At 1:45 yesterday afternoon the prospects of Celtic stretching their lead at the top of the table by the end of the day appeared slight. The tide has turned in Celtic’s favour in recent weeks but leagues are hard to win and we need only think back to how many chances St Mirren peppered Fraser Forster’s goal with to appreciate the difference between winning games and dropping points.
Teams in the SPL are well organised, even eighth place St Mirren, who are on a run of poor form but apart from a couple of lapses defended well, created more chances than Celtic and played with adventure and confidence.
Celtic are the best team in the league but there will not be a single game before the end of the season in which they will be able to take anything for granted. The result from yesterday we should pay most attention to is bottom of the league Dunfermline’s 0-3 win at Kilmarnock. This is a league without whipping boys.
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Rogue @ 12:04
Taking a counter-intuitive look at this, shouldn’t we be backing all these efforts to have Newco RFC assumed, body and soul, back into the SPL … ?
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paulsatim is neil lennon says:
” Why has this not been highlighted yet in the huns’ case?”
Neil Doncaster is trawling the world of football for precedents and has chosen to highlight the one involving Parma.
I may be an old cynic but, perhaps, the answer to your question is ……. it does not assist the desired outcome.
The league is turgid as it is.
I welcome further turgitude if it means maintaining integrity.
CHEATS OUT!!
Why don’t you ask yourself some pertinent questions about your club and why they are in the situation they are in, then get back to us with your “Truth”…
Watch your arse doesn’t get red raw on your pity pot…
Bjmac,
great you sorted it. Listen, you are obviously a good bloke. Everyone in the workplace will get to see that and it work out fine. Hold your held high, you stood up for your principals. That will be respected.
Been given word for 2 each way Wolves
Speedy Yaki 3.00
Appleblossom Time 5.00
Best of luck
4767
You took your risk,and it didnae work. You thought you had the answers then,and,fk me,it seems you still do!
I’m quite prepared to take OUR risk now,a Scotland without Rangers.
Bj mac
Make sure you keep a note of the time and people in your office at the time, keep a paper trail…..
Just to be safe.
A very Happy Birthday to Joe Ledley who will be glad to know he shares his birthday with the esteemed Mrs Starry.
I better get off of here and get a cake bought!!
SP
BJmac
Mate you’ve done nothing wrong please remember that. It’s a horrible situation that has risen out of the bigotted attitude of another not because of anything you have done.
Now get on with your day you’re spoiling my birthday :-))))
The Broony Guide
Via starry plough
new article posted.
hen1rik:
I’ve already said the road the club must take.
Traynor is arguing this morning that even a penalty which is applied three or four years in a row, a ten point deduction at the start of every season, is dangerous for the SPL because it would give Celtic a clear run at the title in those years and declare the entire league meaningless.
This is the guff being talked. That our league would be worthless if one team was allowed to emerge as far ahead of the rest. When Advocaat was spending the money which got them here, there was no such nonsense in the press.
Our club can stop this, dead. We know they can. Pretending our club has no power to prevent this is ludicrous. The argument that we need Rangers is a joke; it has no basis in reality. If the only argument our enemies have is that Scottish football needs both clubs then THAT is the option we take OFF the table.
I don’t care how we do it, but there are ways to push clubs to the brink. We could hand in our notice, announce we’re leaving the league in three years. In the meantime, we could refuse to take tickets for away grounds. Pull out of the Scottish Cup. Refuse to take part in the League Cup.
Above all, we must use the media, the international media, not the Scottish hacks who allowed this, to go front and centre and remind the rest of the football world just what has happened here; a club ran up huge debts buying players. It then defrauded the tax payer and now seeks to be re-admitted to the league without any penalty of significance, debt free.
If we allow it, if we allow the lie to be perpetuated to this degree, that we NEED Rangers, we are forever the other side of that valueless coin. We are forever tied to them, as part of the OF, however low their fans stoop, whatever debts that club plumbs, whatever debased shame they bring on this nation.
We have no credibility left. Our very ethos will be elminated at a stroke.
Our board must explore legal avenues to prevent it. They must explore options for bringing the moral force of public opinion down against it. They must resist in every conceivable way, taking it to FIFA and to the courts if FIFA do not play ball.
How can the SPL board act in its own commercial interests in a licensing matter which goes far beyond the league and into the realms of challenging government tax policy? How can a man like Campbell Ogilvie, who served on the board of not ONE tax dodging club but TWO play any role in deciding the issue? Were Rangers granted a European license fraudulently? Was their ANY standard of investigation into their means? Who REALLY runs the game in Scotland, and do Celtic want to legitimise Rangers pre-eminence forever?
Traynor has said there could be a period when there is no club called Rangers in Scotland. A short period. Well, during that period there would be a vacancy in the league, at the bottom, because every other club would move up one place.
EVERY other club. Automatically. The SPL could not “keep open” Rangers place and would have to promote a club from Division 1. That means a club from Division 2 would be promoted. And a club from Division 3. That makes it the business of the ENTIRE SFA membership.
Nothing short of total resistence to this will be acceptable. The soul of our club is at stake. If we fight we WILL win. Rangers WILL need to start in Division 3. No-one will convince me that this can possibly happen if Celtic is implaccably opposed to it. No-one will convince me we could not kill this.
bournesouprecipe says:
23 January, 2012 at 12:16
Thanks Bourne…
Folly Folly – My personal opinion is this stuff is part of the PR game still, they will eventually come out and say because of what I highlighted above, and despite their best efforts, Mr Whyte cannot keep the company going and cannot do anything about it. It is the big boys fault as HMRC hate Rangers.
Whyte wants out. He doesn’t want anything to do with a pheonix Rangers. He wants his money and Mr Ellis wants some other choice cuts from the carcass
Is the new team called Farsley Mervan?
The fact that we are even discussing their re-entry penalty free shows that the moves have been afoot for a very long time for this and the lobbyists in the media are now doing what they were always going to do.
To be honest I think they’ll get straight back into the top flight in the event of insolvency BUT if they get in penalty free then games a bogie.
Every side on Scotland could in theory then file for insolvency and return into whichever league it was in debt free and legally they’d be allowed to – Rangers did it – precedent set, all future cases vindicated based on them getting away with it.
This is an absolute disaster for Scottish football if they are allowed in scot -free. Does anyone believe the likes of Mad Vlad won’t be all over this one like a rash if they can do it? Hearts will go the same way and then what will the SPL say? How could you have a brass neck at best to say otherwise and how could you have a league with zero credibility having even less than it currently does?
Who’ll turn up to watch that?
A league we know is fixed?
That is the real death knell for Scottish football and we’d better make them completely aware of it – the board (who I suspect do know about this) and the vile media. get the message out there to take away from the hacks’ message – they are merely doing what Labour are Tory politicians are doing regarding the independence question – looking after their own jobs. Tell people there will be no jobs and that will frighten them into staying.
It’s like Sinatra slagging off Rock and Roll in the 1950’s:
Rock ‘n’ roll smells phony and false. It is sung, played and written, for the most part, by cretinous goons. And, by means of its almost imbecilic reiteration, and sly, lewd and in plain fact, dirty lyrics … it manages to be the martial music of every side-burned delinquent on the face of the earth.
Now there spoke a man who knew his days were numbered and who feared the future and evolution of music as it would never be the same again for him – that’s what Traynor, Keevins et al are doing to the general public.
Celtic fans and board alike must share one common thread – Rangers in whatever form need to be punished for cheating – no exceptions made for them. Let them die and come back off their own merits or keep them in the SPL with huge punishments in terms of points for every year they cheated Scottish football of competition. Only these alternatives are acceptable.
Truth,
I can live with it. I will be just as passionate for Celtic even if the standard of player diminishes. You see Celtic is ‘more than just a club’ It is a family. Where ever our family is we will be happy.
That is the difference between our clubs. Yours rely on triumphalism, we are the people mentality ours relies on togetherness, goodwill and harmony within its community. It will be nice to be without the enmity for a few years. Enjoy the wilderness……
Their pleas are laughable.
Truthboy and Jabba, Sunday post, the lot.
Their main and only argument is that Scottish football should not be reduced to a one horse race.
This, my good friends, is what their team was hell-bent on achieving in their decade of addiction to financial doping.
Pure hypocrisy from the peepil.
Scottish football does NOT need rangers.
pigalle
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RogueLeader 23 January, 2012 at 12:04:
I wish I shared you and James Forrest’s confidence on this matter.
It’s possible to buy a company brand as part of a pre-pack admin arrangement. There are cases of companies continueing to trade under the same name with the same logo in the same business.
What powers do HMRC have in preventing the prepack from happening? From reading the internet very few. They can ask for 6 months VAT up front and soon they’ll be able to ask for 6 months PAYE up front. They can take the directors to court but this will happen after the new co has formed.
Maybe there is value in reading about Farsley Celtic but I guess theydidn’t buy the old co brand so didn’t have the rights to use the name.
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James Forrest:
Nothing short of total resistence to this will be acceptable. The soul of our club is at stake. If we fight we WILL win. Rangers WILL need to start in Division 3. No-one will convince me that this can possibly happen if Celtic is implaccably opposed to it. No-one will convince me we could not kill this.
In a nutshell.
Fine post, sir.
You, like them Hoops, are on top form at the minute.
pigalle
Truth
I live by Faith, Family and Celtic.
Do you really think I care who we play week in week out?
When rangers were dire in the early Eighties and their attendance was around 10,000, Scottish Football absolutely thrived. No-one will miss you…
James Forrest – and the hun who thinks we can’t do without his team.
If you look at attendance figures over the last 20 years or so, you will see that success has an effect on supporters turning up.
(good site here which provides the info http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm)
For instance in 2006, when Hertz had a great start to the season, and ended up finishing 2nd, their attendances were up 37%, and although they have dropped back since, their average support now is still better than it was prior to 2006, as they seem to have kept some of the support who were attracted by the success.
Murderwell this season have seen their attendances rise by over 10%, off the back of an ultimately futile challenge to split the top 2.
In Fergie’s final 3 seasons at Aberdeen when they won 2 of 3 titles, their attendances averaged 16k, with us and the Huns averaging 22k and 23k. That changed when Souness was brought in and the Huns started their financial doping. RFC’s tainted 9 in a row saw their attendances rise by over 30% over the period, as they didn’t care how weak the opposition was.
Some clubs in Scottish Football are better run than others, St Mirren and Hibs spring to mind. Why should their conservative, prudent and sensible approach be punished ? Livingston and Gretna paid the price for living outwith their means, surely any other team, no matter who they are, should pay the same.
This is not just about Celtic and the tax dodgers.
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Hun
You show a staggering disrespect for other teams in the league,especially those who have taken points from you,why would anybody need your club in the league? The league will flourish and be revitalized without you,there will be far more competition so stand up for the dignity of the game and accept your punishment for years of cheating.
So son Dallas is refereeing in the lower leagues. Should be getting a few Ranjurs games soon then.
DontPstmadug
i believe he has already had a few shocking games with our under 19’s