There’s always a bit of trepidation before Celtic play a meaningless game, like they will do in Turkey tomorrow, the propensity to pick up injuries feels higher, although this is possibly not borne out by statistics.
Before Sunday the team look like they needed a break but no injuries, please.
It’s been a long time since I’ve heard allegations that some or other council are controlled by, and for the benefit of, an ethnic or religious minority. This is an old-time prejudice, up there along with allegations of criminality or the personal hygiene habits of the minority. But like Corporation buses, they come in groups.
Anyone can report Celtic for whatever they like, and believe me, many do. Which is a great pity, as there are real targets worthy of attention elsewhere….. For years, while others were buying football bling, Celtic were acquiring land, all appropriately, as is their borrowing. More importantly, they have been able to establish all of this without question. Confirmed.
Just because one club was an omni-shambles doesn’t mean any others are. Enjoy the laugh.
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celtic dawn
21:21 on
Did you take out a BT vision subscription, cheapest is about a £5 month. I got it and it’s really good lets you record rewind etc. If not you’ll have to register for sport and get a vision card for your tv/freeview box, think there is a 1 off fee of £10 for the card if you don’t take out Bt Vision.
jude2005 is neil lennon \o/
21:46 on 8 January, 2014
Were you at New Douglas Park last night?
Keep The Faith!
Hail Hail!
Good evening all
A bit off topic…. But is this wierd or what….
@HistoricalPics: One of the craziest things i’ve read. http://t.co/gpnjPMQX4b
Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.
Sometimes, i sit back and think… and i am totally gobsmacked at what has happened over the past 2 years..
Seriously..sit back, take a wee time out, and think about what has happened to them
Watch a dvd of the greatest old firm matches
And think about what happened
Sometimes i cant take it all in…
HH
Snake Plissken
It makes the Orange Nirvana a Hell of a lot simpler…….
Then again we do not have over 200 OO walks in Manchester every year.
We have a week of Irish Culture and Music backed by the Council and a march with 200,000 on the streets .
Robcfc11
21:53
That’s a real salve to my fear……….Edinburgh Jury and all that.
Celtic dawn
I find BT reliable and watch BT sport for free on iPhone and iPad
Am self employed so need reliable connection
Also bought Apple TV which allows me to mirror to TV. 90 quid but love it
Enjoy!
Robcfc11
21:38 on 8 January, 2014
‘you are voting for scotland or you are voting for britain’
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You’re not.
Scotland’s just a piece of land, a chunk of the earth’s crust. Just like Britain. That’s all it is.
What you are indulging in, though you probably don’t realise it, is blood and soil nationalism, something the SNP try to distance themselves from, at least in the public mind.
You want to think about things a bit more deeply.
https://twitter.com/scottg1975/status/421027695448051712/photo/1/large
Superb
snake plissén 21:45
Very emotional post but all the more impact because you care.
I just cannot grasp why so many Tims on this site are prepared to side by side with Tories and the Loyal Orange Order to vote against independence. To vote to keep Trident. To vote to introduce massive costs for our children going to college and uni.
I just don’t get it!
BCW.. Thats fair enough mate. However, will that change post sept 18 ? Will things get better or worse with a yes vote ? Or a no vote ? Nobody knows for sure. I do know that I am sick of being called british. I want my country back. I wonder how many posters on cqn “support” the cause in Ireland and the end game of 1 Ireland but will choose to vote NO on the 18 Sept…. hopefully none..
Evening all
I’ll be voting ‘yes’ in September. I don’t like Salmond or his party that much but I doubt any Scottish First Minister of whatever political stripe would have said come away with anything substantially different from what he did 23 months ago. It would perhaps have been preferrable if a politician had said ‘tough on Rangers but they really should have paid their taxes, carried something approximating due diligence on their new owner and not being an overtly sectarian organisation for a hundred years.’ Brian Wilson would have 33 years ago and many will think it but there were and are a helluva lot of RFC voters out there.
Astonished of forehead that some – most notably the usually estimable Ryecatcher- have criticised the Celtic board for commenting on today’s developments. I’d imagine any PLC is legally obliged to comment on such a potentially damaging story. It would though be preferrable if the board commented on other situations which have arisen in the last 2 years although these events were not something they HAD to respond to by law.
I commented a week ago when this latest tale passed into the public domain and believe the allegations to be rubbish but mud sticks. Even before Alex Thomson’s tripey blog piece it has become a near accepted fact that our support is an out of control Ned Army and even when , as I expect, these allegations are demonstrated as being untrue the prevailing mood here – in Scotland and possibly further afield- will be that Celtic have got ‘away with it and It will become accepted fact that those devious Irish left-footers are crooks.
Sorry to go on – I always do – but I repeat that these are dangerous times for us.
Jimbo67 supporting Oscar Knox
Ernie Lynch
Thank goodness you don’t have a vote
Billy Bhoy
Yes, but slightly less relevant because he doesn’t actually live here and will have to face the economic and social consequences like the rest of us?
There are unsavoury elements on both sides, we all have to make our own choice based on what is best for our families and their futures.
Personally, and independent country without a currency worries me somewhat…
Independence ?
C’mon convince me that Tims will be safe in an independent Scotland. Chance to win a vote ?
ernie lynch
Fair point.
BCW
New parties and new politicians will emerge.
There will be a couple of years transitional period.
We are a rich, diverse, intelligent country. Why can’t we do it without England dictating to us?
In 10, 20, 30 years from now and we don’t grasp this once in a lifetime chance we will never forgive ourselves.
Out kids and grand kids certainly won’t.
I’ve just finished reading “long walk to freedom” about 20 mins ago, has 100% made my mind up to vote yes in September.
Robcfc11
Did the Nationalists vote to be part of the Six counties ?
EDDIEINKIRKMICHAEL Now your confusing me. I got BT broadband for £5/month for 6 months going up to £10 plus line rental of £15/month for that I get call allowances which are irrelevant to me since only Mrs Dawn uses the phone but I am supposed to be getting BT Sport online free.
The Yes case as it appears from posters on here sums up why it is making zero headway with the electorate.
Emotional, unfocused, incoherent, and confused.
Can’t wait till 19 September and hopefully we can all get make to worrying about imprtant things…
ItaliaBhoy
You mean that some of the guys advocating we vote for INDEPENDENCE won’t run the risk of their choice ? SWEARY WORDS.
Sick of people who don’t even live it Scotland tryin to force their own personal opinion on the vote down peoples throats. Easy to say you’d vote for something that doesn’t effect you an let others face consequences of the vote
Gene’s a Bhoy’s name @19.50 hrs.
“Have we landed anybody yet?”
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On the moon; Are you having a laugh.
HH, conspiracytheoriescsc.
Ernie.. thanks for the advice but I have to disagree with you. This vote for many people will be about blood and soil nationslism. Its about the land that is scotland. Its about our right to govern ourselves after a handful of people sold us out over 300 years ago. Its about national identity. I want to be part of the generation who lived in such interesting times that saw the imperialistic rangers die and the lights being put out on the union that I despise.
I have thought deeply about this for a lot of my life :)
Thos guys over at FF have got us sussed, heres an example of where GCC have favoured Celtic
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Re: Examples of Where and When GCC has Favoured Celtic
Take it all the way back when they were handed the keys to the NATIONAL STADIUM, not a ground share but the country’s National Stadium,
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Forget the cool half a million wee Fergus had to stump up!
Billy Bhoy 05
22:03 on 8 January, 2014
I appreciate that the nats are an intolerant and authoritarian bunch and would prefer to suppress any form of dissent but I don’t think they have as yet decided to prevent those who don’t agree with them from voting.
Let’s be honest though, the outcome is a foregone conclusion. The nats know it and what they are doing now is aligning themselves for what happens after the referendum. Bear that and mind when watching what they are saying and doing. It’s fascinating.
Have I stumbled upon a politics site?
The nationalists are always doing this, it rips my knitting.
Can you not take your myopic navel gazing insular guff somewhere else and leave us argue about football?
Many thanks.
Robcfc11
22:11 on 8 January, 2014
‘Ernie.. thanks for the advice but I have to disagree with you. This vote for many people will be about blood and soil nationslism. ‘
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I’m only too aware that it’s about blood and soil nationalism. It’s not me that denies that, it’s the SNP.
Blood and soil nationalism doesn’t have a great track record.
Ernie, I think Sturgeon devoting an entire speech to demanding answers from Cameron on what would happen in the event of a No vote was very revealing.
If she was confident of a result that speech would never be made.
BCW.. I need to get back to you on that question.. the wee bird with the big impressive(ahem) lungs on big brother keeps distracting me….
Bawsman
22:14 on 8 January, 2014
Agreed.
ItaliaBhoy
22:16 on 8 January, 2014
Sturgeon would be in poll position to tackle Salmond. That’s why he put her in charge of the referendum campaign. So she would be tarnished by failure.
Notthebus
Doesn’t suit the agenda
Facts are irrelevant
Those who don’t understand why many on here will vote no should ask themselves the following questions
We are told that once independent the SNP will become irrelevant
Do they really think that AS will simply shuffle off in to the sunset?
Or will he want to be a big player in the new Scotland?
My bet is on the latter
If that’s correct what will he want to do – do the romantic socialists amongst us think that AS is a latter day Fidel?
Thought not! – so who will he turn to for his next big project?
RCs – who make up a small minority or the loyalist groupings who share many of the mindset of those bigots in the rest of Scotland – you know the ones that don’t really exist except in our imagination!
Catholics need to wake up and smell the coffee – in the last week alone we have seen a prosecution that should have been an open and shut case result in a bigot walking free after threatening our manager!
Today we see the result of a concerted attack on our club making it all the way to Brussels
That’s the sort of people that AS will be costing up to in an independent Scotland – anyone who thinks differently is deluding themselves
Delusion is not an option for a minority- history suggests that minorities need to look out for themselves – the best way of doing that is looking at what is really happening rather than hoping something will change in the future!
HH
Ernie.. SNP, Labour, Tories etc all tell us whatever they think it takes to get votes.. I am not so easily fooled but as I stated, I am voting for an ideal that will hopefully be with the people of scotland forever… I am not voting for the SNP
celtic dawn
22:08 on
Yes you will automatically get BTsport online. I was just pointing out that BT also provide a service called BTvion which is basically a freeview service with a record feature. We find it useful as we can set it to record complete series etc.
If you get a HDMI cable you can stream the online sport from your laptop to your tv, I usually do this with Celtic away games that are streamed on the net.
Italia Bhoy
Except here are the key things.
They HAVE told us which currency we’ll use – the pound. If we are somehow told we can’t well Scotland has zero debt then. If the London exchequer want to do without Scotland’s balance of payments then more fool them.
What was it Captain Darling called the Sterling zone? ‘Sensible and desirable’?
My personal preference is for a Scottish currency tagged to sterling and in the interim we use Sterling.
It won’t be easy but it will be possible and once you stand or fall by your own endeavours you can at least look yourself in the mirror and be an adult as opposed to a little brother or a little dog being kept and led everywhere.
PLEASE STOP with this EU tripe.
The whole thing could QUITE EASILY be settled. Salmond has asked often enough to go to Brussels with Cameron to get a definitive answer as the only things the people you put forward as some kind of authority say are opinions, not definitive positions and no mechanism exists to kick us out.
Why doesn’t he do it? Draw your own and the only realistic conclusion. It suits the UK to keep the issue hidden in the dark just as they have hidden SO much from us in the past from McCrone to Thatcher stripping money slowly from Scotland in the 80’s while trying to convince us having oil is bad for Scotland.
Rajoy is in league with Cameron in London trying to head off his own on coming referendum on Catalonia and if the clown thought he could veto us here are a few points –
1. We’re still in the EU on November 19th regardless
2. We (like Salmond and Sturgeon said) can negotiate from within because of point 1
3. Kicking out Scotland from the EU means Spain’s fishermen lose their rights to fish in our waters so that’s a clever move – how will their industry do then?
4. What will the Germans say when they are told they’ll need to get their oil from elsewhere?
5. Rajoy talked about regions – Scotland is not a region, it is a country unlike Catalonia which I would imagine but correct me if I am wrong you’d support gaining it’s independence.
My guess? Germany will tell Spain to get in line if they start any nonsense and that will be that.
There will be negotiations but which terms would Scotland be forced to agree to?
Schengen when we’re an Island? Laughable.
The Euro? Very doubtful and even if we make a commitment to join plenty others have done so and plenty have not yet got it – Czech Republic, Poland, Serbia, Croatia, Romania and Bulgaria and don’t forget Sweden are NOT on the Euro and if we argue our case properly neither will we be.
Immigration? Well how would that differ? We’re forever told we’ll be a financial basket case so why would anyone want to come to Scotland (if you’re against immigration). On the other hand if you are pro-immigration we’re always told that we have an ageing population and we need new blood so either way, win win.
The EU want to expand not reduce and if they are desperate to bring in the Ukraine, they’ll want the country with 25% of renewable energy, tonnes of the fishing area and the most oil and gas as well as the biggest export from these shores in Whisky and of course the best tourism industry and surplus farming (not to mention all the power we can supply). There’s your economy right there.
It can be done.
These ARE proper politics. The stakes here are so high that the No does not bear thinking about.
YES are pointing out the very real chances that things will go to form if we stay in the union. We can draw on our experiences of history post 1979 and the decimation that came thereafter because of the skulduggery of the Labour Party in that referendum.
The chance to try something new and build a better place to live OR the inevitable ripping up of the systems you know with no power to affect or change it?
YES is the only real choice. I fear for Scotland if we vote no. That’s the real project fear.
It’s just a pity there wasn’t 13 years of a Labour government with huge majorities to right all the wrongs of 18 years of Tory rule with the ability to change Thatcher’s key policies in stead of continuing them and they’d never have had a chancellor who actually could out-Thatcher Thacher because they speak for the people of Scotland right?
Wake up people. Before it is too late.
Sept 19th and important things
Daughter no2’s birthday :-)