CQN memorial, anti-Moneyball, FAC

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CQNers are a new type of community.  We mostly, though not always, share interests but we are anchored in commons values.  The achievements of the community are incredible.  We’ve made friends, some of whom are no longer with us and who shared their darkest hours on these pages, while others were lost in an instant.

Those lost friends now have a memorial stone outside Celtic Park, a credit to their memory.  Thanks to all who contributed.

You and I have been talking Moneyball for six years.  We’ve been convinced of the merits since then, most of the world is now, so it’s gratifying to know a manager would rather lose his job than succumb to the new orthodoxy.  Very brave of Mark Warburton, he has the makings of an ideal Newco manager.

Last week I wrote that I expected Newco to appoint Stuart McCall as permanent manager.  He was a reliable choice, had taken Motherwell to two consecutive second place SPL finishes, knew the task, had spent years scrapping around for free transfers and, let’s face it, is a ‘Real Rangers Man’.  I would not have looked past him.

Warburton managed Brentford for two years, winning promotion in the first and taking them to the play-off semi-finals in April, but Brentford is the story of owner, Matthew Benham, who has invested close to £50m in the club.  Warburton is fortunate to find two consecutive owners intent on spending £50m living the dream…….  you do have the money for him, Dave, don’t you?

Fans Against Criminalisation issued this statement yesterday:

“Our view is that from the outset, despite the claims from the then First Minister, Alex Salmond, that he ‘wished to build consensus’ the only support that the government has managed to attract for the Act is that of the Police Service of Scotland and the only consensus that is being built is that of the opposition to this dreadful, unworkable and pernicious legislation.

Their claim of public support for the Act is based on figures which show that people want action on sectarianism and not specifically that they support this Act.  They also conveniently ignore the fact that the overwhelming majority of sectarian offences (ie those with religious aggravation) do not take place in football grounds [http://www.gov.scot/resource/0042/00424865.pdf].  In addition, many of the incidents for which people have been charged under the Act are unrelated to sectarianism.

We deplore:

•             The action of the Scottish Government in giving off-the-record press briefings alleging that the Act will stay in place. This undermines the integrity of the Review process and the role of Parliament and its members.

•             The use of the statistics from a highly skewed YouGov poll commissioned by the government to mislead the public.

•             The continued reference by the Government to the Stirling research as being the ‘Review’ which the legislation requires them to have is an attempt to prevent the full and transparent examination of the Act which the public in general, and football fans in particular, expect and are entitled to.  These claims are made despite a statement issued by the University of Stirling on Friday (12/6/15) afternoon that the work produced by their team is not ‘the review’ and their work cannot be interpreted as ‘an endorsement of the Act’.

We note:

•             The conviction rate for this Act over the whole period of its existence is standing at 22%. This compares with a conviction rate for rape (itself notoriously low)  in 2013-14 of 41%

•             The scale of the resource devoted to enforcing this Act (including a specialised unit of the police service) which necessarily diverts finances and manpower from the detection and prosecution of more serious offenders.

We pledge:

•             To continue to oppose this legislation by all peaceful means until it is repealed.

We call on the Government to listen to football fans; to listen to those whose lives have been drastically affected by a piece of legislation which is a stain on the justice system of Scotland.”

We have the most right-wing left-wing government in history.

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  1. 67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar...... Ipox belongs to the creditors on

    It really was hilarious, and would be good if one of you guys could show it….I THINK it was the manager’s door he opened to enter, then someone shut it and pushed him in the right direction……hahahahahahaha

  2. Ray Winstone's Big Disembodied Heid on

    “Wrong Door” Warburton has a certain ring to it.

     

     

    I suspect this will be one of many nicknames for the hapless baker.

  3. 67heaven .. challenging the lie ..i am wee oscar…… ipox belongs to the creditors

     

     

    10:12 on 16 June, 2015

     

     

    So funny haha someone opened the door for him and he still tried to go through the wrong door haha guys a clown

  4. Ray Winstone's Big Disembodied Heid on

    Maybe the floury one could do a comedy routine with ladders along with Weirdo and Jarranty (is he still there?) a la 3 Stooges.

     

     

    Or try licking a frozen metal pole a la Dumb and Dumber.

  5. Loving the bravado from the Huns, now there telling Ashley he’s been put in his place and he’s not getting his money until they decide he can have it because it’s not costing them anything to hold on to it, well except the extra 25% of the retail money he gets till its paid stupid zombies everywhere

  6. As one door opens another, well, refuses to open.

     

     

    What a fine summer to sit back and enjoy

     

    “a shot from Marvin Johnson in the 52nd minute that spun off Marius Zaliukas and was dealt with by Cammy Bell in the way a drunk man might flap at a seagull homing in on his sausage supper”

     

     

     

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2s7634

  7. South Of Tunis on

    lennon’s passion .

     

     

    Story re Djuric is also on these sites –

     

     

    TuttomercatoWeb

     

    HITC Sport.

  8. skyisalandfill on

    Morning all.

     

     

    Malian Djuric

     

     

    2 goals and two assists last season.

     

     

    A non scoring forward.

     

     

    No thanks with the perpetual caveat that if by some twist of fate he pulls on the hoops he will get my full support

     

     

    HH

  9. The Green Man on

    The staggering stupidity of the sevconians is a joy to behold.

     

    They are stupid, and they don’t care.

     

    Surely the most misguided morons ever to draw breath.

     

    Personally, its a tonic for the soul.

     

    They have soared above the height of absurdity, and thick as they are, learn nothing.

     

    But,….it is great entertainment, that’s for sure.

     

    More fun to come yet.

     

     

     

    HH

  10. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    TBB , Paisleybhoy,

     

     

     

    and the lesson today is ?

     

     

    DontlikeMondaysCSC

  11. joe filippis haircut @ 09:59 on 16 June, 2015 is correct.

     

     

    Warburton is in The Manager’s Office. Someone came to his door just as he was about to meet the lambsters, and he opened it to whoever that was.

     

     

    The truth is men should never try to do 2 things at once.

     

     

    He did however close the boardroom door on big weirdo as he entered. That was nice.

  12. Sorry,I have no interest in FAC.I have no interest in “Bashing the board”.I have no interest in “Bashing the government”.I only have interest in Celtic,the team,transfers ,CL qualification.

     

    Huns,Mike Ashleys intentions.Their slow painful death,or near death existence.Their fans suffering agony,like last season,and being taken to the cleaners by all and sundry.

     

    I find life being a Celtic fan is a lot better without the angst and hand wringing.Not for everyone it seems,but it floats my boat.

  13. From the Scotsman just now:

     

     

    “Rangers (sic) should sign Ciftci, says Richard Gough”

     

     

    After they wrap up Messi (who ‘once interested Rangers’, don’t you know), Pogba and Bale.

  14. Just watched “eat-the-breid’s” presser…………

     

     

    :))))))))

     

     

    If this is the Level of stage-management we are to expect from the ranjurs group of klubs then , great-stuff – I think Laird Pompadour expected the invited churnos to stand and applaud or at least throw single stemmed roses……………

     

    …then, Nick Leeson’s standin-in appears to prefer the option of exiting stage left as the camera s roll and his Big Hoose BIG moment comes to pass…….

     

    …what a commanding VOICE too, eh!?

     

    ….Davie Weir’s presence managed to fill that……. chair… as well, eh!

     

     

    I’m convinced!

     

     

    UTLCY!

  15. Morning all.

     

     

    I’m expecting Jim White to do an interview with Warburton soon, and start proceedings with the words: “Mark. Why are you so good?!”

     

     

    HH!!

  16. Morning Timland from a warm hun free mountain valley.

     

     

    Conneybhoy

     

     

    I have a house in Luxor, on the west bank, the wifes cousin minds it for us, spoke to him the other day, things are very strained there just now, his advice is that it’s not safe.

     

     

    HH

  17. SixtaeSeven

     

     

    P67 will be sharing my contact details with you shortly old bhoy!

     

     

    HH

  18. TurkeyBhoy,

     

    If you were a supporter who lives in Scotland and attended games, particularly if you had a politically minded teenager, FAC would be important to you.

     

    But even if you just attended games and observed how fellow supporters, who are doing nothing to warrant the Police interest, are filmed, stopped and search and generally harassed, you would be interested. Or should be at least.

     

    FAC is necessary to highlight a bad law.

     

    Not having a go at you at all, but some things aren’t important until they affect you directly, it shouldn’t always be so.

     

    On the other matters, politics and so on, fair play. I agree re board bashing.

     

    Easy to criticise when the difficult decisions aren’t yours to get wrong.

  19. skyisalandfill on

    Turkeybhoy

     

     

    I enjoy your contributions for the most part and welcome dissenting views on the blog.

     

    However in saying you have no intrest in FAC, you depress me.

     

    Maybe as you don’t get the opportunity to get to many away games, you would have little first hand experience of FOCUS treatment of fellow celtics supporters at pittodrie and other places.

     

    Perhaps you don’t care that young Celtic fans have been lifted at airports, been subject to dawn raids and that the stated govt objective of tackling sectarianism is clearly failing and that no one other than those who enacted the bill and those with little or no intrest in football support it’s implementation.

     

    Well done to FAC and to hamiltontim for keeping this on ‘our’ agenda.

     

     

    HH

  20. 67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar...... Ipox belongs to the creditors on

    turkeybhoy

     

     

    10:41 on 16 June, 2015

     

     

    Is your boat the Titanic..? :)

  21. bawsman

     

     

    08:51 on 16 June, 2015

     

    Chavez

     

    08:36 on

     

    16 June, 2015

     

    thompsontwin

     

     

    05:29 on 16 June, 2015

     

     

    I won’t pick apart your whole rant but as unionists do, you refer to shipbuilding as if it were still a key industry in Scotland. At the time of the original referendum we were told that if Scotland voted Yes to devolution we’d lose shipbuilding. At the time there were 18,000 employed in that sector. Despite two No votes it’s now down to 3,000. To put that in perspective, Glasgow has about 25-30,000 working in call centres.

     

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    Your figures are lies:

     

    Apart from ongoing work on the two carriers, work on 13 new frigates commences next year whilst work the second of 3 offshore patrol vessels commenced last week.

     

    Plus, are you seriously equating high skilled jobs with allied top quality apprenticships with call centre employment?

     

    *****

     

    They’re not lies – it’s just the reality of the situation unfortunately. We could have a healthy shipbuilding industry serving military and non-military needs in Scotland but it’s been left to rot. We’re now totally reliant on MoD orders which are seen as some kind of gift from the UK Government. In actual fact we put far more into the ‘defence’ budget than we get out. Most R&D for instance is located on the M3/M4 corridor so it’s a subsidy for the South East.

     

     

    And no, I clearly wasn’t comparing the quality of the jobs but contact centres have replaced a lot of the jobs we used to have in manufacturing, before it was decided we’d stop making stuff and instead be a service economy with financial services at the core of it.

  22. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    Oops

     

     

    67 Heaven

     

     

    Turkeybhoy is the captain of our ship,of our ship…

  23. The Battered Bunnet on

    Chavez

     

     

    Latest figures I saw showed 90,000 in Scotland folk working in ‘Business Process Outsourcing’.

     

     

    That’s Telesales to the rest of.

  24. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    CHAVEZ

     

     

    I recall the explosion of call-centres in Scotland in the late 80s and early 90s. It was because ‘callers just lurve the Scottish accent’

     

     

    Aye,right. It was because the companies could get away wi paying crap as there were few alternatives.

  25. The Green Man on

    Ive noted recently, as I go about my community activism.

     

    Some peepul are wearing their Chelsea strips to mask their embarrassment.

     

    Ive developed a stock response as they pass by…I usually say something along the lines of….” Didne know there were Chelsea fans in Glasgow, strange”.

     

    Said in a tone as though id just spotted a polar bear chasing a zebra down Maryhill Rd.

     

    They do not like it.

     

    Hee, Hee,

     

     

     

    HH

  26. 67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar...... Ipox belongs to the creditors on

    Strong rumours that Chelsea are going to sack Mourinho in favour of ‘eat the breed’, ….Bread and butter stuff, you know…..

     

     

    Wonder how well bread will go with jelly and ice cream?

  27. We have the most right wing left wing government in history.

     

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    Neat phrase and gets attention.

     

    Apart from that, it does not bear further scrutiny, for me.

     

     

    The Scottish Govt. did not lure us into illegal wars and initiate the profit motive into Health care. Nor did it collude in rendition.

     

    These are just a few off the top of my head examples of a left wing govt. being right wing.

  28. 67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar...... Ipox belongs to the creditors on

    bobby murdoch’s curled-up winklepickers

     

     

    11:10 on 16 June, 2015

     

     

    Of our shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip….