Derision, hiding, wanting to win the league?

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I don’t know is that was the worst home performance I’ve seen, but it was up there. We look like a broken team. Dundee were comfortable throughout, limited Celtic to one genuine chance in the game (in the 76th minute), and caused havoc during their regular attacks on Craig Gordon’s goals. Their best chance came from a corner kick (what else), which was sent over by a player who stopped to head the ball from 5 yards.

Charlie Mulgrew is not the most gifted player, he’s not a central midfielder and he’s not game-fit yet, but despite putting in an indifferent shift last night, he never hid.  The juxtaposition between him and others was stark.  We need players with attitude – the captain back on form, Kris Commons fully fit and starting, and others taking their lead.

Confidence is on the floor. Mistakes, backwards passing and long balls forward were all subject to derision, but I think last night was the first time I’ve heard a Celtic substitute being booed onto the field.  All because he doesn’t want to renew a contract for his position as occasionally-used squad player.  The seriousness of the situation is clearly lost on those who want to boo a player taking the field instead of encouraging the guy to help us win a game.  The whole experience got me thinking, how many of us actually want to win this league?

You better believe they want to win it at Pittodrie.  They have focus, form, packed stands and patience.  They also enjoy the ‘Leicester City effect’ – everyone not competing directly with them wants them to win.  The rest of Scottish football is desperate for us to tear ourselves apart right now.  We need to circle the wagons, live up to the reputation we like to think we have, and play our role in delivering this title.

You want 10-in-a-row?  Bring me your complaints in May, but for now get your shoulder to the wheel.  This is not our first performance crisis and it won’t be our last, as a collective, we need to be smart in dealing with these situations.

Everyone at Celtic Park (and beyond) knows this is not good enough, and there’s going to need to be big changes in the summer, but we need to get our act together and put the inquest on hold until the end of the season.

 

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  1. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    26 pounds a ticket. To see four attempts or less on goal since mid January just before Sevco come back into the SPL unchallenged about ABSOLUTELY anything and some are asking about fan behaviour here at the home of the the million pound man´s mouth piece

     

     

    REALLY ????

     

     

    I MEAN REALLY ??? REALLY ??

     

     

    HH

  2. TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on

    Awe Naw

     

     

    “If you want to swallow swallow Paul67´s filthy continuous lies then that is entirely up to you but on that basis alone don´t expect anyone decent to listen to what you are saying.”

     

     

    Filthy continuous lies??????? Get a grip. Terrible thing to write.

  3. Weeminger

     

     

    What’s our current direction of travel?

     

     

    63 points from 28 matches suggests us finishing with 85 points.

     

     

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    85.5 points yes. I’d round up to 86.

     

     

    To get 86 points, Aberdeen would need to win 9 and only lose 1 of the last 10.

     

     

    That’s 2.7 points per game which is significantly higher than the 2.1 points per game they have accumulated this season.

     

     

    EVEN THEN they would need to overcome the goal difference of 31.

     

     

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    While 8 points from 15 in our 5 most recent matches suggests 79 points. I’d say that represents the spread.

     

     

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    Personally, I think 5 games is too small a sample.

     

     

    Either way, Aberdeen have only managed to get 9 points out of the last 5 games anyway.

     

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    Aberdeen are averaging 2.1 points per game over the season, a season which is curiously defined by long periods of consistency interrupted by shorter periods of inconsistency. It would be ‘on trend’ were they to win 8 and lose 2 of their remaining 10 matches, giving a points total of 83.

     

     

    Irrespective of the level of confidence an individual has over the outcome, it’s clear that Aberdeen’s sense that the title is in play for them is very much valid.

     

     

    Celtic supporters who are becoming anxious over how the league will play out not acting from some inexplicable sense of doom.

     

     

    For the record, I think we’ll win the league this season, but I must confess that it would no longer be a surprise if we didn’t. Aberdeen at (currently) 9/1 to win it defies the available evidence.

     

     

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    You are not comparing like for like.

     

     

    Points per game so far: Celtic 2.25 Aberdeen 2.1

     

     

    Points per game so far over the season multiplied by 38 = Celtic 86 Aberdeen 80

     

     

    Using points per game using the last 5 games suggests: Celtic 79 Aberdeen 77

     

     

    Effectively, we are set to win the title on current form AND form over the season.

     

     

    Aberdeen needed to obtain a points swing of 18 since last season. So far they have achieved 5 points with only 5 games to go.

  4. ORIGINALSADIESBHOY @ 2:28

     

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    Good post – points reasoned and well made.

  5. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    TOSB

     

     

    more accurate that the articles we have been fed since the 5 way agreements.

     

     

    Or is betraying your fellow tims while cashing in the ONLY way to go ?

     

     

    That is far more terrible, that you do not agree says far more about you than me.

     

     

    HH

  6. BIG-CUP-WINNERS on 3rd March 2016 1:48 pm

     

     

    Sandman

     

     

    Enjoyed your post.

     

     

    Wee question about Henrik. Does he have the personality ? I always felt he was so focussed he seemed almost an introvert.

     

     

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    Focussed is only a good thing. If that transfers to the players, even better; they sorely lack it right now.

     

     

    Whether he has the personality remains to be seen, but the one thing he does have above any other candidates to aright the wreck is stature.

     

     

    Henrik Larsson equals immediate respect from underperforming players suddenly presented with a genuine legend to call boss and prove themselves to. You’re playing for Henrik Larsson, if that ain’t enough motivation there’s a taxi running outside.

     

     

    Henrik Larsson also commands instant respect and goodwill from a support who worshiped him in the Hoops. That gives him the time and the loving backing of a support desperate to see him succeed. It also re-energises the support.

     

     

    He is the King of Kings; it’s about time. No point in soft-shoeing him into a comfortable ride – all the more joyous if he can turn the tide and make us an entertaining, competitive force again at the highest levels possible. Nobody wants to see him fail but that’s a defeatist argument. It should not be a barrier to revitalising the club by installing one of the greatest as the figurehead.

     

     

    We need heroes again. Start at the top with the King.

  7. The Battered Bunnet on

    Weeminger

     

     

    I agree that we’re favourites, after all we have a 4 points lead and a goal diff advantage that can’t be touched.

     

     

    But I infer that you also agree it’s very much ‘game on’.

     

     

    Both teams will drop more points before the end of the season. Aberdeen are just one more Celtic draw away from making the Celtic-Aberdeen match a “title decider”.

     

     

    Who’d have thunk it?

     

     

    Expect our final fixture to be Hearts at Tynecastle…

  8. THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY on 3RD MARCH 2016 2:47 PM

     

    Awe Naw

     

     

     

     

     

     

    “If you want to swallow swallow Paul67´s filthy continuous lies then that is entirely up to you but on that basis alone don´t expect anyone decent to listen to what you are saying.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Filthy continuous lies??????? Get a grip. Terrible thing to write.

     

     

     

     

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    Agreed , that was a disgusting comment. The comment that no decent people will listen to any point of view opposite to his is also disgraceful.

     

     

    The embodiment of self entitled rage

  9. Henke hasn’t exactly been a success in Sweden

     

     

    Falkenburg: P 30 W 9 D 6 L 15 = 1.1 points per game

     

    Helsinborgs: P 34 W12 D 6 L 16 = 1.2 points per game

     

     

    Why should we appoint a bang average coach? Cause he used to be a great player?

     

     

    Get a grip.

  10. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    BARCABHOY on 3RD MARCH 2016 2:55 PM

     

     

    You and TOSB just did and it is not entitled now is it ?

     

     

    You go back to your arse licking that is all you have ever brought to this forum anyway.

     

     

    HH

  11. Here’s the fantasy:

     

     

    Henrik at his desk, first day in Paradise, picks up the phone.

     

     

    ring-ring; ‘Halla?’

     

     

    ‘Zlato? It’s Henrik. you know what I’m doing now? How do fancy a year or so in Paradise, help me sort it out?; we’ll put something together for you’

     

     

    Ibrahimovic: ‘Fantastic! I’m in!’

     

     

    Me, you, everyone else: head explodes.

     

     

    ;))

     

     

    Hooked yeez now, eh? You know it’s possible under one man only…

  12. squire danaher on

    Timaloy

     

     

    Any model for calculation for this year’s eventual points tallies for Celtic and Aberdeen based on last year’s final tallies is flawed, unless it takes into account Aberdeen’s virtual downing of tools after losing at CP.

     

     

    While Celtic won the title by 17 (?) pts, I think it is reasonable to suggest that if the gap stays around 4-6 pts until the split, there is no cause for optimism that Aberdeen would repeat their collapse of last season.

  13. The Battered Bunnet on

    Awe Naw

     

     

    Want to swap those boiling beans for some rather cooler ones?

  14. Hrvatski Jim on

    Henrik Larsson’s Managerial Record (per Wikipedia)

     

     

    Falkenberg:

     

    Played 30,

     

    Won 9,

     

    Drawn 6,

     

    Lost 15

     

    Win record 30%/Loss record 50%

     

     

    Helsingborgs IF:

     

    Played 34,

     

    Won 12,

     

    Drawn 6,

     

    Lost 16

     

    Win Record 35%/Loss Record 47%

     

     

    We all love Henrik as a player but this does not constitute Celtic Manager material to my mind.

  15. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    The club is exactly where the executive planned to be, you need to go back decades to find such a competitive Top division.

     

     

    Should we be cheering on players that can’t be bothered trying ?

  16. TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on

    AWE_NAW_NO_ANNONI_OAN_ANAW_NOO on 3RD MARCH 2016 2:51 PM

     

    TOSB

     

     

     

     

     

     

    more accurate that the articles we have been fed since the 5 way agreements.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Or is betraying your fellow tims while cashing in the ONLY way to go ?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    That is far more terrible, that you do not agree says far more about you than me.

     

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    Awe Naw

     

     

    Who is betraying his fellow Tims? Paul 67? I think you’re overestimating the influence Paul has. As far as I can see a lot of factors influence whether or not fans turn up at Celtic Park or not. The individual fan’s financial position, how the team is performing, entertainment value (for money), what the weather is like, kick off time, other conflicting obligations, what’s on the telly (for some). I don’t think Paul has any ability to compete with these factors. To me Paul has provided the blog over the last 12 years for us to come on and spout forth our opinions and let off steam. Prior to that there was less opportunity for Tims to do that. In the main, Paul puts up an article and let’s us get on with it unless it becomes overly abusive.

     

     

    The words you used were excessive and uncalled for. I’m happy with myself as a Tim. I turn up and support Celtic. I always want them to win and hope that we can return to being a European force. I also have a family and friends to consider in my life. In fact, they might just have the edge over Celtic. It’s called perspective.

  17. I do not know of any Celtic supporter that does not want the ten. After suffering through the years of cheating, bending the rules it would truly be a fantastic achievement. However where many of us disagree is if we should make the change now to ensure we get to five. I have seen a few players booed for not renewing a contract Liam Miller and Maurice Johnston spring to mind. Every Celtic player deserves our full support however when it looks as though effort is questionable and players are hiding and not showing for the ball it will bring derision from the stands. The whole club needs to demonstrate they want the 10.Board,manager and players.

  18. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    TOSB

     

     

    I can concur with most of that but I am not peddling the line Celtic news not lazy journalsim

     

     

    HH

  19. ballymenatoybhoy on

    These recent posts about projected points total can be discarded – simply because of the sudden decline in and relatively prolonged team performance – I mean it would also be reasonable as well as accurate to say that if celtic don’t het heir finger out then they will be accruing very few points going forward, Celtic have rarely been on top of their game at any point this season but this recent and consistent downturn is cause for real concern. I mean its not like we’ve had a few “mess’s” out injured and ready to come back in! For many of you “the writing on the wall” will have been earlier but for me it was the recent Ross County game – a game which we won btw! But what a dreadful performance that was! Somehow the majority of the team that played last night – and against Ross County – have got to turn things around. Who would put money on that with talisman SB in such dire form?! At the moment the points adv are with celtic but the dynamics are very much with the sheep. Hail, Hail!

  20. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    MAIDENBHOY

     

     

    I dont give a flying **** about the ten it only legitimates OLD Firm.

     

     

    We already have 9 the other club that cheated its way to 9 unfortunately can´t be ersed proving it

     

     

    It will affect their bonus you know

     

     

    HH

  21. SQUIRE DANAHER on 3RD MARCH 2016 3:02 PM

     

    Timaloy

     

     

    Any model for calculation for this year’s eventual points tallies for Celtic and Aberdeen based on last year’s final tallies is flawed, unless it takes into account Aberdeen’s virtual downing of tools after losing at CP.

     

     

    While Celtic won the title by 17 (?) pts, I think it is reasonable to suggest that if the gap stays around 4-6 pts until the split, there is no cause for optimism that Aberdeen would repeat their collapse of last season.

     

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    Aberdeen have proven capable of going on horrible runs. Even when the title is a close run thing.

     

     

    I wouldn’t dismiss it as some anomaly.

     

     

    Secondly, we don’t need them to collapse again. If both teams continue on the same trajectory, Celtic will win the league.

  22. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    The problem with getting things sorted out in the summer is that we won’t have a summer.

     

     

    The CL or EL qualifiers, (imagine having to write that), kick in in July.

     

     

    Before that, we have the Euto 2016 Finals, which will focus the attention of perhaps managers or players we may be interested in.

     

     

    I was happy that we focussed on bringing in players in January and last summer, to prevent the upheaval and settling in of players in July.

  23. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    TBB

     

     

    I am fine mate ….. calm and as calculated as I always am.

     

     

    HH

  24. Canamalar,

     

     

    Everything seems so manufactured now. Either Side of the Money.

     

     

    Celtic is Special.

     

     

    I’m on the right side being a Celtic Supporter.

     

     

    I know I have ‘Extremist’ views noo because of this World.

     

     

    Celtic is Special. Nothing changes there.

     

     

    Come on the Ronny D.

  25. The Battered Bunnet on 3rd March 2016 2:53 pm

     

     

    I agree that it’s game on. I also think more credit needs given to Aberdeen for keeping up. We’re on an average pts total it’s really down to them that the run is so close.

  26. The only thing that suggests Celtic won’t win the title is wishful thinking.

     

     

    Surprising to see so much of it on CQN.

  27. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Time to get Celtic men in the dugout to get us over the line,Davie Hay,Tom Boyd and Willie McStay.

  28. Assuming we beat Morton and play (reasonably) well would it be asking too much injuries permitting to play the same team in the next game rather than yet again rotate the mid three?

     

     

    Does RD know his best team?

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