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Aw Naw
In respect of Res12 they have.
On the 5 way I have nothing to argue one way or another but would be amazed if they had tried to stop it.
The other clubs wanted it. They carried the vote so at worst Celtic were passive and recognised they could do nothing to prevent and stood back.
The only thing they might have changed was the same club nonsense but even there I doubt Celtic saw what was a device to work within the existing rules (xfer of SFA membership) would be turned into what it became AFTER the agreement was reached – used as evidence RFC and TRFC were the same club.
The SFA club licensing rules for SFA membership for a new club were presentation of accounts for previous 3 years.(There have been changes since btw)
TRFC could not provide this so if they had applied as a new club that application by that route ran into difficulty on a most important plank of membership – proof of solvency.
So another way within the rules had to be found. That was found in Art 14 which whilst it had a title that prohibited transfer of membership had a discretionary clause in it that allowed it.
In my opinion that is why the new club route of Registered Membership then Associate Membership and after 5 years Full SFA membership was not followed.
The decision to allow xfer was within the rules and had a commercial benefit that CG might have demanded but certainly exploited once agreement signed.
So on same club nonsense part of 5 way agreement the only input Celtic could have had was to insist TRFC were recognised as a new club but that would have required a degree of foresight no one demonstrated in football or media. Everyone thought that Rangers died was a given at the time.
Hebcelt
The Board at Celtic are essentially a group of part timers directed by the CEO. They should be there to govern and direct but essentially they are ticking a Plc stock market box.
It’s the CEO we need to change. An ethical CEO would welcome the direction and Goveenance of s throng Board.
The Chairman and major shareholder should also want this as it would IMO give a greater chance of growth. In financial and football terms we are witnessing contraction.
Contraction in my view is an acceptable short term plan but is not a sustainable long term strategy. As evidenced by our drop in income and falling attendance.
JOE FILIPPIS HAIRCUT on 8TH FEBRUARY 2016 11:03 AM
Think you are been harsh on the Celtic support mate. The troops over the years have backed the team financially and emotionally.
IMO they are watching a very poor team with certain players not stepping up to the plate and the fans have earned the right to be annoyed.
Auldheid on 8th February 2016 10:41 am
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Thank you fella for your in depth reply.
The angle that I was driving at was the much trumpeted – dossier – by John Reid being spelled out to the national media…not the parochial masonic anti-Celtic media, and the carnage that would ensue outwith the reaches of the masonic-tentacles and, their capability to diminish the impact of the revelations of the – dossier.
If ?…This dossier did / does exist ?…Where is it ?…Why wasn’t it played like an ace in the hole ?…Did the dossier exist at all ?…Was it used as a smoke-screen to disperse the baying mob of malcontented-rebels at the AGM of the time ? :)
Seriously….I think that the dossier can be filed in the same book as the – “We are a stand alone club.” – statement from Lawwell, just before he went down south to negotiate a new TV-deal which included Sevco .
The book is available in the club shop – The Grimm board’s fairy tale’s:)
Hopefully all works out well and, thank you again.
Hail Hail – Off oot – bed time – zzzzzz
Can Peter Lawwell not find his darts- Why don´t we do what we did the last time ?
Get a map of the world and throw a dart at it, then recruit the manager that fits the profile.
Profile: Must win national league within 6 attempts.
Must not be conflicted in anyway with the SFA
Must be pliable, malleable and nodding profusely
English Spoken and ambitious
Cheap as chips
HH
Auldheid,
They obviously have not with resolution 12.
Your involvement with it is a wee clue :-)
HH
CultsBhoy
On what grounds would our CEO resign or need to be ousted?
He’s doing his job and well.
How could he be removed?
Robert88 exactly what is the mechanism to change /remove our CEO that is what the “sack the boarders” need to explain then we will all be wiser. H H Hebcelt
Just listening to Matt Elliott taking about Leicester.
There strengths they play as a team and are well organised.
In a nutshell,in my opinion, that’s what Celtic lack.
Hopefully the trials ongoing against the magnificent 7 will show the depth of collaboration between the Ogilvy led SFA and the new Hun.
Rangers are a sideshow now.
It will take more time but they are in a death spiral.
No business can sustain monthly losses in excess of a million a month and continue to trade.
Even the bluest of bluenoses, must at some point, throw in the towel when continuously asked to pony up.
What we need to happen is a complete rout of Hampden and get some decent business and football people running the show.
Good on you Aulheid, keep going mate.
Afternoon Celts
Its a bad day, when we have to hope that the PLC will do the right thing.
Power without accountability is always a bad idea.
Simply…if this cheating is not finally confronted by the PLC….there will be a huge torrent of anger heading their way.
I demand the PLC tackle this cheating agenda.
If they refuse to…we know were they stand.
Confront it….or be condemned.
HH
JIMMYNOTPAUL on 8TH FEBRUARY 2016 12:06 PM
They also decided to stand by Nigel Pearson when it looked like they were adrift at the bottom of the league
He was given time to get it right on the training field and he eventually got the results on the pitch. Leicester finished that season the form team.
Lesson’s to be learned about when to stick with a coach and when to consider a change.
LENNONS PASSION. Fella for me when we are going through a tough time that is the time the manager and the team need the support the most.How does it help them if the support are booing after any game and more so a game we won ? I go along with the faithful through and through including the hard times but fear we appear to have many fair weather supporters. H.H.
Jimmynotpaul,
I think most people treated his comments with the contempt they deserved……..and the rest were watching the Superb Owl.,
Mr Pastry @5.58
I didnt appreciate your crack about Maryhill, and the sack the board banner.
I hope im not detecting your previous attitude to the poor and unfortunate.
Im not having it at all.
Plenty of bhoys from Maryhill, would be happy to discuss your attitude.
Im one of them.
So, do me a favour…show a bit of respect to good people.
No need for your nasty cracks.
HH
I was at the game yesterday, over 20 shots on goal. What game is it some of you are commenting on?
Auldheid
Interesting times …..thanks for your non-agenda-driven assessment of the bloggers view …. I found both assessments VERY interesting …. HH
KevJ
The Shame Game certainly was an ‘open Goal’ for our Board to ‘rip them all one’ …… Their silence on that game, and on the anti- Celtic Meeja analysis still rankles with me …. HH
Aw Naw
With respect the politics of Scottish football require it and whilst progress has been slow here we are with Res12 very much still alive and kicking.
As I said. Had Celtic wanted to kill Res12 all they had to do was vote it down.
There might have been a hullabaloo following but we would never have caught SFA and RFC in lies had that happened.
As I also said it’s sfa about getting TRFC back or reinstating the old firm. It’s about making sure they never again are allowed to avoid the same rules other clubs are governed by.
There will never be a greater opportunity to do so now that other SPFL clubs are seeing the benefits of not having to compete against financially doped opposition.
After TRFC reach the top flight no need for other clubs to back them. They have had their bite at the bigot £ so when it comes to making changes the voting dynamic will have changed making what was impossible, possible.
Timaloy 29. 12.13.
I’m torn about Ronny desperately want him to succeed but he there is no doubt, in my opinion, we don’t play as a team, more as a group of talented individuals. The way he sets up makes it easier for managers to target our weaknesses.
Thomthetim 12.15.
You’ve lost me. Super bowl was last night/ early this morning our time.
Auldheid,
but Celtic should be doing this right ? Not you and Canamalar
especially when you consider the FFP speil that we have been forced fed since Brian Quinn was in the job ?
For me that is beyond incompetence it is deceitful
HH
Embramike @embramike
@ScottishFA @WillHillBet Over last 7 seasons @celticfc have been drawn away from home in 17 of their 19 Scottish Cup ties. Listening Lubo?
JOE FILIPPIS HAIRCUT on 8TH FEBRUARY 2016 12:15 PM
Agree the booing is disgusting and I hate it,agree we all should be pulling together. This includes the players and the management team.
I’m watching a lacklustre performance from both. The punters aren’t stupid and vent their anger it’s human nature.
AULDHEID
Honestly….i really hope, after all the work and digging you have done to expose the cheating.
That the PLC dont let you down.
Because personally speaking….i have no faith in any of them.
Make no mistake…..If this disgraceful state of affairs is not confronted by the club hierarchy/aristocracy.
To put it mildly…supporters will not be amused.
I hope Lawell and the PLC dont let you down.
But i have my doubts.
HH
JIMMYNOTPAUL on 8TH FEBRUARY 2016 12:29 PM
As Paul67 has said, there is a clear lack of defensive organisation under Ronny.
We do have some player liable to individual errors, but the collective also looks disorganised
I think Ronny has what it takes to take the league title. We’re only 2 points worse off than last season (which we won by a mile). We don’t need to go to Pittodrie again.
My only worry is if we have to go somewhere like Tynecastle in the Scottish Cup (though we haven’t lost the 2 times we’ve played there this season)
ok bhoys bit of help required .fined £60 for sitting in car 20 mins without buying ticket in private car park YORK. DVLA gave my address to firm . tell them to foxtrot Oscar orpay up.??????
AWE NAW
I don’t think there was collusion for their three in a row.
Rank incompetence,aye. Collusion,no.
I’m no fan of the board,as you know,but that is a theory too far for me.
If you are proved right,I will have the pitchfork and flaming torch ready.
And well aimed…
CULTSBHOY CAN NOT RELATE TO CELTIC BOARD AMBITIONS ON OR OFF THE PARK on 8TH FEBRUARY 2016 11:46 AM
Hebcelt
The Board at Celtic are essentially a group of part timers directed by the CEO. They should be there to govern and direct but essentially they are ticking a Plc stock market box.
You’re just making stuff up now.
TIMALOY29
You saw the intensity of Hearts v Hibs yesterday.
The way Hibs fought back….is what we are lacking.
No belief and not many playing for the Celtic jersey….bar KT, SB, ES.
Hibs showed how to fight….I hope our players were watching.
HH
The Green Man says SACK THE Board on 8th February 2016 12:34 pm
I have similar reservations, and we just have to wait and see what comes out of the Court cases
Kev Jungle
Ah yes the “dossier” I remember that and like you wonder whatever became of it.
Perhaps it was about ebts and side letters that surfaced not long after?
There has been clear evidence that our game has been cheated going back to 2000.
What has happened since it started to reach the light is management of the consequences.
Attempts as in LNS to minimise the enormity of what took place and in case of Res12 of point blank refusal of SFA to come clean.
If there wasn’t a strong enough dossier to force change then, there is a very strong one now.
Supporters/shareholders who have seen the case on both matters but under instructions not to publish because it was announced there would a a court case on fraud at TRFC, have all accepted it is a very sound one.
This case is supported by the tax expert hired to confirm understanding of tax process as well as lawyers at various points and levels.
What will be made of it is in the lap of the Gods, but that evidence, unlike the dossier, is out in the wild and only the legal process now in court prevent it being called in.
Out in the wild goes beyond Scottish media borders BTW but the seeds of transparency have been sown.
AULDHEID
I know you didn’t appreciate my actions about a year ago,and again I apologise for dirty fighting.
I just wanted an update,which at the time was not forthcoming. And I apologised for my methods but heyho….
It matters little. The big thing is your continued crusade to put the truth into the public domain.
For that,for your continued endeavours,you have my unqualified gratitude.
HH
BMCUWP,
When giving a reference e.g a job reference it is not what you say that matters is is what you do not say.
Sometime it is not what you do but what you fail to do
HH
At the famous ludge meeting whereupon the 5 way agreement was made with Celtic´s PLC fully
represented. It would appear that it was professionally estimated by our in resident and
all powerful experts that it would take ten years for the Old Firm to be fully back in business.
Acceptance that never in a gazillion years – especially with what is going on at the moment,
are any teams from this footballing backwater ever going to get invited to even any second rate
European league. This being a problem for the moustached Ebeneezer as that´s all he cares about.
Celtic would not stand in the way of the hun rejuvenation at any level for an exchange that
Celtic would get a run at ten in a row and can turn a wee profit every year. A league cup or a
Scottish cup would be sacrificed every season possibly even both at the altar of spreading around
the glory to the wee teams until the huns get back. That will keep the delinquent turnstyle fodder
interested with their “remember the day we went to Hampden and we were in the local courier” memories
and allow them to accept the huns wounded position and situation while Celtic keep winning the SPL.
With the proviso that Celtic cannot be seen to be doing well financially within the CL and winning
everything before them domestically. We know that is very achievable for Celtic but it will kill the
Scottish game that only works within certain parameters, That would not fit in with the affordable product
replacement strategy. An attempt to realign the entire Scottish game. Celtic will collect UEFA coefficient
points hopefully along the way meantime awaiting the rejuvenation.
The faith of the non Old Firm fans will be boosted while doing so, get them back believing
in the product with a few nice day out memories. Make the spend gap smaller between the Old Firm and
the rest. That will keep the moustached Ebeneezer purring as he has no interest except avoiding any
situation where he might have to dip into his reserves rather than getting some beer money every annum.
The blazers, journoes, pundits, ground keepers, mascots, catering staff, ticket staff want to keep their
jobs. They and their welfare (and ours ;-) is far more important than the development of the sport
A previously non involved manager within the Scottish game would need recruited for the Old Firm
to see this one completely through. Better safe than sorry. Rangers by the time their rejuvenation
would be complete should be capable of stopping ten in a row. Which should result in wee increase in
interest and TV revenue will be seen. Everyone will be happy it will all be back to normal and we hopefully
will be well placed for when the EPL bubble bursts.
Lodge meeting is now closed.
BMCUWP,
it is amazing how you can massage a product when you control the purse strings especially when it is in demand.
I wrote this last week … it is the same again and it is all linked to spend … not what is affordable but what you actually decide to spend on .. AND WHY
At the famous ludge meeting whereupon the 5 way agreement was made with Celtic´s PLC fully represented. It would appear that it was professionally estimated by our in resident and all powerful experts that it would take ten years for the Old Firm to be fully back in business. Acceptance that never in a gazillion years – especially with what is going on at the moment, are any teams from this footballing backwater ever going to get invited to even any second rate European league. This being a problem for the moustached Ebeneezer as that´s all he cares about.
Celtic would not stand in the way of the hun rejuvenation at any level for an exchange that Celtic would get a run at ten in a row and can turn a wee profit every year. A league cup or a Scottish cup would be sacrificed every season possibly even both at the altar of spreading around the glory to the wee teams until the huns get back. That will keep the delinquent turnstyle fodder interested with their “remember the day we went to Hampden and we were in the local courier” memories and allow them to accept the huns wounded position and situation while Celtic keep winning the SPL. With the proviso that Celtic cannot be seen to be doing well financially within the CL and winning everything before them domestically. We know that is very achievable for Celtic but it will kill the Scottish game that only works within certain parameters, That would not fit in with the affordable product replacement strategy. An attempt to realign the entire Scottish game. Celtic will collect UEFA coefficient points hopefully along the way meantime awaiting the rejuvenation.
The faith of the non Old Firm fans will be boosted while doing so, get them back believing in the product with a few nice day out memories. Make the spend gap smaller between the Old Firm and the rest. That will keep the moustached Ebeneezer purring as he has no interest except avoiding any situation where he might have to dip into his reserves rather than getting some beer money every annum. The blazers, journoes, pundits, ground keepers, mascots, catering staff, ticket staff want to keep their jobs. They and their welfare (and ours ;-) is far more important than the development of the sport
A previously non involved manager within the Scottish game would need recruited for the Old Firm to see this one completely through. Better safe than sorry. Rangers by the time their rejuvenation would be complete should be capable of stopping ten in a row. Which should result in wee increase in interest and TV revenue will be seen. Everyone will be happy it will all be back to normal and we hopefully will be well placed for when the EPL bubble bursts.
Lodge meeting is now closed.
67Heaven
It pains me to think how bent all this is.
And the fact that it has been going on for such a long time.
Throughout the lifespan of every poster on CQN….they have been cheating us.
We grew up with it……but ridiculed and called paranoid…..even when Big Tiny Wharton was giving his masonic handshake to John Greig.
Its staggering,and the true extent of the corruption is still hidden.
Its a real scandal.
IMO…We either fight it….or call it a day, and let them cheat amongst themselves.
HH
THE GREEN MAN SAYS SACK THE BOARD on 8TH FEBRUARY 2016 12:34 PM
AULDHEID
Honestly….i really hope, after all the work and digging you have done to expose the cheating.
That the PLC dont let you down.
Because personally speaking….i have no faith in any of them.
Make no mistake…..If this disgraceful state of affairs is not confronted by the club hierarchy/aristocracy.
To put it mildly…supporters will not be amused.
I hope Lawell and the PLC dont let you down.
But i have my doubts.
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Cheers and you have raised a very important point here – trust.
At every twist and turn in this process there have been questions of trust not in the Board but in and between the individuals taking the process forward.
Reasons to mistrust have came up at times but the question that always led to was do you trust me?
Without trust feck all would have been possible. As a means of changing things I highly commend it to all.
Will that trust be betrayed? Possibly but better the disappointment in failing than mistrust stopping the effort being made at all.
There is a greater good being fought for here and I’m keeping faith with whatever it is that wants a greater good to prevail.
Jimmynotpaul,
I was responding to your comment re no one picking up on the crass and seedy comments from a poster.
I said that some ignored them, as being beneath contempt and the ret were probably watching the Super Bowl. ( Superb Owl was a wee stolen play on words).
Hope this clarifies, before the New Post goes up!
FAVOURITE UNCLE on 8th February 2016 12:40 pm
ok bhoys bit of help required .fined £60 for sitting in car 20 mins without buying ticket in private car park YORK. DVLA gave my address to firm . tell them to foxtrot Oscar orpay up.??????
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FUnc – happened to my wife at hotel by Glasgow Airport last year waiting to pick up family. Picture of car entering and leaving, fine.
Mailed them, told them to take a hike because the car was never parked and to prove it if they reckoned otherwise. A couple of threatening reminders, but nothing they can do legally or credit-wise apparently, so we left it with the email standing as testimony and there’s been no repercussions to date some 9 months on.