Celtic were careless in possession throughout this game but it would be wrong to suggest it was a lackadaisical performance, if anything the champions were hurried in possession when a bit more composure and patience was required.
The Dundee United goal came as a result of poor defending. United won a corner on Celtic’s right which was taken short before the cross came in. Scott Robertson met the ball 7 yards from goal and placed a header into the corner of the net giving Fraser Forster no chance.
Celtic enjoyed the majority of possession throughout the game but failed to make anything of it before going behind, however, Kris Commons soon sparked into life. On 29 minutes Gary Hooper knocked the ball down to Commons who fired in a shot which was deflected wide.
Commons then fed Hooper whose shot from 25 yards was spilled by Pernis in the United goal. The final seconds of the first half should have led to a Celtic goal. Commons’ shot from outside the box was saved by Pernis but United could not clear the chance and when the ball broke back to Commons he fired a cross along the six yard line which Anthony Stokes completely missed with an empty goal in front of him.
The second half was most notable for the procession of ineffective cross balls Celtic threw into the Dundee United box. With Charlie Mulgrew playing in central defence his delivery from wide positions was badly missed.
Tony Watt replaced Stokes at half time and immediately stirred things up, forcing Pernis into a good save from a header soon after the break. Within a minute he forced another save which Pernis could only parry.
While Mulgrew was missed on the wing he twice blocked shots which could have put United two ahead. MacKay-Steven crossed for Jon Daly who was denied by Mulgrew while late in the game the Celtic defender halted a Jonny Russell effort.
Gary Hooper put Celtic’s best chance of the game inches wide after Kris Commons (again) linked play to set him up for a shot inside the box.
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Joe Filippis Haircut on 6 May, 2012 at 17:03 said:
Stairheedrammy. I would not expect you to give up supporting Celtic its up to every individual supporter to make up his or her mind all I was saying is that the football authorities should think long and hard before they elect a Newco.Rangers to start up in the SPL.I honestly believe we are at a genuine cross roads for Scottish football and the decision has huge importance.H.H.
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My sentiments exactly.If it unfolds in they way we have all predicted.the baws burst.
I’ll always have Celtic in my heart and forever will be a supporter.
However, This will just be too much to take.Next Thursday could also be my last time, but we shall wait and see what developes from this whole sorry affair.
Gordybhoy64,you would need a weekend alone to keep up with the Vmhan.It’s his wife ambition to come to Derry and get to another bar other than Tracys..
Oh dear Margaret…
You really are showing your true colours now.
I grew up with loving parents in a perfectly normal family.
HUN
Mick11. I think there will be very many heavy hearted Celtic fans if we have to walk away from our beloved Celtic.However there allways will be a straw the breaks the camels back and those cheating huns being let of lightly is that straw for me and I suspect many others.H.H.
Alex Thomson pulls no punches
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/time-leadership-scottish-football/1392
Margaret McGill on 6 May, 2012 at 17:18 said:
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now,people here will tell me if i’ve gone too far & i accept it as constructive criticism and i think about what i’ve said. now,it’s an indictment of society that there are battered women, and it can be acceptable to use that as an analogy, but to say to bunburyboy that it’s “too close to home and too close to the bone?” is a bit nasty,don’t you think?
i’m not standing up for him…he can do that himself.
i simply regard what you are saying as a wee bit too much for me.
just a feeling,y’know?
bunburybhoy on 6 May, 2012 at 17:23 said:
Me too. Hun? No I dont think so. I hope Celtic use this opportunity to at least get rid of their vanguard their symbol as they are the peepil. Some tims thinks it s ok to still have them around so they can have someone to hate.
Like you.
Alex Thomson
So now the dust has slightly settled and we are on the eve of another Scottish Premier League vote (barring another postponement), let us strip away all the froth and hype and see where we really are.
On Thursday, Ibrox was a deeply bizarre place. Over the phone Rangers tried to make out their “press conference” was for “sports reporters only”. Even over the phone they quickly realised from my incredulity, this was a non-starter.
So we got a “press diktat” instead. It’s a press conference where they read at you from a prepared statement and you are not allowed questions. A press conference without the conference, if you like.
The charming Ba’athist thugs in Baghdad used to do this in the 90s, I recall. Bosnian Serb commanders likewise. Congolese child-soldier commanders do it. Duff & Phelps did themselves no favours. Of course, they’re neither criminals nor mass murderers. But questions were banned, the Rangers press officer said, “Because we don’t want this turning into a circus.”
So why do Rangers FC and Duff & Phelps think the normal rules of a press conference are a “circus”?
I suggest because of all the difficult questions they cannot answer.
They cannot explain how the Old Rangers company will somehow be “cleaned up” when it is left, toxic, mired in debt and – according to three insolvency experts I’ve now spoken to – inevitably heading for liquidation by the back door.
They cannot explain how a club banned from European football for three years, and with a one-year player-buying ban, is supposed to retain its key players who can – and very likely will – move elsewhere in the summer.
Nothing was said of the Sky/ESPN Premier League TV deal. SPL boss Neil Doncaster says it’s up for renegotiation this summer, but four Old Firm fixtures are the lynchpin of it.
So how does the shiny new, non-toxic Rangers team fulfil that next season? They’d have to stay up there with Celtic in the top half of the league with their squad of well-motivated 17-year-olds and has-beens.
So what will Sky/ESPN want? Equally, why should anyone in Scottish football listen or let them dictate the game?
Answer? Money. And if anything represents Oscar Wilde’s definition of the cynic as a man who knows the price of everything but the value of nothing right now, it’s Scottish football with its Glasgow media cheerleaders.
Consider Michael Johnston, chairman of Kilmarnock FC, who is quoted by the BBC as saying: “Members (of the SPL) see the commercial benefits of having Rangers, even as a newco. The clubs are mindful of a sporting integrity aspect but the commercial benefits may outweigh that.”
That is, Scottish football clubs know there’s a thing called integrity out there but it’s money that matters. What a world you are in, Mr Johnston.
Of course, it’s turkeys and Christmas and all that, and if club chairmen see an escape route for Rangers after their catastrophic lack of financial fair play (yes, financial fair play, Mr Platini and Uefa), then such kid-glove treatment will also come their way when they’re in trouble (as several clubs are).
And what of Craig Whyte? We speak frequently, though as yet off the record.
In all our dealings he has remained adamant that, as the major shareholder, he wants a return. Clearly, Bill Miller is openly antagonistic to Craig Whyte personally and financially – the Miller plan is designed to squeeze Whyte out. Put two and two together and you can quickly work out how all this is playing chez Whyte.
So be in no doubt, huge obstacles are being ignored in public by the administrators of Rangers, Duff & Phelps, who never mentioned by name either Craig Whyte or the major creditors, Ticketus or (incredibly) the taxman, in their press-diktat on Thursday at Ibrox. Funny, that.
So here, with apologies to Jonathan Swift, is A Modest Proposal. Crazy, I know, but I’m going to imagine a world where Scottish football is about sport, sporting values – integrity, morality, justice – all the kinds of things people care so much about in Scotland but see so little debated in their media.
The Scottish media, many clubs and all kinds of powerful voices seem to want Rangers kept in the Premier League at all costs. Life itself appears untenable without this. To any outsider, looking beyond money, this is ludicrous. Why?
If Rangers lost the (currently unmentioned) Big Tax Case, what’s the point of staying, without European football, with a wrecked squad in the SPL?
Why not (assuming by some miracle the Miller idea even works) opt to start with the new Rangers (Newco) at the bottom of the Scottish football league and work your way back?
Thus Rangers would be morally unimpeachable. They’d send a memorable message that Scottish football has, after all, got integrity. Newco and Oldco “cleaned up” at a stroke. Uefa proud, delighted and trumpeting the Rangers stance to Fifa and beyond.
Moreover, if my Scottish football-watchers are right, they’d be back at or near SPL status around the expiry of the Uefa ban. They’d attract new, affordable young talent whose agents would sniff European competition just around the corner.
So what if the TV deal goes into the ground? Either Scottish football runs Scottish football or the toxic hand of Rupert Murdoch does? Time to decide.
Were I a Rangers fan, were this my beloved Newcastle United, I’d be actively campaigning for this. The way to cleanse Rangers, cleanse Scottish football and cleanse big sporting governance in this country. The way for fans who don’t walk away to stay with a club they – and all of us – would be rightly proud of.
Or fight on, toxic, tainted and hated in the SPL – a club without an ounce of sporting integrity, helped back in by others who see only money and the short-term.
And likely the cause of significant fan protest and boycotts as well.
The choice for Rangers, football governance, sport and – yes – politics in Scotland is obvious. If Rangers really is “part of the fabric of Scottish life” as First Minister Alex Salmond says, let that fabric be about values supremely, not money.
Sport celebrates competition – business seeks to eliminate it.
This is the time for leadership, from Scottish football’s governing bodies, from the chairmen of the SPL clubs – but above all from Rangers Football Club.
As yet, I see little sign of leadership emerging, of men who see values, not just figures.
You dont have to go to the games to support Celtic.
If that was the case we’d only have 60,000 fans at most, less depending on who we were playing.
If I chose not to renew my book next year I’ll still be a Celtic fan, always have been always will be.
I was still a Celtic fan back in the early 90’s when I and thousand’s of other’s realised the only way to get rid of the White’s/Kelly’s and save our club was to stop going to Celtic Park.
Who know’s if the internet was about then and the arguement that’s happening just now about not going to watch means your not a fan, influenced the unofficial boycotts at the time, maybe the W/K’s wouldn’t have been removed in time and this discussion wouldn’t be taking place, as we’d have gone bust.
There are hundred’s of thousand’s of Celtic fan’s in the world who don’t go to games, Their all still part of the Celtic family.
As far as I’m aware no decision by any Celt has been made yet, same as no decision on the newhunco has been made yet.
But…
This is the biggest decision ever in Scottish football.
The suits who make it better not judge the feelings of supporters up and down Scotland wrongly or the game here is a bogey……..
margarethun
I don’t hate anyone…
Can’t do…
It was the way I was brought up
Ok I’ll change that to support Celtic by being in attendance.
BJMAC
Thanks for the prompt… :-)
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The Old Firmists are letting themselves down with thier behaviour. Not very brotherly. Celtic have done nothing wrong yet. They legitimise A once in a lifetime process of keeping hun newco in the SPL then they will have played a bit part in the death of sporting integrity and any notion of a level playing field OFFICIALLY FFS and done so knowingly. An away day boycott compared to the TV deal is obviously worthwhile.
I have been fighting the good fight my whole life but maybe it is con.
Certainly looks like it
Luckily I can move on and tell my family in Scotland Celtic FC is only interested in our money. Not our pride. Not our identity but moronic immoral turnstile fodder who will not take a stance. That is the social grouping you want your children to avoid.
Why should anyone outside the old firm mentality still accept it so meekly ?
I am slowly coming to the conclusion that the old firm and anyone who willingly associates and props it up is not worth fighting for.
I can live without it COMPLETELY when that is what is being presented.
It is 100% hunnish.
Hell Hell
Margaret McGill on 6 May, 2012 at 17:27 said:
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maggie,you’re descending into incoherency now! lol
and HH! by the way.
If Celtic do not do everything in their power to stop a Newco (and making a judgement on that is another matter) why would anyone complain about the behaviour of RFC IA over the past decades or in the future?
One – their crimes cannot have been so horrendous and/or
Two – “we need them for the sake of Scottish football.”
If one is true then Celtic is just ‘tiresome’, to quote George Peat.
If one is not true then ‘let justice prevail though the heavens fall.’
If two is true then if Celtic needs Scottish football and Scottish football needs them then Celtic needs them unless the link between Celtic and Scottish football can be broken.
If two is untrue then what’s the excuse except money? As one poster (apologies I can’t remember your name) said (and I paraphrase) – sporting integrity and commercial greed are not a balancing act, they are a choice.
I, like I am sure many others, am waiting to see what pans out, and will make my decision when it is clear what has happened but the silence of Celtic while the Rangers Footballing Criminals and other clubs make their positions clearer is concerning.
Estimates of the hit should the wrong decision be take are guesstimates but mine is that much fewer than 10,000 – 15,000 will walk away. Instead the haemorrhage will be longer but with the same result. If the game is so bent as to forgive and condone the criminals then the crimes will continue and having had the opportunity to do something about it and failed many will get sick of it in their own god time.
This is all speculation and I will wait before making a decision as I am sure many others will. I am willing to bend over backwards to see Celtic’s actions in the best possible light but I won’t go so far as to fall over. Some weeks ago I suggested the Supporters Associations of all SPL clubs should put out a joint statement. I hope that this and other ideas are not too late to be actioned and have an effect.
Who imvented the term “the old firm”? I can’t abide it.
It lumps us in with Bigot F.C. Unacceptable.
It is the writing of an educated man that I read Alex Thomson who can say what I would love to be able to say.However,I was not blessed with his talent I suggest everyone in Scottish football should read his article.It lays out the current situation very clearly indeed.H.H.
bunburybhoy on 6 May, 2012 at 17:32 said:
Me neither. So. One way to prevent the type of hunnery in Scotland or at least remove/delay their symbol of hatred would be no Newco in the SPL. I didnt see a Newco Gretna nor a Newco Airdrie yet I hear many CQN’rs state that they dont care about the huns its all Celtic Celtic Celtic which is fine by me. But to allow Newco Huns back in for commercial reasons at the expense of sporting integrity is akin to battered wife syndrome for Celtic in my opinion.
Margaret:
Fear not, I expect Kojo will be along soon to offer his support and approval…
…sigh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en-GB&client=mv-google&v=2ot_katYYiU
For me the Herald article today is, and should be, welcomed by all.
I hope every word in it is accurate. That Rangers NewCo will be legally immune from football punishment. That is good news, as far as I’m concerned. Because we are now at the point where all the nonsense is stripped away, where this is now naked and brazen and staring everyone in the face.
There should no longer be any talk about “punishments”. Half-hearted nonsense like that has held this debate back from being conducted in the proper way. We, everyone on this site, and everyone in the Celtic Family, knows full well that the so-called punishments being mooted are a joke.
If Rangers NewCo is allowed back into the SPL next season, they have gotten away with a £100 million fraud, not to mention their affronts to football and their blatant violations of the rules.
The SPL punishments are a nonsense. They amount to handing out littering fines in a war zone. No points deduction will hurt a club which might already be in free-fall. No financial penalties will be more damaging than a three year European ban, and none of those things will add up to how much they have defrauded the tax-payer over years without count.
“Sporting penalties” are a misnomer when the very notion of sport itself has been ignored. No penalty will convince me they did not “get away with it.”
So the SPL chairmen go into that meeting on the back of this legal advice, and now they know exactly what they are voting for.
The clean slate. The complete fraud. The blatant corruption of the Scottish game. No more half measures, no more compromises, no more hiding in the Hall of Mirrors pretending Rangers have been “punished.”
Time to tell it like it is. This is a Get out of Jail Free card.
And finally, the debate can be held without pretending it’s otherwise.
Deary me we’re accused of ‘hunnish behaviour’ because we chose to continue our support of Celtic.
It’s all about personal choice but huns we ain’t.
Hamiltontim
You seem to think that attendance is possible for everyone and that if you cannot attend you are somehow a diminished Celtic fan. That is very insulting to the worldwide diaspora and hunnish. I am sure you agree.
Hell Hell
Sorry to hear so many of you are ready to walk away- I know you will still support Celtic- though only in spirit. To my mind you are punishing our club- if it comes to this- and you dont really know what they have done behind the scenes, one way or the other. My view is that we punish everyone else- no away games, no cup semi or finals and no TV deals, and that we make sure we let them know why.
Hamilton Tim
Hear ye…but this site is gettin a wee bit mental these days…
Or as Jimmy says in Goodfellas…..
“A little bit outta order…a little bit outta line”
It’s a family affair, it’s a family affair
It’s a family affair, it’s a family affair
bunburybhoy on 6 May, 2012 at 17:44 said:
You forgot the most important quote from Goodfellas…
“Pay me my money!”
Stairheedrammy,…I am not walking away to punish our club for lack of trying on this matter.
I will not put any more money into a league that compromises fairness and integrity.
Well, if unpunishable & blatant fraud & corruption are to be openly touted as the way forward, where then are we going?
Is this just ‘the way it is’ now?
” All that it takes for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing. “
Awe naw
Genuine apologies if that was the way it came across, that is not what I meant.
Do you believe I’m guilty of hun behaviour because I’ll continue to follow Celtic?
As long as you dinny leave the country x 2
Hell Hell
Surely as Celtic supporters we should be able to air our point of view on a Celtic blog without personal attack? I dont expect everyone to share my point of view and just as many of you say its to painfull for you to give up supporting Celtic which I understand.However, if Newco.Rangers start in the SPL it will be to painfull for me to continue to follow Scottish football so please give your point of view with a reasoned arguement but please do not fall to the level of insulting each other we are all special we are Celtic supporters.H.H.
It’s now at the stage that I scroll past so many posts that I end up with Aw Naw…………..and of course Hamiltontim:o)
hamiltontim
You support Celtic any way you like!
You live in Scotland and you are able to follow your team home and away.
Whenever you like.
Hun?
You are a feckin legend!
God bless you and yours!
Sorry lads, by not renewing your season ticket its Celtic who will suffer most from the cheats behaviour- just like many of the rest of this country want- a weak Celtic side being dominated by the supremacists, and thats not something I can be part of. I understand your point of view- but I will not punish my club financially- though I will give the rest nothing
KTF
Gordon_J
Back from the garden, EK rain kicking in again.
Exactly, so why would UEFA give Dignity an exception, particularly when the FTT proves they fielded ineligible players in CL & UEFA cups. I am also expecting something earth shattering on Craigy Whyte’s antics this season in relation to registrations …. he has been up to every other trick…..
Other than issuing very very serious threats to the lawyers and SFA officials and UEFA officials, Dignity are a busted flush……
Basicruleoffootballcfc
Hamilton Tim@17:51
That is a great Question and comment….
No matter what happens (especially in the next days…}
You and me lots of others are Celtic supporters no whatever what or where…..
End of
HH
ElDiego
Lol just coming into Glasgow from Dundee, two green and white cities!!
Ps you’d be better scrolling past!
Philbhoy
Love you honey, one day we shall meet buddy!!