Fans Against Criminalisation


I know we have Hibs in the League Cup on our mind today but would like to look ahead to Saturday.  The umbrella group, Fans Against Criminalisation, have organised a rally in GEORGE SQUARE before our home league game against Hibs.  I asked the group who they were, what their objectives are and why we should go along on Saturday, and was very impressed with their answers:

“Fans Against Criminalisation is a campaign group founded by five fan organisations (Green Brigade, Celtic Trust, Celtic Supporters Association, Affiliation of Celtic Supporters, Association of Irish Celtic Supporters Clubs). The campaign was formed on the back of the Green Brigade’s well-received protest at the Inverness game and after many previous discussions between the organisations about the Bill. We decided to come together to campaign against the Bill.

“Our objective is to ‘Kill the Bill’, the first part which deals with ‘offensive behaviour at football’ anyway. We have no problem with the government trying to tackle societal problems like sectarianism but these are not football’s problems alone and where sectarian crimes are committed then existing laws can be used to arrest and prosecute offenders. The new law goes far beyond sectarianism and captures anything that may offend or may cause disorder. This is only applied to football fans and it is ludicrous given that there is little or no disorder in Scottish football grounds and that routine aspects of football rivalry and tribalism will now be criminal offences. Government ministers have said fans who do anything from blessing yourself to singing a national anthem could fall foul of the proposes new law.

“The Government has shown little interest in fans’ views on the Bill. F.A.C. will be campaigning vigorously over the coming weeks and months and will be making our views heard. If the Bill passes then we will continue to protest against it, and challenge it legally and politically. The Celtic support is a very powerful potential constituency and the Scottish Government should be mindful of that.

“The rally is the starting point for the campaign. We need Celtic fans to get along and show their support for the campaign and add weight to our voice. We’ve asked people to assemble at 12.00 and the demo will start at 12.30 with speakers from the campaign. There’s no headline acts – Saturday is simply a time for ordinary Celtic fans to come together and unite against the Bill; a time to come together and send a message to the politicians that we will fight them all the way. Everyone should be doing their best to get along to George Square on Saturday and say no to the Bill.”

If at all possible, get along on Saturday and register your support.

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  1. Zbyszek



    There was also a magnificent depiction of the Madonna made by Polish airmen at Falkland Palace during the Second World War. It was made from old food tins and scraps of metal. It is a breathtaking sight and a wonderful work of art.

  2. Boa tarde.



    Refreshing to see some stuff on here about Celtic. For a awhile there, I thought the site was going to be swamped in a FC Enron administration Tsunami!



    Anyway, somebody was asking about Andrew Jennings the other day. Here’s a (rough) translation from this morning’s paper.











    British journalist Andrew Jennings, from the BBC television network, landed Tuesday in Brasilia to testify on Wednesday in the Senate on charges of corruption against the President of the CBF, Ricardo Teixeira. Jennings has arrived showing he is not afraid of threats and has come armed with a substantial set of compromising documents.



    In an interview yesterday Jennings said – Richard, if you want to threaten me, it’s too late, because the documents are already with the Commission of the Brazilian Senate. So if I turn up dead they can do without me, but I have small children and I am a seasoned reporter, so Ricardo Teixeira will not intimidate me.




    Jennings also attacked FIFA and its members, who may have participated in a bribe-taking scheme involving ISL, to promote the company’s marketing rights in the World Cup



    – FIFA is a criminal organization, a family. And I say this because I researched the mafia and I can say that FIFA is also a mob, an organized crime syndicate. I’m bringing documents which some of you will have seen on television. I have facts against Ricardo Teixeira, I do not work with rumors or gossip, just facts and documents



    Andrew also took the opportunity to send a warning shot about FIFA president Joseph Blatter.



    – Thieves need each other, is not it? However, Teixeira will stab Blatter in the back, if he needs to – he stressed.



    Jennings spent the afternoon of Tuesday preparing the details for submission to the Committee on Education, Sports and Culture of the Senate, which will be on Wednesday, at 10am. Before he will attend the office of Senate leader of the House, Senator Alvaro Dias (PR), who requested the presence of Jennings at today’s hearing. According to Alvaro, the presence of the journalist will be of great enlightenment.



    – Complaints of this nature are serious and have international repercussions, undermining the credibility of the CBF. We need to clarify this. We are in the process of World Cup preparations and the federal government cannot associated with someone who is under international suspicion. This justifies the presence of Andrew – said Dias.








    So it looks like Jennings is really going to go for it. However, considering that the Minster of Sport, Orlando Silva, will today leave the cabinet in disgrace for siphoning off money allocated for the development of children’s sports these past few years, I’m a bit sceptical about his chances of success.



    My best guess is that (sadly) a combination of political grandstanding and the obsfucation of the Brasilian legal system will turn Jenning’s testament into a 15 minutes of fame event with little (real) repurcussions. Hope not.



    Elsewhere, I forgot (sorry) to alert the gamblers about Santa Fe (BOL) who at 4/5 were a shoo-in against Botafogo last night (and profitted me very nicely. Thank you). However, there’s still money to be made with a wee Vasco / U.Chile home win double tonight.



    One to watch in that U.Chile v Flamengo game (U.Chile tawed Flamengo 4-0 in the first leg) is U.Chile’s attacker, Eduardo Vargas. This boy COULD be the next big S.American thing. Then again, I think that Paddy should always be in our starting line-up, so what do I know!



    PS. Passed a beggar in the street this morning. As I rummaged deep for change he said “Its no for me, I just want to give it to somebody less fortunate than myself”.



    “Who? Craig Whyte?” said I.



    “Naw, he’s beyond redemption” was the response.



    VIva A Revolução Verde !!!

  3. Guys



    Anyone fancy doing a wee Christmas fundraiser for my favourite charity, Glasgow the Caring City and the Kano Foundation, split the proceeds?


    Basically rip-off of Movember, we’ll call it Mobanguravember, anyone wanting to take part grows their facial hair until 23 November, ‘tache or full beard, we meet for a bite to eat/beer before the Dunfermline rearranged home game 23 November, we all vote for the winner and I’ll put up a prize. £20 to take part.



    If I get 10 or more yeses we’ll go for it and set up some sort of registration email to take part. Who’s up for a laugh?

  4. The Battered Bunnet on




    I went to the Polish Cemetery at Monte Cassino in the summer. Over a thousand Polish men died in the fighting there. The commander of the Polish troops in the battle, General Anders, died in 1970. He asked to be buried with his men at Monte Cassino.

  5. I am just back from the states for a friends wedding.



    Caught up with my good friend who is a big rangers fan and also works in finance.



    He said he can´t even read the press about the situation at Ibrox, its too depressing for him. His view is that administration is inevitable and it will probably take rangers about 10 years to fully recover from it.



    He blames Murray. Thinks CW´s dispute with BBC is a total joke and the guy is a crook whilst referring to his role as a secured creditor.



    They are not all deluded!

  6. Dontbrattbakkinanger


    Not a problem. Since September 1939 untill late 1940 Poland was occupied by Germany and USSR. Russians transported at least 1 300 000 Polish citizens to their concentration camps, slave labour camps and other places. They changed their policy against the Poles when knew Hitler’s plans. After German invasion on USSR “only” Germans occupied our territory.






    Thanks for that. I did not know these facts. I read somewhere that after 1940 about 60 000 Polish soldiers worked in the camps near Glasgow. They were Polish corps in British Army and were responsible mainly for logistics.


    First Pole who played for Celtic was Konrad Kapler. Polish soldier in British army during the war.

  7. Zybszek -my dad came across Polish soldiers in the campaign to liberate France and the Low Countries, he spoke very highly of them and always thought Poland got a raw deal after the war, to appease Stalin.

  8. fergus slayed the blues on

    KJamBhoy says:


    26 October, 2011 at 15:58


    I think most of the ragers fans still believe that


    1. they will go into admin to leave HMRC with nowt (ST holders ,debencher hoders and other creditors do not seem to matter to them either)


    2.take a 10pt hit


    3.carry on as usual .


    Now if everyone is against them ,how are they so confident in this outcome .I know

  9. Paul67 et al



    Given that two (count em) teams from Ayrshire and one from Stirlingshire have made it to the League Cup semi-finals you can better believe that Hibs will be looking at a route to the Final, if they can get past us tonight. It will be interesting to see how Gary O’Connor does tonight, or rather how our centre-backs do against him. A while back I thought he might have been a good replacement for John Hartson, but a transfer to Russia put paid to that idea, well that and a transfer fee as well I suppose. Lost his way for a while, indeed may not have quite found it back just yet, but he was at Lennoxtown pre-season, makes me think that was some kind of a trial now. Does anyone know if he was a trialist or were we doing Gary a favour?

  10. TBB, DBBIA et al,



    “Wee” Britain and its Empire did stand alone for a time during the War. My auld Dad, who ended up in Singapore (where the troops were being mustered to invade Japan prior to the Bomb being dropped), has always reckoned that the 2 best soldiers he fought beside were the Poles and the Khurkas (sp). Brave to a man, he claims. I just wonder how many of our dead were actually Britsh.

  11. fergus slayed the blues on

    KJamBhoy says:


    26 October, 2011 at 15:58


    I think most of the ragers fans still believe that


    1. they will go into admin to leave HMRC with nowt (ST holders ,debenture holders and other creditors do not seem to matter to them either)


    2.take a 10pt hit


    3.carry on as usual .


    Now if everyone is against them ,how are they so confident in this outcome .I know when we were in trouble I for one was never confident of anything but the worse outcome .


    I think it speaks volumes that they think all will be ok in this situation ,because they are ragers and what needs to be done will be done from everyone involved .


    The thing is I tend to believe them .


    hail hail




  12. The Battered Bunnet says:



    26 October, 2011 at 15:21



    The myth of the German defeat by Britain and one or two Americans is hard to dispel. I’m not saying Britain didn’t play a significant role in WW2. But the stat that always gets me is that of every hundred Wehrmacht dead the Soviets were responsible for ninety. The best armies in WW2 were from dictatorships.

  13. hoopeddreams & The Battered Bunnet & Dontbrattbakkinanger



    Big thank you to all. Probably my last post about the subject. Otherwise we all get a scollding from SAAB owner for writing nothing about Celtic.


    Communists in Poland never talked about Monte Cassino or other soldiers who fought in Brittish Army (other countries). Generally speaking the only good Poles were those who fought hand in hand with Red Army after 1941.


    Those who fought together for the British Army and for others were treated here like the traitors. Many of those who came back after war spent many years in jails like my father’s oldest brother.


    True stories were told by fathers to sons and were secrets. You could not find them in the official books.

  14. Wonder if Phil’s story this morning re the K£90 missing fees to Steven Davis’s agent was wrong. See it has now disappeared from his page. Thoughts, folks?

  15. fergus slayed the blues



    I guess my friend is a more realistic and knowledgable about these things than your average fan.



    He pointed out other clubs Leeds, Portsmouth, etc who have gone into admin as examples. These rangers fans who think everything will be fine after admin, what are they basing this on? What other clubs have gone into admin and recovered?

  16. jimmci,



    i posted earlier about disinformation being supplied along with the information,


    they might be changing tac to discredit rather than trying to shut him down.

  17. if phils source has been discovered it would make sense to still use him/her to feed wrong info,


    being discredited can be worse than shutting you up, just a possibility in my opinion, these people have


    already proved they are capable of any devious acts.

  18. Neil Lennon is (and always will be) a Celtforlife (*O*) @ 14:25 – You know it makes sense. (thumbsup)



    Folly Folly – Thanks, I am aware of how pensions work, and I am a member of a pension scheme – would love if it was on the same terms as public sector employees.



    Sadly in these straitened times we are all having to tighten our belts, and that goes for public employees as well as private sector ones. (thumbsup)



    Dontbrattbakkinanger – I don’t listen to BBC Radio 4, it’s strictly the Jeremy Vine show and the Chris Evans breakfast show for me. (thumbsup)

  19. The Battered Bunnet on




    Judging by the fresh flowers, beads and stones left on the graves, many folk remember. Very many.