hamiltontim- Indeed, it could also be claimed that SJFC and Police Scotland are not carrying out best practice in respect to safety of spectators.
First priority in any risk control is to eliminate the hazard, i.e. stop the pyros getting in, this can be done with effective body searching of all spectators.
However if they decline to do this and effectively allow pyros in then in the event of a serious incident which may lead to a prosecution they will need to explain to the court why they did not effectively discharge their obligation by not eliminating the risk at source when they clearly knew how to.
kitalba on
up_over_goal :
I don’t get your point?
m6bhoy on
Stairheedrammy @ 13:25 on 22 December, 2013
The banners being banned to prevent polis from identifying those singing doesnt work when scarfs are over mouths or those snood things are used to cover the face- so I’m not sure that is the main reason for this
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I’m sure I’ve read a comment by some polis heid-yin about banners being held up when “offensive” songs were sung and this made it difficult for them to identify the “offenders”. I still believe this is the real reason behind the ban. Anyway, it’s pretty difficult to sing through a scarf wrapped round your mouth. Haven’t seen too many of our supporters wearing snoods. Still I suppose it’s only a matter of time before they ban scarfs then they’ll arrest who they want for being dressed a casuals.
NegAnon2 on
Snake they are out to get us no matter what we do. Our club rant just complicit but supporting this action. The ONLY response is to suspend our support from celtic financially.
NegAnon2 on
By the way all of this is going on while the Huns still sing the famine is over and light flares.
kitalba on
Every pound you don’t give them is a pound they can’t produce.
Every club that targets you, are you going to be the dick that pays them to target you?
TheBarcaMole on
desertbhoy 14:22 on 22 December, 2013
TBM… you still in the Phillipines??……………
Aye desertbhoy, for now but will be relocating in the interim to Sunny Halfway/Cambuslang in the New Year to allow us to take stock and plan for whatever/wherever is next.
Say hi to all in the Dub’s pal.
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
dessybhoy on
The Celtic family as one need to speak out on the issue of banning anything including flags, this means the board all the supporter associations/affiliations need to meet then inform the support why this is even being considered, the Police are rightly or wrongly going to enforce this offensive behavior law, this needs changed only Holyrood can do this,we all have a vote use it, if this is a major concern for any Celtic fan well you have a choice to make at the ballot box.
Greenpinata on
The Honest Cover-up @ 14.25 hrs.
As was stated earlier, Mr Salmond is a very clever, but devious man. Never underestimate him or think that these developments were not premeditated.
HH, Always in Celtic.
desertbhoy on
TBM…. can’t bud, wangled a trip home for a couple of weeks an looks like it may last a bit longer due to visa issues.
kitalba on
You wanted to be treated as equals, you really wanted to be treated as equals, then find the balls to earn the right to be treated as equals… if that means you can’t have a day on the piss in Aberdeen (not that Aberdeen are our enemies) then have a day on the piss at Mary’s meals.
BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on
DESERTBHOY
Look on the bright side-all those rolls n sausage….
The No.13 Shorts on
I don’t go to games much any more but I assume over-priced muck is still being served from the catering units. Tells you all you need to know if you’re a faithfull supporter. Feeding the poor in the east-end indeed. Thankfully I now get to avoid that diet, however, the policy of appeasement makes me vomit.
NegAnon2 on
Tony Donnelly you just never ecognisex the thin end of the wedge
kitalba on
Rather than give a masonic club your coin, stay home, have a beer with your mates and give a couple of pounds to Mary’s meals. A kid will survive, a bigot will starve.
NegAnon2 on
Tony Donnelly you just never ecognisex the thin end of the wedgeV
Stairheedrammy on
I just emailed St Johnstone asking if refunds will be available for Thursdays tickets
BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on
NEGANON
Maybe you made it too cryptic…
gebhoy on
Dessebhoy,
Bang on we need a unified voice on any action that we propose to take, I know Jeanette Findlay floated the idea of a meeting on twitter last week, one things for sure something needs to be done and done quickly!
If we decided to boycott all away fixtures and it was on the whole adhered to, wait and see how quick attitudes change.
gebhoy
desertbhoy on
BMCUW…. yes, but i’m actually getting a bit fed up with it now.. have scoffed copious amounts in all shape and form.. an even the well fireds are lasting a day longer and going stale.
Maybe need to go for a detox!!
Looks like i might be the only one going to StJ’s on boxing day… how am i gonnae hide the pyros… any spare pairs o’ w’pickers??
Kojo on
NegAnon
Hiya,Pal..?
Great tae Greet ye.
Good Idea,son
We should All.. Boycott .. All Celtic Games.
Nae Mair, Being a Mug..
Why.. We should Show Them!
Na Mair Going tae Gie the Celtic any mair o oor Dough.
and..
Sure ,It wull Be Hard oan Us..
Living and Breathin:..
WITHOOT A NOSE!
but,
It wull be Worth it !
Yep..
We wull Show ’em..who’s The Boss!
Kojo
Still.. Laughin.. Even.. Mairer!
weeminger on
neganon2 – I accept that yes it make identification of people easier. I just don’t think that flags make that so difficult that they need to be banned. The reason given actually seems more plausible. I still don’t support it though.
As for making life impossible for Celtic fans. Again you could be right that the current moves are the thin end, but as a move it affects a tiny, tiny number of fans. I could probably count on my fingers the number of times there’s been a flag waver in and around 143. I’ve been sat there for 15 seasons.
BIG-CUP-WINNERS on
corkcelt
That’s me guilty as charged of responding to our wee friend. I think he’s quite (unconsciously) funny, base and banal at times, but funny nonetheless.
I’ll desist and not give him the oxygen. But he’s not alone there are one or two others, who are clearly not here for the football chat and have an agenda to attack individuals. You were a victim of one last summer, if I recall correctly.
TheBarcaMole on
desertbhoy 14:34 on 22 December, 2013
TBM…. can’t bud, wangled a trip home for a couple of weeks an looks like it may last a bit longer due to visa issues………..
No worries pal. Enjoy the time back home.
You on a residence/employment visa?
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
Kayal33 on
Hooiveld og 2-1 Spurs
BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on
DESERTBHOY
The man who is tired of rolls n sausage is tired of life.
I’d kill for one right now!
weeminger on
If this is not a St Johnston move, why not just announce the same ban for Inverness? It’s sold out, so it’s not like an effective boycott could be achieved for that either.
On the other hand if a similar ban is announced, I’ll be shifting over to Neganon2’s position.
TheBarcaMole on
Only if you’re fae Glasgow……….
Whit’s brown and white and sits on tap ae the telly????????
TBM
BIG-CUP-WINNERS on
Ahhhh it’s changed it’s name.
tomtheleedstim on
That Llana looks a real good player.
Pod i on
BT, my mate Stewart played around that time too. Played against my cousin too so you may know him.
Where r u from originally?
Stewart was centre forward or right wing.
praecepta on
TBM
A TV Licence Demand?
BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on
PRAECEPTA
TV Licence?
Why bother,mine works fine without one.
praecepta on
Joos having a nightmare………. and ripping my fixed-odds coupon!
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BMCW ………FC not PLC 14:22 on 22 December, 2013
THE BARCA MOLE
You just blew my cover!……………………
I kid you not pal. It’s for real; alright may be in jest but it was out there and so I just thought…………
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
Snake I am amazed at your post defending this none sense. Amazed.
Your only weapon is your pound.
Don’t go to away games, support the u’19s’ instead, or the u’17s’.
The only thing you can do that will hurt them, all of them, is not to spend your money on them.
KEEP YOU MONEY. Your kids will love you for it.
hamiltontim- Indeed, it could also be claimed that SJFC and Police Scotland are not carrying out best practice in respect to safety of spectators.
First priority in any risk control is to eliminate the hazard, i.e. stop the pyros getting in, this can be done with effective body searching of all spectators.
However if they decline to do this and effectively allow pyros in then in the event of a serious incident which may lead to a prosecution they will need to explain to the court why they did not effectively discharge their obligation by not eliminating the risk at source when they clearly knew how to.
up_over_goal :
I don’t get your point?
Stairheedrammy @ 13:25 on 22 December, 2013
The banners being banned to prevent polis from identifying those singing doesnt work when scarfs are over mouths or those snood things are used to cover the face- so I’m not sure that is the main reason for this
———————————————————————————————————————–
I’m sure I’ve read a comment by some polis heid-yin about banners being held up when “offensive” songs were sung and this made it difficult for them to identify the “offenders”. I still believe this is the real reason behind the ban. Anyway, it’s pretty difficult to sing through a scarf wrapped round your mouth. Haven’t seen too many of our supporters wearing snoods. Still I suppose it’s only a matter of time before they ban scarfs then they’ll arrest who they want for being dressed a casuals.
Snake they are out to get us no matter what we do. Our club rant just complicit but supporting this action. The ONLY response is to suspend our support from celtic financially.
By the way all of this is going on while the Huns still sing the famine is over and light flares.
Every pound you don’t give them is a pound they can’t produce.
Every club that targets you, are you going to be the dick that pays them to target you?
desertbhoy 14:22 on 22 December, 2013
TBM… you still in the Phillipines??……………
Aye desertbhoy, for now but will be relocating in the interim to Sunny Halfway/Cambuslang in the New Year to allow us to take stock and plan for whatever/wherever is next.
Say hi to all in the Dub’s pal.
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
The Celtic family as one need to speak out on the issue of banning anything including flags, this means the board all the supporter associations/affiliations need to meet then inform the support why this is even being considered, the Police are rightly or wrongly going to enforce this offensive behavior law, this needs changed only Holyrood can do this,we all have a vote use it, if this is a major concern for any Celtic fan well you have a choice to make at the ballot box.
The Honest Cover-up @ 14.25 hrs.
As was stated earlier, Mr Salmond is a very clever, but devious man. Never underestimate him or think that these developments were not premeditated.
HH, Always in Celtic.
TBM…. can’t bud, wangled a trip home for a couple of weeks an looks like it may last a bit longer due to visa issues.
You wanted to be treated as equals, you really wanted to be treated as equals, then find the balls to earn the right to be treated as equals… if that means you can’t have a day on the piss in Aberdeen (not that Aberdeen are our enemies) then have a day on the piss at Mary’s meals.
DESERTBHOY
Look on the bright side-all those rolls n sausage….
I don’t go to games much any more but I assume over-priced muck is still being served from the catering units. Tells you all you need to know if you’re a faithfull supporter. Feeding the poor in the east-end indeed. Thankfully I now get to avoid that diet, however, the policy of appeasement makes me vomit.
Tony Donnelly you just never ecognisex the thin end of the wedge
Rather than give a masonic club your coin, stay home, have a beer with your mates and give a couple of pounds to Mary’s meals. A kid will survive, a bigot will starve.
Tony Donnelly you just never ecognisex the thin end of the wedgeV
I just emailed St Johnstone asking if refunds will be available for Thursdays tickets
NEGANON
Maybe you made it too cryptic…
Dessebhoy,
Bang on we need a unified voice on any action that we propose to take, I know Jeanette Findlay floated the idea of a meeting on twitter last week, one things for sure something needs to be done and done quickly!
If we decided to boycott all away fixtures and it was on the whole adhered to, wait and see how quick attitudes change.
gebhoy
BMCUW…. yes, but i’m actually getting a bit fed up with it now.. have scoffed copious amounts in all shape and form.. an even the well fireds are lasting a day longer and going stale.
Maybe need to go for a detox!!
Looks like i might be the only one going to StJ’s on boxing day… how am i gonnae hide the pyros… any spare pairs o’ w’pickers??
NegAnon
Hiya,Pal..?
Great tae Greet ye.
Good Idea,son
We should All.. Boycott .. All Celtic Games.
Nae Mair, Being a Mug..
Why.. We should Show Them!
Na Mair Going tae Gie the Celtic any mair o oor Dough.
and..
Sure ,It wull Be Hard oan Us..
Living and Breathin:..
WITHOOT A NOSE!
but,
It wull be Worth it !
Yep..
We wull Show ’em..who’s The Boss!
Kojo
Still.. Laughin.. Even.. Mairer!
neganon2 – I accept that yes it make identification of people easier. I just don’t think that flags make that so difficult that they need to be banned. The reason given actually seems more plausible. I still don’t support it though.
As for making life impossible for Celtic fans. Again you could be right that the current moves are the thin end, but as a move it affects a tiny, tiny number of fans. I could probably count on my fingers the number of times there’s been a flag waver in and around 143. I’ve been sat there for 15 seasons.
corkcelt
That’s me guilty as charged of responding to our wee friend. I think he’s quite (unconsciously) funny, base and banal at times, but funny nonetheless.
I’ll desist and not give him the oxygen. But he’s not alone there are one or two others, who are clearly not here for the football chat and have an agenda to attack individuals. You were a victim of one last summer, if I recall correctly.
desertbhoy 14:34 on 22 December, 2013
TBM…. can’t bud, wangled a trip home for a couple of weeks an looks like it may last a bit longer due to visa issues………..
No worries pal. Enjoy the time back home.
You on a residence/employment visa?
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
Hooiveld og 2-1 Spurs
DESERTBHOY
The man who is tired of rolls n sausage is tired of life.
I’d kill for one right now!
If this is not a St Johnston move, why not just announce the same ban for Inverness? It’s sold out, so it’s not like an effective boycott could be achieved for that either.
On the other hand if a similar ban is announced, I’ll be shifting over to Neganon2’s position.
Only if you’re fae Glasgow……….
Whit’s brown and white and sits on tap ae the telly????????
TBM
Ahhhh it’s changed it’s name.
That Llana looks a real good player.
BT, my mate Stewart played around that time too. Played against my cousin too so you may know him.
Where r u from originally?
Stewart was centre forward or right wing.
TBM
A TV Licence Demand?
PRAECEPTA
TV Licence?
Why bother,mine works fine without one.
Joos having a nightmare………. and ripping my fixed-odds coupon!
:-(
praecepta 14;51
Ha, Very Good .