Fans Against Criminalisation


I know we have Hibs in the League Cup on our mind today but would like to look ahead to Saturday.  The umbrella group, Fans Against Criminalisation, have organised a rally in GEORGE SQUARE before our home league game against Hibs.  I asked the group who they were, what their objectives are and why we should go along on Saturday, and was very impressed with their answers:

“Fans Against Criminalisation is a campaign group founded by five fan organisations (Green Brigade, Celtic Trust, Celtic Supporters Association, Affiliation of Celtic Supporters, Association of Irish Celtic Supporters Clubs). The campaign was formed on the back of the Green Brigade’s well-received protest at the Inverness game and after many previous discussions between the organisations about the Bill. We decided to come together to campaign against the Bill.

“Our objective is to ‘Kill the Bill’, the first part which deals with ‘offensive behaviour at football’ anyway. We have no problem with the government trying to tackle societal problems like sectarianism but these are not football’s problems alone and where sectarian crimes are committed then existing laws can be used to arrest and prosecute offenders. The new law goes far beyond sectarianism and captures anything that may offend or may cause disorder. This is only applied to football fans and it is ludicrous given that there is little or no disorder in Scottish football grounds and that routine aspects of football rivalry and tribalism will now be criminal offences. Government ministers have said fans who do anything from blessing yourself to singing a national anthem could fall foul of the proposes new law.

“The Government has shown little interest in fans’ views on the Bill. F.A.C. will be campaigning vigorously over the coming weeks and months and will be making our views heard. If the Bill passes then we will continue to protest against it, and challenge it legally and politically. The Celtic support is a very powerful potential constituency and the Scottish Government should be mindful of that.

“The rally is the starting point for the campaign. We need Celtic fans to get along and show their support for the campaign and add weight to our voice. We’ve asked people to assemble at 12.00 and the demo will start at 12.30 with speakers from the campaign. There’s no headline acts – Saturday is simply a time for ordinary Celtic fans to come together and unite against the Bill; a time to come together and send a message to the politicians that we will fight them all the way. Everyone should be doing their best to get along to George Square on Saturday and say no to the Bill.”

If at all possible, get along on Saturday and register your support.

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  1. henryclarkson says:


    26 October, 2011 at 17:37



    The Dubliner


    Hallplatz. 21, 90402 (in the centre) tel:+49 04991121144981



    See you in there then! Buy you a pint for that!



    Hail Hail!




  2. fergus slayed the blues on



    Sorry I am no good at the linky thing ,maybe another computer savvy poster can help out .


    They did not publish ,they broadcast .


    What with the bill being taken of the screens they had to give the hordes something to watch on a european night


    hail hail

  3. johann murdoch on

    BT..finally made a visit to the Roast today,great coffee and very nice Ginger scones!!.. However I’m more of a basin of coffee type ,bigger cups maybe? ..good atmosphere and good tunes too..hh

  4. Celtic TV should be renamed Celtic Radio – poor show when we cant watch league cup and europa cup games with our subscription. Poor quality and like the team……lacking investment – we are seriously amateurish for a worldwide organisation!

  5. johan


    my mate roasts the coffee in there and brings it in for me every morning, freshly ground….

  6. Stebhoy



    Is it not due to other corporations having the rights to show them, which blocks Celtic from putting them on?

  7. playfusbal4dguilders on

    Dear All



    Just heard a story from a friend who just returned for the Rugby WC final in NZ.



    It was a bit of a flying visit and after he landed he took the shuttle bus into the City centre.



    As he was on the bus the radio is on and he describes it as the equivalent of Talksport.



    The article they were discussing was obviously the Final on Sunday.


    The Head of Police is stating that should the unthinkable happen and NZ lose to France he fully expect there to be some civil unrest and and an increase in DOMESTIC violence. He


    calls for restraint in the unlikely event that NZ lose.



    The sport jouro and the Heid Police then go on to say that this Domestic Violence is not an uncommon occurrence (couldn’t spell phoneomon) as it regulary goes on in Scotland after Celtic v Rangers matches.



    Small country,s eh?????





    Friend let all listen know that it was only when Huns lose.

  8. From Tony Hamilton’s twitter



    #Celtic XI: Forster; M Wilson, Rogne, Majstorovic, Matthews; Forrest, Kayal, Ki, Ledley; Hooper & Stokes



    #Celtic subs: Zaluska, Wanyama, McCourt, El Kaddouri & Cha



    Foiled yet again by Lennon :-(

  9. Help



    I’m sure I watched the Ross County match through Virgin Media. Was it on BBC One Scotland?



    My virgin media only appears to have BBC One Scotland available but the match appears to be on BBC Two Sctoland.



    Any advice gratefully accepted.



    Árd Macha

  10. Awe_Naw sorry i got a bit confussed there, i was talking to a friend on skype ( lives 40 kilometer’s outside Nurenberg) when i seen the request for a bar in Nurenburg.



    I asked him if he knew, and that was the 2 he got back to me with.



    I’m sitting here on the Black-sea coast Awe_naw enjoying a Warsteiner.

  11. From polishturnstile:



    #Celtic XI: Forster; M Wilson, Rogne, Majstorovic, Matthews; Forrest, Kayal, Ki, Ledley; Hooper & Stokes


    #Celtic subs: Zaluska, Wanyama, McCourt, El Kaddouri & Cha



    Would have preferred to see Matthews and ElK at full back. Wanyama should play every game to help the defence; he and McCourt instead of Hooper and Forrest.

  12. I’ve never liked Wilson/Forrest as a combo down the right, but the stats don’t lie: 92% success rate from 9 games.



    Similarly, Rogne and Dan not too shabby – 85% from 13 games.



    Matthews/Ledley not so great, but I thought they played well together against Kilmarnock.



    Where we should worry is the central midfield – Kayal and Ki, despite playing well individually, have a pretty poor 64% return.



    Stokes/Hooper, if they recapture their form, should see us right, though.

  13. The Battered Bunnet on

    Awe Naw



    Great to see you popping in to the ol’ blog. Is yon seedless Thai lemongrass any good?




  14. Up over goal


    Not surprised by thr 64% rate with Ki and Kayal in centre mid.


    One of the least potent pairings i’ve witnessed.


    Their preference to hang around the centre circle and offer no defensive or attacking support leaves us impotent.

  15. fergus slayed the blues on

    Re Wanyama


    I think he looked like he picked up a knock on Sunday (hence being subbed )so I don’t think he is fully fit .


    IMO our front line need to step up to the plate tonight as our defence could struggle .I hope they take any chances that come their way and I hope hibs miss theirs .


    I think Hibs will come out fully committed at the start as they will see a chance to put us under pressure early on ,after the killie game who wouldn’t.


    With a very makeshift back line I think we should be packing the midfield and making sure we win every 2nd ball ,until we do that we will not protect our defence and create any platform for supply to the TWO strikers we are putting out .


    hail hail

  16. 30 grad here and its 25 to 1



    What is the weather like in Scotland and Germany ?



    I have to go to bed in 25 mins. I have been told.



    Honeymoon so I cant moan about it.



    Will check for updates in about 3 hours under the guise of checking for floodiing as that’s the type of guy I am.



    I have to get cream rubbed into my mosquito bites.




  17. Celtic to win both halves – 11/4


    Celtic to win by 3 or more – 10/3


    Charlie Mulgrew to score at any time – 9/1



    3 X £1 singles.



    Bet responsibly!




  18. Very attack minded team tonight



    Is the diamond system having another run out tonight?



    Hibs are rank, however with the Huns and mini huns oot its a big incentive for them



    One again its watch with hope in our hearts

  19. Why sign a left back to sit on the bench and put a right back in his position?


    Then play Wilson who’s only consistent in giving ball to opposition.


    Baffling?Perhaps not when you view our season so far.

  20. Hi guys.



    Reading back I notice that some people don’t seem to understand why public sector workers are proposing industrial action beginning on November 30th. Perhaps i might explain. Feel free to scroll by, and, Philvis, geel free as usual to fail to reply.



    Decent, hardworking taxpayers have paid their pension contributions for many years. They have deferred that part of their salary in order to make provision for their old age. I note an earlier comment about the failure of successive governments to invest, or even put aside, sufficient funds to meet their committments. I note, too, that the Tories have been in government for most of the last century. It isn’t our fault that Conservative politicians and their New Labour fellow-travellers have been remiss in their duties.



    Now, in order to fund profits and bonuses in banks which have been bailed out by taxpayers, I and my public sector colleagues are told that we must pay a 48% increase in our contributions and work longer before getting 15% less back. Most people I know, even those who work in the private sector, think that this is indefensible.



    What I would love to know is this. Why do the free marketeers in our society defend the continuing situation in which in-work benefits are paid in order to allow private employers to abuse the taxpayer (sound familiar?) by paying starvation wages? The Welfare State was not designed as a mechanism to provide a subsidy to bad employers. Approximately 15% of workers recieve these tax credits, 47% of whom would not be classified as ‘poor’ were this benefit to be withdrawn.



    The Welfare State was designed to provide out of work benefits, contributary and non-contributary. Why not redirect monies currently providing false profits for under-payong employers towards hard-working, underpaid, taxpaying individuals?



    I look forward to any rebuttal. (thumbs up)



    Hail Hail!

  21. philvisreturns says:


    26 October, 2011 at 14:19


    RobertTressell – Vote Yes for Strike Action on 30th November – Thanks for the explanation.



    I’m not sure how anybody can come to the conclusion that there isn’t a “black hole” in public sector pensions in the UK.



    There is, for the simple reason that these pensions are mostly unfunded.



    “Unfunded” means they expect to be paid directly out of future taxes, since there isn’t, alas, some huge pot of money that has been accumulating through investment and compound interest over the years to provide for public sector retirees.



    With an ageing population and the government trillions of pounds in the red, some hard decisions have to be made.



    You should count yourselves lucky you’re only being asked to contribute 3.4%.



    I also have to pick you up on this point: in fact the average public sector pension is less than £7K a year…….)



    Strictly speaking this is true, but it is not the full truth.



    The £7K figure only applies when you include all the part-time and temporary public sector workers who get pensions. (The madness of the taxpayer being expected to provide pensions for part-time and temporary workers probably is lost on you). The average full time career public sector worker will expect to receive much, much more than this every year, on considerably better terms and with much better protections than exist in private sector pensions.



    Now, you ask whose side I am on?



    I am on the side of the taxpayer. I am on the side of the honest, hardworking people who make this country function, without whom there wouldn’t be any taxes to fund public services in the first place, and who have to carry on their backs a vastly bloated public sector we can no longer afford, full of bolshy malcontents raging at the suggestion they should contribute a modest sum towards their own gold-plated pension schemes.



    We are not a nation of deserving cases. We are not a nation of social workers, or of clients of social workers, or of municipal diversity outreach co-ordinators, or telephone sanitisers, or what-have-you.



    We are a proud, fierce nation and it is time we returned to the simple values that made this country great: courage, self-reliance, and hard work. That is the only way we can build a better future for ourselves and those who come after us, not through whingeing and striking and self-entitlement.



    Anybody working in the public sector who doesn’t want to be part of the solution is free to find employment elsewhere. No doubt their talents will be suitably rewarded in the martketplace.








    Part of the solution? We didn’t create the problem. Chasing Tax avoiders, making the bankers pay back what they took from the economy, proper taxation of the wealthy elite – all of these will solve the problem that the banks and tax avoiders have created.



    You see Phil this ‘crisis’ has been to some extent created. It is a redistribution of wealth – upwards. It is a way of forcing economies to strip their public sectors and open as much of the economy up to flows of capital as is humanly possible – with no regard for the consequences.



    You tell us we are not a nation of (fill in the blanks) but your great heroine margaret thatcher deliberately made the UK exactly that when she deliberately dismantled the major manufacturing industries in order to destroy organised workers. Hoisted on your own petard there my old chum.



    Striclty speaking my £7 average figure is absolutely spot on. Do you think that people collecting a pension only do so part time? The average is £7 K that is a fact. that is what some people have to live on plus whatever state benefits they are entitled to. The changes to the pensions are going to cost most people thousands and thousands of punds over their working life and their retirement. that is a fact.



    can you tell me what contribution the banks have so far made to solving the economic crisis that they created? My sources indicate that in the UK since 2008 they have received £275 Billion of tax payers money. Can you tell me what sacrifices the millionaires row that is the tory front bench have made to show that we are ‘all in this together’?



    DO you really believe your own hype or do you just like the wind up?



    As for counting ourselves lucky to only have to pay 3.4% the real figure is 9.7% or thereabouts. We already pay 6.3% I think. And again – the government has not increased the amount going in to a pension pot that you claim has a black hole. Projections are that the pension pot is enough as it stands. Some even suggest there will be a surplus. The amount going in to our ‘unaffordable’ pensions is remaining the same. So how can it not be a lie that it is ‘unaffordable’?



    Meanwhile Celtic are playing and I can’t get watching it for various reasons. Have to go and I really hope you get to read my reply.

  22. eric_olthwaite on

    Was about to comment on how we have recently been coming out a weaker team in the second half when young James proves me wrong.



    Also about to mention how bad we were at heading,defensively and offensively……….


    and Stokesey proves me wrong!



    Apparently a lot of noise coming from the away dressing room at half time.


    I have been critical of lack of tactics and game plan,but Neil certainly knows how to “motivate” a team.



    Mathews outstanding;Ki always to step up as attacking mid when required,not Kayal.Defensive mid only,as is Vic 67.



    Always liked the Stokes/Hooper combo.Anthony is working harder,Gary is obviously not fit and lacking a yard.



    Great result.Lets have some cosistency!



    (p.s.Fans brilliant as usual).