There’s always a bit of trepidation before Celtic play a meaningless game, like they will do in Turkey tomorrow, the propensity to pick up injuries feels higher, although this is possibly not borne out by statistics.
Before Sunday the team look like they needed a break but no injuries, please.
It’s been a long time since I’ve heard allegations that some or other council are controlled by, and for the benefit of, an ethnic or religious minority. This is an old-time prejudice, up there along with allegations of criminality or the personal hygiene habits of the minority. But like Corporation buses, they come in groups.
Anyone can report Celtic for whatever they like, and believe me, many do. Which is a great pity, as there are real targets worthy of attention elsewhere….. For years, while others were buying football bling, Celtic were acquiring land, all appropriately, as is their borrowing. More importantly, they have been able to establish all of this without question. Confirmed.
Just because one club was an omni-shambles doesn’t mean any others are. Enjoy the laugh.
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Snake Plissken
22:21 on 8 January, 2014
That’s just rehashed SNP propaganda. People over here don’t believe it. That’s why the bookies are so sure of the outcome.
Big Sam interview:
“we’re very disappointed…………………..”
Whit?
Ernie,
take a look at Sturgeons record as a Lawyer, with Bell and Craig (Stirling)
Would suggest already a failed Lawyer ?
No more politics from me,
Now interested on what EddieinKM has to say about BTVion, never heard of this
Hail Hail
Ernie Lynch
As opposed to your Brit Nat propaganda?
Whatever!
croppybhoy
22:21 on
8 January, 2014
OK given that the guy walked free, what moves do you see happening to improve the situation if the union stays?
Do you think it’s more likely that the SNP will retain power in the Holyrood as a reaction against Westminster, particularly if the Tories retain power at the next election, or will the SNP lose the majority?
Do you want to retain a situation whereby the Scottish population can have laws imposed upon by a party that only a tiny minority voted for?
Snake, your reasoning on Sterling is breathtaking in its ignorance of economics, and your comments on the EU are breathtakingly ignorant about politics.
Your whole case seems to be : It’ll be ok because Alex says so…
Independence is an expensive illusion. In my opinion, the smaller the entity (Nations are a relatively modern phenomenon) the less independence it will have. I don’t know enough about all the issues regarding Scottish independence, nor would I have the audacity to tell people how to vote, but membership of the EU is most definitely not “Independence”. Ireland inc. will be paying back billions of Euro over the next 30 years because they didn’t understand that.
Incidentally, I didn’t vote for the SNP – and nor did the majority of people in Scotland. Yet it would appear I am having laws “imposed on me”
What should I do? Declare myself independent?
Snake for First Minister in an Independent Scotland. Brilliant post.
Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.
Cowiebhoy supporting the Celtic to 3 in a row
22:28 on
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Thank The Lord we have a meaningless bounce game against a Turkish mob the morra……..:)
Italia Bhoy
Go on and explain where I am wrong if you’re the expert.
I am no economist I’ll grant you but where there is a will there is a way. A black hole will not swallow Scotland.
As for the EU. Please point out where I am wrong.
You offered your assertion, I gave mine.
If Cameron asked the EU they’d need to give a definitive answer – why doesn’t he?
You’re entire argument is I don’t know what the future will bring so I’ll just stick to what I know. There is a word for that and it isn’t sensible.
Show me another country in the world with the assets of Scotland who are happy to be ruled by another one and I’ll show you the only one dumber than Scotland.
eddieinkirkmichael, Thanks had me worried that I had missed a trick which Mrs Dawn would no doubt hold against me.
By the way why dont the SNP introduce the Bawbee as the new currency
the men who own Scotland – bbc1 now
http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/sex-lies-and-selfies-paul-brennans-new-nightmare-in-rtes-fair-city-29899233.html
Hmmm ! now where did i hear that name before ?
Nice picture
They wouldn’t need to introduce anymore bawbags, plenty around :-)
What is this garbage we are now hearing from the ‘queer folk’ about the illegal land-grabbiing by Celtic to provide our training facilities at Lennoxtown? I am no lawyer but I would be confident in defending Celtic’s case in this affair. First of all, Lennoxtown is in East Dunbartonshire and not in Glasgow. Secondly, Celtic only went to East Dunbartoshire because Glasgow Council had turned the down. Celtic who wanted to build their new training complex in their homeland of the east end of Glasgow ,in the land around Barrowfield. This proposal was turned down by Glasgow Council for the ludicrous reason that ‘if they did this for Celtic they would have to do the same for Rangers’.. Only in Glagow could this cock-eyed logic could be used as all the while, they had their ‘state of the art’ training facilities at MURRAY PARK at Milngavie outwith the Glasgow boundary.. I can only conclude that this fairy tale has been launched in advance of more bad news for our poor neighbours across the river.
Weeminger
What we do know is that every major advance that has benefited ordinary working people in Scotland have come about through the election of a Labour government in London
Remember that in 1945 Scotland actually voted Conservative
Being brought up in a Labour household I was always taught that I had more in common with working class people in Manchester,Liverpool,Birmingham and London than I would ever have with the populations of the Highlands etc
To this day they vote – not for the Labour Party but for the LibDems or SNP
So where would this socialist Utica be based in an independent Scotland?
Do you think Morningside will go red? Do you see a red Perthshire?
Politics is mainly about demographics – RCs are a small and decreasing minority in Scotland – they will be increasingly insignificant in voting terms – that’s the reality of our situation
Anyone who thinks Scotland doesn’t have a problem with anti Catholic – especially Irish Catholic bigotry is deluding themselves
When this was raised the Scottish Government response has been to criminalise CFC supporters! – that’s the reality of what’s actually happening !
Doesn’t suggest things will be better in a country where these self same people will have sovereign power unchecked by London!
HH
Let’s talk minority percentages as winners.
In 2011 the SNP won a theoretically impossible majority at Holyrood with 45% of the vote from 50% turnout – so roughly 22.5% of the population voted for them.
In the 2010 general election the Conservative had 16.7% of the votes from a 64% turnout so although only 10.7% of Scots voted for them they still ended up with a mandate to rule here.
Secret info on the new proposed Scottish Currency,
100 Bawbes = A poond
5 x Poond = A 5 spot
2 x 5 Spot = a 10 spot
2 x 10 spot = A score
2.5 Score = A Sesh
2 x A Sesh = A Radger
5 x A Radger = A Whitey
2 x A whitey = Blowoot
Weeminger
Of course you ignore the fact that the Tories are actually in power thanks to the Lid Dems
HH
croppybhoy
22:44 on 8 January, 2014
‘Remember that in 1945 Scotland actually voted Conservative’
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1955.
The Tories didn’t just win in Scotland, they got a majority of the popular vote.
The Tory voters haven’t disappeared. For the most part they now vote SNP. That’s why the SNP safe seats all used to be safe Tory seats.
Snake
Are you or Billy Bhoy going to allay my fears ?
PS Who is the independence advocate overseas ?
the genius that is Messi is back
20 mins as sub scores 2
croppybhoy
22:44 on
8 January, 2014
Would you like the possibility of a more socialist Labour party? Or are you happy to keep the one that is against free school meals for P1-3?
If you think changes for the better are more possible with things as they are that’s fine. I’ve yet to see anything positive from the No campaign. It’s nothing but fear from them and as I’ve said before I know of at least two people that were stongly No that have changed, largely on that basis.
Fear and scaremongering is the realm of the Daily Mail and the Right.
Snake it late but I will answer on the economics point.
Your scenario seems to be :
Scotland leaves uk
Uk refuses to act as bank of last resort to Scotland citing recent chaos with economic unions not underpinned by political union.
Scotland says “stuff you, we’ll use pound anyway oh and by the way we won’t take our share of national debt.”
So.
Scotland is blackballed by international markets who refuse to lend to a country which defaults on its debt and has no reliable credit history, nor it’s own central bank.
Scotland – already running a deficit – has to massively hike taxes or slash spending or both or face bankruptcy.
Scotland – on an invidious position – is finally admitted to Eu after years of torturous negotiations and in return for using the euro has to sign up to ever close economic and political integration with the rest of the Eu.
Including the UK…
Honestly. What. Is. The. Point
The Labour party has a history on sectarianism
A longer history than the SNP in that respect
The labour party of Larkhall preached a very different message about Catholics than the Labour party of Coatbridge and Croy
Thats their MO in central scotland – sectarianism wins votes
If we vote NO next September what will happen on….
Student fees
Free prescriptions
Free eye tests
Free travel for the elderly
Frozen Council Tax
Etc
And what would happen to the above if the lapdog of the British New Labour leader Lamont was elected
Indeed bognor – second was a Messi classic.
Game of the weekend is Athletico v Barca @ 7pm. Both tied at top of la Liga on 49 points.
Roseburn Bar, Guinness and gentle banter with the local Jambos .. can’t wait!
Just watched Messi come on as a sub,bang,bang,2 goals after being out for 19 games,
I also like the look of the Getafe away strip,do us instead of all these other away concoctions Nike come up with,
hate being pedantic,but,support is pretty consistent(season book sales),while attendances are not(debate reasons),
re Aberdeen game,closing top tier means I will be sitting in somebody elses seat while they are sitting in mine,nae wonder they need to close tp tier .I think I`ll just sit in front of my TV with a beer,thank you Celtic!.
HH
charliemac
23:00 on 8 January, 2014
Do you regard freezing the council tax as a progressive measure?
Should council spending be cut so that the council tax can be frozen?
weeminger
Fear and scaremongering is the realm of the Daily Mail and the Right.
Utter tosh. Do you want to allay my fears ?
Ernie
Absolutely!!!!
Good luck to those of you who choose to vote Yes. Imo you’ll need it. I cast my vote 50 years ago having gone to London accompanied by a statue of the Sacred heart my mother insisted I take with me. I was put up by the Civil Service in a shared bedsite with a guy from Nottingham. I’m not sure whether he waspuzzled more by what the statue was about or my asking him if he minded me putting it on the mantlepiece. For the first time I’d met someone to whom my religion was of no concern beyond curiousity and so it has been for me ever since. Only on my return to Scotland overthe years did it ever seem to matter and despite having job opportunities over the years the only attraction I had to return was to watch Celtic. Not enough justification to uproot a family!
I am intrigued though by this view that all will be well if independence occurs The SNP will magicallydisappear and be replaced by a liberal radical party and all the ingrained prejudice of past years will vanish. Those of Irish descent and the catholic religion will be protected and respected as a contributor to Scottish Society and all will be well.
As I say good luck as I believe it will be a case of plus ca change for the minority at best. The problem remains endemic in the Scottish physche and removing the SNP will not eradicate it. All my imo of course.
I see that questions about our Club Celtic fc have been asked in Parliament by that Uber Unionist & OO member Gregory Campbell mp seems like a fully co-ordinated attack is the order of the day. To bad he got short shrift with his nonsense
Celtic Football Club
Mr Gregory Campbell: To ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will investigate reports that the Co-operative Bank provided exceptionally low interest rate loans and overdraft facilities to Celtic Football Club. [180784]
6 Jan 2014 : Column 160W
Sajid Javid [holding answer 19 December 2013]: Individual commercial loans are a matter for agreement between the parties concerned.
Don’t know why we’re commenting on the land deal fiasco . I would imagine the clubs law team will be all over this , and not before time they were showing themselves IMHO
croppybhoy
22:50 on
8 January, 2014
That’s a fair point – the LDs took 18.9% so the total for both them and Cons was 35.6%, so 22.7% of the population voted for the coalition parties. So it’s about even in terms of the overall vote. Although that only represented 12 of 59 Scottish Westminster seats. The Lib Dems have had zero influence where it matters and they’ve committed suicide. It remains to be seen whether those that voted for them will do so again. In Scotland I envisage a fair amount moving to SNP actually.
Labour took 41 seats and 26.9% of the population voted for them.
This country wants a socialist Labour party in power but it’s not going to get it. We’ll be saddled with an SNP Scottish Assembly for a long, long time.
My friends in Celtic,
If like myself you believe that the concept of Police Scotland was a political act more concerned with power and control rather than pure economics, then the fact that ministers are discussing dropping the general requirement for corroboration should be of concern.
The convener of the Scottish Parliament’s justice committee, one Christine Grahame was discussing the detail outlined in the Scottish government’s Criminal Justice Bill.
As “Doc” last night stated; this we are told is primarily designed for more convictions in rape, domestic violence etc. This is good.
What is not good is that a purely Scottish safeguard against miscarriages of justice will disappear. In effect more power of conviction will be handled to the police.
From a football perspective ,added to the odious OB act, you can see the obvious dilemma.
When the Scottish legal system is opposed to this, we need to question how and why. Remember it is this same legal system that is preventing many convictions attributable to the OB act.
Will the next discussion be about removing the Sherriff’s or Judges powers in certain cases. ?
Think what we could be about to sleepwalk into.
HH, always in Celtic.
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