Curse of the prodigy: Dembele, Feruz, Doak, Morrison, Hepburn

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After ten substitute appearances, Karamoko Dembele joins a long list of other prodigies, released by Celtic (or a later club) without achieving their hoped-for level.  Unlike many of the others, Karamoko stayed, hoping to make the breakthrough here, but despite attracting global attention as a 15-year-old and making his debut soon after turning 16, it looks likely the London-born player is set for a career as a jobbing player.

Islam Feruz is just seven years older than Dembele.  Chelsea beat off a host of competitors to sign him when he left the Celtic structure at 16.  A career totalling 20 appearances ended five years ago with a loan spell at Swindon, remembered mostly for his conviction for driving his Porsche while disqualified.

The body of evidence grows that a player’s potential cannot be reliably assured I his mid-teens.  Ben Doak (16), who made his Celtic debut, played in that memorable 3-0 win over Newco, then signed for Liverpool, has it all to prove.

Barry Hepburn, now 18, who left Celtic for Bayern Munich two years ago, or Liam Morrison, who we lost to the same club a year earlier, have it all to prove in Germany.  Morrison has made just four appearances for the Reserves in three years since joining Bayern, two from the bench.  Hepburn has made the Reserves’ bench only once in two years, but was unused.

Football is absolutely brutal when it comes to inflating and ending the hopes of young talent.  A tiny percentage of those considered near certain to make it, actually do.  No judgement on Doak, Morrison or Hepburn.  They would have gone with dreams of Champions League glory and no doubt an unbelievable wage.  Their next contract offer may be less attractive.

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  1. Garngad to Croy on

    Djokovic is a cheating B , bending the rules to suit himself (just like the Huns)

  2. I am almost certain I watched a whole load of the B team games on CTV, maybe I made that up.

  3. Big Jimmy

     

     

    agreed on the tennis lassie but I’d rather play golf with Paige Spirinac. She looks like someone drew her as a fantasy. Not bad at golf too

  4. The Onlooker on

    GARNGAD TO CROY on 5TH JULY 2022 3:15 PM

     

    Djokovic is a cheating B , bending the rules to suit himself (just like the Huns)

     

     

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    I don’t really watch tennis , however last week I saw about 5 minutes of Andy Murray first round….

     

    … he caught out his opponent with an “underhand serve ” …which i assume is where the expression “underhanded” comes from to denote ” cheating”.

     

    I was not surprised to see that the BBC commentators laughed rather than call it out.

     

     

    The Onlooker

     

     

    Evonne Goolagong CSC

  5. GARYGILLESPIESHAMSTRING on 5TH JULY 2022 3:02 PM

     

    Big Jimmy @1.09

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Good to see an appreciation of the finer points of the ladies tennis on here. :)

     

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    Never mind the flippin tennis mate…….CAMILA is just feckin GORGEOUS !

     

    Although I must admit….I still prefer KYLIE to any other Burd.

     

    LOL

     

    HH Mate.

  6. SINNER trying to do an Italian Job on NOVAK.

     

    Looks like Novak will win the 3rd Set ?

     

     

    I HATE that Chump KYGRIOS. I wish someone would jump up and stick the heid oan him.

     

    A hypocrite, Cheat…and a BIGGER moaner than McEnroe ever was.

     

    I always liked John Patrick McEnroe.

     

    HH

  7. bournesouprecipe on

    Knew it was time to go and cut the grass as soon as he broke in the third

  8. CELTIC V SC WIENER VIKTORIA

     

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    The Champions have arrived at their pre-season training camp in Austria and the action gets underway tomorrow (July 6) as they face SC Wiener Viktoria in a 5:30pm kick-off (Celtic Park time) at their central-European base, before they travel to the Allianz Stadion to take on Rapid Vienna this Saturday, July 9.

     

     

    Thereafter it’s a trip across the border for the Celts, who’ll visit the Czech Republic for a centenary celebration match against Czech Premier League side Banik Ostrava on Wednesday, July 13.

     

     

     

    A champions’ welcome awaits Ange and the Bhoys when they return home to Celtic Park for friendlies against Blackburn Rovers on Saturday, July 16 and Norwich City on Saturday, July 23, with a trip to Poland scheduled between these matches as the Celts celebrate the career of former Hoops goalie, Artur Boruc when they travel to take on Legia Warsaw on Wednesday, July 20.

     

     

     

    It’s a packed pre-season schedule for the Celts and you can enjoy every kick of the ball, with ALL SIX games, live worldwide on Celtic TV!

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  10. bigrailroadblues on

    Good afternoon all from the Stag Bar via the Quaich. A fine day to go wandering.

  11. Tom McLaughlin on

    Jannik Sinner has to be the first ginger Italian I’ve ever seen. Surely.

  12. Tom McLaughlin on

    Djokavic takes final set 6-2.

     

     

    Great effort young man.

     

     

    Santa Madre di Dio.

  13. Tom

     

     

    I read somewhere that red hair is more common in north Italy and folks get a real hard time about it. A bit like the old left handed thing. Catholic church driven as always

  14. Sinner is from South Tirol, formerly Austrian, a German-speaking part of Italy (well, they speak German and Italian).

     

     

    I can’t understand the negative comments about Djokovic, a great player, intelligent, articulate and always respectful to his opponents. (unlike Kyrgios).

  15. 79 caps

     

     

    I’m puzzled too, regarding negative comments & criticism of Djokovic.

     

     

    Why do those that think Djokovic is a cheat, think so? When did he cheat? What did he do?

     

     

    Honest question.

     

     

    HH

  16. When I put on the post about Sousa the other day,it was not based on rumours,it was from the Turkish outlet,who are nothing like ours.When it comes to a Turkish team,they are right on the ball.Every team in contention gets analysed to see the competition.Seems they now have issued an ultimatum,Fener,that is.Other teams now in,and they are fed up waiting.

     

    Don’t fancy our chances now.

  17. CONEYBHOY on 5TH JULY 2022 5:14 PM

     

    Tom

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I read somewhere that red hair is more common in north Italy and folks get a real hard time about it. A bit like the old left handed thing. Catholic church driven as always

     

     

     

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    Another subject I know nothing about – ha.

     

     

     

    My wife is a redhead, and her family has several of them. Great weans the neices and nephews and all handsome with it.

     

     

    In a particular quirk, her very dark haired sister managed to produce 3 ginger weans with her Tenerifian dark haired husband. For a long time they all lived in Adeje village up the hill from the Costa.

     

     

    Young Brendan in particular would visit the relative in North of the island and would have his head touched all the time by the locals in a tradition that a redhead baby brings good luck.

     

     

    Their granda from Garachico told me one time his friends were quite jealous that he had redheaded grand children, especially called Brendan, as the fishermen in particular belived saint brendan had visited Tenerife or La Palma, during his voyages, that took me by suprise that they new this.

     

     

    Next up, a redhead american in my work of Sicilian descent, traced famlly tree to an area of Sicily that had many redheads, bleived to be because of descents from Normans and Roger the first, and the gene spread across italy from there, but again it is seen as a lucky thing to have redhair, not a thing to be mocked.

     

     

    Cmon the Reds.

  18. Call me Gerry

     

     

    He has never cheated. I think once when he beat Murray in the Aussie Open Final he had some medical treatment on court, which happens quite often. Strangely, some people considered that cheating. Murray said he had no problem with it.

  19. As a counter to that,

     

    I have also heard of Mediterranean places in south spain (deeply catholic) who dislike red hair in a belief that the prophet was a redhead.

  20. bigrailroadblues on

    I’m a redhead. Must be good luck for all the women who have walloped me over the napper.

  21. 79caps

     

     

    I think it stems from him being Serbian (and proud of it) and them being the ‘bad guys’ in the 90s

     

     

    Then he had a few alt ideas of various subjects and then Covid jags finished him

     

     

    I can’t see that he did much wrong before Covid issue

     

     

    Also, Serbia will be lumped in with Russia, Belarus and the Stand on the ‘pick a side’ debate

  22. Regarding P67’s leader – and subsequent criticism of Celtic’s youth academy.

     

     

    I often feel that too many fans are after a “holy grail” of regular, talented youngsters coming through the youth set up, in conveyor belt fashion.

     

     

    Isn’t this mythical thinking?

     

     

    Why the constant criticism of the club regarding the lack of quantity/quality youths coming through the academy?

     

     

    It’s always been the case that we TRY to breed our own, or snap up youths from other clubs in the hope they progress to first team standard.

     

     

    Every club does this.

     

     

    Between the SPFL & England’s top 2 leagues alone we have over 50 clubs trying to foster and bring through young talent from their own youth group.

     

     

    Can anyone name me the clubs (and evidence this by naming specific players) that has mastered the art of regularly producing young players from their youth set up that then go on to be regular first team players?

     

     

    It isn’t as easy as many folk on here try to make out.

     

    If it was easy, many clubs would have consistent success.

     

     

    I think some folk simply enjoy criticising the club for the sake of it. But others actually believe the club is failing in this regard. Where is the evidence that it is the clubs fault?

     

    Why is it always the clubs fault that the likes of Feruz etc left, and subsequently failed to realise their potential?

     

     

    I don’t get the need for the constant, negative criticism.

     

     

    HH

  23. The prejudice on hair colour seems to be pretty recent thing. Wasn’t an issue when i was young and in the old Hollywood movies and pulp fiction i read; guys gave equal compliments to ‘blondes’, ‘brunettes’ and ‘redheads’

     

     

    My daughter’s pal has beautiful red hair but is paranoid about it and lacks confidence

     

     

    How did we end up like this? Shocking

  24. Call Me Gerry

     

     

    We had a good debate on this a few weeks ago and concluded that we always bought heavily apart from a few golden eras e.g., quality street, late 70s/early 80s crew

  25. Coneybhoy

     

     

    Strange that Serbia were the “bad guys” when NATO bombed Belgrade, killing a lot of civilians. Whatever, I think Djokovic is a decent guy.

  26. CONEYBHOY on 5TH JULY 2022 6:04 PM

     

    The prejudice on hair colour seems to be pretty recent thing.

     

     

     

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    Prejudice against red heads is an old, old thing. It was well established by Shakespeare’s time. Red hair was associated with Jews. That’s where the prejudice comes from. As for red headed Italians it’s reckoned it’s a legacy from the Norman invasion of Sicily and the South of Italy.