A proposed swap deal with Blackburn with Shane Duffy coming to Glasgow and James Forrest heading south makes sense for Celtic. Late last season we were talking about how Erik Sviatchenko was our only solid central defender, with Jozo Simunovic injured and yet to establish himself.
Duffy made his Euro 16 debut in the 1-0 win over Italy, before being red carded for a professional foul against France. I’m not expecting a van Dijk, but his performances in both games was of the standard Celtic only have with Erik.
James Forrest grabbed the space vacated by Aiden McGeady’s move to CSKA Moscow and made the most of the opportunity but injury has inhibited him in recent years. He’s also suffered from being part of what looked like a World Record attempt of squeezing wingers into a 23-man squad. We need fewer wingers and at least one more central defender.
Brendan Rodgers comments that Kris Commons is nowhere near ready for the first team is not encouraging. I’d have him limp to the bench for the forthcoming qualifiers. Even unfit, he’s capable of linking play like no one else in the squad.
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Auld Tam on 19th July 2016 9:39 am
Some people assuming that a lack of movement on Shane Duffy means he’s not interested. I read somewhere that the day after he arrived home from the Euros, Duffy and his family went off on a well-earned holiday.
No matter how hard you look, you’ll be hard-pushed to find any reports of EURO 2016 players being involved in transfer deals, Ibrahimivic excepted. They’re all on beaches.
I expect Duffy to be signed very soon.
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La Liga sides are in pre season training as of Monday – Euros or no Euros Barca and Man Utd for example have got a few deals done. Umtiti, Digne, Ibra, the winger from Dortmund, Bailly(?) from Villarreal.
I’d expect us to have a couple in for the next round, subject to qualification etc
But its true that its not a stretch to say that its hard to fault the club for believing we have more than enough to progress past this qualifying round, despite the wake up call last week…
HH
TIMALOY29 SLEEPS ON THE HEATED DRIVEWAY on 19TH JULY 2016 10:11 AM
Open to correction. I believe that John Clark was Celtic’s first ever sub.
Moaned plenty about them. Glad to see ads gone.
It sort of makes me laugh but mostly just makes me sad when I see a rerun of the same old familiar excuses trotted out by those on this site.
Celtic have no intention of soending much money. They are operating a moneyball strategy and BR will have to play ball with that. It’s a failed pathetic strategy but the Celtic support (en masse it seems ) where suckered into believing the strategy had changed with the arrival of BR.
We are fools.
An of course we now hear that it’s too hard, players and agents are on holiday, we must wait for BR to have a look at the squad.
Blah de blah blah.
Same old crap excuses. Same result.
Law well and DD will be laughing at our stupidity. They get their diva and massive bonuses while Celtic burn.
My god the Huns have strengthened more than we have and they managed to utterly humiliate us last season.
So more ritual humiliation this season then, it’s already started with the utterly shameful defeat to the imps.
Meanwhile of course the farcical wrestling like Scottish football shambles on, pretending nothing happened and ready to inflict racism upon us. Our board say and do nothing and have now it seems screwed res12.
Perhaps our more than a club mantle can be compared to refusing to pay the living wage and now offering zero hours contracts? Doesn’t that make you all proud?
That we haven’t really strengthened ahead of the cl qualififiers AGAIN says it all. A massive increase in season book sales as we all return to old firm mode isn’t enough for law well and co.
He must be licking his lips at his next big bonus eh?
What fools we are.
I see the North Brit Unionists are cacking it again at the sheer inevitability of a second indy ref in 2017, because they know what the result will be. Hilarious.
M @ 10.06
PL is to blame for our current problems.
The only area where he has succeeded is the efforts he has put in to secure his bonus.
He has put in place terrible managers.
He has turned the club into a selling club to fund the Cashflow that supports his bonus.
He has allowed the purchase of a whole series of agent friendly diddies to fill our squad with non performing strikers at a huge cost to us — both to buy and then to get rid of.
We are paying big money to watch the team.
And we have been rewarded by 8 years of decline and stagnation interrupted by 2 CL campaigns.
File under not good enough.
B.M.C.U.W
Thanks that was a really nice phone call bud.
Went to game on sat I took mygrandson with me,
We were talking about the eatery in the main stand
Nothing has changed the food is very poor toilets
Are a disgrace speak to you later bud H.H.
HOT SMOKED on 19TH JULY 2016 9:00 AM
Auld Tam
I have always assumed that the double `d` in ` Scoddish` was simply to reflect the way some people pronounce it. Possibly those of a Hunnish persuasion as it I believe it is usually used in a derogatory fashion on CQN.
JJ
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That’s correct – just reflects the affected drawl used by the business-class Hun to make them sound intellectually superior, well-traveled and worldly-wise – the Alastair Johnston type (in fact, this is not exclusively a Hun trait – I’ve experienced it from the ‘big-business’ Tim too).
HH
BGFC
Thanks for the explanations re Scoddish.
I am now thinking Denis Law.
:-)
AULD TAM 1017
Oh,I’ve no doubt that Scotland will vote for a split in an imminent referendum.
I am very concerned about the medium and long-term outcome of it. For reasons I have already stated.
AT @ 10.19
IndyRef2 will fail.
The economic Nats will take cold feet and the arguments against will be even greater.
Emotion will get more yes votes but overall the numbers will fall.
Why do you think St Nic is being so guarded — she knows the numbers.
The anti English mentalists / true believers are frothing at mouth to try again.
No wonder we lost at Solway Moss and Flodden.
NEGANON2 on 19TH JULY 2016 10:18 AM
Moneyball has nothing to do with making money.
Moneyball was a strategy employed by a team with less money to get better players. It’s all to do with results on the field.
BMCW @ 10.27
The 2014 voting blocks will split every way if IndyRef2 is called in 2017.
We are looking at full on EU membership with the Euro as the Nat alternative.
The economics will swing a lot of Economic Nats either to abstain or vote No.
Plus buyers remorse will be out in the open before the vote.
Quonno
Willie o neil was our first sub, against killie I think
TOMMIE20
The pleasure was entirely mine,old bean! Genuinely.
It’s great that you’re introducing new blood to The Hoooooooops,just tell him that Parkhead pies are a tradition.
You wouldn’t give them to your worst enemy!
As he gets older,you might wish to tell him that their only use is to remove a policeman’s helmet from a good thirty yards. Your shout,that-there’s CCTV nowadays!!!!
I’ll call you same time next week,if you’re around-and if it suits. If you’re not around,I’ll leave a message. A polite one,normally I just tell the person to answer the bliddy phone…
HH,guid Tim.
I see auld greeting face lecturing us all again with his repetitive dish water,
Ma ane fault for reading it I suppose.
wingsoverscotland.com/our-friends-in-europa/
Hopefully this link works. After listening to Theresa May yesterday, Im out. I’d drifted away from the SNP towards Corbyn, but now see independence in europe as the only solution to neocon madness.
The link is a counter to the daily mail, the sun, argument about scotland being denied a place in the EU. Looks very much like if we have a ref before brexit, we will continual unbroken membership of EU. Get it up you project fear.
Timaloy29 not the Celtic version. The Celtic version was getting in prospects and selling them to make money. Team building wasn’t even a thought. Results on the park irrelevant.
Madmitch
Pl
Never turned us into a selling club , football economics did that re: sky’s ridiculous backing of English football to the detriment of European football, much in the same way minty did in Scotland in the nineties
MADMITCH
Solway Moss?
Wisnae much of a battle,only about forty or so killed. Disaster for the forty of course.
More of a tiff between families,really.
Anyway,more importantly…
£100 million NIB?
What is that,please? I can usually decipher your stuff,but that’s due to the proximity of GCHQ to Swindon(!)
MADMITCH on 19TH JULY 2016 10:19 AM
M @ 10.06
“PL is to blame for our current problems.”
Not solely. You can’t blame all Celtic’s problems on the boogy man.
“He has put in place terrible managers.”
PL does not appoint the managers. He gives recommendations to the board but they are the ones who make the decision. Ultimately, it’s been DD’s decision since he appointed MON.
Ronny wasn’t great but to be fair, he wasn’t brought in to be first team coach originally. Neil Lennon left the club in the lurch because he thought he could get better money down south.
Don’t believe the “lack of ambition” tripe Lennon put out at the time. He was desperate to be Celtic coach this year. Why? Because his career prospects have dwindled and he’s ended up at Hibs.
“He has turned the club into a selling club to fund the Cashflow that supports his bonus.”
To a certain extent, all clubs are selling clubs. The bosman ruling has ensured that players hold the cards and they can run their contracts down.
“He has allowed the purchase of a whole series of agent friendly diddies to fill our squad with non performing strikers at a huge cost to us — both to buy and then to get rid of.”
Like who?
Thanks for the tips for the Ayr races yesterday lads, in fortunately none came up, but I backed a nice 5/1 shot to win and got 10/11 for a place on it too, so that one pulled me out of the hole, went into the track with £106:60 in my pp account, and came out with £105:60, so a good day was had by all, hame and in my kip for 11:30 pm, loonngggg day, but great fun, and a laugh, that’s what it’s all about :)
Auld tam. The drive for nationalism is one where emotion is used to ignore consequence. Using terms like noth Brit unionists is really rather pathetic but it’s another example of be
Titling those who want to understand consequence.
Wee Nicola is not dumb enough to push hard for the next neverendum, she does not have the numbers in parliament to start with, lose that vote and she is a busted flush. Political opportunist yes, stupid, no.
Mats Niloc, she should be forced to answer all of the questions you posted at 09.52
Without guarantees on currency and central bank it is a complete non starter. She refused to answer those questions when she was tackled by Andrew Marr a couple of weeks ago after the Brexit vote, shes’s a political fantasist.
BMCUW
Goooooooooooooooooooood morning :))))
and the rest of you aswell :)))))))))))))))))
The reality of money in football is that China, USA, India, and other massive population centres will eventually leave the EPL with dross players in the future. When Asia and even England turns to the Chinese league where the future greats will be playing, the EPL money will go down.
NEGANON2 on 19TH JULY 2016 10:35 AM
Timaloy29 not the Celtic version. The Celtic version was getting in prospects and selling them to make money. Team building wasn’t even a thought. Results on the park irrelevant.
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Complain about the Celtic strategy all you want but Moneyball has nothing to do with Celtic’s strategy.
Statistical analysis for identifying transfer targets is now commonplace anyway.
TM29 @ 10.39
Is your memory that short?
Try 5 out of the last 7.
Celtic football companion
03rd Sept 1966
League cup section game 6
St mirren 0
Celtic 1
Bobby Murdoch 53min
Willie O’Neill sub for Jimmy Johnstone
Willie O’Neill was celtic’s first competitive game substitute .
MADMITCH on 19TH JULY 2016 10:45 AM
TM29 @ 10.39
Is your memory that short?
Try 5 out of the last 7.
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I know that we’ve signed some poor strikers. However, I’m not familiar with the agent in question.
I know that this Dudu Dahan or whatever has been behind a few signings but I wasn’t aware any of them were related to strikers.
A couple of Wee sweery words, but he’s bang on.
Lurking Huns and level 5s little helpers in here GIRFUYs
https://paddyontherailway.wordpress.com/2016/07/19/another-bear-caught-cheating/
£100 billion National Investment Bank.
Split the Treasury finances into Current spending and Investment spending.
Consequently the books would be balanced sometime in 2018 or 19.
Investment would then have a visibility it currently does not have.
Happy to build hospitals and roads on tick as a matter of policy.
3% return to the OAP’s who now have all the cash.
Building something for their grand children’s future.
I think EB was working on this pre 2015.
Didn’t want to shout too loudly in case the Tories stole the idea.
In addition there was always the interest money sitting with the BoE to get things started.
Masty yeah sure. It was sky that did it and ran away. Funny how other clubs outside of England seem to still be able to buy and sell players and how teams with much less money than us are able to turf us out of the CL.
It’s all sky’s fault. Belter.
CM @ 10.35
Indy in what type of EU?
What will be left as a working community in 2020 / 2025?
Italy and France are very shaky looking towards the medium term.
Personally, I think the only way the SNP would call for another independence referendum is if they had a fast track EU membership deal in place. Or some form of certainty regarding this. Debatable whether this is even achievable and certainly not by 2017.
However, since the last the referendum, we have had a Tory majority elected in the General Election and an EU referendum which will pull Scotland out of the EU. The Labour party appears terminally ill and the Lib Dems are all but finished. Putting aside the economic argument, this has created democratic crisis in Scotland, voters up here are helpless to the will of the English electorate and people are not happy with the status quo. Perhaps the SNP would risk it on this alone. Is this enough to deliver a Yes vote? Personally, I don’t think so…but events recently…who knows anymore…shaking my head in disbelief seems to be a regular occurrence in the times we live in.
Independence is jumping off a cliff but Brexit means we have already jumped.
I don’t know which is better for the people of Scotland, Indy2 or Brexit. I think either option means some tough years ahead of us. All very worrying when you are trying to build a career and raise a young family.
Let’s start getting the world back normal by not getting put out of Europe by a semi pro team from Gibraltar!
PS. Under Rodgers I think we will see Armstrong flourish!
LEFTCLICKTIC
Morning Lefty:))
HH
Never in a month of Sunday’s will Spain allow Scotland to join the EU. It would be the catalyst for Spain’s own fragmentation.
If a neverendum is eventually called then We will be voting for Scotland to be truely independent.
HH.
GREENPINATA on 19TH JULY 2016 11:07 AM
If it’s seen as desirable by the big guns of the EU, it is likely Spain would be ‘persuaded’.