different environment these days. 14 and 17 league defeats respectively for their teams this season. ( I think Slippy inherited a few ).

  24. garygillespieshamstring on

    Big Jimmy :)

     

     

    Would have needed to be a very easy question.

  25. Saint Stivs on

    wooft …………….. myth busted, we didnt win quizball in 67. and they did play an england select one time, good read this.

     

     

     

    i think we might be getting mixed up with sports team of the year on the beeb.

     

     

     

    and why isnt this gem known better well known in celtic folklore –

     

     

    McNeill was asked –

     

    “the dogstar is better known by what scientific name ?

     

    McNeill “pass to wallace”

     

    Coleman “i will repeat the question “the dogstar is bettern known by wich scientif name ?”

     

     

    wispy – “is it Pluto”.

     

     

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    https://ntvcelticfanzine.com/2016/01/12/the-original-route-1-football/

  26. Saint Stivs on

    bring back quizball, mare chance of winning it than europe

     

     

     

    The Original Route 1 Football

     

    Celtic dominated on the pitch during the Sixties, but on a BBC quiz show called Quiz Ball, our Bhoys showed that their brains were not just in their feet. Marmaduke Baglehole recalls the explots of another Celtic double winning team.

     

     

    Quiz Ball was to provide a great deal of enjoyment for all the Celts who followed the progress of our gallant Bhoys as they locked intellectual horns with the brains of British football – and Hearts.

     

     

    It was screened on BBC TV between 1966 and 1972, in the early evening, around the prime time 6.30 to 7.00 slot.

     

     

    The format of the programme was relatively simple. Three players or officials from each of the English and Scottish clubs invited by the BBC to participate, together with a celebrity supporter, made up the teams. Each week was a new match with the winners going forward to the next round. ‘Goals’ were scored by correctly answering general knowledge or sport-related questions. The questions were asked by the presenter, originally David Vine (above) although he was later replaced by Stuart ‘It’s a Knockout’ Hall.

     

     

    There were four ‘routes to goal’ which varied in difficulty, with route 4 requiring the team to answer four relatively easy questions and route 1 (the origin of the phrase in current parlance for a team that plays a more direct style from front to back) demanding the answer to a more brain-taxing poser. Route 1 was the only method by which the opposition could not intercept with a ‘tackle’ question. If this tackle question was answered correctly the defending team gained possession and got to attack. An incorrect answer resulted in a goal.

     

     

    The teams faced each other across a large football pitch which featured flashing lights indicating to the audience the chosen route to goal. There were also large wooden dummies painted in each team’s colours as additional adornment to the set. Some of these later went on to star in the Celtic defence of the 1990s.

     

     

    Quiz Ball kicked off for the first time in 1966, the first match ending in a 3:2 victory for Arsenal (with disc jockey Jimmy Young as celebrity guest) over Nottingham Forest. The Scottish contingent for this series consisted of Motherwell, St. Mirren, Dundee United and Dunfermline, all bar the latter exiting in the first round, albeit the Arabs – with Joe Brady, aka Constable Jock Weir of Z cars fame in their line-up – only lost to Leicester City after extra time, the Foxes’ goals coming from Lady Barnett and a John Kerr o.g.

     

     

    The Gunners went on to win the inaugural competition, beating Dunfermline 7:5 in the final (actor Gordon Jackson having recovered sufficiently from being gunned down by the Waffen SS at the end of the Great Escape provided the brain voltage for the Pars).

     

     

    Celtic were invited along for the first time during the all-conquering 1967-68 season, along with compatriots Hearts, Dunfermline, Kilmarnock and Rangers.

     

     

    The Hoops were represented by captain Billy McNeill, striker Willie Wallace, director (although the term can be applied very loosely in this instance) Jimmy Farrell and guest supporter John Cairney, most famous at the time for his portrayal of Robert Burns in an STV series.

     

     

    Cairney scored a hat-trick to add to Farrell’s goal, but it wasn’t enough to see off Nottingham Forest in the first round. With the score at 4:4 the match went to extra time only for dairy farmer and Brain of Britain contestant Ted Moult to score his fifth and send the Hoops packing, while Forest went on to lose 2:1 to West Brom in the final.

     

     

    Rangers, too, lost their first round match by 3:1 to Tottenham Hotspur. When the Spurs team saw John Greig lining up against them they took the sensible precaution of wearing shinguards.

     

     

    That fleeting Gerd Muller moment against Forest was to be Jimmy Farrell’s last public sighting until he came out of hibernation and turned up 24 years later to face an angry crowd at a Save Our Celts rally in the Shettleston Halls. For Celtic’s next appearance at Quiz Ball the following year he had been substituted by his dentist son-in-law Jim Craig, a graduate of Glasgow Univeristy. It was a tactical ploy worthy of Jock Stein.

     

     

    Ably backed up by Cairney – himself a graduate of Glasgow Uni – Craig’s superb overlapping Route 1 runs from deep positions ensured that Billy McNeill’s job was restricted to choosing which of his players was to answer Celtic’s questions. Invariably it was either Cairney or Craig.

     

     

    Willie Wallace was left to amuse himself by reading the Daily Record’s horse racing pages.

     

     

    Leaving Wallace to concentrate on scoring goals for real on the pitch, Cairney and Craig set about the opposition with gusto. Sunderland, assisted by celebrity fan James ‘Likely Lad’ Bolam, were thrashed 3:0 in the first round (Cairney2, Craig) and holders West Brom beaten 2:1 in a tense semi-final. Which set up an all-Scottish grand finale for that year’s show of Celtic versus Hearts. Sure enough, McNeill, Wallace, Cairney and Craig comfortably defeated Donald Ford, Jim Cruickshank, Alan Anderson and golfer Eric Brown to lift another trophy for the Celtic sideboard.

     

     

    The 1970 series featured fewer teams (8 instead of 16) and was entitled ‘Champions Quiz Ball’, presumably because all of the teams had won something the previous season, even if the Scottish Second Division was stretching things a wee bit.

     

     

    The line-up was as follows:

     

    Aberdeen (Scottish Cup)

     

    Arsenal (European Fairs Cup)

     

    Celtic (League and League Cup)

     

    Chelsea (FA Cup)

     

    Everton (Champions)

     

    Falkirk (Scottish 2nd Division champions)

     

    Huddersfield Town (English 2nd Division)

     

    Manchester City (League Cup and European Cup winners Cup)

     

     

    The Celtic quartet went about defending the trophy with a first round 4:0 thrashing of Manchester City (Craig 3, McNeill) who included Joe Mercer, Franny Lee, Mike Summerbee and celebrity guest Kenny Lynch – best known for being a stooge to Jimmy Tarbuck – in their team.

     

     

    Aberdeen in the semi-final were to prove more obdurate opponents, but Martin Buchan, Bobby Clark, George Murray and John Grieve, the over-wrought engineer from the Para Handy, were finally defeated by 4:3.

     

     

    Alex Ferguson actually played for Falkirk in 1970, scoring in a 1-0 win over Huddersfield. He found the net again in the semi final but the Bairns lost 2-1 to Everton (Brian Labone 2).

     

     

    The final of that series was a free-scoring affair which sounds as though it was the equivalent of Brazil v Italy in Mexico 1970. Eventually Celtic beat Everton (Harry Catterick, Joe Royle, Brian Labone and DJ Ed Stewart) by 7:5 to retain the coveted trophy.

     

     

    The Celts went on to play England in a one-off special which the Hoops lost by 6:7.

     

     

    Of the questions put to the Celtic team, Jim Craig answered around 90% of them, Cairney 7%, McNeill 2% (with an unpredictable strike rate) and Wallace… well, Wispy turned out to be the star of the show.

     

     

    No doubt in an attempt to justify Willie’s inclusion in the squad, Big Billy picked him to answer the question, “The Dog Star is the brightest star in the night sky; what is its more scientific name?”

     

     

    Willie’s answer, “Pluto”, delivered with a straight face, had the studio audience in hysterics.

     

     

     

     

    His only other recorded contribution to more than three and a half hours of quick-fire questions came when he was asked, “What is a garryowen?”

     

     

    His response, “A racing tipster” (there was a well-known tipster who went by that nom-de-plume in the Daily Express) had his team mates falling off their chairs.

     

     

    quiz ball

     

     

    Above: The Celtic Quiz Ball line-up: Willie Wallace, Jim Craig, actor John Cairney and captain Billy McNeill. John Greig is considering whether or not to make a lunging slide tackle on the BBC’s wooden dummy, an early prototype for Greig’s future dealings in the transfer market as Rangers manager.

     

     

    What of the mighty Rangers?

     

     

    With Celtic having bowed out at the top, they got a fiddler’s bidding to appear in the following year’s competition. Their team of Willie Henderson, Dave Smith and Colin Stein made Willie Wallace look like Doctor Jacob Bronowski.

     

     

    They were gubbed by Leeds United in their only appearance, the standard of which can possibly be judged by the following anecdote: at the time of filming the Sydney Opera House had just been built and was featured in the media of the day more often than Craig Whyte’s Ibrox takeover forty years later. The Kinning Park Eggheads were shown a picture of this unmistakeable edifice and then asked to identify it. They huddled together in conference before answering something along the lines of, “The Taj Mahal”, obviously confusing it with the Indian restaurant of the same name in Gibson Street. They were never invited back.

     

     

    For the record, the Finals were as follows :

     

    1966-1967

     

    Arsenal 7 Dunfermline 3

     

    1967-1968

     

    Nottingham Forest 1 WBA 2

     

    1969-1970

     

    Celtic 3 Hearts 1

     

    1970 (Champions Series)

     

    Celtic 7 Everton 5

     

    1970-1971

     

    Derby County 4 Crystal Palace 2

     

    1971-1972

     

    Dunfermline 3 Leicester City 1

  27. Saint Stivs on

    Guest supporters who appeared on the show included Jimmy Young (Arsenal 1966 & 1967)

     

    Ted Moult (Nottingham Forest 1966 & 1967 when Ted scored 8 goals in 3 games including all five in the First Round victory over Celtic – little wonder he went on to get that lucrative double glazing ad contract!!),

     

    Tommy Trinder (Fulham 1967),

     

    John Arlott (Southampton 1966)

     

    Percy Thrower (West Bromwich Albion 1966),

     

    Brian Close (Leeds 1966),

     

    Sam Kydd (Chelsea 1966),

     

    Leonard Sachs (Sheff Weds in 1966 then, suspiciously, Leeds in 1970 – who did he really support?),

     

    Gordon Jackson (Dunfermline 1966),

     

    Pete Murray (Fulham 1966),

     

    Brian Moore (Tottenham 1967),

     

    Sam Leitch (Leicester City 1967),

     

    Magnus Magnusson (Kilmarnock 1967)

     

    Harry Carpenter (Fulham 1967),

     

    Mike Smith (Coventry City 1967)

     

    Kenneth Cope (Everton 1967 – ghosting in at the far post no doubt)

     

    Alfie Bass (Crystal Palace 1967)

     

    James Bolam (Sunderland 1969)

     

    John Laurie (doomed to failure with Dundee in 1969 as they lost 3-1 to Arsenal)

     

    Lance Percival (Chelsea 1970), Ed Stewart (Everton 1970),

     

    Kenny Lynch (Manchester City 1970)

     

    Peter Cook (Tottenham 1970)

     

    Richard Wattis (Crystal Palace 1970)

     

    Nicholas Parsons (Leicester City 1971)

     

    Hugh Lloyd (Chelsea 1971)

     

    Roy Kinnear (Colchester 1971)

     

    Jimmy Logan (Dunfermline Ath 1971) and

     

    Jon Pertwee (Dunfermline Ath in the 1971 Final).